Re: smail 3.2
Juanjo Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hola a todos/as: Veamos si llega mi primer correo a la lista con mutt. Bueno lo que quiero comentaros es que smail se empeña en mandar el correo cada 20 minutos, pero lo que yo quiero es que lo encole hasta que hasta que haga runq, para lo cual he cambiado el valor de la variable FLAGS del /etc/init.d/smail, que estaba como -bd -q10m por -bd -q1w, pero no he conseguido nada, sigue haciéndolo cada 20 minutos, lo cual no me cuadraba antes ni ahora tampoco. ¿Cómo puedo solucionar esto? # crontab -u mail -r Hmmm... interesante... ¿que quiere decir ``cuadrar''? pensaba que solo aquí se utilizaba con el sentido ``gustar'', ``agradar'' Marcelo
Quitar xdm del arranque
He instalado Debian 2.1 y todo bien. Ejecuté xdm para probar y desde entonces el sistema me arranca en modo gráfico. Quiero arrancar en modo texto y pasar a la X cuando lo necesite nada más. ¿Cómo quito el xdm del arranque? He visto el /etc/profile y ahí no está, los rc.?? los tengo iguales que otra instalación que arranca en modo texto. Una ayuda por favor. Gracias por vuestra atención. -- Ubaldo Fernández Covelo|| || ||\ || || || \\ // || || ||\\|| || || \\ Castellón (España) || || \|| || //\\ user
Re: Quitar xdm del arranque
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 10:43:50AM +, Ubaldo Fernández Covelo wrote: He instalado Debian 2.1 y todo bien. Ejecuté xdm para probar y desde entonces el sistema me arranca en modo gráfico. Quiero arrancar en modo texto y pasar a la X cuando lo necesite nada más. ¿Cómo quito el xdm del arranque? He visto el /etc/profile y ahí no está, los rc.?? los tengo iguales que otra instalación que arranca en modo texto. Una ayuda por favor. En Debian 2.1, si instalas xdm arranca siempre con éste. Si no lo quieres, tienes dos opciones: a) Eliminar el paquete con dpkg --remove o dpkg --purge. b) Borrar el enlace S99xdm del directorio /etc/rc2.d (en Debian, el nivel de arranque suele ser el 2). De este modo, arrancará normalmente en modo texto. Si quieres que arranque con xdm, al arrancar escribe linux 3 cuando aparezca LILO boot: Un saludo, -- Francisco Callejo Giménez Bornos, Cádiz, España [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://usuarios.bitmailer.com/fcallejo
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Fw: primer mensaje HELLLLPPPPPPP
- Original Message - From: Alfredo Goñi To: Francisco Callejo Sent: Sábado, 03 de Abril de 1999 09:55 a.m. Subject: primer mensaje HEPPP hola me llamo alfredo y no tengo idea de 2 cosas, una como usar este tipo de listas.tengo que mandarle correo a alguien en especial? y mi segunda duda es la que me llevo a meterme a la lista es.. que tengo que descargar de los ftp de linux?, como se particiona el disco?, como lo instalo? como ves no son pocas me podes ayudar? Sino me decis quien puede?
Re: smail 3.2
Guenas On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 01:18:39AM +0200, Juanjo Martinez wrote: Veamos si llega mi primer correo a la lista con mutt. Llego :) Bueno lo que quiero comentaros es que smail se empeña en mandar el correo cada 20 minutos, pero lo que yo quiero es que lo encole hasta que hasta que haga runq, para lo cual he cambiado el valor de la variable FLAGS del /etc/init.d/smail, que estaba como -bd -q10m por -bd -q1w, pero no he conseguido nada, sigue haciéndolo cada 20 minutos, lo cual no me cuadraba antes ni ahora tampoco. ¿Cómo puedo solucionar esto? Mira a ver si hay en algo en el crontab del usuario mail. Mira por /var/spool/cron, a ver si hay algo. Creo recordar que smail tenia por ahi un fichero con tareas que incorporaba al cron, y era precisamente ahi donde se las arreglaba para saltar cada 20 minutos. Mira tambien en /etc/cron.d, que ahi me puso el Exim algo similar a mi. Saludines -- -- POWERED BY Linux. Debian 2.0 - Kernel 2.2.5 - User reg. 66054 Andres Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] Antequera (Malaga) - Spain Grupo LIMA (Asociacion de Usuarios de Linux de Malaga) http://iaeste.cie.uma.es/lima
[Fwd: Re: [linuxclub] - libc6]
Oi pessoal eu estou postando aqui esta estorinha pq não consegui resolver ainda este problema... :-( Alguém sabe me ajudar? Obrigado Itamar Original Message Subject: Re: [linuxclub] - libc6 Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 17:33:31 -0300 From: Itamar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: Itamar wrote: Pessoal, + 1 vez prciso de ajuda. Instalando o gnome ele me pediu o pacote libc6 (= 2.0.7u-6), o que estava praticamente impossível de achar, encontrei o libc6_2.1.1-0.1.deb, então mandei bala. A instalá-lo deu os seguintes erros: Preparing to replace libc6 2.0.7u-4 (using .../download/libc6_2.1.1-0.1.deb)... Unpacking replacement libc6... rm: error in loading shared libraries: /lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol: _dl_global_scope_end E depois disto, nada mais consegui fazer no GNU/Linux. Qq comando resulta num erro como o descrito para o rm. Tentei logar em single pelo LILO mas como era de se imaginar, não funcionou, disk boot tb não. Como saio desta?? [ ]s Itamar Oi Itamar, o que ocorreu é que você fez download da libc6 nova (glibc 2.1). A que você tinha era glibc 2.0. Até aí tudo bem. Mas, você fez o download incompleto. Unpacking replacement libc6... gzip:stdin:invalid compressed data--format violated dpkg-deb:subprocess gzip -dc returned error exit status 1 dpkg:error processing /mnt/install/download/libc6_2.1.1-0.1(--install): por isso deu erro de CRC. E parece que ele tentou instalar pela metade a biblioteca. A libc6 que você procurava está no ftp da Debian no diretório debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/base/libc6_2.0.7.19981211-6.deb e tem 571 kbytes. Tente instalá-lo na mão: dpkg -i libc6.deb Tente ir no irc da Debian também: server irc.us.openprojects.net channel #debian Boa sorte,PH É PH, eu tinha desconfiado deste problema no download, e obrigado por me dar o nome do pacote certo. Mas antes eu preciso resolver o problema de boot, já que ele não está bootando devido ao problema com a libc6. Usar single no LILO e boot disk não adiantaram. Qual outra opção eu teria para iniciar o sistema e entra como root? Thanx Itamar
Re: [Fwd: Re: [linuxclub] - libc6]
Hernan Joel Cervantes Rodriguez wrote: SP, sa 3 abr 14:18:32 1999 Oi Itamar : É PH, eu tinha desconfiado deste problema no download, e obrigado por me dar o nome do pacote certo. Mas antes eu preciso resolver o problema de boot, já que ele não está bootando devido ao problema com a libc6. Usar single no LILO e boot disk não adiantaram. Qual outra opção eu teria para iniciar o sistema e entra como root? Todos (ou quase todos) os programas dependem da libc para rodar. Sem ela nada feito. A solução é instalar a biblioteca correta, para isto use o disco rescue da versão que esteja usando, monte seu sistema de arquivos (sob o diretorio /target) e instale a libc6_xxx.deb usando o dpkg com a opção --root=/target Então Hernán, o rescue que tenho é o CD de instalação, mas ao inicializar por ele tenho o mesmo problema que sem ele, ou seja, na inicialização aparece a seguinte msg: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. init: error in loading shared libraries : /lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol: _dl_global_scope_end No entanto, na tela do dinstall existe a opção de saída na qual acesso o ash (acho) e lá consigo montar tudo o CD o meu root (em /target), mas não consigo executar o dpkg. Entrando em /target/usr/bin executo: #./dpkg dpkg: error in loading shared libraries libdpkg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Aguardo sugestões, Itamar
Re: [Fwd: Re: [linuxclub] - libc6]
SP, sa 3 abr 18:28:30 1999 Itamar : Então Hernán, o rescue que tenho é o CD de instalação, mas ao inicializar por ele tenho o mesmo problema que sem ele, ou seja, na inicialização aparece a seguinte msg: VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. init: error in loading shared libraries : /lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol: _dl_global_scope_end Não para iniciar o linux do seu computador usando o CD, é para usar a instalação do disco rescue (como se você fosse instalar-lo de novo). usando o menu de instalação monta sua estrutura de arquivos em target, logo pasa a segunda consola (ALT-F2). No entanto, na tela do dinstall existe a opção de saída na qual acesso o ash (acho) e lá consigo montar tudo o CD o meu root (em /target), mas não consigo executar o dpkg. Entrando em /target/usr/bin executo: Será que é o dinstall é o que falei? (ahco que sim). #./dpkg dpkg: error in loading shared libraries libdpkg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory É a segunda vez que esqueço de isso, disculpa :-) edita o arquivo /etc/ld.so.conf (olha que é no diretorio /etc y não no /target/etc) e adiciona as linhas : /target/lib /target/usr/lib e roda /target/sbin/ldconfig isto fara posséivel ao loader achar as bibliotecas que faltam. Se continuar o problema do symbol: _dl_global_scope_end tira a primeira a linha /target/lib do arquivo /etc/ld.so.conf e roda novamente /target/sbin/ldconfig Aguardo sugestões, Itamar -- Hernán Hernán J Cervantes Rodríguez Instituto de Física da USP e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] homepage : http://fge.if.usp.br/~hernan/
