Re: Support for Debian GNU/Linux

1998-03-01 Thread Rich Sahlender
 
 In the 1998 Linux Journal Buyer's guide, there is a matrix comparing the
 various distributions.  Under Debian, it says that optional paid
 commercial support is available, but gives no details.
 

Have a look at the How do I get support? section in
http://www.debian.org/intro/about.html

And the link from there to a List of Consultants at
http://www.debian.org/consultants.html

Cheers,
Rich


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Re: Support for Debian GNU/Linux

1998-03-01 Thread Rich Sahlender
 
 A commercial company will have a proposal on my desk this weekend
 to coordinate the worldwide network of Debian consultants in a single
 support organization.
 

Great news! I've been waiting for the RH Support Partner program to
get moving for months... and waiting... and waiting... and waiting...

Cheers,
Rich


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fetchmail doesn't work for me either

1998-03-01 Thread Alan Eugene Davis
I upgraded fetchmail, smail, and some other packages at once, and immediately
begin having trouble with fetchmail.  The problem is exactly as discussed by 
A. D. Y. Chang.   I'm at a loss, with all the discussion of smail on this list.
Fetchpop works ok, and with fetchpop -ar, I get a running list of the messages
being scarfed off the server, which is nice.

Still, I too would like to find out what's wrong w/ fetchmail.

Alan Davis
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SGML-Tools

1998-03-01 Thread shaul
Am I using it in a wrong manner or is there a bug:

$ sgml2latex -a example.sgml 
SGML-Tools driver version 0.99.7

Usage:
  driver.pl format [options] infile
General options:
  --papersize={a4,letter} -s {a4,letter}
  --language={en,english,english,de,deutsch,german,nl,nederlands,dutch,fr,franç
ais,french} -l {en,english,english,de,deutsch,german,nl,nederlands,dutch,fr,fra
nçais,french}
  --charset={latin,ascii} -c {latin,ascii}
  --style=string -S string
  --tabsize=number -t number
  --verbose -v
  --debug -d

Format: latex2e
  Note that this output format requires LaTeX 2e.

  --output={dvi,tex,ps} -o {dvi,tex,ps}
  --bibtex -b
  --quick -q

Error: Unknown option -a

$  man sgml2latex

SGML2LATEX(1)   SGML2LATEX(1)

NAME
   sgml2latex  -  create plain text output from a SGML source
   file

SYNOPSIS
   sgml2latex  [-2e]  [-aCdglps]  [-style  s  ]   [-t   n   ]
]
   file[.sgml]

DESCRIPTION
   sgml2latex  converts  a  SGML source file to LaTeX output,
   using the sgmls(1) parser, and the sgmlsasp(1) translator.
   Using  the  LaTeX output, and the latex(1) text formatter,
   you can then create  DVI  output,  and  PostScript  output
   using  the  dvips(1)  converter.  Output  will  appear  in
   file.tex for LaTeX output, file.dvi  for  DVI  output,  or
   file.ps  for  PostScript output, where file is the name of
   the SGML source file.

OPTIONS
   -2eUses LaTeX2e instead of LaTeX 2.09

   -a Uses DIN A4 page layout, default US letter

   -C Single chapter

   -d Creates DVI output instead of LaTeX

   -l Allows use of latin1 (ISO-8859-1) characters in the
  SGML source file, default ASCII only

   -g Uses german.sty

   -p Creates PostScript output instead of LaTeX

   -s Saves all LaTeX temporary files

 ...


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Re: Installing with LS-120 drive

1998-03-01 Thread shaul
 I have persuaded a co-worker to install Debian on his machine.
 However, he has a LS-120 drive (essentially a 120MB capacity
 floppy) and no normal floppy drive.  I wrote a resc1440.bin
 (from hamm/main/disks-i386/current) for him since rawrite2
 will not work (apparently) with these disk drives.  The problem
 is when it comes to install the kernel and modules on the HDD,
 the system cannot mount the floppy drive.  I am trying to install
 Debian on /dev/hdb (an IDE drive), and /dev/hda has a NT installation.

 Any ideas how to overcome this?

Perhaps by copying resc1440.bin from this LS drive to the HD, toghether with 
loadlin; And running loadlin to boot into Linux ?


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Re: minicom...

1998-03-01 Thread shaul
 how do i do to configurate the minicom for conecting  to interntet wiht a
 pulse telephone line??? 

As far as I know, you can't configure minicom to connect you to the Internet.
Minicom can only be used to test your connection to your ISP, and to see his 
gretting.

To accomodate the pulse dialing method, use 
ATDP your-ISP-phone-number
instead of the more ususal ATD or ATDT.
(The P and T in the ATD? string stands for Pulse and Tone, respectivly.) 


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Kernel Customization.

1998-03-01 Thread shaul
I tried to customize the installation kernel, but I was not completely 
succesful.

1) Debian FAQ says that dpkg will   

*  install the custom kernel in /boot/vmlinuz_VVV-Custom.N, and set
   up appropriate symbolic links to the most recent kernel version.

   my /boot directory only contains vmlinuz_VVV.
2) /usr/doc/kernel-source-2.0.29/debian.README.gz says that 

A note on LILO: the kernel-image install-scripts arrange to have
/vmlinuz and /vmlinuz.old point to the latest kernel image and the
next most recent one, respectively. You may choose to have LILO take
advantage of this by putting image = /vmlinuz and image = /vmlinuz.old
lines in your lilo.conf (please read documentation on LILO for details).

   I don't have /vmlinuz.old. Only /vmlinuz.
3) I don't understand how to deal with modules. I thought that it is 
sufficient
   to tell xconfig that I want something as a module. Is it true ? When should 
I run modconf ?
4) During the init phase, I have some new messages that are scrolling too 
fast.How can I read them ?

Thank you. 


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Re: dump screen to file

1998-03-01 Thread shaul
 How can I dumb the console screen to a file via a bash shell command (or
 program)?

Perhaps by using script(1) ?



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Re: Lee: Re: smail Solution for Dynamic IP's

1998-03-01 Thread David Stern
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 22:19:37 EST, Lee Bradshaw wrote:
 [..]
 local username had to match the remote username.  Check out my web page
 if you want to see all the effort I've put into HTML so far :^)
 http://www.mindspring.com/~lee.bradshaw/

And what nice dogs you have. G.  

 If I didn't mention this before, I'm not cc'ing you because ipa.net
 rejects my from  lines as spam.

I don't understand why a correct header would be rejected.  I'd like to 
see some details for the basis to this claim, because I use the same 
address style as you and Daniel.  Please tell.

I've read the relevant RFC (and more), but some of the terminology is 
prohibitive to my understanding:

-
RFC822(STD11) 3.4.6:

o   Parentheses (( and )) are used  to  indicate  com-
ments.

 o   Angle brackets ( and )  are  generally  used  to
indicate  the  presence of a one machine-usable refer-
ence (e.g., delimiting mailboxes), possibly  including
source-routing to the machine.
--

What does that bit about one machine-usable reference (e.g., 
delimiting mailboxes) .. source-routing .. mean?

Most importantly are both Joe User [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(Joe 
User) in keeping with standards?

Is there a more relevant RFC I should be reading?
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Re: Motif and lesstif coexistance?

1998-03-01 Thread aqy6633
 Can RedHat motif (I used alien to convert a .rpm to .deb) co-exist with
 lesstif?  xscreensaver installation complains that it needs lesstif.

You can try...

But my experience says no way. Download the source package and recompile
xsceeensaver yourself (with real Motif).

Alex Y.

