xconsole: Couldn't open console
Can someone tell me why xconsole called without the '-file' option isn't able to read /dev/console? I have /dev/console world readable: crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 4, 0 Apr 6 18:58 /dev/console Yet it says it isn't able to open console. On the other hand, xconsole -file /dev/console works... I know I can use /dev/xconsole, and that works as well since you specifically have to specify the -file option. This is an issue of compatibility across different machine types and I'd like xconsole to be able to read from /dev/console without having to specify the file. Clues, anyone? -- Stephen Hsieh Dept. of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science [EMAIL PROTECTED] Univ. of Michigan at Ann Arbor ---
Re: syslogd will not start
On 15:25:22 Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sat, Apr 05, 1997 at 11:04:39AM -0700, Rick Macdonald wrote: Speaking of syslogd, when I boot the machine it hangs for 5 ro 10 seconds when syslogd starts. It didn't used to. I'm running from unstable. Anybody know what it's doing? Does this here too ... Keeps the machine at high CPU load for that time too. (*) I see this here on 1.1 also, but I thought it might be due to my system losing the sense of who it is! I no longer see the hostname on the login prompt, or if I do a uname -a , for example. And, no info goes to /var/log/messages (since syslogd doesn't start I presume). Where else, other than the /etc/hostname does it keep what it believes to be the hostname of the system? If I knew that, I think I could fix this on my endI think!? Paul
Problem with Netscape making zombies!
Hello Debian Users List!, I seem to be having problems with Netscape 3.01 spawning zombie 'netstat' processes, and thus hanging. I was wondering if anybody knows a fix for this. The only cause I can think of for this is that the Netscape coders forgot to do a 'wait' in the parent process. If thats the case, then there's nothing I can do. However, I don't recall this problem ever occuring before with other distributions. So perhaps it's something else besides sloppy coding? And also, I can sometimes get netscape to start. So this sort of alludes to the idea that it's not Netscape's fault but something else. Thanks in advance for any help on this! == Arcadio Alivio Sincero, Jr. a.k.a. The Tick Undergraduate Computer Science Major/Linux Enthusiast/Competitive Bodybuilder email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW:http://www.coming.to.a.web.site.near.you.com Come meet me on quake.linpeople.org for Quake or irc.linpeople.org for IRC!
Re: MC broken?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David/Bill Benjamin) writes: I have deleted the old configuration files, but that did not seem to resolve the problem. However, I did discover something: if I change the SHELL environment variable to anything other than /bin/zsh, it runs just fine. I normally use the zsh shell. Note that /bin/zsh does exist in /etc/shells, and that mc will run even if I put a non-existant program name in SHELL. It just crashes on zsh. I think this has something to do with the newer support for zsh internals. Should I just put export SHELL=/bin/bash in my .zshenv and forget about it, or what? No, you should definitely write a detailed bug report to the MC developers. They are very receptive for user input and do fix the stuff you complain about although ready-to-apply patches are more than welcome. Check out the MC site at http://mc.blackdown.org/mc/; or write directly to Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Regards, P. *8^) -- Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] African Music Archive - Institute for Ethnology and Africa Studies Johannes Gutenberg-University - Forum 6 - 55099 Mainz/Germany Our AMA Homepage in the WWW at http://www.uni-mainz.de/~bender/
Re: Kernel recompile affects X display left-shift?
On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Nathan O. Siemers wrote: Is there anything in a kernel recompile that would affect how XFree performs? I have an AST ascentia laptop, 800x600 screen. The default debian kernel gives an X display that is shifted about 30 pixels to the right. Some of my early recompiles (boot floppies) spontaneously fixed this problem. Now I cannot reproduce the recompile conditions that correct this, and I don't even understand why this would even happen. I've gone through about 15 different kernels in the past two days (trial and error) with no success. Not that i can think of. This could be the reasons why it happens: 1. You move the left or right knob of the display screen. (It happens!) 2. You run xf86config command, and you changed the settings. If it's no.2, then run xvidtune in an xterm window. That will correct the shifting of the screen temporarily. If you want it more permanent, then contact me for more details. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Andre M. Varon Lasaltech, Incorported Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)433-3520 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web page: http://www.lasaltech.com/andre.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: ppp
A. M. Varon wrote: hi, what's the the best init string to pass on to a 14.4 plug n' pray USRobotics modem? And it's not the telephone line bacause this computer is a dual boot debian and windoz95 computer. In windoz, it works fine. I suspect you are connecting without error correction. You could switch on modem logging in Windows'95 for your dialup connection and a file MODEMLOG.TXT will be created in your windows directory. Looking at this you'll see the exact init string that Windows uses... For example my log looks like this: 04-05-1997 16:35:07.09 - Initializing modem. 04-05-1997 16:35:07.09 - Send: ATcr 04-05-1997 16:35:07.10 - Recv: ATcr 04-05-1997 16:35:07.23 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 04-05-1997 16:35:07.23 - Interpreted response: Ok 04-05-1997 16:35:07.23 - Send: ATF1cr 04-05-1997 16:35:07.24 - Recv: ATF1cr 04-05-1997 16:35:07.36 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 04-05-1997 16:35:07.36 - Interpreted response: Ok 04-05-1997 16:35:07.36 - Send: ATS7=60S19=0L0M1M4K1H1R2I0B0X4cr 04-05-1997 16:35:07.40 - Recv: ATS7=60S19=0L0M1M4K1H1R2I0B0X4cr 04-05-1997 16:35:07.50 - Recv: crlfOKcrlf 04-05-1997 16:35:07.50 - Interpreted response: Ok Put YOUR init string in /etc/ppp.chatscript and it should work fine. Mike.
Re: Problem with Netscape making zombies!
Tick == The Tick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tick Hello Debian Users List!, I seem to be having problems with
Tick Netscape 3.01 spawning zombie 'netstat' processes, and thus
Tick hanging. I was wondering if anybody knows a fix for this.
Tick The only cause I can think of for this is that the Netscape
Tick coders forgot to do a 'wait' in the parent process. If
Tick thats the case, then there's nothing I can do.
Tick However, I don't recall this problem ever occuring
Tick before with other distributions. So perhaps it's something
Tick else besides sloppy coding? And also, I can sometimes get
Tick netscape to start. So this sort of alludes to the idea that
Tick it's not Netscape's fault but something else.
I've seen this too. I've found that if I run netscape from an xterm
that is started to NOT be a login shell, ('xterm +ls ') it works, but
if it is one, then netscape hangs with a zombie netstat, after it runs
some MIME tests
It won't start from my TkDesk toolbar, or from an fvwm2 menu. It will
start from ~/.xsession, the same one that starts the fvwm2... It does
the same thing regardless of whether it's been installed with the
Debian installer. I've watched it with tkps, and it runs a series of
programs from /var/lib/mime/tests, and then finally hangs with the
zombie netstat.
It may be environment dependant; I have not isolated the cause yet...
It seems to depend on where I start netscape from.
The /var/lib/mime/tests/* scripts are not the cause; none of them call
netstat. Hmmm. I'm stumped.
Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg
Portland, OR USA
Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t
You tell me and we'll both know.
IBM PS/2 computer
hi there i have just recieved an old IBM PS/2 Model 80 computer (8580). I would like to install debian on it but when i boot with the rescue disk for the install it starts loading then uncompresses to this point: Console: 16 point font, 400 scans Console: colour VGA+ 80x25, 1 virtual console (max 63) pci_init: no BIOS32 detected now it just stops and i have to do a hard boot. any idea as to whats wrong?? -Rob the computer has 4 mgs ram, 386 /50, a big'ol ESDI 70 mg hard drive, and generic VGA vidio card.
Re: How to modify subject of incoming emails using procmail
So the question is, is there an easy way to make a substitution on *only* the 'Subject:' line of the *header* of the mail, either using procmail or something else? Set up a procmail recipe to identify the appropriate messages and then pipe them through formail which can redo the subject.
Re: Problem with Netscape making zombies!
I had a line in my ~/.bash_profile like this: export PATH=.:~/programs/bin:$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin ... hashing it out fixed the netscape problem. It also runs from the fvwm2 menu now, since I added: export PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:~/bin ... to my ~/.xsession just before the call to start fvwm2, which is on the last line of my script. So, the question is: Why does that PATH cause this to happen? Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t You tell me and we'll both know.
Re: IBM PS/2 computer
At 10:43 PM 4/6/97 -0400, System Account wrote: i have just recieved an old IBM PS/2 Model 80 computer (8580). I would like to install debian on it but when i boot with the rescue disk for the install it starts loading then uncompresses to this point: The mod 80 is a microchannel machine. You probably want to look up the HowTos on installing on one. It's a bit different. Historically, support for MCA has been rather lacking, so don't get your hopes up too much. -- Matt
Seem to be hitting a snag.