Lista contendo as atualizações do Kernel 2.0.36
Achei interessante colocar esta mensagem enviada por Linus Torvalds, que contém as atualizações do Kernel 2.0.36, para que voces possam verificar se as atualizações contidas nele são importantes para voce atualizar seu Kernel 2.0.34 para esta versão. --- Linux 2.0.36 patch - patch-2.0.36.gz (15-Nov-98) From: Linus Torvalds [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Linux-2.0.36.. Is out there. I won't claim any false credit for this: all the 2.0.x work was done by Alan Cox as the maintainer, and the 2.0.36 that is out there is exactly the same as Alan's pre-22 version that he asked people to check out. He just asked me to sprinkle some holy penguin-pee on it to bless it and make it official. This I have done (*). 2.0.36 is a lot of updates, mostly to various drivers. ISDN, various SCSI drivers and network cards have been updated quite heavily. ISDN to the degree that you need to make sure you have the most recent tools in order to play well with it. Have fun, Linus (*) This, btw, is not something I would suggest you do in your living room. Getting a penguin to pee on demand is _messy_. We're talking yellow spots on the walls, on the ceiling, yea verily even behind the fridge. However. I would also advice against doing this outside - it may be a lot easier to clean up, but you're likely to get reported and arrested for public lewdness. Never mind that you had a perfectly good explanation for it all. Here are the Release Notes from Alan Cox (who put together the 2.0.36 release for Linus): Bug Fixes - --- Large Memory Linux 2.0.36 uses the newer bios calls to automatically size memory above 64Mbytes, where supported by the BIOS. A maximum of just under 1Gig is available for Linux 2.0.36. Readv/Writev Processes issuing a readv or writev to a device that did not have the relevant read/write operation could cause an Oops and potentially a crash. UDMA Drives Report Bad CRC (cable errors) as a cable error. Handling of such errors was correct. TCP spoofing A very obscure TCP spoofing attack is now blocked. As far as we know only the lab who discovered it are aware of the problem, and no active use of such attack has ever been seen on the internet. SMP A pair of SMP bugs have been fixed. The first resolves the instabilities with 3+ CPU machines, the second resolves an IRQ forwarding problem that caused Re-entering IRQ hangs. SMP should be significantly more stable on 2.0.36 than previous 2.0.x releases. pipe syscall error The pipe call could return ENFILE not -1 and errno= -ENFILE. Fixed. AIC7xxx The 2.0.36 kernel contains the 5.1.4 release of the AIC7xxx driver. This should cure most of the remaining problems with the older chipsets. Users with the latest AIC7xxx devices will have to wait for the next driver version to become available or try the beta test driver. Procfs permissions fix A process with root file rights can now read all /proc files. Daylight Savings in SMB The SMB file system honours daylight savings time. EATA SCSI/Ultrastor 14f/34f Reverse scan order support and configurable extended geometry. Increased the busy timeout. IN2000 SCSI This driver now works in SMP mode. Build fixes Use relative paths for sound, remove trampoline.hex on a make clean, support the newer versioned symbols as part of a multi object file module. Oops handling A small fencepost error in Oops handling on syscall return has been cured. TLan 1.0 The Thunderlan driver has been updated to the 1.0 release. Delay loops The delay loop code has been modified to eliminate most of the remaining cache/branch prediction and other variants to its performance. 5.25 floppy An incorrect floppy table entry has been altered, and a potential crash on unload fixed. Iomega ZIP driver Handle 23.D firmware funnies. Cyclades Serial Upgraded driver from vendor, with assorted bugs fixed. Printer Driver The correction in the printer handling upset the Epson Stylus 800. The driver know has a LPSTRICT option that can be set for printers that need absolute strict NBUSY handling. Beeper gets stuck The case where the beeper decides to beep forever has been cured. 3c509 ethernet Upgraded to v1.16. Fixes ID port clash with sound
Ainda libc6 - era [Fwd: Re: [linuxclub] - libc6]
Hernan Joel Cervantes Rodriguez wrote: É a segunda vez que esqueço de isso, disculpa :-) Sem problemas ;-) edita o arquivo /etc/ld.so.conf (olha que é no diretorio /etc y não no /target/etc) e adiciona as linhas : /target/lib /target/usr/lib e roda /target/sbin/ldconfig Aí ele começa a dizer que não consegue encontrar um montão de libs em /target/usr/lib/lib_varias_coisas ;-) Fui verificar pq e descobri q em /target/usr/lib/ são todos links para /lib , só que agora eles estão apontando pro local errado, deveria ser /target/lib, mas se eu for mudar todos os links vou (quase) perder mais tempo que reinstalando todo o sistema. :-( Se eu pegasse um lib.so.6 de uma outra máquina i386 e colocasse no meu /target/lib/ será que resolveria o problema? [ ]s Itamar
Re: I really need help!
Hi, I had the same problem. See the thread Where is /etc/rc.d/rc.local on Debian in this mailing list a couple of days ago. No, there isn't any autoexec.bat in Linux. You will have to put stuff you want to start in etc/init.d and then update the boot scripts so that your additions also get included for the different runlevels. Again, there is a lot of information in that thread I mentioned regarding this. It was no is no simple task for a Linux newbie like me to grasp the boot system of Linux, but I did get what I needed to run running. On 02-Apr-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nuno Donato dixit: I really need sme help here. If you can, please help me. I want to know if there is a kind of autoexec.bat file in Linux, so that each times it boots, it automatically executes some commands. I need this because I have downloaded Blender(3d Software), and i must install symbolic links. But because I don't know how to do this before running Blender I need to execute a LARGE command. Do you know how ot install symbolic links? You don't install symbolic links, you create them ... do `man ln' for more information (`ln -s' will create a symlink). As for an autoexec.bat, not sure, I guess it depends on what you want to do, but mostly /etc/profile, or ~/.bash_profile, ... Regards Horacio -- Claves - GnuPG/PGP - Keys : http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver o/or Envía un mensaje vacío a [EMAIL PROTECTED] con la línea de asunto: Send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject line: Tipo de Clave/Key TypeAsunto:/Subject: DSA/ElGamal fetch dsa/elgamal DSS/Diffie-Hellmanfetch dh/dss RSA fetch rsa -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-99 Time: 18:00:26 UIN: 3945810 This message was sent by XFmail Powered by Debian GNU/Linux ---
Re: mail oddity
Hi all, I'm having a strange problem with my mail from debian-user. I received 400+ mails this morning of which approx. 30% were duplicates. I also received 57 repeats, which were from Monday. Has anyone else seen this? Are you using nmh (perhaps via exmh)? Then install the latest version of nmh from potato. Cheers, Mark. _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!
Re: I really need help!
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 02:42:50PM -0800, Nuno Donato wrote: I really need sme help here. If you can, please help me. I want to know if there is a kind of autoexec.bat file in Linux, so that each times it boots, it automatically executes some commands. There are several different things that you could call analogous to autoexec.bat. The one you probably want to modify is called .profile. Just say editor .profile. If you end up in somthing that you can't understand, it's probably vi. To get out of it, hit ^C, then :q!. Then say apt-get install ee at a prompt to install a more user-friendly editor. I need this because I have downloaded Blender(3d Software), and i must install symbolic links. But because I don't know how to do this before running Blender I need to execute a LARGE command. Do you know how ot install symbolic links? ln -s source file destination file Note that the source file is the one that gets created, and becomes (effectively) another name for the desrination file. If you should happen to get them reversed (which I do all the time), then you'll get an error message; just reverse the two again. -=- James Mastros
Re: GNOME 1.0 .deb package?