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Re: fetchmail doesn't work for me either

1998-03-01 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Eugene Davis) writes:

 I upgraded fetchmail, smail, and some other packages at once, and immediately
 begin having trouble with fetchmail.  The problem is exactly as discussed by 
 A. D. Y. Chang.   I'm at a loss, with all the discussion of smail on this 
 list.

Well, what do your .fetchmailrc, fetchmail --version and fetchmail
--verbose say?  Does adding smtphost localhost to .fetchmailrc fix
it?

A.D.Y. Cheng has a much older version of fetchmail than the latest, so
you could have a different problem.  If you upgraded smail to the
latest version, try downgrading it again (to the version in 1.3.1) and
see if it gets fixed.  The latest smail has problems.

What errors do you get if you feed the following to telnet electra2
smtp?  (Replace electra2 with whatever hostname prints if I'm
guessing wrong from your headers.)

HELO electra2
MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DATA
Subject: test

.
QUIT

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Re: Lee: Re: smail Solution for Dynamic IP's

1998-03-01 Thread Carey Evans
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes:

 On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 22:19:37 EST, Lee Bradshaw wrote:

[snip]

  If I didn't mention this before, I'm not cc'ing you because ipa.net
  rejects my from  lines as spam.
 
 I don't understand why a correct header would be rejected.  I'd like to 
 see some details for the basis to this claim, because I use the same 
 address style as you and Daniel.  Please tell.

What about the envelope sender?  sendmail writes this as:

From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Mar  1 16:12:31

or something similar at the top of the message.  qmail puts:

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

as RFC821 and RFC822 (4.3.1, 4.4.3) suggest.

It appears that the Debian list server renames this to
X-Envelope-Sender: before passing the message on, which shows that
Lee Bradshaw's envelope sender is (or has been)
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and yours (David Stern's) is
[EMAIL PROTECTED].  At least localhost will succeed in some DNS
lookups.  (I had my envelope sender set wrong until recently too.
It's difficult to notice.)  And it *is* forged by spammers.

The Return-Path is where bounced email should go, BTW, which is partly
why it gets forged.  Have either of you received any bounces lately?

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MX list for aaa.bbb.ccc points back to rrr.sss.ttt

1998-03-01 Thread Fernando Tadeu C Brandt
I get the following 

554 MX list aaa.bbb.ccc points back to rrr.sss.ttt
554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Local configuration error

when I try to send a message to aaa.bbb.ccc. 
How can I fix the configuration at aaa.bbb.ccc?

Fernando


Re: upgrading to current smail

1998-03-01 Thread mwb
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 27, 1998 at 07:12:51AM -0600, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote:
  
  I've had to install the bo smail, and leave it htere the last few months.

 Really, smail 3.2.0.100 is broken at the moment. There a couple of things
 you can try, please see the bug reports on the debian web page.
  
  Is there a doc somewhere on debugging after the upgrade?
 
 The bug reports are the best source of information at the moment. Another
 one are the man pages. You have to recreate your config files.

I've read the bug reports, and I haven't figured out how to get it to work
with fetchmail  pine.  The only thing I've gotton out of the bug reports
is that its broken (and probably because smail is now following the RFC).
I'll stick with bo (for smail) until someone can summarize how to get
hamm to work for someone with ppp.

Mark.
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sendmail and pine

1998-03-01 Thread Russell Cook
I'm struggling to get sendmail and pine working properly together.  I have
a dial-up ISP account [EMAIL PROTECTED]  My linux account is
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  I'm trying to get my mail to deliver locally as
coming from rcook, but to go out externally as from [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I
have been following the postings on this topic, but am still having
difficulty.  I have tried using FEATURE(genericstable)dnl, as suggested.
I'm using that right now.  But it still isn't working.  Any other
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Russ
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Re: make-kpkg

1998-03-01 Thread Ralph Winslow
When the estimable Manoj Srivastava wrote, I replied:
 
 Hi,
 
 Could you show us the output of
  % ls -als /
  % ls -asCF /boot

It's attached.  This is after I re-executed with --bzimage kernel_image.
 
 It is hard to tell from the information given what is going on
  ;-) (BTW, the out-of-the-box default should be --bzImage).
 
 manoj
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# ls -als /
total 692
   1 drwxr-xr-x  23 root root 1024 Feb 24 17:46 .
   1 drwxr-xr-x  23 root root 1024 Feb 24 17:46 ..
   1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Jan 24 15:59 C:
   1 drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 1024 Feb 22 19:02 backup
   2 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 2048 Feb 21 10:27 bin
   1 drwxrwsr-x   2 root disk 1024 Feb 28 10:01 boot
   1 drwxrwsr-x   2 root cdrom1024 Sep 14  1995 cdrom
  18 drwxr-xr-x   3 root root17408 Feb 24 23:00 dev
   5 drwxr-xr-x  58 root root 5120 Feb 28 22:17 etc
   1 drwxrwsr-x   2 root floppy   1024 Sep 13  1995 floppy
   1 drwxrwsr-x   7 root staff1024 Jan 25 10:44 home
   1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Jul 17  1996 initrd
   1 drwxr-xr-x   4 root root 1024 Jan 21 18:11 lib
  12 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root12288 Jan 20 09:11 lost+found
   1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Sep 13  1995 mnt
   1 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Jan 24 15:49 mnt2
   0 dr-xr-xr-x   6 root root0 Feb 24 17:59 proc
   2 drwxr-xr-x  28 root root 2048 Feb 28 09:40 root
   2 drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 2048 Feb 23 18:21 sbin
   1 drwxrwxrwt   3 root root 1024 Feb 28 22:59 tmp
   1 drwxr-xr-x  16 root root 1024 Jan 21 20:02 usr
   1 drwxr-xr-x  13 root root 1024 Jan 21 16:05 var
 635 -rwxr-xr-x   2 root root   645517 Jan 20 09:18 vmlinuz
   0 lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   19 Jan 20 09:18 vmlinuz.old - 
boot/vmlinuz-2.0.30
   1 drwx--  11 root root 1024 Jan 24 15:28 webmaster
# ls -asCF /boot
total 1711
   1 ./1 boot.0300 1 mbr.b
   1 ../   1 boot.0302 1 os2_d.b
 134 System.map-2.0.30 5 boot.b0 psdatabase@
 141 System.map-2.0.32 1 chain.b 110 psdatabase-2.0.32
   1 any_b.b   7 config-2.0.32   635 vmlinuz-2.0.30*
   1 any_d.b   6 map 664 vmlinuz-2.0.32


Vacation reply

1998-03-01 Thread ryansteagall

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Re: Kernel Customization.

1998-03-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

You seem to only have one kernel on your machine. That is the
 reason that you have judt /vmlinuz and no /vmlinuz.old. When you
 install the next kernel version, you shall get the second link in /.

As to the names in /boot, the names are /boot/vmlinuz-version 
 If you need more than one instance of a kernel image for the same
 kernel version, you should get kernel-package and read
 /usr/dockernel-package/Flavours.gz. Umm, I am unsure if this exists
 in a Bo version of kernel-package.

manoj

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Re: NAT solution for Linux?

1998-03-01 Thread David S. Jackson
On Sat, 28 Feb 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:

 Is there a kernel module and/or software that provides Network Address
 Translation (something similar to what Cisco's PIX product does)?

You might have a look at this web page:  www.linas.org/linux/load.html

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Bounced mail from debian-user list (?)

