Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-19 Thread tomas
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 07:11:31AM -, Curt wrote: [...] > I noted the personal nature of your vendetta but fail to admire your > restraint in the matter, which you might have exercised earlier. But > then you wouldn't have had the vain pleasure of its publicity here. > > As far as

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-19 Thread Curt
On 2022-09-18, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >> It reads the screen, doesn't it, for the visually impaired? Screen >> >> reader. >> > >> > ahem, no. >> >>

Re: shellworld.net (for visually impaired users), (was: Re: question for seasoned links users?)

2022-09-18 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 04:18:48PM -0400, Jude DaShiell wrote: [...] > On Sun, 18 Sep 2022, jr wrote: > > > hi, > > > > (sorry, late to the party :-)) > > > > I don't think 'script' has been mentioned yet, a neat way (imo) to > > record the console/terminal. > > > I like tee more than script

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-18 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 10:20:18PM -0400, Maude Summerside wrote: [...] > I feel sorry for you because you are getting angry at the wrong person. > You seem to have lots of frustration. This seems unnecessary to me. Please, back to topic, pretty please. Cheers -- t signature.asc

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-18 Thread tomas
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 10:01:54PM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: [...] > I think you're an obnoxious (choose your own insult here) that doesn't > appear to contribute to the value of any conversations. But that's just > my personal opinion and I expect it may offend policies here, so

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-18 Thread Maude Summerside
On 2022-09-18 13:39, Karen Lewellen wrote: > I think my 30 plus years of lived experience, beats your capacitor to > google. > Given how this exchange has gone, I have little motivation to sensor my > word choice for anyone. > after all, I would no more diminish the racial discrimination  >

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-18 Thread Corentin Bardet
Le 18 Septembre 2022 à 23h01, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk a écrit : > I think you're an obnoxious (choose your own insult here) that doesn't > appear to contribute to the value of any conversations. But that's just > my personal opinion and I expect it may offend policies here, so I'll > stop now.

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-18 Thread debian-user
> On 2022-09-18, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hi curt, others. > > > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2022, Curt wrote: > >> On 2022-09-17, Charles Curley > >> wrote: > >>> On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 11:19:51 -0400 (EDT) > >>> Karen Lewellen wrote: > >>> Hi, Karen. It is possible that he didn't know what a screen >

Re: shellworld.net (for visually impaired users), (was: Re: question for seasoned links users?)

2022-09-18 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ofSomePossibleUse... Back in 2008 or so, I wrote some software for a friend who was teaching at a B/VI school for kids in Austin, Texas. There's still parts missing, and it's not been tidied up for max speed. And it was written in objective-c:

Re: shellworld.net (for visually impaired users), (was: Re: question for seasoned links users?)

2022-09-18 Thread Jude DaShiell
Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Sun, 18 Sep 2022, jr wrote: > hi, > > (sorry, late to the party :-)) > > I don't think 'script' has been mentioned yet, a neat way

Re: shellworld.net (for visually impaired users), (was: Re: question for seasoned links users?)

2022-09-18 Thread jr
hi, (sorry, late to the party :-)) I don't think 'script' has been mentioned yet, a neat way (imo) to record the console/terminal.

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Sun, 18 Sep 2022 11:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Karen Lewellen wrote: > At their best screen readers provide the equal of a monitor, not only > sharing screen content, but keystrokes, error messages, and the like. > Additionally, several populations benefit from them, those with > experiences like

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-18 Thread Jude DaShiell
Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Sun, 18 Sep 2022, Curt wrote: > On 2022-09-17, Charles Curley wrote: > > On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 11:19:51 -0400 (EDT) > > Karen Lewellen

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
I think my 30 plus years of lived experience, beats your capacitor to google. Given how this exchange has gone, I have little motivation to sensor my word choice for anyone. after all, I would no more diminish the racial discrimination experiences of another with a qualifier because I do not

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-18 Thread Curt
On 2022-09-18, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi curt, others. > > On Sun, 18 Sep 2022, Curt wrote: >> On 2022-09-17, Charles Curley wrote: >>> On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 11:19:51 -0400 (EDT) >>> Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> Hi, Karen. It is possible that he didn't know what a screen reader is, >>> or missed

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi curt, others. On Sun, 18 Sep 2022, Curt wrote: On 2022-09-17, Charles Curley wrote: On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 11:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi, Karen. It is possible that he didn't know what a screen reader is, or missed its significance. I didn't know what a screen reader is until

Re: shellworld.net (for visually impaired users), (was: Re: question for seasoned links users?)