On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, Syrus Nemat-Nasser wrote: Ah. Now that I have that fixed, what's the proper place for enlightenment 0.15 debs for slink? The following contains dependencies on glibg6 =2.1 so I think it must be for potato: deb http://www.debian.org/~bma enlightenment/ The enlightenment debs are in the slink GNOME staging area as well. Everything should be fine. It's working for me as my default desktop environment for work. OK, got it all now. The bma source was overiding the files in the gnome staging area. Thanks. ...RickM...
Re: Microsoft Announces MS-Linux
On Fri, 2 Apr 1999, frankie wrote: It's April 2nd mate. It's gone now, but there was a nice product description page complete with a picture of the Linux 98 box (with a penguin of course) yesterday on www.microsoff.com Bob
Re: enlightenment/slink .xinitrc
I had my /etc/X11/window-managers start up enlightenment, then put the exec gnome-session into the .xsession in my home dir (I couldn't get X to read .xinitrc). -Jay
Re: GNOME 1.0 .deb package?
In a message dated 4/2/99 1:31:26 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink \ unstable main What's the difference between the above and: deb http://www.debian.org/~jules/gnome-stage-2 unstable main What should one use for a slink system? I believe stage 2 is for potato systems. -Jay
Re: RedHat = MS-Linux
Bruce Sass wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote: [snip] I don't want to see RH disappear any more than I want to see Debian disappear. I want to see enough cooperation between distros that allows app makers to write software that will work on most distros without major effort on the app maker's part. I'd like to see healthy competition between the distros, but not at the expense of application compatibility. I suspect that we have a difference of opinion about what a major effort is and when compatibility is broken. In my mind a computer is a tool, not an appliance. Either you learn how to use the tool and make it do what you want, or you complain to the developers until they do it for you. On compatibility, you're right. My major problem is a general lack of knowledge about other distro types. I used RH for a very little while a *long* time ago, and have used no other distro. I have to depend on what others have said. The tool/appliance issue is much more difficult. One the one hand understand the need to learn about some thing before being able to use that thing effectively, yet I know very smart people who will not do something like learning Linux if it requires a significant learning curve. They just want to get something done, and basically they are satisfied with the point-n-click interface of Win and the apps that are important to them. I guess I can empathize with both sides. ... There are differences between RH and Deb, primarily in the directory tree layout, and especially in places like /etc./ and /var/ (I think). Its not clear to me what the percentage of RH packages that can't be easily converted would be. Anybody with better knowledge like to speak up here? ditto that question. Filesystem differences are trivial, that is what ln is for, right? For the issue of a software package that needs to get a daemon running at bootup, I don't think the problem is trivial. The layout and use of the /etc/init.d and /etc/rc*.d dirs is (I've read) far from compatible between RH and Deb. I don't think we need to invent a 'patent' issue to effect that kind of fragmentation. I was just trying to rationalize how a piece of software could be unavailable and not reproducible by the OSS community. I didn't invent a patent issue, it just seems to be the only thing to prevent the creation of an OSS version of any piece of software. If the objective is an RH clone, and you can find a critical mass of developers willing to hack away, then there wouldn't be too much of a problem. RH would have to go to extraordinary means to keep the OSS people from duplicating anything that RH does. The objective of the LSB though is not to establish one Linux distro with the same identical dir structure and system maintenance tools and look-n-feel, the objective is to allow apps to be loadable on otherwise different distros that adhere to an underlying common base structure. As the 'Heinz ketchup' manifesto talked about, its brand name recognition and user perception that matters in a commercial market. All it takes is a user perception that RH is the only distro that matters, and we'll end up seeing companies releasing software meant for RH, and not bothering to support any distro that isn't RH compatible. But what would make the software incompatible. Whose yardstick. i386 RH and i386 Debian are compatible. I installed a pine 4.04 .rpm, using _RPM_, on my Debian system. It worked just fine. Once I told dpkg about it (by modifying the dpkg DB entry for the pine 3.96 .deb) you couldn't tell it was an alien unless you looked at the location of the config files. Now imagine a situation where a lib or program is only available as an RPM, which has other programs that depend on its config files and/or their location. Are there not several .debs that have an install script that needs to look at or modify another packages config stuff? At the very least, .deb scripts would have to know about the multiple locations of config files and possibly even different syntax for config files. Is this problem solvable? Sure, with a quite of bit of hacking. Can you always get enough programmers/developers to work on this kind of problem every time RH decides to change something to a non-standard method? Even if the answer here is yes also, Deb will always be a step behind, which might be exactly where other distros (RH) would want us to be. Please keep in mind, though, that my main concern beyond technical incompatibilities is a situation where RH is so dominant, app makers simply decide not to even support other distros. I know most Deb users probably aren't concerned with what happens on the commercial side of Linux market, but a few of us are. [snip] Also, if RH tries using proprietary libs on their
Re: No LILO Boot after Re-Install Windoze95
Jeff Hill wrote: Hmm, now that you say this, I looked back at the partition table (these are the essential details I remember): Partition BootStartEnd Type hda1Primary 1 19883 Linux Native hda2Primary 414 791 5 Extended hda3Primary 199 21582 Linux Swap hda4 *(something) DOS something hda5 Logical (etc.) DOS something hda6 Logical (etc.) DOS something So, this isn't exactly what I thought I had originally written as the partitions (no Linux native, only ext2). Now, what? I'm a bit lost. Switch hda1 to ext2 and bootable? Both hda1 hda4 need to be bootable. Linux Native is appropriate for hda1. Then use this lilo.conf file boot = /dev/hda Image= /vmlinuz label = linux Root = /dev/hda1 Other = /dev/hda4 Label = win This is what I have on my system, and all works fine. Hope this helps -- Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel
I'm playing trying to get a SoundBlaster 128 PCI card working with the 2.2.1 kernel. The card's id'ed as a 1275:5000 by lspci -n, so I've compiled it with the Ensoniq ES1370 driver in the kernel's sound options. However, I can't get a squeak out of the card. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to sound, despite reading the howtos and such; can someone give me some hints about what I'd need to do to configure this card? TIA. -- Regards,| Why would anyone want to run an operating . | system that is open source and is developed Randy | by hundreds of hackers worldwide? Find out ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | why at http://www.golgotha.net/why-linux/
where to find dbootstrap source??
Ahhh... my first entrance into official debiandom. Well, if this isn't annoying, does anyone know where to find the source for dbootstrap(the debian installation program)? I know how to find the program(easy) but the source isn't in any deb. Argg! Any pointers would be appreciated. Thanks, -Paul
Re: mail oddity
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 12:25:05AM -0600, James Starr wrote: Hi all, I'm having a strange problem with my mail from debian-user. I received 400+ mails this morning of which approx. 30% were duplicates. I also received 57 repeats, which were from Monday. Has anyone else seen this? I sure did, and not only with -user, but with most of the lists from debian-*. What's up guys? -- Pedro Guerreiro (aka digito)([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Diplomacy: the art of letting someone have your own way.
Hardware Upgrade: More RAM or SCSI?
Question for the gurus: I've got a web server putting out just 10K pages and about 25MB a day. Not much, but it's growing quickly and does get bogged down at certain times during the day (seems about half is served between 2:30 and 4:00 PM). Which is the better upgrade, more RAM or going to SCSI? Currently, I'm running a P150 with 96MB RAM on a fast IDE drive (7200 RPM). I'm working on upgrading the server to slink with Apache-SSL. We only have about 250MB of web pages, and I think I might be better off bumping RAM to something like 512MB rather than moving to SCSI (which would cost about the same). While both would be nice, I'm on a limited budget. The additional RAM, it would seem, would almost eliminate the need for heavy disk access (even with the mysql and htdig databases I run on it). Additionally, if I wait, I could move to SCSI with RAID rather than the basic ADAPTEC 2940UW that we are looking at. Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Hill -- * HR On-Line: The Network for Workplace Issues ** Ph:416-604-7251 -- Fax:416-604-4708 ** http://www.hronline.com **
Re: RedHat = MS-Linux
Ed Cogburn writes: For the issue of a software package that needs to get a daemon running at bootup, I don't think the problem is trivial. The layout and use of the /etc/init.d and /etc/rc*.d dirs is (I've read) far from compatible between RH and Deb. How about an install-rc tool? It would be essentially a generalization of update-rc.d. You would pass it a script and some parameters and it would install the script appropriately for the distribution. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: mail oddity
Exactly! I just finished reading -doc, -devel, and -qa. They're all doing it. This is starting to get unwieldy. Jstarr p.s. I'm using plain nsmail.