1998-03-01 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

I just got a whole mess of bounced mail messages from concentric.net
related to the Debian list.  In fact, all of the messages I sent to the
list were apparently delivered since I got copies of my message from the
list.  I assumed my messages got through fine since I got responses from
the list.  Has anyone else experiences this?  How can I correct this?

Here is an excerpt from one of the bounced e-mails:

Received: from localhost ([207.155.189.44]) by localhost
 with esmtp id m0y8xoc-000iu6C
(Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Sat, 28 Feb 1998 19:45:18 -0600
(CST)
Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost
 with esmtp (ident blunier using rfc1413) id m0y8xfj-000itEC
(Debian Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #2); Sat, 28 Feb 1998 19:36:07 -0600
(CST)
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from pop3.concentric.net
by localhost (fetchmail-4.3.6 POP3)
for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (single-drop); Sat, 28 Feb 1998 
19:36:07 CST
Received: from debian.novare.net (debian.novare.net [205.229.104.5])
by beasley.concentric.net (8.8.8/(97/11/17 5.13))
id MAA22779; Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:15:29 -0500 (EST)
[1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network]

The rest of the bounced messages have similar contents.  Should I e-mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (the trouble address at the bottom of every posted
message) about this?

Thanks,
-Ossama

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Max swap on Linux

1998-03-01 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

I am going to install Debian on a system that may require alot of swap
space.  According to the Debian installation notes, Linux only uses up to
128MB of swap space.  I've been also told that Linux can handle more.
Which is correct?

Thanks.
-Ossama

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Re: SGML-Tools

1998-03-01 Thread David S. Jackson
On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Am I using it in a wrong manner or is there a bug:
 
 $ sgml2latex -a example.sgml 
 SGML-Tools driver version 0.99.7

Hmmm.  It works for me using this syntax.  Here are some considerations:

No filenames have changed accidentally?  (No ~'s or spaces or case
changes, or sgm instead of sgml?

Are you running the command from the same directory where the sgml file
is?

Have you tried it with the linuxdoc pkg (earlier than the sgml-tools pkg)?
Or if you upgraded, perhaps you have a version mismatch (I'm still using
Linuxdoc, so I can't be surethis would be a problem).

Is this your example or the standard example created long ago by Matt
Welsh?  (If it's yours, is it a valid SGML file?  Does nsgmls parse it?)

Did you verify your LaTeX2e installation?  (Is it all there?  Any relevant
release notes?)

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Re: Signify and Pine

1998-03-01 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sat, 28 Feb 1998, Brian White wrote:

  My signify signature's, when used with pine sometimes die completely, and
  I am completely frustrated :) And to top it all off, I only sometimes get:
  
  [1]+  Broken pipe signify --fifo=$HOME/.signature
  
  I suppose I should mention that I use the fifo option...
  Has anyone had something similar happen to them? Or would I be best to use
  a cron job and be done with it?
 
 I've had it die occasionally, too, and I use netscape3 as a mailer.  I
 wrote Signify, but I have no idea why this sometimes happens.  It would
 be pretty easy to trap the SIGPIPE and just ignore it.  Maybe I'll do
 that.

Okay, its good to hear that I am not just going senile...


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Re: stm (was Console resolution (Was Viewing bootup message))

1998-03-01 Thread Michael Beattie
On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, Benoit Goudreault-Emond wrote:

 [snip]
  Hmm, I used to have that running with my tseng et4000, but when I went to
  my new s3 virge, It died completely... anyway, 80x34 is fine... 80x25 is
  just too large... I hate DOS so much... :)
   
 
 Died how?  Don't forget that you absolutely HAVE to load fonts if you use
 any S3 based card in text mode at high refresh rates (you probably knew that,
 but one never knows).
 

Mainly the display gets screwed around...  I was loading fonts, although I
didn'nt know I _had_ to. Are there any particular fonts that have to be
used? I cant remember what I was using.


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Kernel compilation

1998-03-01 Thread Charles
I'm back again,
I have recompiled my kernel, but now it wont boot from the new
bootdisk that 'make zdisk' created.  I followed the HOWTO to the letter,
and here I am stuck.  It will still boot off of my old boot disk, but
not properly, it says there are no modules for that kernel.  As I had
kernel 2.0.29 and now have 2.0.33, this is not a large suprise.  It will
start to boot off of the new boot disk, but comes to a crashing halt and
the last thing displayed onscreen is 
VFS: mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
then it stops, never to restart.  I have asked people in irc, but the
best advice i got was to reformat my disk and try again, which did not
work.  I have used 2 disks, both of which have been formatted and
scandisk has been run on, both disks have no bad sectors.  
Do i need to use the rawwrite program on the disks in order for them to
be usable??  I am completely at a loss and standstill until i can get
this problem solved, so any advice, other than what I received through
irc, would be appreciated.
Charles
I also get a line that says 
ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe
I am wondering about what this line is trying to tell me, any insights?
thanks again all


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Re: PPP Accounting

1998-03-01 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 28, 1998 at 10:12:27PM +1300, Michael Beattie wrote:

 Michael your clock is one month out!


hph.. again


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/dev entry for cdu31a device

1998-03-01 Thread Martin Jackson
Hello all,

What is the proper /dev entry for a Sony proprietary cdu31a device?  I don't
see a cdu31a device in dev and don't know how to access it otherwise.
Thanks in advance.

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Re: trouble with the boot-block..

1998-03-01 Thread Bill Leach
 All this makes sense, of course.  What I don't understand is
 how something got written to the MBR and why my floppy drive
 is ignored now.  To clear my SCSI drives 1 and 3, I'll have to
 do a low-level format.

From an earlier message, I gathered that you DID tell the installation
program to install lilo at least during one installation attempt.  If
you did that then lilo installed the lilo boot loader code in the MBR. 
When lilo does this, it creates some files in /boot/ directory including
a copy of the original boot block.  Lilo csn then later be told to
'remove itself' and replace the original boot code.  However, in your
case, you re-attempted initial installation which 'wipes out' the files
saved by lilo.  Thus, there is no longer any way for lilo to restore the
original boot code since it really does not exist.  So even if the
installation code authors examined the drive to look for a previous
installation of lilo, there is no way that they could 'uninstall' it
anyway.

In addition, many people have multiple installation of Linux on the same
machine (I usually have two or three myself).  It would be a _real_
disaster for me if lilo removed the lilo boot code when I did a second
or third linux installation.

I am at a complete loss as to what linux could possibly have done to
make your floppy be ignored.  As far as I know, recognizing and booting
from your floppy is an activity that takes place long before ANY linux
code is loaded and executed (you do have the CMOS set for A: then C: and
not the otherway around, yes?)

Actual low-level formatting of scsi drives is a pretty unusual activity.
Drives vary between just plain ignoring the command, immediately
returning an operation complete response, running a bad block scan, to
actually DOING a low level format.  Many scsi drives actually can not be
low level formated without special (manufacture specific) software.


As I think I mentioned to Jean Pierre, my knowledge of
DOS could be stuffed into a thimble.  At any rate, DOS
is gone, and /dev/fd0 is useless.

(I just knew there was something I liked about you!)


Last night I catenated /target/etc/lilo.conf to stdout
and saw something like what you've got below.  But it
didn't do much good because I'm not familiar with the
file.  Also, didn't find anything in the boot that came
with v1.3.

Can you tell me what to edit to what to get rid of lilo
from the master boot rec?

Short of the DOS FDISK/mbr I don't know of anything (simple) that you
can do to get rid of lilo at this point.