2022-09-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
On Sun, 18 Sep 2022, Greg Wooledge wrote: However, the solution ultimately didn't involve any specific features of links. The problem was solved at a different layer (terminal multiplexer). Actually, no it did not, because our solution produced an error, with my ending up solving the problem

Re: shellworld.net (for visually impaired users), (was: Re: question for seasoned links users?)

2022-09-18 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Sep 18, 2022 at 12:23:19AM -0700, dmacdoug wrote: > The OP addressed her question to "seasoned links users" so I'd say > those who have nothing constructive to contribute toward helping her > should just skip the thread if top posting makes them angry. However, the

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-18 Thread Corentin Bardet
Le 18 Septembre 2022 à 10h16, Curt a écrit : > It reads the screen, doesn't it, for the visually impaired? Screen > reader. Sorry for this (at least I’m not top posting…) but : *LMAO* -- Corentin Bardet

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-18 Thread Curt
On 2022-09-17, Charles Curley wrote: > On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 11:19:51 -0400 (EDT) > Karen Lewellen wrote: > >> I supposed you missed the I am using a screen reader memo? > > Hi, Karen. It is possible that he didn't know what a screen reader is, > or missed its significance. I didn't know what a

Re: shellworld.net (for visually impaired users), (was: Re: question for seasoned links users?)

2022-09-18 Thread dmacdoug
ult to skim past the quoted text which you've already read through several times to get to the possibly helpful text at the very bottom. The OP addressed her question to "seasoned links users" so I'd say those who have nothing constructive to contribute toward helping her should j

Re: shellworld.net (for visually impaired users), (was: Re: question for seasoned links users?)

2022-09-18 Thread tomas
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 04:17:45PM -0400, Maude Summerside wrote: [...] > Screen reader or not, what don't you understand by STOP TOP POSTING ? Look. I hate top posting as every other person. Especially in mailing lists, i think it's disruptive for longer threads. But please, try to be polite

Re: shellworld.net (for visually impaired users), (was: Re: question for seasoned links users?)

2022-09-17 Thread Lee
On 9/17/22, Maude Summerside wrote: <.. snip ..> > Screen reader or not, what don't you understand by STOP TOP POSTING ? *plonk*

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 11:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Karen Lewellen wrote: > I supposed you missed the I am using a screen reader memo? Hi, Karen. It is possible that he didn't know what a screen reader is, or missed its significance. I didn't know what a screen reader is until I looked it up just now. --

Re: shellworld.net (for visually impaired users), (was: Re: question for seasoned links users?)

2022-09-17 Thread Maude Summerside
On 2022-09-17 11:55, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Given in my first post I *stated was using a screen reader* the sight > factor  was stated. > Not that searching for shellworld contributed to my question being > answered, or its solution. > For the record, another company owns shellworld now.

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
You don't name the screen shot. Screen does that for you. Look for a file called hardcopy with a number suffix at its end. If that file is present and has more than 0 characters in it, you got what screen can do for you. To check screen's work, grep -i username on the file and grep -i password

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 11:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Karen Lewellen wrote: Hello Karen, >You would lose that bet. Yeah, I found that out; I went back through some of your previous messages where you mention that shellworld are a hosting service. I'd forgotten. On the plus side, it would only have been

Re: shellworld.net (for visually impaired users), (was: Re: question for seasoned links users?)