Multiple sources for APT
I have set up /etc/sources.list with multiple sites. Both sites offer different versions of the same package, but only the older version gets displayed. Of coarse I want the newer version. Here is my sources list file: deb http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome-stage-slink unstable main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free I am wanting to install GNOME 1.0. Thanx in advance -- Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
access for non-us packages
IIci 20/1G 68030 33.6 dial-up stand-alone w/ slink 2.1 installed 3/9/99. I am a newbie. I apologize if the answer is already out there, but I couldn't find it (about one week trying). I have just the basics installed, no man pages yet. Due to the amount of time it was taking to obtain selected packages in dselect, I edited against the Access defaults to try specific mirror sites. I'm back to what I think were the suggested paths. I've tried: http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US and http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US non-US main contrib non-free which I determined from reading the source for apt. During Upgrade it seems like the http.us.debian.org...path is working, but the non-us.debian.org... is not. It appears all efforts to access non-us.debian.org... sites return a 404 Not Found. At the end of Upgrade I get the error E: Packages file /var/state/apt/lists/non-us.debian.org_debian-non-US_dists_stable_non-US_binary-m68k_Packages has changed and the script tells me to correct this. How should the Access paths be configured? Is it unrealistic to expect success attempting to install from the net or should I surrender to CD's? Is there a faster way to obtain some bells and whistles via the net? My current plan is to Install the minimum necessary to get X Window running with wmaker and a couple of games, then add packages later. Pat Greenwood Omaha [EMAIL PROTECTED]
error running make
Hi, I downloaded imwheel 0.9.5 and ran the make command and got an error. I was wondering if you knew what I am missing. It looks like when it's trying to look for some X library and other stuff. jax.h:6: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory jax.h:7: X11/Xutil.h: No such file or directory jax.h:8: X11/Xresource.h: No such file or directory So of course it doesn't let me install imwheel. Am I missing something that it needs? Any help would be appreciated. Shawn Nguyen
Re: access for non-us packages
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 09:05:38PM -0600, Pat Greenwood wrote: Due to the amount of time it was taking to obtain selected packages in dselect, I edited against the Access defaults to try specific mirror sites. I'm back to what I think were the suggested paths. I've tried: http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US and http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US non-US main contrib non-free which I determined from reading the source for apt. I've attached my /etc/apt/sources.list file to this email; you should be able to simply copy it if you want a fairly bleading-edge system (potato distribution, with yet-to-land gnome and gnome-apt front-end. Of cource, you don't need to get gnome if you don't want it.) Is it unrealistic to expect success attempting to install from the net or should I surrender to CD's? It is absolutly reasonable, and I think would be considered a bug if it dosn't work. Is there a faster way to obtain some bells and whistles via the net? My current plan is to Install the minimum necessary to get X Window running with wmaker and a couple of games, then add packages later. I'd suguest enlightenment over wmaker, btw, but that's largely a personal choice. -=- James Mastros # Use for a local mirror - remove the ftp1 http lines for the bits # your mirror contains. # deb file:/your/mirror/here/debian stable main contrib non-free # See sources.list(5) for more information, especial # Remember that you can only use http, ftp or file URIs #deb ftp://debian.midco.net/debian stable main contrib non-free non-US #deb ftp://debian.midco.net/debian unstable main contrib non-free non-US #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free #deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable non-US deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US deb http://www.debian.org/~jules/gnome-stage-2 unstable main deb http://www.debian.org/~mblevin/gnome-apt unstable main deb http://pages.infinit.net/linux debian/
Re: X locales problems.
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 05:25:04PM -0300, Paulo José da Silva e Silva wrote: I have a slink/hamm mixed system (my slink cd's are on their way). I am having some problems with locale and X. For example, when I run WPrefs I get the following error message: WPrefs warning: X server does not support locale Them some complaining about fonts (and WPrefs refuses to run). I have $LC_ALL=pt_BR. If I set it to pt_PT or en_US WPrefs works OK. What is the problem? Why X doesn't support pt_BR? I am almost sure X supported that locale before I upgraded do slink xlib6g. Make sure you're using the latest version of the slink xlib6g package. The version number is 3.3.2.3a-11. For a while the locale and NLS data got caught in limbo, but that problem was solved months ago. My /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias file has the following lines (among many others): pt pt_PT.ISO8859-1 pt_BR pt_BR.ISO8859-1 pt_PT pt_PT.ISO8859-1 pt_PT.88591 pt_PT.ISO8859-1 pt_PT.88591.en pt_PT.ISO8859-1 pt_PT.iso88591 pt_PT.ISO8859-1 pt_PT.ISO_8859-1pt_PT.ISO8859-1 portuguese_brazil.8859 pt_BR.ISO8859-1 portuguese.iso88591 pt_PT.ISO8859-1 locale.alias is not a conffile, so yours should have these exact same lines. If you don't, or if the file doesn't exist, that may explain the problem. Reinstall xlib6g. -- G. Branden Robinson | Debian GNU/Linux |// // // / / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |EI 'AANIIGOO 'AHOOT'E cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgppifL52TTvT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: where to find dbootstrap source??
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 12:59:15AM +, Paul Dubbell wrote: Well, if this isn't annoying, does anyone know where to find the source for dbootstrap(the debian installation program)? I know how to find the program(easy) but the source isn't in any deb. Argg! Any pointers would be appreciated. I think you'll find it in the boot-floppies source package. -- G. Branden Robinson | Q: How does a Unix guru have sex? Debian GNU/Linux | A: unzip;strip;touch;finger;mount;fsck; [EMAIL PROTECTED] | more;yes;fsck;fsck;fsck;umount;sleep cartoon.ecn.purdue.edu/~branden/ | pgpILE2x2k3Ut.pgp Description: PGP signature
Debian T-shirt
(also posted to debian-devel earlier) Anyone know where I can find a Debian T-shirt? HmmI've checked out lots of places that sell Linux clothing, and can not find any Debian t-shirts. Does anyone know where I can find a Debian T-shirt / Hat? If not...maybe anyone interested in coordinating the development of some Debian T-shirts / hats? I might be interested in doing a project like this Paul Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
compiling gvim(vim) + where are help files
I want to recompile gvim (an vim) in order to have hebrew suport (+rightleft). The problem is that I couldn't find how to make gvim (gui version) only vim. (I am using src ver. 5.3) I managed to compile vim, only it was very large, and it would complete comands using tab. Another problem is that vim doesn't seem to find its help files. If anyone can help me. Thanx _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Newbie Questions
Hi, everyone! I have used various versions of RedHat and SuSE for about ten months and have decided to give Debian a try. Unfortunately, the coddling of the configuration tools in each distro has left me with only a scant knowledge of where things are kept in the configuration file. Here's my problem of the moment. I copied over the .fetchmailrc file from my current RH setup. It connects splendidly, but returns this message when it tries to transfer the messages: 45 messages for cmayes at my.isp.imap.server (202838 octets). reading message 1 of 45 (1039 header octets) .fetchmail: SMTP listener doesn't like recipient address [EMAIL PROTECTED]' fetchmail: can't even send to cmayes! fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from my.isp.imap.server fetchmail: Query status=10 Where would the SMTP listener get the [EMAIL PROTECTED] information? I have the hostname file set to cmayes, which seems to have worked in previos scenarios. I'm trying to pull the maill off of the server using IMAP. If I need to supply any more info, plese let me know! I have a great deal to learn about the manual configuration of the innards of Linux (Specifically Debian, if all goes well), but I look forward to the challenge. One last thing: I have decided to live dangerously and open up my apt-get to the unstable tree. The main reason was that I wanted to upgrade Window Maker to the latest build. However, when I apt-got the wmaker-gnome file, it decidedthat it needed to pull down 250 (!!) other packages while it was at it. Since I've always been the adventurous type, I've decided to let apt-get upgrade half of my system to the unstable packages. Is this unwise/stupid to do? I still have more stable Linux installs (RH 5.2 and SuSE 5.3) on other partitions in case of disaster. Plus, this box is far from mission-critical (aside from typing papers, coding, and checking e-mail ;-)). Oh, that reminds me: where do I set the default windowmanager? Since I wasn't given the option of making Window Maker the default during the setup, it comes up on some version of fvwm, and I have to make a number of mouse movements to get where I want to go (oh, the humanity!). WEll, that's all for now. Thanks in advance! -Chris -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS/CC/MC d- s+:+ a-- C++ US P L++ E W++ N- o? K? w O M- V- PS++ PE+ Y+ PGP- t+ 5 X+ R tv+ b++ DI+ D- G e+(++) h--- r++ z+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
Re: Screen resolution
At 4/1/99 3:43:00 PM, you wrote: Chances are, it will say that no valid modes are found (at least there are ways that can work to go around that. I have a more/less readable file on my page, about how to setup video modes. Try that too), but just to be sure, post them here, and we'll see what we can do. I went to your web site and was able to figure it all out. Thanks. I removed the 640x480 from the modes list. All seems to be good now and I understand how it works. Doug Dine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/dougdine http://members.xoom.com/loveless NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html
Exim Mail filters for Macro and other VIRUS?
