Hi,
This is fair, back in the old days I recall setting a machine to burn a
disc then wandering off.
My incremental backup updates shortened from 3.5 minutes to
about 1.5 minutes on the new machine.
Nevertheless i have reason to go for a cup of tea because
it is advisable to keep the hands off
On 04/08/15 17:06, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Stuart Longland wrote:
Silly question, but why does re-loading a disc take more than 197 seconds?
It comes out (intentionally) after a backup run is complete
and went well. (See man xorriso example Incremental backup
of a few directory trees.)
Hi,
Curt wrote:
What about
sysctl -w dev.cdrom.autoclose=0
Now that's an interesting name.
# sysctl dev.cdrom.autoclose
dev.cdrom.autoclose = 1
Nitpickingly, i'd say that /dev/cdrom is not the mad drive sr1,
but rather its iwell behaved neighbor sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 Aug 3
Hi,
Stuart Longland wrote:
Silly question, but why does re-loading a disc take more than 197 seconds?
It comes out (intentionally) after a backup run is complete
and went well. (See man xorriso example Incremental backup
of a few directory trees.)
Then i'd expect it to stay out until i remove
Hi,
Stuart Longland wrote:
Finally it discourages the tray's misuse by the illiterate (e.g. as a
carry handle or cup holder).
Chris Bannister wrote:
That sounds like Windoze thinking. I, personaly, would hate the idea
that the disc tray may automatically retract without notice.
Doesn't
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:06:15 +0200
Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
Stuart Longland wrote:
Silly question, but why does re-loading a disc take more than 197 seconds?
It comes out (intentionally) after a backup run is complete
and went well. (See man xorriso example
Thomas Schmitt wrote:
I use BD-R and BD-RE for multi-volume backups with scdbackup,
and for multi-session backups with xorriso directly.
scdbackup
http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/main_eng.html
splits large backup areas into file collections which
fit on single media:
(...)
Hi,
I apologize for mailing you off-list
Well, i got it with these headers
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
The mail address scdbac...@gmx.net is public for support of
optical drives, ISO 9660, and backup in general. If your topic
is of public
On 2015-08-04, Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote:
Nevertheless i disabled this kernel feature by
echo 0 /sys/block/sr1/events_poll_msecs
and now btrace(8) does not show any SCSI traffic when the tray
goes in.
What about
sysctl -w dev.cdrom.autoclose=0
Or is that completely off the
On 2015-08-04, Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
Curt wrote:
What about
sysctl -w dev.cdrom.autoclose=0
Now that's an interesting name.
# sysctl dev.cdrom.autoclose
dev.cdrom.autoclose = 1
Nitpickingly, i'd say that /dev/cdrom is not the mad drive sr1,
but rather its
Hi Lisi,
On 04/08/15 08:43, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 03 August 2015 23:39:48 Stuart Longland wrote:
On 28/07/15 22:58, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
The delay seems a bit long for such an action though.
My measurements were all between 197 and 200 seconds.
With some inaccuracy because waiting 3
On 28/07/15 22:58, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
The delay seems a bit long for such an action though.
My measurements were all between 197 and 200 seconds.
With some inaccuracy because waiting 3 minutes harms my
reaction time.
Silly question, but why does re-loading a disc take more than 197
On Monday 03 August 2015 23:39:48 Stuart Longland wrote:
On 28/07/15 22:58, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
The delay seems a bit long for such an action though.
My measurements were all between 197 and 200 seconds.
With some inaccuracy because waiting 3 minutes harms my
reaction time.
Silly
On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 09:06:49AM +1000, Stuart Longland wrote:
To me, a tray automatically retracting itself after being open for more
than a minute sounds a perfectly reasonable damage-prevention measure.
It prevents dust from settling on the tray, thus getting drawn into the
workings
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
[...]
Here is a nice spectrum of beziehungsweise and its english
counterparts.
http://www.linguee.com/german-english/translation/beziehungsweise.html
Some respectively are among them. Some are quite near to
my
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 05:23:48 Joel Rees wrote:
Hi, Lisi,
Hi, Joel,
If I'm still in your blacklists, it won't help for me to comment, but ...
No, you're not. I'm surprised that it mattered enough for you to remember!
2015/07/28 6:46 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com:
On Monday 27 July
Hi,
Mike Castle wrote:
Has the drive displayed this behavior since you turned on the machine,
or just you just start to notice it after a while?
I noticed it on the day when i got the machine.
Maybe it only starts to happen after it's been on for a while, and
snarkWindow machines don't
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 07:32:54 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
I was not aware that resp. is wrong
in that context.
The main problem is that it isn't an English word, so one can't look it up in
a dictionary. And Chris's question was quite clear!!
I obviously have a mental block for bzw. I'll make
Hi,
Joel Rees wrote:
I instinctively look for a pair of lists of things to map when I see
respectively in these contexts.
Now that i know the correct meaning i do understand why
the german-ish use appears so odd to native speakers.