You can edit /etc/lilo.conf so that it looks something like this:
boot = /dev/sda
prompt
timeout = 50
compact
delay = 20
install = /boot/boot.b
map = /boot/map
vga = normal
image = /vmlinuz
root = /dev/sda3
label = Linux
read-only
other=/dev/sda1
table = /dev/sda
label = DOS

Substitute your drive designation for 'boot = /dev/sda' (but I think
that is correct for your system.
Substitute your drive/partition designation for 'root = /dev/sda3' of
your (attempted) linux installation.
Substitute your drive/partition disignation for 'other=dev/sda1' for the
location of your DOS partition (if you have one).
I think but am not positive that the 'table = /dev/sda' has to point to
the drive that contains the linux root filesystem (regardless of where
the dos partition is located).

After editing that file (/etc/lilo.conf) then run lilo itself:
lilo -t -r /target

The '-t' tells lilo to just tell you what it wants to do but not to
change anything.  A '-v' tells lilo to be somewhat verbose.
The '-r /target' tells lilo to the directory '/target' as the 'root' for
its' operations (otherwise lilo would want to modify the ram filesystem
which would be a bit useless).

This should give you an output like:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/wrl# lilo -q -t
Linux   *
DOS  

If you use the '-v' option then it might look something like this:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/wrl# lilo -v -q
LILO version 20, Copyright 1992-1997 Werner Almesberger

Reading boot sector from /dev/hda
Global settings:
  Delay before booting: 2.0 seconds
  Command-line timeout: 5.0 seconds
  Always enter boot prompt
  Serial line access is disabled
  No message for boot prompt
  No default boot command line
Images:
  Linux   *
No password
Boot command-line won't be locked
No single-key activation
VGA mode: 9 (0x0009)
Kernel is loaded high, at 0x0010
No initial RAM disk
No fallback
Options: ro root=304
  DOS  
No password
Boot command-line won't be locked
No single-key activation
No fallback

(Your lilo version is probably different than mine so the message may
well not be an exact match.

If what you get does look pretty much like the above (and in particular
lilo does not report any errors) then type:
lilo -r /target
Lilo should then correctly install itself but remember the 

Re: .deb installation

1998-03-01 Thread Bill Leach
This really should be:

dpkg -i pathname/filename1.deb ... pathname/filenameX.deb
(or cd to pathname first).

Ben Pfaff wrote:
 
How can i install the both packages in Linux with the other hard disk
partition mounted or how can install the packages from floppies?
 
 dpkg -i FILENAME1.deb FILENAME2.deb
 
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Re: minicom...

1998-03-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Feb 28, 1998 at 09:24:21AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
^^

huh?

 As far as I know, you can't configure minicom to connect you to the Internet.
 Minicom can only be used to test your connection to your ISP, and to see his 
 gretting.

Of course it can. Never heard of a shell account?

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Re: MX list for aaa.bbb.ccc points back to rrr.sss.ttt

1998-03-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 12:30:48AM -0300, Fernando Tadeu C Brandt wrote:
 I get the following 
 
 554 MX list aaa.bbb.ccc points back to rrr.sss.ttt
 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Local configuration error
 
 when I try to send a message to aaa.bbb.ccc. 
 How can I fix the configuration at aaa.bbb.ccc?

Well, is aaa.bbb.ccc on the same machine as rrr.sss.ttt?
And if so, are they intended to be treated if so? If so,
then you should add aaa.bbb.ccc to the host list in /etc/smail/config;
if not, then you need to set up all the routers, transports etc
in /etc/smail, so there's no quick fix.

You need to tell us a bit more about aaa.bbb.ccc's relationship
to rrr.sss.ttt.

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Re: Kernel compilation

1998-03-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

I assume you have set the root device for the kernel image on
 the floppy correctly? (man rdev). If not, the kernl maybe mounting
 the wrong partition aas teh root device and failing ;-( (though I'm
 not sure it would fail in the manner you describe; I think it is a
 possibility).

As to floppies, I would think that formatting the floppy with
 Superformat, and then using dd to transfer the image should work
 fine. 

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Re: Lee: Re: smail Solution for Dynamic IP's

1998-03-01 Thread David Stern
On 01 Mar 1998 16:23:02 +1300, Carey Evans wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes:
 
  On Thu, 26 Feb 1998 22:19:37 EST, Lee Bradshaw wrote:
 
 [snip]
 
   If I didn't mention this before, I'm not cc'ing you because ipa.net
   rejects my from  lines as spam.
  
  I don't understand why a correct header would be rejected.  I'd like to 
  see some details for the basis to this claim, because I use the same 
  address style as you and Daniel.  Please tell.
 
 What about the envelope sender?  sendmail writes this as:
 
 From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Mar  1 16:12:31

There's some strong negative remarks about the use of the From (without 
the colon) field in the IETF Mailing Headers Draft:

---
3.4 Sender and recipient indication

(1) This header field should From (not   not standardized
never appear in e-mail being followed by a   for use in e-mail
sent, and should thus not appear colon)
in this memo. It is however
included, since people often ask
about it.

This header field is used in the
so-called Unix mailbox format,
also known as Berkely mailbox
format or the MBOX format. This
is a format for storing a set of
messages in a file. A line
beginning with From  is used to
separate successive messages in
such files.

This header field will thus
appear when you use a text editor
to look at a file in the Unix
mailbox format. Some mailers also
use this format when printing
messages on paper.

The information in this header
field should NOT be used to find
an address to which replies to a
message are to be sent.

(2) Used in Usenet News mail FromRFC 976: 2.4 for
transport, to indicate the path  or  use in Usenet News
through which an article has goneFrom
when transferred to a new host.  (not followed
 by a colon)
Sometimes called From_ header
field.


By contrast, the Sender: line is standard (though somewhat vague):


The person or agent submitting   Sender: RFC 822: 4.4.2,
the message to the network, if   RFC 1123: 5.2.15-
other than shown by the From:16, 5.3.7.
header field. Should be
authenticated,
according to RFC 822, but what
kind of authentication is not
clear. Some implementations
expect that the e-mail address
used in this field can be used to
reach the sender, others do not.
See also X-Sender.


 or something similar at the top of the message.  qmail puts:
 
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 as RFC821 and RFC822 (4.3.1, 4.4.3) suggest.
 
 It appears that the Debian list server renames this to
 X-Envelope-Sender: before passing the message on, which shows that
 Lee Bradshaw's envelope sender is (or has been)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], and yours (David Stern's) is
 [EMAIL PROTECTED].  At least localhost will succeed in some DNS
 lookups.  (I had my envelope sender set wrong until recently too.
 It's difficult to notice.)  And it *is* forged by spammers.

Some DNS's confirming localhost (127.0.0.1) is probably why I'm able to 
post here.  Seems wrong, but at the moment I'm glad.

 The Return-Path is where bounced email should go, BTW, which is partly
 why it gets forged.  Have either of you received any bounces lately?

I got bounced mailing today:


-
 '[EMAIL PROTECTED]SIZE=2824' sender address target 'localhost' is not 
a valid e-mail domain.

-

In case anyone is picking up and missed my original post, I'll reask my 
questions.

I've read the relevant RFC (and more), but some of the terminology is 
prohibitive to my understanding:

-
RFC822(STD11) 3.4.6:

o   Parentheses (( and )) are used  to  indicate  com-
ments.

 o   Angle brackets ( and )  are  generally  used  to
indicate  the  presence of a one machine-usable refer-
ence (e.g., delimiting mailboxes), possibly  including
source-routing to the machine.
--

What does that bit about one machine-usable reference (e.g., 
delimiting mailboxes) .. source-routing .. mean?

Most importantly are both Joe User [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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User) in keeping with standards?