does anyone know or have an idea of what I need to put on EXIM to filter for macro viruses and other pestelance like happy99? It would be really cool to catch that at the transport agent and trash it then. Thanks in advance! Kent __ Kent Andersen Great Basin Telecom.. Richfield UT got Internet? __
RE: SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel
hi look for /dev/audio... if it's not there run /dev/MAKEDEV audio it should work and yes, it's an ensoniq card, sb bought them some times ago. Benoit Joly On 03-Apr-99 Randy Edwards wrote: I'm playing trying to get a SoundBlaster 128 PCI card working with the 2.2.1 kernel. The card's id'ed as a 1275:5000 by lspci -n, so I've compiled it with the Ensoniq ES1370 driver in the kernel's sound options. However, I can't get a squeak out of the card. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to sound, despite reading the howtos and such; can someone give me some hints about what I'd need to do to configure this card? TIA. -- Regards,| Why would anyone want to run an operating . | system that is open source and is developed Randy | by hundreds of hackers worldwide? Find out ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | why at http://www.golgotha.net/why-linux/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- E-Mail: Benoit Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03-Apr-99 Time: 00:47:26 This message was sent by XFMail --
RE: ATI 3D Pro Turbo PC2TV graphic card + ATI-TV tuner card setu
hi, for your 2nd question, ATI dont release spec but a guilde of geek on the net hacked the card and there is a little support for ati tv card. ati all-in-wonder should work and some ati addon-card (not mine at this time :( ). just look at http://ati.veiled.net/ go in the devel section and try gatos... it's still a devel version so be carefull to not blow your card even if ati sux :). my advice for peoples who wants to buy an ati card: DONT BUY ATI STUFF! they dont and will NOT SUPPORT linux!!! it's the last time I have an ati card. not that the card is not good, but ati dont give us a good support. Benoit Joly On 02-Apr-99 David Nelson wrote: Hullo there! I have an ATI 3D Pro Turbo PC2TV with 8 Mb RAM and an ATI-TV tuner card. I just installed slink and X with the ATI Mach64 server for the 3rd time (don't ask why 3 times). Second time around, X came up with a virtual desktop of 1600 x 1200 and a screen resolution of 800 by 600. Perfect! However, this time around it will only come up with an 800 by 600 desktop... no more virtual desktop. On exiting X I see the server started up with Mode 800 by 600 and Virtual Resolution 800 by 600. 1) Could somebody please advise me how to get the virtual desktop back? 2) Does anybody know if I can use my ATI-TV tuner card under X (ATI itself does not directly support Linux)? With hopeful thanks in advance, David Nelson -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- E-Mail: Benoit Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03-Apr-99 Time: 00:49:37 This message was sent by XFMail --
dhcpcd problems
Hi all: I got my cable modem installed today, and now I'm trying to get it running under Linux. The Cable-Modem Howto directed me to the DHCP Howto, and it instructed me to install the dhcpcd client. I downloaded dhcpcd_0.70-5.deb and when I installed it I got the followinf error message from dpkg: (Reading database ... 49927 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace dhcpcd 1:0.70-5 (using dhcpcd_0.70-5.deb) ... Stopping DHCP client daemon: dhcpcd. Unpacking replacement dhcpcd ... Setting up dhcpcd (0.70-5) ... dpkg: error processing dhcpcd (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: dhcpcd The line indicating that it is stopping the DHCP client suggests that I already had it installed(?). dpkg says that it's half-configured now. I tried getting it off a couple of the alternate sites with the same results. Anybody know what I need to do? Am I on the right track to begin with? TIA -- __ _ Mark Wagnon Debian GNU/ -o) / / (_)__ __ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
Re: I really need help!
James Mastros wrote: Do you know how ot install symbolic links? ln -s source file destination file Yes Note that the source file is the one that gets created, and becomes (effectively) another name for the desrination file. No; that's the wrong way round. The source is the one that already exists; the destination is the new link to be created. ln (link) is analogous to cp (copy) and mv (move, rename), which may help one to remember which way to put the arguments. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.I Corinthians 10:13
/dev/isdnctrl Operation not supported....
Hai, I'm buzy installing my Telis ISDN card on my Linux box. Currently i'm running Debian with a 2.0.34 kernel When I do isdnctrl addif ippp0 I get a 'operation not supported by device' message back. I have tryed lots and lots of things but still no luck. Does anybody have a clue? Best Regards, Ries van Twisk
Re: Newbie Questions
Chris Mayes wrote: [... other questions I have skipped ...] Oh, that reminds me: where do I set the default windowmanager? /etc/X11/window-managers The one at the top of the list is the default. Or edit your own .xinitrc and .xsession to change it for your self only. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.I Corinthians 10:13
processing makefile.in
With what am i suposed to process a makefile.in (tried using make -f , and i get an answear: makefile.in:362 *** missing seperator. (I downloaded this from cvs and it's the first time i'm tring this so maybe it's just not supposed to compile ?) also, in relation to the same file, where or what is gmake? Thanx _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
scheme, SLIB and JACAL
I have just been reading about JACAL, a symbolic mathematics system, written under scheme. I found its web page at http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~jaffer/JACAL.html It is GNU licenced, but there doesn't seem to be a debian package for it. Anyway, I was interested in trying it out, so I downloaded it. It says it needs SLIB installed in order to run it --- in fact, SLIB was written by the same guy who wrote JACAL. I noticed that SLIB is in fact packaged for Debian, so that was fine. The next thing is to find an implementation of scheme. I know very little about scheme, or which scheme to used. I saw that rscheme was a package so I tried installing that. But I didn't know how to get SLIB initialized with it. There seem also to be other versions of scheme such as guile and more. Could someone give me some clues as to which version of scheme I should use, and how I should get it to use SLIB? Thanks, Mark. _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!
Re: isdnctrl dialmode
On Sat, 03 Apr 1999 01:26:58 +0200, you wrote: when I set 'isdnctrl dialmode' to 'manual', it says that my kernel don't have/support this option. You need kernel 2.0.36 to have the dialmode option. it's mainly to stop autodialing to the isp when I just want to connect to my LAN and it's irritating. Remove the default route. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber |Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Karlsruhe, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom | Fon: *49 721 966 32 15 Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG Rightful Heir | Fax: *49 721 966 31 29
Slink Install: Kernel Unpacking Sound Problems
Hello, I have to problems that I think may be related. 1) I installed slink from scratch on a Dell Laptop (which worked using hamm) and selected the source for kernel 2.0.36. When I went to the /usr/src directory, I fount the tar file had not been extracted and therefore there was no linux symbolic link to the extracted tarball. This suggests that there is a bug in kernel_package somewhere, as this happened twice. I extracted the tarball and created the linux link to it (now this is where I may have missed some steps out in setting up all the neccessary links) I then when through the make menuconfig (loading a config file I had used for hamm to get the sound working as the defaults dont work for my laptop). I checked everything was still okay and when through the make-kpkg stuff, make modules, make modules_install. Everything works fine, or seems to from the boot messages, but this brings me onto problem two: 2) Sound does not work (even though it says so at boot up). From looking round the filespace, none of the sound directories in /dev seem to exist, which explains why sound wont work. Is there anything I can do except try install the whole thing again?? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, John.begin:vcard n:Stevenson;John tel;fax:+31 20 34 22 820 tel;work:+31 20 34 22 820 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:www.oa.nl org:OA Europe version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Technical Consultant adr;quoted-printable:;;Objective Alliance=0D=0AHoghilweg 14L;Amsterdam;Zoud Oust;1101 CD;Nederlands x-mozilla-cpt:;-11328 fn:John Stevenson end:vcard
Re: Slink Install: Kernel Unpacking Sound Problems
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 09:51:44AM +0200, John Stevenson wrote: From looking round the filespace, none of the sound directories in /dev seem to exist, which explains why sound wont work. MAYBE you could try cd dev; ./MAKEDEV update with the sb modules inserted. this does create /dev/dsp and /dev/audio, but i'm still getting Cannot initialize DSP errors. YMMV. -vinny -- Vincent Murphy | CompSci Undergrad, UCC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (086) 8397405 With a PC, I always felt limited by the software available. On Unix, I am limited only by my knowledge. --P J Schoenster
Re: Newbie Questions
Or edit your own .xinitrc and .xsession to change it for your self only. Have you been able to work out the difference between .xinitrc and .xsession? From what I've been able to gather, .xinitrc is not used by Debian --- is this right? Cheers, Mark. _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!