I am atempting to install debian on a 486. It seems to work fine execpt for the networking part. While booting up it sais NE200 Detected and that it is using IRQ 9. Then It starts to inform me that the network is unreachable. It does this for any ping or DNS search. Anything that anyone could recomend that I check? I was provided IP numbers for use on the machine. I am a bit confused as to what the loop back setings are for. Any sujestions welcome. Thanks.
Re: IBM PS/2 computer
On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, System Account wrote: i have just recieved an old IBM PS/2 Model 80 computer (8580). I would like to install debian on it but when i boot with the rescue disk for the install it starts loading then uncompresses to this point: Don't these things have an MCA bus? And isn't the support for MCA something new in the 2.1 kernel? -douglas
No nfs, no boot
Hi, I have my machine setup to mount a disk on another (Debian) linux machine. Unfortunately when I was rebooting my system, the other machine didn't want to serve me, so my machine hung with: NFS server ottifant not responding, still trying. Now the obvious solution is to fix up the other machine, but the thing which worried me most was the fact that the attempt to nfs mount didn't timeout. Which means that my system is entirely dependent on the other system in order to boot. Why is this so? Thanks. - Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them! -
Re: A Qt alternative for KDE?
From: Lars Hallberg Micro++ [EMAIL PROTECTED] What do You think of a Wrapper Class Libary that makes it easy to write code that runns on diferent widget sets? It's a good idea. There are a number of ways to go about it. One is to take the documented Qt interface and implement it on top of a number of widget sets. In fact, since they have already implemented it on some, we could just start with the others and be perceived as adding value to Qt and programs that use it such as KDE. Another way to do it is to go with another, already free, toolkit. I'd suggest wxWindows for this (do a web search on wxWindows, and someone just contributed a wxWindows-on-X package to Debian). There is an existing wxWindows implementation for curses, but it is back several revisions from the current wxWindows version. The disadvantage is that you'd have to write wxWindows desktop tools rather than use the existing KDE ones. Rather than use curses, try s-lang and its terminal support. It's smaller and simpler. Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: code-names
From: Vadim Vygonets [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. What's good about GNU libc? All Linux distributions without exception have decided to use it, as far as I am aware. I think this is because H.J. Lu, the current Linux libc maintainer, led the movement. The library will be used on, Hurd, and MkLinux. 2. Whose libc is libc5? That is GNU libc too, but when work on LIBC was dead in the water H.J. fixed (or hacked) it for Linux. The new libc merges in H.J. code into the main GNU source thread or replaces it with something better. Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [EMAIL PROTECTED] 510-215-3502 Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key. PGP fingerprint = 88 6A 15 D0 65 D4 A3 A6 1F 89 6A 76 95 24 87 B3
Re: No nfs, no boot
I have my machine setup to mount a disk on another (Debian) linux machine. Unfortunately when I was rebooting my system, the other machine didn't want to serve me, so my machine hung with: NFS server ottifant not responding, still trying. Now the obvious solution is to fix up the other machine, but the thing which worried me most was the fact that the attempt to nfs mount didn't timeout. Which means that my system is entirely dependent on the other system in order to boot. Why is this so? I am guessing that something is probably trying to access a file on the NFS mounted drive. You could try using the soft option when mounting it. From the nfs man page: soft If an NFS file operation has a major time out then report an I/O error to the calling program. The default is to continue retry ing NFS file operations indefinitely. Alternatively, use amd to automount the drive as necessary. That works really nicely. Steve
Re: IBM PS/2 computer
Greetings, installing debian on IBM PS/2s can be tricky, more info can be gather at http://glycerine.itsmm.uni.edu/mca/ or even an IBM PS/2 boot disk at ftp.dcrl.nd.edu/pub/misc/linux good luck let me know your result jd? ++ | Jesus Duran ||_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] || _/ _/_/| | www.iit.edu/~durajes|| _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/ | |hiphop,debian,programming,life || _/ _/ _/| | Mexica ||_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ | ++ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Would Debian tell a fib?
Hi, In the file /etc/X11/config it says: # This file contains configuration flags for the X Window System. # For a description of the meanings of the flags, see # /usr/doc/X11/debian.README And yet the file /usr/doc/X11/debian.README doesn't exist. Does anyone know where it is? Or is there now a new way of finding out what the flags mean? Thanks. - Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them! -
Netscape Communicator 4.0b3 status
Forwarded message: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Apr 7 01:53:37 PDT 1997 Article: 11189 of linux.debian.user Path: nntp2.ba.best.com!shellx.best.com!not-for-mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zenon Fortuna) Newsgroups: linux.debian.user Subject: Netscape Communicator 4.0b3 status Date: 7 Apr 1997 01:51:08 -0700 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Lines: 16 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NNTP-Posting-Host: shellx.best.com Xref: nntp2.ba.best.com linux.debian.user:11189 The Netscape Communicator 4.0beta3 works for me without crashes. The 4.0b2 was crashing every time when I tried to run Java applets. This time I could run all the applets from the /usr/doc/jdk/demo directory without crash. The speed had improved as well. I run the Debian/GNU Linux 1.2 (the current stable version) with the libc taken from the unstable distribution. As the result, instead of the /lib/libc.so.5.4.20 (from the stable) I have the /lib/libc.so.5.4.23 from the unstable. Looks like a great progress in stability. ... but I still prefer the Netscape 3.0 feellook. Zenon
Kernel panic
Hi, Two days ago I managed to recompile my own kernel. It went roughly OK I only tried it on my office computer today though and there seems to be a problem. I seem to have chosen a wrong option since at a very early stage of booting I get the following error VFS: cannot open root device 03:03 kernel panic VFS: unable to mount root fs on 03:03 Could somebody please tell me what went wrong? I have /dev/hda1 as my dos partition /dev/hda2 as my swap partition and /de/hda3 as my root partition I would appreciate any help. Thanks George --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DS U.K.E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Re: Kernel panic
Thanks for your reply I am afraid root is set to /dev/hda3 The precompiled 2.0.29 kernel works fine. The problem seems to be in the options chosen for the new kernel . I just don't know which one I must change :-( Thanks George On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Steffen R. Mueller wrote: Thus spake G. Kapetanios ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi George, Two days ago I managed to recompile my own kernel. It went roughly OK I only tried it on my office computer today though and there seems to be a problem. I seem to have chosen a wrong option since at a very early stage of booting I get the following error VFS: cannot open root device 03:03 kernel panic VFS: unable to mount root fs on 03:03 Oh, then only the root device was set wrong. Asuming you're using LILO you can force to mount the boot device like /dev/hda3 with the following command on the LILO prompt : LILO : linux root=/dev/hda3 This should work. After doing that you can change the root device used by default with the rdev command. man rdev will give you the required information. BTW : rdev can also change the video mode a.s.o. You see... not really a big problem ;-) Greetings, Steffen -- - NTG Netzwerk und Telematic GmbH, Sitz Chemnitz. Kreisgericht Chemnitz/Stadt HRB 4217 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Michael Rotert - Steffen R. Mueller __ ___ _ _ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NTG Netzwerk und Telematic GmbH\ \/ / (_)_ __ | | __ fax : +49 721 9652 210 Geschaeftsbereich Xlink \ /| | | '_ \| |/ / phone: +49 721 9652 211 Vincenz-Priessnitz-Str. 3 / \| | | | | | RIPE : SM25-RIPE D-76131 Karlsruhe, Germany /_/\_\_|_|_| |_|_|\_\ WWW.Xlink.net/~steffen INTERNET. MIT SICHERHEIT --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DS U.K.E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
TKinfo - How Customize?
Hello All, I downloaded the TKinfo .deb package and need to customize it (Font size, cursor, colors, etc). Followed the instructions in the help file for making a /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/tkinfo global customization file but it does not change the defaults of TKinfo. I only want to change the global defaults for TKinfo and leave all other defaults alone. What must I do to accomplish this? Does Debian use some other customization scheme? Victor
Re: Kernel recompile affects X display left-shift?
A. M. Varon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Nathan O. Siemers wrote: Is there anything in a kernel recompile that would affect how XFree performs? I have an AST ascentia laptop, 800x600 screen. The default debian kernel gives an X display that is shifted about 30 pixels to the right. Some of my early recompiles (boot floppies) spontaneously fixed this problem. Now I cannot reproduce the recompile conditions ... Not that i can think of. This could be the reasons why it happens: 1. You move the left or right knob of the display screen. (It happens!) Don't think so. :) 2. You run xf86config command, and you changed the settings. The thing is, I can pop in a different kernel boot disk and it changes the horizontal shift of the screen, without me touching any X settings. xvidtune (and a change to XF86Config) *has* allowed me to shift the offending screen of the offending kernels, but I am still perplexed as to how this can happen. Perhaps it is a bug I should ignore? If it's no.2, then run xvidtune in an xterm window. That will correct the shifting of the screen temporarily. If you want it more permanent, then contact me for more details. nathan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Andre M. Varon Lasaltech, Incorported Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)433-3520 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web page: http://www.lasaltech.com/andre.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- Nathan Siemers - Department of Bioinformatics Bristol-Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute K14-06, P.O. Box 4000, Princeton, NJ 08543-4000; (609) 252-6568
Unidentified subject!