2022-09-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
Given in my first post I *stated was using a screen reader* the sight factor was stated. Not that searching for shellworld contributed to my question being answered, or its solution. For the record, another company owns shellworld now. On Sat, 17 Sep 2022, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
On Sat, 17 Sep 2022, Curt wrote: That is not what is conventionally meant by a screenshot, which is a digital image of a computer display. Maybe we should ask Karen what she wants and what she means, specifically, by 'screenshot' before launch. Because if all she wants and needs is a text dump,

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:12:03AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Jude, > On Sat, 17 Sep 2022, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > It's possible to run: > > screen links http://site.com > > on a single line then control+a-h to get the screen shot. > > > > > Hi there, > Just to confirm, > I can run the

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
On Sat, 17 Sep 2022, Brad Rogers wrote: Hello David, Since a whois query comes back with "redacted for privacy" about almost everything, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that the OP is the domain's owner. You would lose that bet. Shellworld is a hosting service where I have both a personal

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi again, On Sat, 17 Sep 2022, Jude DaShiell wrote: Screen can be used more effectively than a photo I think. If the hardcopy is successful search for a file called hardcopy.n where n is a number and it should be a larger size than 0. wc -c hardcopy.1 if hardcopy.1 exists would give the

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
On Sat, 17 Sep 2022, mick.crane wrote: If it's a one off thing take a photo and send that. mick I supposed you missed the I am using a screen reader memo? smiles, Kare

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Curt
On 2022-09-17, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: >> >> http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html#subsubch-save_as > > But if you try it, you'll see that saves the page as HTML, not as a > snapshot of the displayed text. What 'displayed text'? She asked for a *screenshot*. >> Save as >> Stores

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
Jude, On Sat, 17 Sep 2022, Jude DaShiell wrote: It's possible to run: screen links http://site.com on a single line then control+a-h to get the screen shot. Hi there, Just to confirm, I can run the screen links site.com command on a single line, navigate to the problem, then run the

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread debian-user
> On 2022-09-17, David wrote: > > > > The documentation website for 'links' is at: > > http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html > > > > and says: > > "You will find here a complete guide for using the Links web > > browser" > > > > and it contains nothing at all about a '-dump' option. > >

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Curt
On 2022-09-17, David wrote: > > The documentation website for 'links' is at: > http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html > > and says: > "You will find here a complete guide for using the Links web browser" > > and it contains nothing at all about a '-dump' option.

shellworld.net (for visually impaired users), (was: Re: question for seasoned links users?)

2022-09-17 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, September 17, 2022 04:28:40 AM David wrote: > On Sat, 17 Sept 2022 at 16:07, Karen Lewellen > Every other time when you have asked questions here, I have tried but > been unable to find any information at all about shellworld.net. A google search for shellworld.net provides hints (I

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 04:03:11PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > I do not understand why you do not simply use the button on your computer > keyboard; if you cannot easily use a Take Screenshot application within > whatever operating system you are using to view the web page, on a standard > 101 key

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread David
On Sat, 17 Sept 2022 at 21:38, Curt wrote: > On 2022-09-17, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > links does have the facility to dump the text to an output file. > > That is not what is conventionally meant by a screenshot, which is a > digital image of a computer display. Maybe we should ask Karen

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Dan Ritter
Karen Lewellen wrote: > I suppose you are suggesting that links, the browser I am actually using, > works like Firefox, the browser to which I have no access whatsoever? No, I'm missing the context of your subject line in your message body. My mistake. -dsr-

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Curt
On 2022-09-17, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > links does have the facility to dump the text to an output file. That is not what is conventionally meant by a screenshot, which is a digital image of a computer display. Maybe we should ask Karen what she wants and what she means, specifically, by

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 10:51:16PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Hi folks, > Does the browser have the ability to create a screenshot after a fashion? > Need to document something for a site owner that will show for them, even if > my screen reader presents it differently. > Thanks, > Karen > >

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread David
On Sat, 17 Sept 2022 at 19:21, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 18:28:40 +1000 David wrote: > >been unable to find any information at all about shellworld.net. > >If you could provide a link to any documentation or information > >about shellworld.net, > > Since a whois query comes back