Re: Newbie Questions
Mark Phillips wrote: Or edit your own .xinitrc and .xsession to change it for your self only. Have you been able to work out the difference between .xinitrc and .xsession? From what I've been able to gather, .xinitrc is not used by Debian --- is this right? Cheers, Mark. .xinitrc is used if you start X with 'startx' and .xession if you run xdm. frankie _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Confession is good for the soul only in the sense that a tweed coat is good for dandruff. --Peter de Vries http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk - Drum'n'Bass music, samples and links. ICQ://25576761begin:vcard n:;Frankie x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.skunkpussy.freeserve.co.uk adr:;;;Birmingham;;;UK version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Mr x-mozilla-cpt:;-8160 fn:Frankie end:vcard
Re: Newbie Questions
Or edit your own .xinitrc and .xsession to change it for your self only. Have you been able to work out the difference between .xinitrc and .xsession? From what I've been able to gather, .xinitrc is not used by Debian --- is this right? Cheers, Mark. .xinitrc is used if you start X with 'startx' and .xession if you run xdm. This can't be right, as I use startx and .xsession. Cheers, Mark. _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!
Re: processing makefile.in
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 23:29:20 -0800, Micha Feigin wrote: With what am i suposed to process a makefile.in ./configure processes it for you. (I downloaded this from cvs and it's the first time i'm tring this so maybe it's just not supposed to compile ?) If you don't have a ./configure script yet (quite possible with sources from CVS), read the documenation of autoconf on how to generate it. also, in relation to the same file, where or what is gmake? On non-GNU systems, GNU programs are sometimes installed with a g prefix. It's GNU make; the regular make on Linux. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Potato and egcs
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 00:18:50 -0800, George Bonser wrote: Ok, whose big idea was it not to provide a real gcc in potato? Fully switching to EGCS has been planned for potato for quite some time now. Maybe it is me but I couldn't find one. There isn't one, yet. We're working on building one from the gcc27 source package. I did an auto-upgrade and broke my ability to compile 2.0.27-pre kernels cleanly. Welcome to unstable. I don't mind being offered egcs but I would LIKE the chance to stay with gcc. Forcing egcs is fine IF debian is going to produce patched versions of all the latest kernels so they will work. 2.2.x is the latest kernel. I happen to need 2.0.37 (because it has the Initio support I need, it is more up to date than 2.2.5). It can't be that difficult to update 2.2.5's from it. Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Gnuplot 3.7
Anyone knows when/if gnuplot 3.7 will be avaliable as Debian package? Have a nice day,Paulo Henrique
Re: Potato and egcs
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 03:11:50 -0800, George Bonser wrote: On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, J.H.M. Dassen wrote: 2.2.x is the latest kernel. But 2.0.37 has newer drivers than Linus' 2.2 releases ... maybe I should be using the ac stuff? At the moment, I trust Alan's patches more than Linus' releases (though I did a grep in 2.2.5-ac3 for initio, and didn't find an update (relative to 2.2.5)). 2.2.5 won't build with the egcs in potato either. For a particular configuration perhaps. I've had no problems compiling 2.2.X(-acY) kernels for my systems. 2.2.5 is the latest kernel but 2.0.37 has the latest hardware support. You may want to mail Alan privately to ask him to include the updated drivers you're concerned about. (Or even better, provide him with a patch). Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: isdnctrl dialmode
Bon Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: when I set 'isdnctrl dialmode' to 'manual', it says that my kernel don't have/support this option. any suggestions? You either need the kernel 2.0.x (x = 36) or 2.2.x with the current isdn driver patched in (e.g., ftp.suse.com/pub/isdn4linux). Otherwise the dialmode option is not supported by the ISDN subsystem. Torsten BTW: There is a newsgroup de.alt.comm.isdn4linux where you can ask your questions regarding isdn4linux, feel free to ask in your favorite language (but english and german questions are guaranteed to be understood my almost all readers).
Re: Newbie Questions
On Sat, Apr 03, 1999 at 07:55:06PM +0930, Mark Phillips wrote: .xinitrc is used if you start X with 'startx' and .xession if you run xdm. This can't be right, as I use startx and .xsession. it is right if you're talking about X on other *NIX systems, but not with debian. debian (from slink onwards i think) has an alternative (more elegant IMO) arrangement. see Xsession(5). the short answer: .xsession is used by both startx and xdm in debian. correct me if i'm wrong, but that's what i understood from the manpage. -vinny -- Vincent Murphy | CompSci Undergrad, UCC | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (086) 8397405 With a PC, I always felt limited by the software available. On Unix, I am limited only by my knowledge. --P J Schoenster
Re: access for non-us packages
I'd suguest enlightenment over wmaker, (Hoping not to start a flame war...:-) Why? -- Regards, | Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org - More software than . | *any* distribution, rock solid reliability, quality control, Randy | seamless upgrades via ftp or CD-ROM, strict filesystem layout | and adherence to standards, and militantly 100% FREE Linux!
Debian 2.1 iso source..
hmm.. I've dowloaded debian 2.1 source in iso files. Wrote them to 2 cd:s and now I can't find any installations files.. the cd don't boot and the cd label says Debian 21 disc 3 -- source-1.iso on the cd I can't find any install files .. what am I missing ?? /Gurra _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Getting ISDN connection with kernel = 2.2.4
Hi, Since kernel 2.2.3 I was unable to get my isdn connection with a PCBIT card (manufactured in Portugal). My /var/log/syslog file looks like: ---cut here--- Apr 1 22:09:12 cavern kernel: ippp0: dialing 0 my ISP number... Apr 1 22:09:20 cavern kernel: isdn_net: local hangup ippp0 Apr 1 22:09:20 cavern kernel: fsm error: event 4 on state 1 Apr 1 22:09:20 cavern kernel: ippp0: Chargesum is 0 Apr 1 22:09:28 cavern kernel: ippp0: dialing 0 my ISP number... Apr 1 22:09:28 cavern kernel: fsm error: event 1 on state 1 Apr 1 22:09:36 cavern kernel: isdn_net: local hangup ippp0 Apr 1 22:09:36 cavern kernel: fsm error: event 4 on state 1 Apr 1 22:09:36 cavern kernel: ippp0: Chargesum is 0 cut here-- I already had installed the newest files needed for 2.2 kernel versions for kernel's tree. Also had compiled the lastest isdn4k-utils tarball but it still the same. Any help !? Thanks. Regards, Nuno Carvalho ¨¨ Nuno Emanuel F. Carvalho Dep. Informatics Engineering University of Coimbra PGP key available at finger ¨¨
Re: SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel
look for /dev/audio... if it's not there run /dev/MAKEDEV audio Yes, I already have a audio device: crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 4 Apr 1 18:18 /dev/audio (I added the other r/w perms myself) Still no noise though. I'm thinking that I need something else in the kernel configuration (I've never played with the sound settings). Right now the only thing I have in the kernel configuration is Ensoniq AudioPCI (ES1370) flagged as asterisk to compile it right in. The compile goes fine, it's just that I get no sound. Do I need any of the OSS sound modules with this card? -- Regards, | Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org - More software than . | *any* distribution, rock solid reliability, quality control, Randy | seamless upgrades via ftp or CD-ROM, strict filesystem layout | and adherence to standards, and militantly 100% FREE Linux!
netscape ignore's clicks
Dang , id hoped this problem would dissapear, guess not. Netscape v4.51 ( 4.5 prior) on 2.2.5 , potato, windowmaker I occasionally find that netscape gets 'testy' and refuses to do anything about my clicking on links exept mark them as followed, it wont go anywhere unless i select to open the link in a new window. Gr. Sheesh its also a memory hog for sure. :)
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
The other problem that faces someone peeping over the hedge from M$ Windows land is ``where to find the applications''. There aren't so many magazines reviewing Linux apps as there are reviewing M$ apps. If you The magazines are paid for by the advertising. They will always concentrate on commercial products as that's where their bread and butter is (actually I normally buy computer magazines purely for the advertising!) It's something that schools seem very poor at putting across, that the world you see in the media is not the real world, but much more of a Truman show world. Shops are in a similar position; if you can legally duplicate your own Linux system, they will not give much shelf space to them, and will only have them in jewel cases, whereas there will be vast boxes to contain the CDs for the commercial products. walk into your local high street computer store you will probably see a few boxes of RedHat/Suse/..., and hundreds of boxes of M$ games, finance apps, music composition, ... This means that if you want these apps you need to know where to look and you really need an internet connection. Originally the internet bypassed the traditional advertising channels, but is now being swamped with the same sort of advertising, so even on the internet you have to know what you are looking for these days. On the othe hand, Linux is not set up to support dumb end users, so it is maybe better that there is a filter to eliminate those with little initiative. MS products are normally designed for minimal configuration by dumb users, and have a support organisation to cope with those who aren't satisfied with the defaults and can't work out how to configure the products for themselves. Open source software is now getting overwhelmed by end users expecting free consultancy as of right - most people are prepared to help those who have done their own research and failed, but not those who just want to be told how to make things work their way (often without clearly understanding what their way is).