I have xdm running permanently and managing user logins. In order to make full use of exmh I had to get xdm authorisation running. I didn't fully understand the process and I am even more baffled now, because only root and I are able to log in; all other users get thrown out immediately because X refuses to run their processes. On the other hand, a new user (which I created for testing this problem) IS able to log in! The size of the .Xauthority file in a failed user's directory is 0. I tried copying all my own . files into another user's directory, but this made no difference. I then looked in /etc and /usr/X* for files which might have my ownership; all seems OK. I don't know if /etc/X11/config is right: the documentation file /usr/doc/X11/debian.README does not exist on my system. The only altered file in /etc/X11/xdm is Xservers, which does not seem to be relevant. Can anyone tell me just how the authorisation procedure works and what controls which users' processes are allowed to run? /var/log/xdm-errors says: AUDIT: Mon Apr 7 00:41:15 1997: 433 X: client 2 rejected from local host AUDIT: Mon Apr 7 00:41:15 1997: 433 X: client 2 rejected from local host AUDIT: Mon Apr 7 00:41:15 1997: 433 X: client 2 rejected from local host AUDIT: Mon Apr 7 00:41:15 1997: 433 X: client 2 rejected from local host AUDIT: Mon Apr 7 00:41:15 1997: 433 X: client 4 rejected from local host AUDIT: Mon Apr 7 00:41:15 1997: 433 X: client 2 rejected from local host AUDIT: Mon Apr 7 00:41:15 1997: 433 X: client 2 rejected from local host X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). /etc/X11/config: run-xconsole obey-nologin allow-user-resources allow-user-modmap allow-user-xsession allow-failsafe start-xdm no-xdm-start-server Xservers: :0 Local local /usr/bin/X11/X :0 xdm-config:! $XConsortium: xdm-conf.cpp,v 1.2 93/09/28 14:30:32 gildea Exp $ DisplayManager.authDir: /var/lib/xdm DisplayManager.errorLogFile:/var/log/xdm-errors DisplayManager.pidFile: /var/run/xdm-pid DisplayManager.keyFile: /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-keys DisplayManager.servers: /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers DisplayManager.accessFile: /etc/X11/xdm/Xaccess DisplayManager._0.authorize:true DisplayManager._0.resources:/etc/X11/xdm/Xresources_0 DisplayManager._0.setup:/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 DisplayManager._0.startup: /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup_0 DisplayManager._0.reset:/etc/X11/xdm/Xreset_0 DisplayManager*resources: /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources DisplayManager*setup: /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup DisplayManager*startup: /etc/X11/xdm/Xstartup DisplayManager*reset: /etc/X11/xdm/Xreset DisplayManager*session: /etc/X11/Xsession DisplayManager*userPath:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/ games DisplayManager*systemPath: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/b in:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 DisplayManager*authComplain:true Xaccess: * #any host can get a login window * CHOOSER BROADCAST #any indirect host can get a chooser -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://homepages.enterprise.net/olly pgp60PiusVWfV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Netscape Communicator 4.0b3 status (fwd)
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Re: Netscape Communicator 4.0b3 status (fwd)
On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Gary Lee wrote: Where can I find the 4.0b3 Netscape? home.netscape.com and its mirrors... I suppose ;-) cu philipp -- - Ph. Grau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technische FH Wildau Wildau, Brandenburg, Germany
Re: How to modify subject of incoming emails using procmail
On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Christian Hudon wrote: So the question is, is there an easy way to make a substitution on *only* the 'Subject:' line of the *header* of the mail, either using procmail or something else? Sure. man formail. I wonder, however, why on earth you would want to do this. Why not, instead just send the mail from that list to its own folder like: :0: * ^TOdebian-user $HOME/mail/debian Jason Costomiris | Finger for PGP 2.6.2 Public Key [EMAIL PROTECTED] | There is a fine line between idiocy My employers like me, but not| and genius. We aim to erase that line enough to let me speak for them. | --Unknown http://www.jasons.org/~jcostom
Children's software for Linux
Is that an oxymoron? Alan -- Alan Eugene Davis Marianas High School 15o 8.8'N GMT+10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] AAA 196 Box 10,001145o 42.5'E Saipan, MP 96950 Northern Mariana Islands An inviscid theory of flow renders the screw useless, but the need for one nonexistent.-- Lord Raleigh
xbuffy 3.3
Some people want to try xbuffy. It can be downloaded from tigger.itc.virginia.edu:/pub/src Carlos
bad FS errors after umount -a
Hi! a few days ago I wrote an article, but it never appeared on my local newsserver (although I got replies!), so I can't follow up to it. :-( The thing is: I *am* getting desperate now. Every time, I reboot my linux box e2fsck finds massive errors. Often times somewhere under /usr/lib/terminfo. I have no idea what I could be doing wrong. I always shutdown my system with a proper shutdown or halt command. I tried to investigate the error a little more and found, that when I do init 1 then umount -a and then e2fsck /dev/sdb6 I already get a lot of errors. (see below). This happens no matter how long Linux was running or whether I started any large program or not. Here is a short description of my setup: I am using 2 x 2GB Quantum SCSI HDs on an Adaptec 2940 SCSI host. On the first there is a Win95, a Win3.11 partition and 2 FAT data partitions. At the very end of this HD there is the OS/2 Boot Manager. On the second HD, there is another Win 3.11 partition (primary partition) and the root, var and swap partitions for Linux. /home is a link to /var/home, /usr is on the root partition. Hm, did I forget anything important? Oh, yes, I've got the Debian 1.2.4 distribution installed. Here are the error messages I am seeing: When I boot I get this: /dev/sdb6 contains a file system with errors, check forced. Then e2fsck starts and often with this: blabla...check manually...blabla (sorry, don't remember the exact words) When I invoke e2fsck manually I get this: duplicate blocks found (inode 128523:4951) (different every time off course) (inode 136681:1491) /usr/lib/terminfo/d modified Dec 30th 96 /usr/lib/zoneinfo/America modified Dec 29th 96 etc. Then next time I mount the fs (after a reboot) I get this: /dev/sdb6 clean EXT2-fs error (device 08:16): ext2_check_inodes_bitmap: wrong free inodes count in group0, stored 1668, counted 1667 EXT2-fs error (device 08:16): ext2_check_inodes_bitmap: wrong free inodes count in superblock, stored 126360, counted 126359 BTW, /dev/sdb6 is my / partition. Please help me, I really don't feel like booting Linux anymore since afterwards I always have to fix all these errors. :-( Thanks so much in advance, Andy. PS: Followup set to: comp.os.linux.misc Andy Spiegl, PhD Student, Technical University, Muenchen, Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.appl-math.tu-muenchen.de/~spiegl PGP fingerprint: B8 48 24 7B DB 96 6F 1C D9 6D 8E 6C DB C2 E7 E9 o _ _ _ - __o __o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) --- _`\,__`\,__(_) (_)/_\_| \ _|/' \/ -- (_)/ (_) (_)/ (_) (_)(_) (_)(_)' _\o_ ~~~
Re: Seem to be hitting a snag.
Nathanael Nunes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am atempting to install debian on a 486. It seems to work fine execpt
for the networking part. While booting up it sais NE200 Detected and
Sounds like your network is not being setup properly at boot. Even after
the card is detected the system needs to add routes in and out over
it. This is usually done in /etc/init.d/network. Here's mine:
#! /bin/sh
ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1
route add -net 127.0.0.0
IPADDR=132.248.6.33
NETMASK=255.255.255.0
NETWORK=132.248.6.0
BROADCAST=132.248.6.255
GATEWAY=132.248.6.254
ifconfig eth0 ${IPADDR} netmask ${NETMASK} broadcast ${BROADCAST}
route add -net ${NETWORK}
route add default gw ${GATEWAY} metric 1
IPADDR is your IP address, etc. You could look at the `ifconfig' and
`route' man pages for more details, as well as the NET-2-HOWTO.
Hope that helps,
Graeme
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Re: XFree86 Mouse problem on PS2 mouse.