That's why i deem the main translation flatly false:
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 11:49:33 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
The lure for error is even more appealing because both words
have an abbreviation: resp. and bzw..
We are back to the nub of the problem. Not in English, it doesn't; resp. is
meaningless, unfortunately. My spell-checker has just
Hi,
Lisi Reisz wrote:
Not in English, it doesn't; resp. is meaningless, unfortunately.
Blame the dictionaries. I'm just their victim.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/resp.#Abbreviation
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/resp.
Yes, various forum users do object loudly.
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 12:48:25 Alexis wrote:
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com writes:
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 11:49:33 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
The lure for error is even more appealing because both words
have an abbreviation: resp. and bzw..
We are back to the nub of the problem. Not in
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 12:59:06 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
Lisi Reisz wrote:
Not in English, it doesn't; resp. is meaningless, unfortunately.
Blame the dictionaries. I'm just their victim.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/resp.#Abbreviation
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:30:21 +0100
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
How on earth does it get used in German? I'd like to know - but you had
better reply off list!
Please, no, we also want to know !
Cheers,
Ron.
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On Tuesday 28 July 2015 16:31:42 Curt wrote:
Yes, I missed that. I couldn't find it. I stand corrected. But it is
certainly not in normal use.
You said it was meaningless in English.
Yes, as I said above, and you have quoted, I stand corrected.
Lisi
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On 2015-07-28, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 12:48:25 Alexis wrote:
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com writes:
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 11:49:33 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
The lure for error is even more appealing because both words
have an abbreviation: resp. and
Hi,
Frédéric Marchal wrote:
Could it be closing because the open sensor is defective or not
properly aligned or the drawer reaches the mechanical hard stop?
The drive mechanics appear to be ok.
It goes out when i want it and it is unused.
It goes in when i want ... and after 200 seconds
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com writes:
On Tuesday 28 July 2015 11:49:33 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
The lure for error is even more appealing because both words
have an abbreviation: resp. and bzw..
We are back to the nub of the problem. Not in English, it
doesn't; resp. is meaningless,
2015-07-28 10:20 GMT+02:00 Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net:
Hi,
Mike Castle wrote:
Has the drive displayed this behavior since you turned on the machine,
or just you just start to notice it after a while?
I noticed it on the day when i got the machine.
Ok, really maybe it only starts to
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:19:05 +0200
Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote:
Ok. By popular demand a link to a comprehensive explanation
of the Deppenapostroph and how to avoid it:
Vielen Dank.
Grüssen,
Ron.
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Hi,
i wrote:
(Just like the genitive apostrophe is in german. We will
never get rid of it again.)
Lisi Reisz wrote:
How on earth does it get used in German? I'd like to know - but you had
better reply off list!
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
Please, no, we also want to know !
Ok. By
Hi,
Lisi Resiz wrote:
If you do use foreign words, you need to be willing to explain them when
asked, as you were by Chris.
But i did not understand that it was about english language
and not about computing. I was not aware that resp. is wrong
in that context.
I'm still not clear on the
On Monday 27 July 2015 15:17:50 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
i wrote:
btrace(8) (resp. blktrace(8)) seems to be the better
Chris Bannister wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but I was wondering what 'resp.' means here.
btrace lets blktrace do the work and blkparse tell the user.
man 8 btrace:
Hi,
i wrote:
btrace(8) (resp. blktrace(8)) seems to be the better
Chris Bannister wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but I was wondering what 'resp.' means here.
[i missed the point]
Lisi Reisz wrote:
But what does resp. mean?
I guess there is something wrong with my use of respectively.
Hi,
i wrote:
btrace(8) (resp. blktrace(8)) seems to be the better
Chris Bannister wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but I was wondering what 'resp.' means here.
btrace lets blktrace do the work and blkparse tell the user.
man 8 btrace:
The btrace script provides a quick and easy way to do live
On Monday 27 July 2015 16:53:14 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words;
on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
them unconscious and
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 4:44 AM, Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote:
LG Germany answered quickly and stated that the drive is
not known to show this behavior under MS-Windows.
(Linux is not on their compatibility list, they say.)
Has the drive displayed this behavior since you turned on
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 01:23:48PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
I'd go with the idea suggested on the stackexchange post he referenced,
that, in other contexts, the English grammar puts the beziehungswiese
after two lists which are being associated:
... translating breakfast, lunch, and
Hi, Lisi,
If I'm still in your blacklists, it won't help for me to comment, but ...
2015/07/28 6:46 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com:
On Monday 27 July 2015 16:53:14 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that
English is about as pure as a
Hi,
Alan Greenberger wrote:
You might try
lsof -r 1 /dev/sr0
If you are lucky it will catch something. If I type eject a few times,
it will catch one.
btrace(8) (resp. blktrace(8)) seems to be the better
inspector in this case. It shows i/o traffic down to
SCSI commands and there is no race
On 2015-07-24, Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote:
Hi,
one of my optical drives automatically pulls in its tray if it stands
out for a few minutes. The four others do not try to byte my fingers.