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 18:28:40 +1000 David wrote: Hello David, >been unable to find any information at all about shellworld.net. >If you could provide a link to any documentation or information >about shellworld.net, Since a whois query comes back with "redacted for privacy" about almost

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread David
On Sat, 17 Sept 2022 at 16:07, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi Karen > While I respect those questions, they are not relevant to my question, This belief of yours is incorrect. > as > It am asking specifically for a command associated with the Links browser. We understand that. The Links browser

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/9/22 14:20, Karen Lewellen wrote: Yes, links is the browser to which I am referring. As stated, I am attempting to help a site owner troubleshoot an issue, that I  experience using links, the browser.  I know a great deal about running   this browser, but have never needed to capture

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
Screen can be used more effectively than a photo I think. If the hardcopy is successful search for a file called hardcopy.n where n is a number and it should be a larger size than 0. wc -c hardcopy.1 if hardcopy.1 exists would give the number of characters in that file and if that number is

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread mick.crane
On 2022-09-17 07:20, Karen Lewellen wrote: Yes, links is the browser to which I am referring. As stated, I am attempting to help a site owner troubleshoot an issue, that I experience using links, the browser. If it's a one off thing take a photo and send that. mick

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Jude DaShiell
It's possible to run: screen links http://site.com on a single line then control+a-h to get the screen shot. Jude "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) . On Sat, 17 Sep 2022, Karen

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
Yes, links is the browser to which I am referring. As stated, I am attempting to help a site owner troubleshoot an issue, that I experience using links, the browser. I know a great deal about running this browser, but have never needed to capture information for someone else, who relies on

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-17 Thread Karen Lewellen
While I respect those questions, they are not relevant to my question, as It am asking specifically for a command associated with the Links browser. I am using a shell service, I cannot use Debian directly. On Sat, 17 Sep 2022, David wrote: On Sat, 17 Sept 2022 at 12:51, Karen Lewellen

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-16 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 16 Sep 2022, Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi folks, Does the browser have the ability to create a screenshot after a fashion? Need to document something for a site owner that will show for them, even if my screen reader presents it differently. Thanks, Karen I've never used links,

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-16 Thread Maude Summerside
On 2022-09-16 23:15, Karen Lewellen wrote: > I suppose you are suggesting that links, the browser I am actually > using, works like Firefox, the browser to which I have no access > whatsoever? > > > > On Fri, 16 Sep 2022, Dan Ritter wrote: > >> Karen Lewellen wrote: >>> Does the browser

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-16 Thread davidson
On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi folks, Does the browser have the ability to create a screenshot after a fashion? Full disclosure: I have never used the "links" text browser. I very quickly searched the following page for any indication that the links browser has a function

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-16 Thread David
Hi Karen When you refer to 'links' in the subject, do you mean the browser documented at: http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html The version of this browser in Debian stable is 2.21. Is that what you are asking about? If I look at the website of that project, it does have some screenshots,

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-16 Thread David
On Sat, 17 Sept 2022 at 12:51, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Does the browser have the ability to create a screenshot after a fashion? > Need to document something for a site owner that will show for them, even > if my screen reader presents it differently. Hi Karen, So that we can help you

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-16 Thread Dan Ritter
Karen Lewellen wrote: > Does the browser have the ability to create a screenshot after a fashion? > Need to document something for a site owner that will show for them, even if > my screen reader presents it differently. Firefox has ctrl-shift-S to take a screenshot. It pops up a menu asking

Re: question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
I suppose you are suggesting that links, the browser I am actually using, works like Firefox, the browser to which I have no access whatsoever? On Fri, 16 Sep 2022, Dan Ritter wrote: Karen Lewellen wrote: Does the browser have the ability to create a screenshot after a fashion? Need to

question for seasoned links users?

2022-09-16 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi folks, Does the browser have the ability to create a screenshot after a fashion? Need to document something for a site owner that will show for them, even if my screen reader presents it differently. Thanks, Karen