On Fri, 4 Apr 1997, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: On 2 Apr 1997, R. Chris Ross wrote: I recently sent a message regarding a problem that I am having with my mouse on XFree86. The mouse is a PS2 style of Mouse Systems mouse. According to the documentation that I have found the only setting in the XF86Config file that will work in the PS2 setting. When I run XF86Setup the only driver setting that seams to come close is the PS2 setting because the MouseSystems driver seams to only be set up for a serial mouse and this mouse is NOT a serial mouse. I have tried quite a selection of things and am getting quite frustrated. When using the PS2 driver the 3 buttons work fine and the mouse works fine going left to right or bottom to top. The problem is when going the other direction, where the mouse shoots immediately to the edge of the screen. This really is interesting to use. The thing works perfectly fine in Win 95 so the mouse is fine I just can't get the thing to respond properly in X. Please help. Hi Chris. Are you using gpm? I've heard that gpm should not be running when running X if you have a PS2 mouse. I also recall having a mouse like you describe (same brand even) work with the same settings you describe, but I did not install gpm on that machine. If gpm is not the problem, let me know and I'll look for the XF86Config file from that machine. I didn't respond to the original query because I didn't understand why the mouse should work for all but one particular direction. However, I can't see why there should be a problem with running X and gpm. I run both these with a M$ PS/2 mouse. My kernel has Mouse support (not serial mouse) and PS/2 mouse (aka auxiliary device) compiled in (not modules) and I have -R set in gpm. XF86Config is set to Mouse Systems protocol from /dev/gpmdata and it all works fine. BTW I did try running /usr/sbin/xbase-configure and liked it BUT don't touch the mouse until after APPLYing the right protocol and device. If you do, quit and start over; it's difficult to regain control of the screen once a bazillion inappropriate mouse interrupts are being processed. -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151
Re: Seem to be hitting a snag.
Take a look at /etc/resolv.conf. It needs to have some lines in it. Mine looks like; domain CRAY.COM search cray.com sgi.com nameserver 128.162.xx.xx nameserver 128.162.xx.xx Where the nameserver lines point to the ip address of the DNS host or domain name server. Also take a look at your /etc/gateways file. Mine looks like: net default gateway 128.162.xx.xx metric 1 where the ip address points to the gateway here. BTW, the xx was really a 1 2 or 3 digit number less than 256 that was removed for security. 8^) Don't try to use those exact entries, but substitue the ip address of your DNS host and gateway. Nathanael Nunes wrote: I am atempting to install debian on a 486. It seems to work fine execpt for the networking part. While booting up it sais NE200 Detected and that it is using IRQ 9. Then It starts to inform me that the network is unreachable. It does this for any ping or DNS search. Anything that anyone could recomend that I check? I was provided IP numbers for use on the machine. I am a bit confused as to what the loop back setings are for. Any sujestions welcome. Thanks. -- Jim Lynch, System Engineer, SGI/Cray Research, Inc. / ARS: K4GVO Federal Business Systems, Phone: (770) 631-2254, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree City, GA 30269
Is Bo frozen???
Hi, is Bo frozen already? When Rex got frozen I received a message from Debian-Announce saying so. I also read in www.debian.org that Rex was frozen. I think I have heard that Bo is frozen but I have not checked the FTP sites yet. Bye, Eloy.- -- Eloy A. Paris Information Technology Department Rockwell Automation de Venezuela Telephone: +58-2-9432311 Fax: +58-2-9430323
Re: Kernel panic
On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, G. Kapetanios wrote: Two days ago I managed to recompile my own kernel. It went roughly OK I only tried it on my office computer today though and there seems to be a problem. I seem to have chosen a wrong option since at a very early stage of booting I get the following error VFS: cannot open root device 03:03 kernel panic VFS: unable to mount root fs on 03:03 Perhaps you forgot to compile in EIDE support (if you have an EIDE disk, which most modern non-SCSI disks are)? -- David Wright, Open University, Earth Science Department, Milton Keynes MK7 6AA U.K. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +44 1908 653 739 fax: +44 1908 655 151
Re: Is Bo frozen???
is Bo frozen already? When Rex got frozen I received a message from Debian-Announce saying so. I also read in www.debian.org that Rex was frozen. I think I have heard that Bo is frozen but I have not checked the FTP sites yet. Yes, it is. It was announced to debian-user, but not debian-announce (that I know of). Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe, hope like hell
Re: Configuring Xfree86 for X display
I would try one of two things. First run SuperProbe and see what linux sees your card as. Edit your XF86Config file to reflect what you have learned from the SuperProbe. Second run the XF86Setup program check the video card data base to see if the card is in their. If it is it will tell you the various settings you need to set to get it working. I hope this helps but if it doesn't don't blame me. The usual disclamer. Paul McDermott | E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Computer Braille Facility | Phone Number: (519) 661-3061 University OF Western Ontario | Fax Number: (519) 661-3949 University Community Centre - Rm. #215 | Web Address: www.braille.uwo.ca/~paul London Ontario | N6A 5B8| LINUX RULES!!! On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, THEMBA MFANA WASE ROOIPORT wrote: Hi good people I am new in the group and I a novice in the linux world. I would like to ask for help in configuring the X windows interface in linux. I have attempted but with no success. I have 200Mhz Gateway pc with an STB Virge/VX 4MB 3D PCI video card. The Xfree86 display conf. file has a lot of STB chipset listing and I have no idea which one matches my card (no one specifies Virge/VX). I would appriciate you help on this one. Themba Themba Bhungane
Re: Safer package installation
Raymond A. Ingles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Installed packages go to a specific place in the file hierarchy, e.g. /usr/packages/package-name/. There's /usr/packages/name/lib/, /usr/packages/name/bin/, etc. A script then makes symlinks from, say, /usr/lib/file-name to /usr/packages/package-name/lib/file-name. What about performance? I don't think a system full of symlinks would be so fast. -- Alair Pereira do Lago [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ime.usp.br/~alair Computer Science Department -- Universidade de S~ao Paulo -- Brazil
long-standing netscape problem fixed
I have found a fix to a long-standing problem I have had with printing from Netscape on versions after 2.0. I discovered the web page http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html which explains the problem and gives a fix. Thanks to Theofilu Andreas for the fix. Naturally, it wasn't a Linux problem, but the fact that Netscape had not kept up with the latest Linux libraries and the source was not provided to recompile. The odd thing about this problem is that no one that I know experienced the same symptom (not printing correctly). -- /--\ | James D. Freels, P.E._i, Ph.D. | Phone: (423)576-8645 | | L | | Oak Ridge National Laboratory | FAX:(423)574-9172 | H | I | | Research Reactors Division | Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | F | N | | P. O. Box 2008 | Reactor Technology | I | U | | Oak Ridge, Tennessee 37831-6392 | world's best neutrons! | R | X | \--/
problrms with stop-start daemon in nis
I installed the nis, netbase, and netstd packages on the machines in my lab, and followed the nis.debian.howto in setting up the master and slave. The master seems to be doing well, but the slave cannot seem to find the start-stop daemon. Is there anything special I need to do in order to get the slave to recognize the daemon? Thanks in Advance, and please reply to this address, in addition to the list. -Mike
HELP!! Boot Disk Problems
I ATTEMPTED to install the Debian 1.2.4 off of a CheapBytes CD and the boot disks hung on the md driver and I could not go any further, I have a working Slackware, so I compiled a Ramdisk enabled kernel, stuck it on the disk and rebooted, that worked fine, but the kernel seemed to hang on running rc, but when I switched console I found on console 2, an active prompt, so I ran dselect and everything went ok. Is there any fix for this. Also once I installed Abuse (video game) I couldn't get the mouse to work and it went quickly through the opening screens (the text didn't scroll it just faded the screen in and out again). I tried turning the mouse off (unloading gpm). But it just hung Abuse. My Mouse is a Microsoft/MouseSystems flip-switch type and it works fine with gpm.
Windows for Worgroups
What do I need to do to Linux so that I can go to File Manager on a Windows for Workgroups network and have it recognize that there is another computer on the network to connect to? I can get the two computers to talk to each other with both under Windows for work groups. I have the ethernet card driver installed for Linux I believe I loaded support for Windows for Worgroups when I compiled the Linux Kernal. But when I go to access the files on the Linux machine Windows for Workgroups doesn't see that there's another computer (or filesystem) connected to the network. I tried looking for the Windows for Workgroups Mini How To but couldn't find one that excactly addressed WFW and Linux. Thanks in advance.