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Re: Max swap on Linux

1998-03-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 12:59:10AM -0500, Ossama Othman wrote:
 I am going to install Debian on a system that may require alot of swap
 space.  According to the Debian installation notes, Linux only uses up to
 128MB of swap space.  I've been also told that Linux can handle more.
 Which is correct?

My understanding is that it's 128mb per swap partition, and that you
can have several (up to 16?) of those.


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Re: /dev entry for cdu31a device

1998-03-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 09:05:57AM +0100, Paul Seelig wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Jackson) writes:
 
  What is the proper /dev entry for a Sony proprietary cdu31a device?  I don't
  see a cdu31a device in dev and don't know how to access it otherwise.
  Thanks in advance.
  
 This should be /dev/sonycd if i'm not severely mistaken.  At least
 this used to work with my own cdu33a CD-ROM drive.

The kernel's Documentation/devices.txt says /dev/sonycd is correct
for cdu31a and cdu33a devices.


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Re: Win95 Dialin Client Config

1998-03-01 Thread Erez Doron


Ronn Pimentel wrote:

 First you want to make sure the the WINS server is running.

[major snip]What is a WINS server ?is it anything to do with samba ?

Regards
Erez

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Xircom CE10-BC PCMCIA Ethernetadapter

1998-03-01 Thread Rene Bagia




Hallo,
i am a new Debian Linux user, 
so i have a little problem to install my pcmcia card service correctly, so i 
can
use my XIRCOM CE10 Pcmcia 
Ethernet Adapter.
I try to install with dselect 
the pcmcia card service and the pcmcia modules for the 2.0.29 Kernel but i cant 
use it.
I am verry happy for every 
help.
So i hope i can use my cord basicly 
or not?

best Reguards
Rene


/etc/passwd comment field

1998-03-01 Thread Norbert Veber
I was reading through the passwd(5) man page, and I noticed something really
neat, you can set the priority at which the users processes will run, and
their ulimit.  I was able to get the pri= field to work, and I also want to
limit users to a max of 40 processes, but I can't figure out how.  What is
the format of the ulimit= field?  I tried ulimit=-u40 and ulimit=u40, and
with a space between u and 40, but it doesn't work.. (I got the u= from man
ulimit..)

PS. I use a hamm system.


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Re: NAT solution for Linux?

1998-03-01 Thread Joel Klecker
At 16:41 -0600 1998-02-28, Nathan E Norman wrote:
Is there a kernel module and/or software that provides Network Address
Translation (something similar to what Cisco's PIX product does)?

There is an implementation of NAT for Linux at
http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/HyperNews/get/linux-ip-nat.html, I don't
know if it can do what you want or not.

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Re: make-kpkg

1998-03-01 Thread Ralph Winslow
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 The problem is that someone has installed a /vmlinuz. Being
  just a program, the debian kernel image package postinst assumes that
  the sysadmin knows better, and does nothing. If you want the new
  kernel,
  # cd /
  # mv vmlinuz vmlinuz.save
  # ln -s boot/vmlinuz-2.0.32 vmlinuz

I get it now, Thank you, Manoj, for your work on this package and for
your assistance with my problem with it.  May I suggest that make-kpkg
print a message when it sees that a kernel image exists in / and that
it will therefore not complete the install?  I don't recall putting
vmlinuz in root on Jan 20, I've only used make install or make-kpkg
in the past IIRC, but I could well be wrong about this and could
easily imagine doing a cp /usr/src/linux/vmlinuz /vmlinuz if I
didn't get the results I expected from one of those processes.  In 
general, if the package decides to do (or not do) something it
normally would (or wouldn't) do, an error message would be a 
great help.
 
 and Re run lilo or whatever you use to boot the machine.
  (remove vmlinuz.save when you feel satisfied). From this time on, the
  upgrades should work better.
 
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SMAIL WARNING (was: Re: fetchmail doesn't work for me either)

1998-03-01 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 11:20:32AM +1000, Alan Eugene Davis wrote:
 I upgraded fetchmail, smail, and some other packages at once, and immediately
 begin having trouble with fetchmail.  The problem is exactly as discussed by 
 A. D. Y. Chang.   I'm at a loss, with all the discussion of smail on this 
 list.
 Fetchpop works ok, and with fetchpop -ar, I get a running list of the messages
 being scarfed off the server, which is nice.
 
 Still, I too would like to find out what's wrong w/ fetchmail.

Nothing. The problem is smail.

You *have* to reconfigure smail with smailconfig --force, and even then you
could run into problems. The simple way is to downgrade to the version in
bo.

Please folks: Don't upgrade to the smail in hamm unless you know what you
are doing or want to participate in testing.

Thank you,
Marcus

PS: Maybe for you is the right way (1) internet host and then smarthost.
both in smailconfig.

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Re: Max swap on Linux

1998-03-01 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 I am going to install Debian on a system that may require alot of swap
 space.  According to the Debian installation notes, Linux only uses up to
 128MB of swap space.  I've been also told that Linux can handle more.
 Which is correct?

Linux cannot handle more than 128M of swap in one partition.
But you can have several 128M swap partitions.

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Thanks :)

1998-03-01 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

Thanks for all the responses about the bounced mail and swap spaces in
Linux! :-)

On an unrelated note, is there any reason why my respond to all
recipients in Pine would get a user called 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in the Cc list?  I only get
this when responding to mail from this list.  The actual recipients don't
seem to have any funky addresses or characters after them.

Thanks again.
-Ossama

P.S.:  I noticed alot of you use IIRC.  Since I only found out about the
Jargon file last week, I don't know what this means, and it doesn't seem
to be in the jargon file.  What does it mean?  Last week I unintentionally
offended a lot of people on the list by my lack of knowledge of one
particular piece of jargon, and I don't want that to happen again.  :-) 

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Re: Thanks :)

1998-03-01 Thread Alex Yukhimets
 P.S.:  I noticed alot of you use IIRC.  Since I only found out about the

IIRC=If I Remember Correctly

Alex Y.

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kernel-source-2.0.33

1998-03-01 Thread Henry Hollenberg

I found the kernel source package for 2.0.33 on the debian web page search
engine but can't seem to find it with dselect.  Anybody know how?



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Re: gimp jpegs

1998-03-01 Thread Charles Shearer
On Sat, Feb 28, 1998 at 11:45:55AM -0800, Ben Gertzfield wrote:
 Charles Shearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
snip
 You need libjpeg-dev. Good luck!
 

That did the trick, thanks

Charles

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DMA Bus Mastering Reset on WDC AC34300L

1998-03-01 Thread Cleto Pescia
Hello,

I've just built a custom 2.0.33 kernel using the make-kpkg for a new ASUS
P/I-P55T2P4-based P150 Linux box with 64MB RAM (bo installed) and I get
the following error message:

hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
hda: disabled DMA
ide0: reset: success

Is it really safe to leave the Triton II Bus Mastering option on, as the 
make config help reports, or should I give up on it?
While on the subject: Is it safe to use hdparm 3.1-2 from bo with the
version of kernel I'm setting up?

TIA for any help!

Cleto



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Spread sheet compatible with LOTUS?

1998-03-01 Thread Bob Hilliard
 Are any of the spread sheet programs available in Debian able to
read LOTUS 123 files?  If not, is there a conversion utility that will
convert LOTUS file to the format used by one of the Debian spread
sheets? 

 If no such thing exists in Debian, how about elsewhere in Linux?

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Re: NAT solution for Linux?

1998-03-01 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

You wrote:

 Is there a kernel module and/or software that provides Network Address
 Translation (something similar to what Cisco's PIX product does)?