The waiting time between manual tray eject and automatic tray load
is quite reliably 195 to
Hi,
Nicolas George:
I have read that some windows install images are available gratis.
Before i do that i dismantle my new computer.
But there are enough old Linux ISOs in my regression test vault.
Trying
one (without actually installing) would be a good way of proving that the LG
support
Hi,
i stumbled over btrace(8) which lists the SCSI commands by
blktrace, blkparse, and /sys/kernel/debug.
The only traffic is every 2 seconds a 0x4A GET EVENT STATUS
NOTIFICATION command in Polled operational mode, and
notification class request Media. I did not find out yet
how to get to view
Hi,
The Wanderer wrote:
* The BIOS, or (more likely in a modern system) UEFI.
Good point. I forgot that my new machine possibly runs two
OSes simultaneously: EFI and Linux.
But my experience with UEFI is restricted to creating the
entry points in bootable ISOs. (The circumstances of my
Hi,
Lisi Reisz wrote:
Yes, I rather wondered whether it was the drive itself.
Currently your theory has good chances to be true.
Only the theory about EFI looks like a valid competitor.
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
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Hi,
LG Germany answered quickly and stated that the drive is
not known to show this behavior under MS-Windows.
(Linux is not on their compatibility list, they say.)
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
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On 07/25/2015 at 07:06 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
i stumbled over btrace(8) which lists the SCSI commands by
blktrace, blkparse, and /sys/kernel/debug.
The only traffic is every 2 seconds a 0x4A GET EVENT STATUS
NOTIFICATION command in Polled operational mode, and
notification class
On Saturday 25 July 2015 12:07:29 The Wanderer wrote:
* The firmware on the optical drive itself.
Yes, I rather wondered whether it was the drive itself.
https://lists.debian.org/201507241208.16237.lisi.re...@gmail.com
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On Saturday 25 July 2015 12:44:47 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
LG Germany answered quickly and stated that the drive is
not known to show this behavior under MS-Windows.
(Linux is not on their compatibility list, they say.)
:-(
Well, it was a nice idea while it lasted. And worth testing.
I'd
Le septidi 7 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Thomas Schmitt a écrit :
LG Germany answered quickly and stated that the drive is
not known to show this behavior under MS-Windows.
(Linux is not on their compatibility list, they say.)
You could test if the observed behaviour happens when the computer is on
Hi,
i wrote:
LG Germany answered quickly and stated that the drive is
not known to show this behavior under MS-Windows.
Lisi Reisz wrote:
Well, it was a nice idea while it lasted. And worth testing.
Your theory is not totally ruled out yet.
It is just hard to test because to surely
Le septidi 7 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Thomas Schmitt a écrit :
I will also try a non-Debian rescue system for BIOS.
I have read that some windows install images are available gratis. Trying
one (without actually installing) would be a good way of proving that the LG
support is spreading nonsense.
Hi,
one of my optical drives automatically pulls in its tray if it stands
out for a few minutes. The four others do not try to byte my fingers.
The waiting time between manual tray eject and automatic tray load
is quite reliably 195 to 200 seconds.
Optical driving is one of my sports. So i am
On Friday 24 July 2015 11:31:52 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Any idea what automat gropes my cheap DVD drive and ignores
all my expensive Blurays ?
I would expect it to be the DVD drive itself, designed to prevent people
forgetting to shut it.
Don't forget that it needs power to do anything, so if
Am 24.07.2015 um 16:37 schrieb Thomas Schmitt:
Hi,
Michael Biebl wrote:
Not sure if the in-kernel polling enabled in
/lib/udev/rules.d/60-block.rules
triggers this specific behaviour for this particular drive.
Can you comment out the following two lines:
ACTION==add, SUBSYSTEM==module,
Hi,
Michael Biebl wrote:
Not sure if the in-kernel polling enabled in
/lib/udev/rules.d/60-block.rules
triggers this specific behaviour for this particular drive.
Can you comment out the following two lines:
ACTION==add, SUBSYSTEM==module, KERNEL==block,
Hi,
Michael Biebl wrote:
/lib/udev/rules.d/60-block.rules
I wrote:
There is no such file in my still quite vanilla 8.1.
Michael Biebl wrote:
Ok, it wasn't clear which Debian version you were using. I was referring
to unstable/testing.
Sorry, i mentioned it in my other thread about
Am 24.07.2015 um 13:48 schrieb Thomas Schmitt:
But here i suspect to be victim of some fancy new feature
of udev or kernel. My list of usual suspects is empty now.
So i ask for new ones.
Not sure if the in-kernel polling enabled in /lib/udev/rules.d/60-block.rules
triggers this specific
Hi,
Lisi Reisz wrote:
I would expect it to be the DVD drive itself,
That would be the first one to do this since i began
to operate them on SCSI level in 2006. (I'm developer of
libburn.)
The drive is new. An LG GH24NSC0.
Regrettably it is built-in to the computer. So i cannot easily
make
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