Re: Windows for Worgroups
In your email to me, MR DAVID C STEIN, you wrote: What do I need to do to Linux so that I can go to File Manager on a Windows for Workgroups network and have it recognize that there is another computer on the network to connect to? I can get the two computers to talk to each other with both under Windows for work groups. I have the ethernet card driver installed for Linux I believe I loaded support for Windows for Worgroups when I compiled the Linux Kernal. But when I go to access the files on the Linux machine Windows for Workgroups doesn't see that there's another computer (or filesystem) connected to the network. I tried looking for the Windows for Workgroups Mini How To but couldn't find one that excactly addressed WFW and Linux. Install the Samba package on your linux box. You also need the tcpip drivers from MS (they are free) for all this to work. Tim -- (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / (home) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.buoy.com/~tps You have not converted a man because you have silenced him. - John Morley ** Disclaimer: My views/comments/beliefs, as strange as they are, are my own.**
Re: How to modify subject of incoming emails using procmail
Hi, It is trivial in mailagent, but since you have already invested time in procmail, look at formail (it probably is not worth switching to mailagent for something like this). manoj -- I'm not happy until I've violated somebody's civil rights and then put them in jail. ... That ruins their day ... but it makes mine. Christopher Commision report of LAPD car-to-car computer message, 7/91 Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/
Re: Windows for Worgroups
You need samba. The SMB howto will help. I am setting up a Linux Documentation Project mirror at http://www.wtop.com/ all the howtos and mini-howtos are already there. On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, MR DAVID C STEIN wrote: What do I need to do to Linux so that I can go to File Manager on a Windows for Workgroups network and have it recognize that there is another computer on the network to connect to? Paul Wade - Greenbush Technologies Corporation http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide
Re: Safer package installation
On Sat, 5 Apr 1997, John Foster wrote: I see a couple of problems: From a users perspective the clourisation option for ls will be close to useless, as almost everything under /usr will be pale blue. Unless you use ls -L. Not to be pedantic (honest!), but from the man page: --- -L If argument is a symbolic link, list the file or direc- tory the link references rather than the link itself. --- Color-ls handles this just the way you'd expect. The other one may be just a problem due to my personal laziness. I like to take some binaries, mv then to old_name.dist, chmod then to 750 and put a little script undr the old name explaining why users can't use binaries they expect to be useable (a slightly fascist approach, but at least I'm polite enough to let them know why!). There isn't any reason why this wouldn't work just the same. Symbolic links reference the file name, so all you need to do is go into /usr/packages/whatever/bin/ and shuffle the files around as you describe above. The symbolic link will point to the script. The old file is right there as /usr/packages/whatever/bin/whateverbin.dist. I assume that the /usr/packages/* would be meant to be modified by dpkg and the install scripts, and not by me (so as to not break too much!). Well, actually, one of the benefits of this scheme is that you can do a fair amount of customization and it's still easy to remove automatically later. You should be able to do quite a bit under the package's root directory without mucking up dpkg. Symlinks inherit the permissions of the source... Well, technically, they inherit the logical product of the source's permissions and the link's permissions. Thus, you can remove permissions with a link, but not add them. Therefore, the permissions the users will see will be *at most* 750. Sincerely, Ray Ingles (810)377-7735 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Modern deductive method: 1) Devise hypothesis. 2) Apply for grant. 3) Perform experiments. 4) Revise hypothesis. 5) Backdate revised hypothesis. 6) Publish.
Re: Safer package installation
On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Dima wrote: ... Aint that simple -- the standard debian-provided script released yesterday has to know how to handle a new package I will release tomorrow. [...] Well, actually, my description wasn't entirely complete. The idea is, you have a set of directories that specify how links are made. For example: /usr/packages/name/usr/doc- /usr/doc /usr/packages/name/usr/lib- /usr/lib /usr/packages/name/usr/local/lib - /usr/local/lib /usr/packages/name/bin- /usr/bin /usr/packages/name/etc- /etc /usr/packages/name/etc/ppp- /etc/ppp Thus, all the package needs to do is set up the appropriate directory structure in its own area and this is mapped to the wider system in a straightforward fashion. Obviously there are files and directories that shouldn't be mucked with, like /etc/passwd, which Debian *already* prompts for before replacing. This would of course continue. Ok, the alternative is that the script uses the information provided inside the package, which is precisely what we have now [...] With the exception that the package doesn't muck with the rest of the filesystem directly. It has to go through a script with some sanity checks. and the only benefits of your scheme is a different (read non-standard) directory structure and heaps of symlinks -- waste of [nowadays cheap] disk space... As you state, disk space is now pretty cheap. That's not an excuse to wantonly waste disk a la Microsoft, but symlinks aren't exactly huge. Almost everyone uses ELF nowadays even though a.out has a very small performance advantage, and I think the benefit/drawback ratio is about the same here. possibility of symlinks pointing to unmounted filesystems, Now *here* is a substantial objection. This *does* require careful attention. The ideal is for /usr to be mountable read-only (as off a CD), which is why we assumed we'd put the packages directory under usr. [ add more here ] ... Well, at least one advantage is a *very* quick way to switch between versions of software. If an upgrade doesn't work, it's pretty quick to downgrade if the old /usr/packages/pkgname directory is still around. Also, it can simplify the support of multiple architectures. That's how it's used at work. Also, customization is simpler. If you go to /usr/packages/pkgname, then everything that has to do with that package is right there. You don't have to do as much guessing and searching and such to figure out what files the program needs and where it puts them and so on. And don't tell me I can't exploit the script to screw up people's systems: it has to modify at least /etc, in addition to changing symlinks (unless of course we move all the configuration files from /etc -- nice thing about standards is that we don't have to follow them.) No, the config files still go there, if that's where the software wants them. Aieee, /vmlinuz is a symlink pointing to /usr/kernel-image/vmlinuz, but /usr is not mounted! Not a good day to die! A kernel image is a wonderful example of a package that needs a root-level script to run, to replace /vmlinuz. Some packages *have* to do fundamental system-level operations. That is entirely clear, thank you. What we are proposing is minimizing the number of packages that do that, and mimimizing the number of operations that are performed by the packages that do. Yes, there are exceptions. Indeed. Eg. all packages that have system-wide config files have them in /etc. And we have taken that into account, sorry my description didn't make that clear at first. ... Dselect and dpkg can be set to prompt, This package requires a script to run as user root. Do you want to [e]xamine the script, [r]un it, or [a]bort installation? Read: do you want to suspend dselect, su to root and continue? Do you want to suspend dselect, login as root, install and configure su and then continue? Do you want to do all of the above, go learn Perl, examine the script and _then continue? Oh [EMAIL PROTECTED], why didn't I run dselect as root in the first place? Where's my nearest RedHat mirror? If you don't want extra security, you don't have to have it. Dselect/dpkg can be configured to avoid prompting if it's already root, or a command-line option can be set up. This is not a reason to ditch the idea of providing extra security to those that want it. Even if dpkg is running as root, it can still run the non-privileged scripts as a less-empowered user to minimize the damage that bugs in those scripts can cause. ... This does require revision of dpkg, dselect, and the .deb format. And in the end, we will still rely on the very same thing -- that people involved didn't insert malicious code in the package, and that bugs will be soon found by us users, and promptly corrected. Provided that us users learn Perl, etc., so we *can* debug them. (That same objection applies here too. You can't have it both ways.) What this offers is
Getting started with the JE Debian packages
Hi, I've recently downloaded a sizeable amount of JP-Debian packages from ftp.linux.or.jp in order to enable my system to type and write Japanese. However, now that I have them I find I need some help to get started in using them :-( KON and KTerm seem to work fine for displaying japanese characters, but I'm having a hard time figuring out how to input anything. From what I've read in the JE-HOWTO and the JE Linux for Gaijin FAQ I figured I'd need the canna, mule and kinput2-canna packages, so I've installed them on my system. I've paged through some of the relevant stuff in /usr/doc, but it doesn't seem to tell me how I can actually use them, so hints or pointers to more english documentation would be very much appreciated. Since this is a highly specific subject I'd like to ask you to mail your answers to me directly. I'll summarize my findings for the list later on. On a more general note, does the fact that KON recently appeared in unstable mean that JP-Debian has started to filter down into the regular distribution? Thanks in adavance, -- Thomas Baetzler, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF=http://www.fh-karlsruhe.de/~bath0011/Visit my Homepage!/A The cowards never came, and the weaklings died on the way - R.A.H.
Re: Sound support in kernel recompile
Hi, Could you mail me a screen dump of the configuration attempt? Have you looked at and added the patch found in the file /usr/doc/kernel-package.Problems.gz? My SB AWE32 config options are given below, and the sound card works fine, I just can't get the wave synthesis to work. manoj # # Sound # CONFIG_SOUND=y # CONFIG_PAS is not set CONFIG_SB=y # CONFIG_ADLIB is not set # CONFIG_GUS is not set # CONFIG_MPU401 is not set # CONFIG_PSS is not set # CONFIG_GUS16 is not set # CONFIG_GUSMAX is not set # CONFIG_MSS is not set # CONFIG_SSCAPE is not set # CONFIG_TRIX is not set # CONFIG_MAD16 is not set # CONFIG_CS4232 is not set # CONFIG_MAUI is not set CONFIG_YM3812=y SBC_BASE=220 SBC_IRQ=5 SBC_DMA=1 SB_DMA2=5 SB_MPU_BASE=330 # # MPU401 IRQ is only required with Jazz16, SM Wave and ESS1688. # # # Enter -1 to the following question if you have something else such as SB16/32. # SB_MPU_IRQ=-1 CONFIG_LOWLEVEL_SOUND=y # CONFIG_ACI_MIXER is not set CONFIG_AWE32_SYNTH=y # CONFIG_AEDSP16 is not set -- It is best to avoid volcanos whenever possible. Manoj Srivastava url:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile, Alabama USAurl:http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/
Re: Windows for Worgroups
Paul Wade wrote: You need samba. The SMB howto will help. I am setting up a Linux Documentation Project mirror at http://www.wtop.com/ all the howtos and mini-howtos are already there. On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, MR DAVID C STEIN wrote: What do I need to do to Linux so that I can go to File Manager on a Windows for Workgroups network and have it recognize that there is another computer on the network to connect to? Paul Wade - Greenbush Technologies Corporation http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide I believe you will also have to compile Windows for Workgroups support into you kernel (Netbios/LanManager) Regards, Peter Iannarelli Bits/KeyIDNIC Phone 512/EC3AF635 PI113 416.929.1885 -BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK- Version: 2.6.3i mQBNAzMi3UYAAAECAMX2nqFD53kvbt4OqJUQeFiGWWR/tywBlKSfpFNnf7Fu9r7+ hVSZAJOl/bWEyLh/OPcWtPqw37Qdnvo/Eew69jUABRG0EFBldGVyIElhbm5hcmVs bGmJAFUDBRAzIt1Gnvo/Eew69jUBAZpyAfwNtTwRJVhNir1IQnjClY7a4cQpP4ln HMny+XQqO4g5zlQXDrHByBb62c8f2OyBr08VxRUeegzTk6d7hvb8PNIz =LKmM -END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-
Question about dselect..