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 12:41:20AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:22:47 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 1999 at 08:45:09PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: This is the proper thing to do since it then lets the other end decide not only *IF* they want the file, but *when* then want the file. If the sending user is on a dialup connection, how on earth can this work? Think about it. Your homework assignment, should you choose to accept it, Hamish, is Steve, your credibility would improve incredibly if you weren't so damn patronising. this. To figure out ways for people on dial-up connections to allow people to download files from an embedded URL. Your tools are the following: A local FTP client so the person can upload the file to one of the following An ISP/company/orignization run HTTP server. An ISP/company/originzation run FTP server. This is way ugly. as the standards and conventions surrounding them. One of which is the embedded HTTP defiled URL inside an email message sent and received by a combonation of SMTP and POP3/IMAP4rev2 to direct them to a proper FTP location. It would be better, IMHO, for the mail client at the receipient's end to be able to retrieve the message without any attachments, then download them from the server if needed. I don't like the idea of pointers to files, except where such files are ALREADY published. For internal corporate use, the sharing of files was, again, built into the systems of yesteryear. That would be what *GROUPS* are for on the system we all know and love, Unix. It is so a GROUP of people would have access to read and or change files so that said GROUP of people could cooperate on a project. And the relevance of this paragraph is? So, uh, Hamish, without being to provocotive for you... How, EXACTLY, would you take it to some upstart developer *demanding* changes in the way Debian does things even though there are clear procedures, conventions and techology to allow him to do exactly what he wants if he only took the time to learn it? I have absolutely no idea what this has to do with the issue of large email messages. Perhaps you could debate this with someone who does. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 10:41:47AM +0200, Stefan Nobis wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish reason); the technology should allow users to send huge email Hamish attachments if they need to. Otherwise it should be fixed. OK, but then the user should be prepared to pay for it! And often people in the USA seems to forget that there are other Some people forget that not all debian.org users are in the USA. I do pay for bandwidth here in .AU. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 03:31:34PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Work Tech Support at an ISP for two weeks. You'll get sick of hearing from people who get 2-3Mb attachments from people which clogs their email until Admin gets in there to clear it out. When they hear what the attachment is, most times it is with exasperation that they will speak with the individual who sent it since they didn't want it. Happens about 4-5 times a week on a *small* ISP of only 7,000 customers. Meanwhile the converse, people complaining about large mails not getting through is maybe 4-5 a year. Then educate your users and have your users educate their friends not to send them large attachments that they don't really want. Change the technology to fix a people problem? Ugh. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?
On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 06:42:40PM +0930, Mark Phillips wrote: Oh, and I tested out my idea for a script by using minicom. First I did atm2 OK but I couldn't hear anything. Then I did That just turns the speaker always-on while you are online. If you're not online, it does nothing. Actually, perhaps I could try atd without actually specifying a number. I wonder if this would work?? Yes it should. (And I am also curious as to why the ABORT NO DIALTONE doesn't seem to work --- I always thought it did abort, but just took its time about doing so --- ie only after it had dialed the number and waited a while. But from what Bud Rogers has said, it would seem the abort should happen straight away.) Perhaps your modem is not reporting NO DIALTONE -- make sure you have set ATX4 or so (assuming Rockwell-based modem). Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
Re: dhcpcd problems
Hi all: I got my cable modem installed today, and now I'm trying to get it running under Linux. The Cable-Modem Howto directed me to the DHCP Howto, and it instructed me to install the dhcpcd client. I downloaded dhcpcd_0.70-5.deb and when I installed it I got the followinf error message from dpkg: (Reading database ... 49927 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace dhcpcd 1:0.70-5 (using dhcpcd_0.70-5.deb) ... Stopping DHCP client daemon: dhcpcd. Unpacking replacement dhcpcd ... Setting up dhcpcd (0.70-5) ... dpkg: error processing dhcpcd (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: dhcpcd The line indicating that it is stopping the DHCP client suggests that I already had it installed(?). dpkg says that it's half-configured now. I tried getting it off a couple of the alternate sites with the same results. 1) this package fails in 2.2 kernels and late 2.1, so get dhcpcd-sv if you use them 2) the package dies if no /etc/resolv.conf exists and also on some other condition, mail the maintainer to let them know of your current situation.
Broken Config. in!
I did a search of the archives and found others have had my problem but didn't see any solutions except 'use make config.' I'm attempting to compile the stock kernel in Slink. When I run make xconfig it ends with the following error, wish-f scripts/kconfig. tk Warning-Broken Config. in! m was not declared! Warning-Broken Config. in! CONFIG_ALPHA_BOK1 was not declared! ahwba Thanks, Kent
Re: Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error?
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 03:07:37PM +0100, Vincent Murphy wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 1999 at 05:17:04PM -0800, Ramiel Givergis wrote: I have spent about a week trying to figure out why neither my Creative Labs SB16 or AWE64 work under Debian (2.2.4 2.1) I think it has to do with the way my motherboard handles the irq's and pnp etc. i have EXACTLY the same problem. As do I. I have an SB16 PnP (Vibra 16C, not 16X). I get DMA timeouts from some programs, but mixers and some other player programs work fine. I use dma=1, dma16=5. It works fine in 2.0.35, but doesn't work properly in 2.2.3. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
Re: Sound: DMA (output) timed out - IRQ/DRQ config error?
On Fri, Apr 02, 1999 at 09:42:51AM -0600, Stephen Pitts wrote: 1. run pnpdump /etc/isapnp.conf 2. Edit isapnp.conf and uncomment the configuration that I wanted 3. run isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf to configure the sound card 4. Load the sb module automagically with kmod (or manually with modprobe sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=3) dma16=3 causes an error here, because 3 is not a 16-bit DMA channel (AFAIK). (CONFIGURE CTL00f0/-1 (LD 0 This is not the same card as mine. Mine is CTL0070. Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
Re: Exim Mail filters for Macro and other VIRUS?
*- On 2 Apr, Kent Andersen wrote about Exim Mail filters for Macro and other VIRUS? does anyone know or have an idea of what I need to put on EXIM to filter for macro viruses and other pestelance like happy99? It would be really cool to catch that at the transport agent and trash it then. Thanks in advance! Kent Check out the exim mailing list archive at http://www.roads.lut.ac.uk/lists/exim-users/. There has been a fair amount of discussion on this topic on that list. -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -
Re: /dev/isdnctrl Operation not supported....
Ries van Twisk wrote: Hai, I'm buzy installing my Telis ISDN card on my Linux box. Currently i'm running Debian with a 2.0.34 kernel When I do isdnctrl addif ippp0 I get a 'operation not supported by device' message back. I have tryed lots and lots of things but still no luck. Does anybody have a clue? You will get this is the appropriate modules are not loaded in your kernel. lsmod should show isdn and a card-specific module. -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver PGP key from public servers; key ID 32B8FAA1 No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.I Corinthians 10:13
Re: Debian 2.1 iso source..