I don´t know Cisco´s PIX, but there is domething called NAT at 

http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/HyperNews/get/linux-ip-nat.html


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Re: Xircom CE10-BC PCMCIA Ethernetadapter

1998-03-01 Thread joost witteveen
In an attempt to save the world from disaster, Rene Bagia wrote:

 Hallo,
 i am a new Debian Linux user, so i have a little problem 
 to install my pcmcia card service correctly, so i can
 use my XIRCOM CE10 Pcmcia Ethernet Adapter.
 I try to install with dselect the pcmcia card service and the
 pcmcia modules for the 2.0.29 Kernel but i cant use it.
 I am verry happy for every help.

Your best bet is to send the XIRCOM card back to the manufacturer,
with a polite notice that, due to the non-discolsure-agrement they
force everyone who obtains technical information on their ethernet
cards to sign, there is no Linux driver available for XIRCOM cards,
and you are thus unable to use it.

Or, in other words: XIRCOM forces people to sign NDA's. Thus a driver
will never be released in source code form, as that whould be disclosing
the information. As linux is GPL, any part of linux essentially also must
have source code available. This is why you cannot use XIRCOM cards.

I believe there are binary-only modules available, but I advice you not
to use those --  you will probably not be able to use them with
newer versions of the linux kernel, and nobody can fix bugs in them.

So, really the best thing to do is to replace the XIRCOM card.


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Archiving mails with smail

1998-03-01 Thread dg

Hi all!

I am currently building an intranet server for the company where I'm
working. I use smail (from bo) and the users are going to work with
different mail clients (Netscape or Outlook Express) over POP3 (qpopper).
The server will have an dialout connection to our ISP (ppp) and a multidrop
mailbox feed (fetchmail-POP3).

So now I want to build an automated archive of every mail that is sent or
received over our mail server. This archive should be a textfile which is
accesable as a mail folder from within PINE or something else. I want to
build ONE archive file per day and this file should be burned on a CD (once
in a month or so). 

Has anyone a solution, eventually where a copy of every mail is routed to a
specific user ???

Thx in advance!

Bye

Daniel

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We dance whene'er we're able
We do routines and chorus scenesWe're knights of the Round Table
With footwork impeccableOur shows are formidable
We dine well here in CamelotBut many times
We eat ham and jam and Spam a lot.  We're given rhymes
That are quite unsingable
In war we're tough and able,We're opera mad in Camelot
Quite indefatigable We sing from the diaphragm a lot.
Between our quests
We sequin vests
And impersonate Clark Gable
It's a busy life in Camelot.
I have to push the pram a lot.
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Re: Bounced mail from debian-user list (?)

1998-03-01 Thread Bill Leach
Thanks for your posting!!

I also just now received a bunch of 'returned mail messages' for
messages that I have posted to the debian-users list and have already
been sent to my mail account from debian-users.

In my case the specific postings for which the 'returned' messages were
sent were posted directly to an ISP using netscape mail.  I have not
made any changes to netscape for months so I suspect that there has been
some change made at concentric.net and your posting furthers that
suspicion.

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-bill
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Re: kernel-source-2.0.33

1998-03-01 Thread Bill Leach
For the 'bo' distribution (1.3.1r6) look in:
ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/bo-updates/

For hamm look in:
ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-all/devel/
or:
ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/devel/
or for that matter:
ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-m68k/devel/
(the latter two are symbolic links to the copy in 'binary-all'.


Henry Hollenberg wrote:
 
 I found the kernel source package for 2.0.33 on the debian web page search
 engine but can't seem to find it with dselect.  Anybody know how?
 
 Henry Hollenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Output of Anacron job `cron.daily' (fwd)

1998-03-01 Thread Christian Hudon
Since I've upgraded to anacron 2.0, I'm getting this  email every day:

Stopped /usr/sbin/boa (pid 196).
Starting boa...
File /usr/sbin/suidexec registered but not installed
/usr/lib/emacs/20.2/i386-debian-linux-gnu/movemail PERMISSION MISMATCH: was 
root.mail 2755 changed to root.mail u=rwx,g=rxs,o=rx

I know how the fix for the first two lines... but what do the last two mean 
exactly? And how do I make them go away?

  Christian




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Hamm Installation Disks

1998-03-01 Thread David R Baker
Hi Debian folks,

Upon seeing that a set of installation files appeared under hamm I
got curious.

Using the single file version of the base disks and the 14400 versions
of the other disks I started an install from DOS.

Some observations:

1.  I was unable to get the installation program to see any files on
my DOS partition or linux partitions using the method where
the install program does the mount.

2.  I was able to mount a linux partition and give the full path name
of the directory, though I had to do so twice.

3.  The time between steps seems much longer that previous version and
there is little sign of activity.  However, I did wait it out and
it did work.

4.  The installtion did say I could choose not to immediately install
a regular user (this was in some bug list).

5.  I hit choose access method to see if it looked any different.
Then, not having ppp set up yet, tried to quit with ^C.  This did
not work.  (A kill -9 from another VT worked.)

6.  Other than these minor (for me) points, I thought it went quite
well!  

Congradulations and thanks


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Re: Lee: Re: smail Solution for Dynamic IP's

1998-03-01 Thread Lee Bradshaw
David Stern wrote:

 I don't understand why a correct header would be rejected.  I'd like to 
 see some details for the basis to this claim, because I use the same 
 address style as you and Daniel.  Please tell.


This is from /var/spool/smail/msglog/...  I broke it into multiple lines

  Xdefer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] reason: (ERR151) transport smtp: 451
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Domain must resolve.
  It is a criminal offense to send unsolicited e-mail to,from,or
  through this server.

The mail seems to be rejected based on the first line:

  from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

not:

  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Bradshaw)

If I set the visible name to mindspring.com, then the from looks like:

  from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Mindspring inserts a return path:

  Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

so my returned mail will go to another user.

I don't know how to get anything besides my user name onto the from 
line.

-- 
Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred)
Next Level Communications[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: SMTP transaction error

1998-03-01 Thread Martin Bialasinski
A.D.Y. Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 reading message 1 (2561 bytes) .fetchmail: SMTP connect to (null) failed
 fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from pop.hkstar.com

Add the line smtphost localhost to your .fetchmailrc and also make sure
your MTA (smail, sendmail, whatever) accepts mail for loaclhost. Using
smail, you add more_hostnames=localhost to /etc/smail/config to do this.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: Thanks :)

1998-03-01 Thread Martin Bialasinski
Ossama Othman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On an unrelated note, is there any reason why my respond to all
 recipients in Pine would get a user called 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] in the Cc list?  I only get
 this when responding to mail from this list.  The actual recipients don't
 seem to have any funky addresses or characters after them.

I had this as well (I now use gnus) and mailed the listmaster about
it. There is one header pine chokes on, but I don't remember which
one, sorry.

IIRC, you will see this header real quick if you tell pine to show all
headers. Then you could use procmail to remove this header, I believe.

Ciao,
Martin


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Re: Win95 Dialin Client Config

1998-03-01 Thread Glynn Clements

Erez Doron wrote:

  First you want to make sure the the WINS server is running.
 
 [major snip]What is a WINS server ?is it anything to do with samba ?

WINS = Windows Internet Name Service

Basically it's a NetBIOS name resolution mechanism, i.e. it translates 
NetBIOS names (the host part of \\host\share) into network addresses.