I have a base debian system installed on my 586 133 mhz. I got the Cheap Bytes cd and am trying to install packages, specifically the Xwindows packages. These are located in a directory called rex-fixe on the cd. I must be missing something here, but I cannot get dselect to recognize that directory. I've tried letting the program scan the various directories on the cd, tried over over to do it manually to no avail. I've read the faq, etc. on dselect. I'm new to linux, so (once again..) I'm sure this is user error. Any suggestions out there? TIA!!
Re: Seem to be hitting a snag.
Thanks for the assitance. Its finaly working. Jim Lynch wrote: Take a look at /etc/resolv.conf. It needs to have some lines in it. Mine looks like; domain CRAY.COM search cray.com sgi.com nameserver 128.162.xx.xx nameserver 128.162.xx.xx Where the nameserver lines point to the ip address of the DNS host or domain name server. Also take a look at your /etc/gateways file. Mine looks like: net default gateway 128.162.xx.xx metric 1 where the ip address points to the gateway here. BTW, the xx was really a 1 2 or 3 digit number less than 256 that was removed for security. 8^) Don't try to use those exact entries, but substitue the ip address of your DNS host and gateway. Jim Lynch, System Engineer, SGI/Cray Research, Inc. / ARS: K4GVO Federal Business Systems, Phone: (770) 631-2254, Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Suite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree City, GA 30269
.forward not working
Does anyone have any idea why .forward would not forward or pipe to a program (ie procmail). It seems like it is not even being looked at. Thanks -- Jason Killen Question Stupidity Ma ma's don't let your babies grow up to be Linux hackers Monolith : the new ANSI standard for humans PGP fingerprint = 64 71 48 14 31 AE C6 70 E4 4F 64 EB 3B AA 00 6B [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: .forward not working
I think it needs to be world-readable. I was playing with it last week and found that the smail log will show when a program is invoked. That helped me get from step n to n+1. On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Jason Killen wrote: Does anyone have any idea why .forward would not forward or pipe to a program (ie procmail). It seems like it is not even being looked at. Thanks -- Jason Killen Question Stupidity Ma ma's don't let your babies grow up to be Linux hackers Monolith : the new ANSI standard for humans PGP fingerprint = 64 71 48 14 31 AE C6 70 E4 4F 64 EB 3B AA 00 6B [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Wade - Greenbush Technologies Corporation http://www.greenbush.com/cds.html Linux CD's sent worldwide
xemacs and emacs
Can someone explain why the xemacs and emacs packages can't coexist on the same Debian system? (What would it take to make them coexist?)
intel ether express pro/10+ pci
Hi all, does anybody have any experience with the LAN card in the subject? do they work with linux? which driver (eepro?)? TIA -- |||| ||| Marco Frattola Microsoft is not the answer ||`..'|| |||... Piacenza, ItalyMicrosoft is the question ||| ||| |||''[EMAIL PROTECTED]No is the answer ||| ||| ||| www.enjoy.it/users/~mk/index.html Live Linux, live free!
timezone package: in Indiana, US
Well, it's the time of year for time zone questions. I have a machine in Indiana, US, which has a system clock set to UT. I use xntp to keep it in sync. I look forward to the summer when Illinois and Indiana are on the same time (CDT and EST respectively) because I don't have to remember to add an hour when I go to IU - not that it's that hard, but life is complicated enough. My linux boxes are all using Debian and the timezone package. Timezone allows me to set the zone to US/Eastern, but Indiana isn't really in US/Eastern since they don't use daylight savings time. After EST went to EDT over the weekend, times on the machine in Indiana are 1 hour ahead of the rest of the Hoosiers. I suppose I can fix this by setting TZ=EST5 in the start up scripts. Is there a best place to do this? Or a way to do it more cleanly with the timezone package? I suspect that machines in Arizona have similar problems. Mike -- Michael A. Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nuclear Physics Lab, University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign PGP public key available on request
Re: A Qt alternative for KDE?
From: Lars Hallberg Micro++ [EMAIL PROTECTED] What do You think of a Wrapper Class Libary that makes it easy to write code that runns on diferent widget sets? Don't forget OI (there was an interface builder based on it that was free-of-cost for linux, a while back, but I forget the name.) OI let you switch between an OpenLook and Motif lookfeel [in fact you could switch at runtime, which was kind of scary] though it was a fairly sophisticated C++ toolkit. Though originally commercial I thought I'd heard it had been freed; in any case, it's another source of ideas...
Re: .forward not working
Jason Killen writes: Does anyone have any idea why .forward would not forward or pipe to a program (ie procmail). It seems like it is not even being looked at. Ouh, I thougt it was a misconfiguration by me on my machine in the offices. Reading this it doesn't seem to be. :-( I came across the same problem. .forward is working fine as long as there are only some email addresses inside. It seems that Smail can't execute a program at this point. (maybe procmail can't be called as 'nobody') Seems I have to investigate my configuration on finlandia with the one on troi Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/
Re: xemacs and emacs
Steve Hsieh writes: Can someone explain why the xemacs and emacs packages can't coexist on the same Debian system? (What would it take to make them coexist?) I was thinking of this lately. I also was wondering whey they don't use update-alternatives - like the three vi clones do. Both provide similar functionality so imho they should use this mechanism. Regards Joey -- / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / http://www.debian.org/ http://home.pages.de/~joey/
Re: long-standing netscape problem fixed
On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, James D. Freels wrote: I have found a fix to a long-standing problem I have had with printing from Netscape on versions after 2.0. I discovered the web page http://members.ping.at/theofilu/netscape.html which explains the problem and gives a fix. Thanks to Theofilu Andreas for the fix. Naturally, it wasn't a Linux problem, but the fact that Netscape had not kept up with the latest Linux libraries and the source was not provided to recompile. The odd thing about this problem is that no one that I know experienced the same symptom (not printing correctly). Did you use the netscape installer packages from the contrib section? I believe it solves this problem for you. Syrus. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Syrus Nemat-Nasser [EMAIL PROTECTED]UCSD Physics Dept.
Re: A Qt alternative for KDE?
Mark Eichin wrote: From: Lars Hallberg Micro++ [EMAIL PROTECTED] What do You think of a Wrapper Class Libary that makes it easy to write code that runns on diferent widget sets? Don't forget OI (there was an interface builder based on it that was free-of-cost for linux, a while back, but I forget the name.) OI let you switch between an OpenLook and Motif lookfeel [in fact you could switch at runtime, which was kind of scary] though it was a fairly sophisticated C++ toolkit. Though originally commercial I thought I'd heard it had been freed; in any case, it's another source of ideas... Well, this is very old (Sep 1994), but here's the reply that I got from the OI people 2.5 years ago when I asked if there would be another free OI replease for Linux. Also, I'm sure it was binary only, no source. --- snip --- Hello Rick - You're correct, the version of OI currently available for Linux is 4.0 (ObjectBuilder 2.0). We don't have a definite timeframe for porting OI4.5/ObjectBuilder2.5 to Linux, outside factors are affecting this. A new libc is in the works, as well as a new g++ compiler and libX11, our release will be dependent on these. Note that g++2.5.8 cannot compile OI, so we can't put out an interim release. -kathy[EMAIL PROTECTED]+1 303-440-9991 800-933-5558 dial 2 for support --- snip --- -- ...RickM...