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Pine configuration changed

1998-03-01 Thread Bob Nielsen
In the latest (hamm) pine 3.96L-2,  I am getting asked (today, March 1) 
the question:

To save disk space, delete old SENT mail folder sent-mail-jan-1998 ?

everytime I execute pine.  Formerly it was only asked once at the
beginning of each month (maybe it will go away tomorrow!).

I checked both ~/.pinerc and /etc/pine.conf and neither has anything
specified for pruned-folders.  Is there a way to stop this?

Bob

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SCSI changes Interrupts?

1998-03-01 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
I just got my Adaptec 152x SCSI adapter to work However, two weird
things happened in the process that I wonder if anyone could shed some
light on

Firstly, before I got it to work, cat /proc/interrupts reported my PS2
mouse as being on IRQ 8,  SoundScape as being on IRQ 10, and had no
listing for sound. After I got it to work by setting the jumpers on
the  SCSI adapter to IRQ 9, and giving the kernel the appropriate
parameters at boot time, cat /proc/interrupts reports the PS2 mouse on
IRQ 12, sound on IRQ 5, and does not list  SoundScape any more.
(The SoundScape support in the kernel is configured to use IRQ 10 for
MIDI, and IRQ 5 for Audio... (DSP?)).
Any ideas on the discrepancy?

Also, before it started working,  I tried setting the IRQ jumpers on 11.
(Not listed as in use by /proc/interrupts at the time), however, at boot
time, it failed to initalize that IRQ, and suggested that it might be
wrong..  So, after that I tried IRQ 9, (also not listed as in use),
which worked.
Any ideas on why it wouldn't work on an interrupt not listed as in use?
I suspect my /proc/interrupts is abit crazy, because even now that it
doesn't show the SoundScape on IRQ 10 any more, it still initalizes fine
on that IRQ at boot time, and I can still play mp3s fine. :).

Thanks in advance for any thoughts on the matter,
Timothy.

PS: I use aha152x=0x140,11,7,1 at boot time now. Can anyone fill me in
on what the '7' and '1' are about?  The SCSI howto used them, but I
couldn't find anything on their significance.


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Re: Lee: Re: smail Solution for Dynamic IP's

1998-03-01 Thread David Stern
On Sun, 01 Mar 1998 14:34:05 EST, wrote:
 David Stern wrote:
 
  I don't understand why a correct header would be rejected.  I'd like to 
  see some details for the basis to this claim, because I use the same 
  address style as you and Daniel.  Please tell.
 
 
 This is from /var/spool/smail/msglog/...  I broke it into multiple lines
 
 Xdefer: [EMAIL PROTECTED] reason: (ERR151) transport smtp: 451
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Domain must resolve.
 It is a criminal offense to send unsolicited e-mail to,from,or
 through this server.
 
 The mail seems to be rejected based on the first line:
 
 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 not:
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Bradshaw)

---IETF Mailing Draft---
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(1) This header field should From (not   not standardized
never appear in e-mail being followed by a   for use in e-mail
sent, and should thus not appear colon)
in this memo. It is however
included, since people often ask
about it.

not standardized   Used to mark header fields defined only in RFC
for use in e-mail  1036 for use in Usenet News. These header
fields have no standard meaning when appearing
in e-mail, some of them may even be used in
different ways by different software. When
appearing in e-mail, they should be handled
with caution. Note that RFC 1036, although
generally used as a de-facto standard for
Usenet News, is not an official IETF standard
or even on the IETF standards track.
--

This may or may not be justification for refusal, I can't say for sure. 
 My recommendation would be to avoid using potentially problematic 
fields, of which From (without the colon) seems to definately qualify.

 If I set the visible name to mindspring.com, then the from looks like:
 
 from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Mindspring inserts a return path:
 
 Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 so my returned mail will go to another user.

Regarding lee.bradswhaw going to bradshaw, I thought I read that a dot 
in this field was not standard and that it may be rewritten if 
necessary, however I cannot find that now.  Again, my impression is 
that this qualifies as a potentially problematic field entry, and it 
would be best to avoid the dot.

I'm not an authority in this matter, I'm just calling it like I see it.
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Help installing NT and Linux

1998-03-01 Thread Travis Cole

I just got a new drive and I want to put a few more Operating Systems on
it.  Even thought NT is a pain to use I would like to have it around just
to run a few apps.  But I am having some problems getting it to install.

Here is the situation:

I have two 4.3 gig UltraATA Quantum Fireballs.  The primary master has only
Linux partitions on it (containing Debian 2.0)  I would like to install NT 
on the first partition of the Primary slave drive.

Here is where the problems come in.  With that setup NT would not install.
It complained because there was no NT compatible partition on the primary
master.  I am assuming it wanted to install thinks like the boot.ini and
ntldr on the first partition of the primary master.  Since that partition
is Linux, NT can't touch it.

So what I did was make the drive which NT needs to go on, the primary
master.  I installed NT and it works fine, if that drive is the master.  I
need the Linux drive to be the master because I don't want to reinstall
Linux or let NT win this battle :)

Is there a way for me to boot NT using lilo?  Will my little drive swap
trick work with some more playing?

I have tired booting NT with Lilo and it doesn't want to work.
Here is the NT part of my lilo.conf:

other=/dev/hdb1
label=winnt
table=/dev/hdb

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.  Also please reply directly to me,
as it can be easy to miss replies in all the list traffic.

--Travis

It's backup day today so I'm pissed off. Being the BOFH, however, does
have it's advantages. I reassign null to be the tape device - it's so much
more economical on my time as I don't have to keep getting up to change
tapes every 5 minutes. And it speeds up backups too, so it can't be all
bad can it? Of course not. 

-The Bastard Operator From Hell.


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quicken??

1998-03-01 Thread Dave Mallery
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

hi

now that i have netscape 4.04 running, the last hurdle seems to be
Quicken.

all i need is something to keep a check register and print checks.
(i know, write it yourself!)...

could someone point me in the right direction? then i can convert
my other machine to linux too!

thanx



- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- -=+=- 

Dave Mallery, K5EN
po box 520; ramah nm  87321
505-783-4784
running Debian GNU/Linux.Free at last
winNT: from the people who brought us EDLIN.

public key on keyservers..keyid: E06D8D8D
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X11 and Matrox Mystique 220

1998-03-01 Thread RUSSELL COOK
Hello All,
I just got a new video card, the Matrox Mystique 220.  I have been 
following this list for a while, and have observed that the Mystique is 
supported now.  However, after configuring for my card, and trying startx, my 
screen goes black, and the computer locks up - I can't ctl-alt F2 to another 
virtual terminal, and I can't ctl-alt-bksp to exit X11.  Reading the README.mga 
in the docs, it looks like I may have been mistaken about my card.
My card uses the MGA-1164SG graphics chip, with internal RAMDAC.  The 
docs say the svga server supports the MGA-1064SG chip.  I'm using xserver-svga 
3.3-3 under hamm.  Is my card supported and I just need to recheck my 
configuration file?  Or do I need a different server?  Or am I just out of luck?
I can run under xserver-vga16, but this is very unsatisfying.  Please 
help.  Thanks,
Russ
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POP3 Client..

1998-03-01 Thread Timothy M. Hospedales
Does anyone know of a good POP3 client for Linux/X?
Something like Eudora or Pegasus in Windoze...?

I just want to beable to check multiple mail boxes easily. (Its a pain
in netscape mail).
I'de rather not have to setup fetchmail and related apps.