Re: No nfs, no boot
On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Steve Hsieh wrote: Now the obvious solution is to fix up the other machine, but the thing which worried me most was the fact that the attempt to nfs mount didn't timeout. Which means that my system is entirely dependent on the other system in order to boot. I am guessing that something is probably trying to access a file on the NFS mounted drive. You could try using the soft option when mounting it. From the nfs man page: soft If an NFS file operation has a major time- out then report an I/O error to the calling program. The default is to continue retry- ing NFS file operations indefinitely. Also from nfs(5): bg If the first NFS mount attempt times out, continue trying the mount in the back ground. The default is to not to back ground the mount on timeout but fail. This is almost necessary if two NFS servers are clients of each other. Pete -- Peter J. Templin, Jr. Client Services Analyst Computer Communication Services tel: (717) 524-1590 Bucknell University [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nis install problem please advise
I installed the nis, netbase, and netstd packages on the machines in my lab, and followed the nis.debian.howto in setting up the master and slave. The master seems to be doing well, but the slave cannot seem to find the start-stop daemon. Is there anything special I need to do in order to get the slave to recognize the daemon? Thanks in Advance, and please reply to this address, in addition to the list. -Mike
Re: Safer package installation
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: ... Ok, the alternative is that the script uses the information provided inside the package, which is precisely what we have now [...] With the exception that the package doesn't muck with the rest of the filesystem directly. It has to go through a script with some sanity checks. Actually you're assuming that package maintainers' scripts have bugs while the standard one doesn't. IMO what happens is that you introduce a single point of failure -- the standard script. ( One can argue both ways here, you see. Anyway, that's all a side note.) ... As you state, disk space is now pretty cheap. That's not an excuse to wantonly waste disk a la Microsoft, but symlinks aren't exactly huge. Which is even worse, in a sense -- they waste a whole disk block each, using only a few bytes in it. ... possibility of symlinks pointing to unmounted filesystems, Now *here* is a substantial objection. This *does* require careful attention. The ideal is for /usr to be mountable read-only (as off a CD), which is why we assumed we'd put the packages directory under usr. It's not the point. The point is, there's a 20 MB read-only /, and the rest is NFS-mounted (for example), and NFS server is down. Bummer. I mentioned /etc simpy because it was the one more packages use; there's also /bin, /sbin, /lib, /dev, /initrd... Packages that need to modify these should be clearly marked as requiring more attention than the others -- required packages in section base, perhaps? ;-) ... If you don't want extra security, you don't have to have it. No, I don't want extra security on a single-user box with a dialup network connection. I also want my Debian system to fit on 212 MB hd and run on a 486-66. (And a pot of gold would be nice, thanks.) ;-) ... Provided that us users learn Perl, etc., so we *can* debug them. (That same objection applies here too. You can't have it both ways.) You misunderstood: when a package screws up my system I file a bug report -- not a patch -- and start crying on the Usenet. I didn't mean that us users fix bugs and generate patches (not that this is really the case.) Anyway, that is actually what I meant when I said about trust -- if you want to go through the code, you should start with the source for the package you're installing. So it's Perl, awk, sed, shell of various flavours, C, C++, Elisp, Java... Machine codes (for eg. Netscape.) You have to stop somewhere. ... Note that, as Larry Niven pointed out, There is no cause so noble that it will not attract its share of kooks. The BLISS virus is an unfortunate case in point. If Debian becomes as popular as we all hope, then it will inevitably attract the type of losers who like to screw up other people's systems. RootKit is available for Linux, now. Linux' security is in its openness, as you well know (I think the bliss -uninfect_files_please (or whatever) got to Usenet before McAffee discovered bliss.) That and bugs in installation scripts are separate issues. ... Dselect/dpkg can be configured to avoid prompting if it's already root, or a command-line option can be set up. This is not a reason to ditch the idea of providing extra security to those that want it. Even if dpkg is running as root, it can still run the non-privileged scripts as a less-empowered user to minimize the damage that bugs in those scripts can cause. I agree, in theory. I just can't see that your method of doing that is feasible -- you've got to change the whole package management system, substantially change filesystem layout, change programs (like ls, file and others that will undoubtedly pop up); note that the last two are covered by standards -- FHS (?) and POSIX resp. As I pointed out, all these changes minimize the damage caused by bugs in installation scripts; they don't help with bugs in the packaged applications, viruses in packaged binaries and so on. You're proposing to invest a lot of time and effort into a rather minor stage in package development process. Of course, all of the above is IMO only. Also, IMO, we could try to implement a capability-type system where dpkg matches install-script's key against locks on each file the script tries to modify (stored in /var/lib/dpkg/info/package.list, possibly, or Contents.gz.) This would be quite inefficient, of course, but then lock-key capability systems usually are. -- Dimitri --- sig: By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer meet the definition of a telephone fax machine. By Sec.227(b)(1)(C), it is unlawful to send any unsolicited advertisement to such equipment. By Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned Section is punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss, or $500, whichever is greater, for each violation. (Solicited advertisements huh? and other such can be sent to emaziuk at curtin.edu.au)
RE: ip_alias.o module not included?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- It only takes about 5 min's. If you send me your hardware req's I'll build you a new kernel/module pkg. It will be a 2.0.29 kernel. On 06-Apr-97 Don Brady wrote: In the pre-compiled modules distributed with 1.2.8 of Debian, all of the ipv4 modules are missing. In particular I need ip_alias.o. I realize I can regenerate the kernal and modules but this seems like it may take me some time. Meanwhile, does any one know where I could find a precompiled copy? Thanks Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07-Apr-97 Time: 14:49:35 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0lB1gi+Ph+i3TgpAQFmgAP/VAOvzaTNs7EDVoPtAI1RDKFnbD/lmKSj kfgC4fS+9ta8eMt9gD8jUzRk/Jpg7LPMGTQmrOlL7Thq9oyMCkCEkCf/cOm/vMRG C2v9mVo5PLQtYWDxNMeDJSrSSgKlpjiDaRb9pY/FgvTovYB98PBtb/RiMWt0+EiN BeCKgF8bsWs= =zpcv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: code-names
Two questions: 1. What's good about GNU libc? 2. Whose libc is libc5? LIBC5 is GNU libc with substantial patches for Linux. LIBC6 is GNU libc with the Linux support merged back in to the main source thread. GNU calls these LIBC 1 and 2. We call it LIBC6 on Linux because our version numbers didn't follow the GNU ones. All Linux distributions will go to LIBC6. There are no hold-outs that I know of. Bruce
Re: xemacs and emacs
I have both working fine on my system which is based on the unstable branch. Didn't have to do anything special. -- Jean Pierre On Mon, 7 Apr 1997, Steve Hsieh wrote: Can someone explain why the xemacs and emacs packages can't coexist on the same Debian system? (What would it take to make them coexist?)
Re: .forward not working
Does anyone have any idea why .forward would not forward or pipe to a program (ie procmail). It seems like it is not even being looked at. I came across the same problem. .forward is working fine as long as there are only some email addresses inside. It seems that Smail can't execute a program Perhaps you have a space after the pipe? I think smail doesn't ignore those spaces (though sendmail does). -- Pete Harlan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: xscreensaver and Motif...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I have looked in the doc's and find no way to display plain old jpg's as the screensaver instead of the animations. I would like to see an option to display the contents of an image directory, randomly maybe? I tried to run the demo mode to get this dialog box you spoke of but it just started and exited without displaying anything. I have the app-defaults file set to use xv to display some images and all others shut off. What kind of extra functionality would Motif bring to a screensaver? Not all of us know what Motif does for a program. I run Motif compiled programs next to my others and don't see any difference in them. Except appearence but I assume that is just the programmers preference since I've seen good and bad appearences from all kinds of builds. So if I know what kinds of improvements Motif will bring I'll know if I would like to see it or not. Otherwise, only the programmers and the few that know the differences in the lib's will be the only ones to answer your question. On 06-Apr-97 Larry 'Daffy' Daffner wrote: Hi all, As the maintainer of xscreensaver, I have a few questions for users and potential users. When xscreensaver is compiled with Motif, it has a few additional capabilities: o It can be set to do locking, either through explicit direction by xscreensaver-command, or automatically after a certain time period (which can be different than the saver timeout). o It can run in 'demo mode', via xscreensaver-command, which displays a dialog box containing all configured saver programs and allows the user to select a mode and run it. I have not yet been able to get this functionality to work with Lesstif, but thanks to CheapBytes, I now have the real thing and can compile with Motif support, so that the above functionality works. So, the question: Would anyone like to see packages compiled with Motif for the extra functionality? If so, would you like to see the Motif package replace or supplement the non-Motif version? Or does no one actually use xscreensaver, and I should just go stuff off and leave y'all alone? :) -Larry -- Larry Daffner| Linux: Unleash the workstation in your PC! [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://web2.airmail.net/vizzie/ One macine can do the work of fifty ordinary men. No machine can do the work of one extraordinary man. --Elbert Hubbard Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07-Apr-97 Time: 15:20:25 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0lI+Qi+Ph+i3TgpAQGSJgP/YDxrJik77+UrOpvGtZFkaevZ8CYIzMQo f/6IGyf+dqFNBBY+U+FncE9OHUxFU9IRilCtKLk/l2jynsZ8nWlJPi5aWZUAVAaF P3JTqm9AEmaIQkuOrlG0fDN51ptvZSgGUhqjO0Gbm6DENaa2v+q8yBrlcATSZTXF xDSp0W+9EL8= =7Zp1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: moving to bo/modutils
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I had the same problem. I recompiled the kernel without module support, and installed the modutils without a problem. If you comment out the module entries in the /etc/modules file the boot errors will stop. Just hope you don't need any of them. I haven't recompiled module support back in since I put everything I need in the kernel, but I assume that now that the modutils is installed I could and all would be fine. If your X colors look like crap you might have the wrong server or maybe a bad config. I had to make many mod's manually to the XF86Config file to get my X looking good. I'm 99% sure that the kernel has nothing to do with the appearence of X. On 06-Apr-97 Ralph Winslow wrote: Whilst upgrading to bo/Linux 2.0.29 I had a dependancy message that said that modules is superceded by modutils and said OK. Later had message(s) that kernel (current, I assume) is built with module support, so can't remove modules. Later still, during build of 2.0.29, I caught glimpses of messages that related to modules, but, since they flew by, can't give further detail now. The new kernel boots ok, but early in the process shows many errors (from depmod, I guess) that lots of modules stuff is missing. My system had been hosed in a variety of ways before the upgrade (won't run Netscape, X colors look like crap, etc.) and seems to be working as well now as it had prior to upgrade, so, should I worry about the above, or just blow /etc/modules away and get on with it? TIA Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07-Apr-97 Time: 15:28:28 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0lK3Qi+Ph+i3TgpAQEffgQAuz2SDYlGyRyJ9rpV0EpY2oRkjDQqcCdr mD4Xgz4sky7EbWuvozcMFNkwOPj8e9ewilIFz5XEw+VJaVAxu6osOvDg0XZzAD+r ZQEmeX8auK+yFXoa8Wgwpy7+H1MXYmBI8F8Wh6RxtE3RPlnNo4yhdN02K5BDKDv+ sJIPkXoGGNE= =0tWf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Kernel recompile affects X display left-shift?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I've noticed the same thing. It only happens when I use X in bpp 16 mode. If I use the standard bpp 8 mode the screen does not shift. I know there are commands to use in the config files to adjust this, but not off hand. I just leave it adjusted for X and forget it. Is it possible that the other kernel you're talking about boots a different XF86Config file in standard mode while your normal kernel uses your config files? On 07-Apr-97 Nathan O. Siemers wrote: A. M. Varon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Nathan O. Siemers wrote: Is there anything in a kernel recompile that would affect how XFree performs? I have an AST ascentia laptop, 800x600 screen. The default debian kernel gives an X display that is shifted about 30 pixels to the right. Some of my early recompiles (boot floppies) spontaneously fixed this problem. Now I cannot reproduce the recompile conditions Not that i can think of. This could be the reasons why it happens: 1. You move the left or right knob of the display screen. (It happens!) Don't think so. :) 2. You run xf86config command, and you changed the settings. The thing is, I can pop in a different kernel boot disk and it changes the horizontal shift of the screen, without me touching any X settings. xvidtune (and a change to XF86Config) *has* allowed me to shift the offending screen of the offending kernels, but I am still perplexed as to how this can happen. Perhaps it is a bug I should ignore? If it's no.2, then run xvidtune in an xterm window. That will correct the shifting of the screen temporarily. If you want it more permanent, then contact me for more details. nathan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Andre M. Varon Lasaltech, Incorported Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)433-3520 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web page: http://www.lasaltech.com/andre.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- Nathan Siemers - Department of Bioinformatics Bristol-Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute K14-06, P.O. Box 4000, Princeton, NJ 08543-4000; (609) 252-6568 Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07-Apr-97 Time: 15:42:35 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0lOKwi+Ph+i3TgpAQEdtwP/ZPJLLTiegyPXjl6+hlN+FXcp0X7cVbve r5nKWEmep3YG1MX6s7FHNxxy2+L6KezSdJcJGACVn/nGGWkPw6AgkPO/Pj142+wQ BAHvNtYqfxVcb2vQbtcJy2Qs+o2XZASUm6opJ2rr0efDQcsWp+JPN6Wfrv6Pr1/h n/OeL9jCASE= =DsHq -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: Xwindows manager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- You have to have a window-manager installed for it to be used. I believe twm is included in the distribution since I never wanted it but have it. I use afterstep wich is based on fvwm. It's pretty good. The file to edit are in the /etc/X11 directory. The window-managers file should have the window managers currently installed (via debian) listed in it. The first on on the list will be used. Just put the one you want to use at the top. The window managers come with the example system.*rc file that the authors send. Debian doesn't make one. If you d/l the menu pkg it will automatically add installed programs to your pop-up menus in X. On 06-Apr-97 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed Xfree and when I start the only thing I get is one xterm and a very small menu where I can chose to quit or to run a color show program. Now is this normal ? Dont deabian create a default look like redhat dose? (fvwm2) What windows manger should I use? I am not loking for a special look more the one that most people is developing stuff for. If I use fvwm95 can I make my own title button to max the screen only horisontal as the default debian fvwm2 dose ? Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07-Apr-97 Time: 16:00:59 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0lShwi+Ph+i3TgpAQFbUgQAgBzMUR6CrchhFv15Ya2NGz84CeodaL80 TEf9vmVkhJIXNRlS/SC+x+KdJtK6iY7OQpjKLMTPebSTtJH7mj0Dj28EzOP6zSQT 5Gg9g1G7GowAXZaDb/7ZhzTQuqB7l5rtp+OrKO1dgFKJJTKiCxgu6AqqWe9mc9ik z+ftWaE6lJ8= =oU5Z -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Help! I messed up!
On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Jim Smith wrote: [... much deleted ...] Ya can't be too paranoid!! [ ... ] Even paranoids have real enemies - Attributed to Dr. Henry Kissinger
Re: Help! I messed up!
Michael J. McCann wrote: On Sun, 6 Apr 1997, Jim Smith wrote: [... much deleted ...] Ya can't be too paranoid!! [ ... ] Even paranoids have real enemies - Attributed to Dr. Henry Kissinger Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean somebody isn't out to get you. -- ...RickM...
Re: Safer package installation
On 7 Apr 1997, Alair Pereira do Lago wrote: Raymond A. Ingles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Installed packages go to a specific place in the file hierarchy, e.g. /usr/packages/package-name/. There's /usr/packages/name/lib/, /usr/packages/name/bin/, etc. A script then makes symlinks from, say, /usr/lib/file-name to /usr/packages/package-name/lib/file-name. What about performance? I don't think a system full of symlinks would be so fast. There would be performance hit, technically, but it should be genuinely negligible. It will only appear as the file is opened, as the system resolves the link. I'm willing to bet that the shift from a.out to ELF would cause more noticeable performance changes. Sincerely, Ray Ingles (810)377-7735 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Modern deductive method: 1) Devise hypothesis. 2) Apply for grant. 3) Perform experiments. 4) Revise hypothesis. 5) Backdate revised hypothesis. 6) Publish.
Re: xdm?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- If xdm is starting it should throw you into a graphic login. If you remain at the command prompt type login then something is wrong with xdm. Check the /var/log xdm-errors file. To disable xdm just change the name of the file in /etc/rc2.d from S99xdm to K99xdm or any other name that doesn't have an S# the S# tells init to start it. The K# tells init to kill it. This is assuming you start in init 2. If you use any other init just go into the appropriate directory. Init 3 - /etc/rc3.d etc... On 06-Apr-97 Dennis J Perkins wrote: Chris wrote: Hello, When ever I boot up linux xdm starts before i log in. After login i try to run xwindows but it tells me that it is already running. Can someone tell me which file loads the xdm and how do i disable it? I have tried the SVGA and VGA servers but i get the same results. I just installed them (at sepearate times) and neither of them have ever worked. The error says i can't make a connection. Thank you Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Try editing /etc/X11/config to say no-start-xdm. I don't know if this is the approved method, but it works. -- Dennis Have a good one. - -- Rick Jones E-Mail: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 07-Apr-97 Time: 17:03:51 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBM0lhNwi+Ph+i3TgpAQGWRwQAnP8lsV969cIoRNraQQq8Mh3kuLZbqQNa TYkOKn9rzuHLXf6WT0nXlrROoPupiZy8V8iY4nkL3tIENGxbZ/AaHHBbru/PvANE cTomJTtbBXfTXsOYcwgMhiv479nu8MnQ2oJw/iH2hRWGm6Eo1zgNjBMz+NZxRq3T PffoxkvlwMo= =5v8A -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Safer package installation
Dima == Dima [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As you state, disk space is now pretty cheap. That's not an excuse to wantonly waste disk a la Microsoft, but symlinks aren't exactly huge. Dima Which is even worse, in a sense -- they waste a whole disk Dima block each, using only a few bytes in it. It was my understanding that the ext2fs compacts things so that several small files/symlinks actually are placed in one block. Am I wrong? Karl M. Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.inetarena.com/~karlheg Portland, OR USA Debian GNU 1.2 Linux 2.0.29t You tell me and we'll both know.