Thanks,
Timothy


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Re: Installing with LS-120 drive

1998-03-01 Thread C.J.LAWSON
Hi,
   This is a really interesting problem... Sorry I cannot be of any help.
It however is of interest to me as, just this afternoon, I was thinking of
the possibility of putting a minimal installation (90Mb) on a 120Mb disk
drive and running linux off that. Concievably there will be a second
floppy disk drive on the machine which could then be mounted as the
utility floppy drive The (non-x) possibilites apear to be endless with
such. 
  I wonder what your thoughts about this are ...

Regards

Jonathan

On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have persuaded a co-worker to install Debian on his machine.
  However, he has a LS-120 drive (essentially a 120MB capacity
  floppy) and no normal floppy drive.  I wrote a resc1440.bin
  (from hamm/main/disks-i386/current) for him since rawrite2
  will not work (apparently) with these disk drives.  The problem
  is when it comes to install the kernel and modules on the HDD,
  the system cannot mount the floppy drive.  I am trying to install
  Debian on /dev/hdb (an IDE drive), and /dev/hda has a NT installation.
 
  Any ideas how to overcome this?
 
 Perhaps by copying resc1440.bin from this LS drive to the HD, toghether with 
 loadlin; And running loadlin to boot into Linux ?
 
 
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Re: Installing with LS-120 drive

1998-03-01 Thread ccp152
Hi,
   This is a really interesting problem... Sorry I cannot be of any help.
It however is of interest to me as, just this afternoon, I was thinking of
the possibility of putting a minimal installation (90Mb) on a 120Mb disk
drive and running linux off that. Concievably there will be a second
floppy disk drive on the machine which could then be mounted as the
utility floppy drive The (non-x) possibilites apear to be endless with
such.
  I wonder what your thoughts about this are ...

Regards

Jonathan
On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I have persuaded a co-worker to install Debian on his machine.
  However, he has a LS-120 drive (essentially a 120MB capacity
  floppy) and no normal floppy drive.  I wrote a resc1440.bin
  (from hamm/main/disks-i386/current) for him since rawrite2
  will not work (apparently) with these disk drives.  The problem
  is when it comes to install the kernel and modules on the HDD,
  the system cannot mount the floppy drive.  I am trying to install
  Debian on /dev/hdb (an IDE drive), and /dev/hda has a NT installation.
 
  Any ideas how to overcome this?

 
 Perhaps by copying resc1440.bin from this LS drive to the HD, toghether with
 loadlin; And running loadlin to boot into Linux ?
 


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Re: Help installing NT and Linux

1998-03-01 Thread aqy6633
 So what I did was make the drive which NT needs to go on, the primary
 master.  I installed NT and it works fine, if that drive is the master.  I
 need the Linux drive to be the master because I don't want to reinstall
 Linux or let NT win this battle :)

I don't know about loosing battles but why can't you keep Linux on the
slave drive? You wouldn't have to reinstall it. Just edit /etc/fstab and
change /dev/hda on /dev/hdb. You can install Lilo on the root partition
(with just one option- linux) and follow the instructions in
NT+Linux HOWTO how to make NT boot loader to boot linux. You may even make
it the default OS to boot. I have a similar setup with no problems.

Alex Y.
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Re: POP3 Client..

1998-03-01 Thread Adam Klein
On Sun, Mar 01, 1998 at 11:35:04PM +0400, Timothy M. Hospedales wrote:
 Does anyone know of a good POP3 client for Linux/X?
 Something like Eudora or Pegasus in Windoze...?
 
 I just want to beable to check multiple mail boxes easily. (Its a pain
 in netscape mail).
 I'de rather not have to setup fetchmail and related apps.

Mutt supports POP3.  I just use fetchmail.  It's pretty easy.

Adam Klein


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Re: X11 and Matrox Mystique 220

1998-03-01 Thread Florian Attenberger
RUSSELL COOK wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 I just got a new video card, the Matrox Mystique 220.  I have been 
 following this list for a while, and have observed that the Mystique is 
 supported now.  However, after configuring for my card, and trying startx, my 
 screen goes black, and the computer locks up - I can't ctl-alt F2 to another 
 virtual terminal, and I can't ctl-alt-bksp to exit X11.  Reading the 
 README.mga in the docs, it looks like I may have been mistaken about my card.
 My card uses the MGA-1164SG graphics chip, with internal RAMDAC.  The 
 docs say the svga server supports the MGA-1064SG chip.  I'm using 
 xserver-svga 3.3-3 under hamm.  Is my card supported and I just need to 
 recheck my configuration file?  Or do I need a different server?  Or am I 
 just out of luck?
 I can run under xserver-vga16, but this is very unsatisfying.  Please 
 help.  Thanks,
 Russ
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Hi,

Look at www.suse.de or www.suse.com.
They provide free x-servers and an updated xf86config.
The matrox-server is yet beta, but it works without problems on my
millennium II.

cu

florian attenberger


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Re: kernel-source-2.0.33

1998-03-01 Thread Henry Hollenberg

Well I thought this was itor am I mistaken, I just didn't understand
why dselect couldn't track it down:

http://cgi.debian.org/www-master/debian.org/Packages/unstable/devel/kernel-source-2.0.33.html

Package: kernel-source-2.0.33 2.0.33-3



  Linux kernel source.

This package provides the source code for the Linux kernel, as well as the
scripts that maintain the symbolic link /usr/src/linux).
This also contains everything in the package kernel-headers-2.0.33, and
thus if you install kernel-source-2.0.33 you do not also
need to install kernel-headers-2.0.33. 

You may configure the kernel to your setup by typing make config and
following instructions, but you could get ncursesX.X-dev
and tk4X-dev and try make menuconfig for a jazzier, and easier to use
interface. Also, on intel platforms, you may wish to get
bin86 (if you wish to compile the kernel sources, that is.) 

Other packages related to kernel-source-2.0.33:

= required 
 = recommended 
  =
suggested 


   binutils 
   The GNU assembler, linker and binary utilities. 
   libc5-dbg 
   The Linux C library version 5 (debug files). 
  or libc6-dev 
The GNU C library version 2 (development files). 
   gcc 
   The GNU C compiler. 
   ncurses3.4-dev 
   Video terminal manipulation - Developer's libraries and docs. 
   tk4.2-dev 
   The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v4.2 - Development Package. 
  or tk8.0-dev 
The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Development
Package. 
  or tkstep4.2-dev 
The NEXTSTEP(tm)-like version of the Tk toolkit -
Development. 
  or tkstep8.0-dev 
The NEXTSTEP(tm)-like version of the Tk toolkit -
Development. 

  Download it! (6527 kb)
Source Code: [dsc] [orig.tar.gz] [diff.gz] 

Herbert Xu is responsible for this Debian package 



Henry Hollenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Cleto Pescia wrote:

 Hello Henry,
 
 There is no source package for 2.0.33 because, as far as I understand, the
 maintainer is too busy.
 But you can always build your own custom source package using make-kpkg.
 I've just done it on my new system, and it works like a charm!
 Let me know if you need further help.
 
 Cleto
 
 On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Henry Hollenberg wrote:
 
  
  I found the kernel source package for 2.0.33 on the debian web page search
  engine but can't seem to find it with dselect.  Anybody know how?
  
  
  
  Henry Hollenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  
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Re: make-kpkg

1998-03-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

The problem is that someone has installed a /vmlinuz. Being
 just a program, the debian kernel image package postinst assumes that
 the sysadmin knows better, and does nothing. If you want the new
 kernel, 
 # cd /
 # mv vmlinuz vmlinuz.save
 # ln -s boot/vmlinuz-2.0.32 vmlinuz

and Re run lilo or whatever you use to boot the machine.
 (remove vmlinuz.save when you feel satisfied). From this time on, the
 upgrades should work better.

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