Gurra db wrote: hmm.. I've dowloaded debian 2.1 source in iso files. Wrote them to 2 cd:s and now I can't find any installations files.. the cd don't boot and the cd label says Debian 21 disc 3 -- source-1.iso on the cd I can't find any install files .. what am I missing ?? Those are the ISO images containing all the source code of the programs Debian is built from. You need to put the binary-i386 ISO's (there are 2 of them) on a CD, they contain the actual compiled packages you need to install Debian. bye, -Remco
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 3 Apr 1999 23:57:48 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Steve, your credibility would improve incredibly if you weren't so damn patronising. I'm only patronizing to those who deserve it. A local FTP client so the person can upload the file to one of the following An ISP/company/orignization run HTTP server. An ISP/company/originzation run FTP server. This is way ugly. How so? It is the proper way and the way it has been done for the past decade. It would be better, IMHO, for the mail client at the receipient's end to be able to retrieve the message without any attachments, then download them from the server if needed. This would be IMAP. However, since most unix programmers insist on doing mail in the utterly wrong fashion Unix IMAP implimentations, even UWashinton's own in Pine, is sorely lacking. I don't like the idea of pointers to files, except where such files are ALREADY published. But if the sender is the one publishing the file surely they know where it is. For internal corporate use, the sharing of files was, again, built into the systems of yesteryear. That would be what *GROUPS* are for on the system we all know and love, Unix. It is so a GROUP of people would have access to read and or change files so that said GROUP of people could cooperate on a project. And the relevance of this paragraph is? To point out that in a corporate intranet sending large messages via email is also a bad idea because such sharing is generally provided by the OS. Even Windows has basic sharing built into it. So, uh, Hamish, without being to provocotive for you... How, EXACTLY, would you take it to some upstart developer *demanding* changes in the way Debian does things even though there are clear procedures, conventions and techology to allow him to do exactly what he wants if he only took the time to learn it? I have absolutely no idea what this has to do with the issue of large email messages. Perhaps you could debate this with someone who does. It is called an analogy. I know that for backwater people, such as yourself, that is a hard concept to grasp, but it actually works quite well. See, I was drawing an analogy between the clueless people who want to do everything via email because they don't know how to use other protocols, the proper proceuders, history and conventions and the clueless people who want to do things inside Debian because they don't know about the proper procedures, history and conventions. IE, I have seen you vehemently defend how Debian, as a project, does certainly things against upstart newbie developers. Now, if we take Debian and replace it with Internet, does things with RFCs and upstart 'newbie' developers with newbie internet users we see that the analogy does, indeed fit. To put it another way, I was wondering why you were defending the clueless view when it comes to adherence to the standards, conventions and procedures of the Internet when you're one of the defenders of Debian's own standards, conventions and procedures? - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNwYw6npf7K2LbpnFEQIIcwCeL2FIQ7X4NrsvflYm5qJEydzlS4oAn38T iWuEpiP7xtFo1iRjALSmH7lD =EXWg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 00:01:15 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Then educate your users and have your users educate their friends not to send them large attachments that they don't really want. Change the technology to fix a people problem? Ugh. Yes, that is exactly what we did. We didn't just say, Well, that's what people want, the technology should change to suit them. We educated them as to the proper way to do things. To send URLs for files they uploaded to our servers instead of the files themselves, for example. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNwYxO3pf7K2LbpnFEQJ9bACgw7r9wD9Qd3pGMe0IiF2n+dx4ciIAn2LS i0s3HX6T+pSrvwU4yeuyBVzV =uJU5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Wvdial permissions
I always end up doing horrible, insecure hacks in order to access the wvdial stuff, and since I am now using wvdial's home distribution, I'd like to do it properly. Here's the current error: cmayes:~$ wvdial -- Can't read config file: Permission denied Here's the config file's permissions: -rw-r- 1 root dialout 186 Mar 29 21:54 /etc/wvdial.conf This means that the dialout group can read it, right? So, I did this to the dialout line of /etc/group: dialout:x:20:cmayes: Is that the right way to do it? It still doesn't work, so aparrently not ;-) As always, your help is very much appreciated. Thanks! -Chris -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS/CC/MC d- s+:+ a-- C++ US P L++ E W++ N- o? K? w O M- V- PS++ PE+ Y+ PGP- t+ 5 X+ R tv+ b++ DI+ D- G e+(++) h--- r++ z+ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK--
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Hi; Can you give me the price for cable hook up for the computer? What is the cost for hook up ? Thanks Sharon Martin
Re: I really need help!
Howdy Y'all There is a way to set up an autoexec.bat kindof thing in Debian, based on each user... in the users home directory, edit the .bash_profile This works if you are using the bash shell. HTH, Brant Christian Dysthe wrote: Hi, I had the same problem. See the thread Where is /etc/rc.d/rc.local on Debian in this mailing list a couple of days ago. No, there isn't any autoexec.bat in Linux. You will have to put stuff you want to start in etc/init.d and then update the boot scripts so that your additions also get included for the different runlevels. Again, there is a lot of information in that thread I mentioned regarding this. It was no is no simple task for a Linux newbie like me to grasp the boot system of Linux, but I did get what I needed to run running. On 02-Apr-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nuno Donato dixit: I really need sme help here. If you can, please help me. I want to know if there is a kind of autoexec.bat file in Linux, so that each times it boots, it automatically executes some commands. I need this because I have downloaded Blender(3d Software), and i must install symbolic links. But because I don't know how to do this before running Blender I need to execute a LARGE command. Do you know how ot install symbolic links? You don't install symbolic links, you create them ... do `man ln' for more information (`ln -s' will create a symlink). As for an autoexec.bat, not sure, I guess it depends on what you want to do, but mostly /etc/profile, or ~/.bash_profile, ... Regards Horacio -- Claves - GnuPG/PGP - Keys : http://www.rediris.es/cert/keyserver o/or Envía un mensaje vacío a [EMAIL PROTECTED] con la línea de asunto: Send a blank message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject line: Tipo de Clave/Key TypeAsunto:/Subject: DSA/ElGamal fetch dsa/elgamal DSS/Diffie-Hellmanfetch dh/dss RSA fetch rsa -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --- Regards, Christian Dysthe Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 02-Apr-99 Time: 18:00:26 UIN: 3945810 This message was sent by XFmail Powered by Debian GNU/Linux --- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
Folks, Once, there was a purpose to the thread given in the subject line, and I am most grateful to the many people who made relevant comments on my original query about the availability of user-desirable software for Linux. I shall collate these and pass them on; also, it would be seemly to summarise to the list in due course. Meanwhile, it seems to have branched out into other topics, such as the details of IRC and what to do about long email attachments, etc. I have no objection to that either, but would be obliged if such discussion could continue under different subject lines. Best wishes to all, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 03-Apr-99 Time: 16:04:38 -- XFMail --
Re: Disk usage utility?
Hi Chris, Maybe lsof can help you. It gives a list of open files. There is a debian package for lsof. Unfortunately it is kernel dependent. The slink version only works for 2.0.35. Greetings, Christian van Enckevort
Partitions and install problem
Hi, When I installed hamm some time ago, I had the following problem: apparently, dselect downloads everything before installing. Having only one partition, and not too big (400Mb), at some point, it ran out of space, and I just couldn't do anything anymore. Luckily, I had some free space on the old DOS partition, which I reduced and added a new partition, and I forced dselect to download its stuff on there. It worked! I just decided to re-install a whole new slink from scratch, and since I am doing that, I might as well re-partition the HD. Now, I have about 600Mb total, and I would like to keep it all in one big partition (just because it's kinda more flexible.. I don't know how much space users are gonna need and stuff...), but I'm afraid the same problem might happen. Does anybody know if the new installer is being more clever about this, and if not, what is the right strategy. Am I being crazy or immoral wanting only one partition? most Faqs and docs I read about it say you should always make a few partitions. Is there a tool for unix fs which allows to re-partition without destroying everything (reducing a big one safely)? Thanks a lot, Stefan.
GNOME query
I'm just experimenting with GNOME -- I've never tried it before. I downloaded some of the packages from the staging area. Query: how do I start it? I ran panel and got a nice panel. Later I ran gnome-session, which told me that panel was already running and asked if I want another. I restarted everything and just ran gnome-session, and eventually I get a solid colour background and gnome-help but no panel. What's the best window manager to use to? I installed enlightment (never used this before either!) and all I get from it is a bar up the top. No default configuration? Strange. My xinitrc so far says #!/bin/bash export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin enlightenment gnome-session xterm Please help me make this do something useful. :-) thanks, Hamish (diehard fvwm2 user) -- Hamish Moffatt VK3TYD. CCs of replies from mailing lists are welcome.
Re: GNOME query
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 02:25:15 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Query: how do I start it? I ran panel and got a nice panel. Later I ran gnome-session, which told me that panel was already running and asked if I want another. Gnome, uhm, isn't really started. It is a collection of libraries and an API which Gnome compliant programs use to share information. To see Gnome in action you'll most likely need to get some of the Gnome utilities. What's the best window manager to use to? I installed enlightment (never used this before either!) and all I get from it is a bar up the top. No default configuration? Strange. Personally, I prefer icewm-gnome. YMMV, however. Enlightenment is nice and flashy, but over X/VNC to my Winbox it is too slow to really be useful. Please help me make this do something useful. :-) Get some of the Gnome programs, best advice I think anyone can give you. Uhm, in dslect (dunno if you use that) look for anything which has gnome- at the start. Not quite sure how to do that with dpkg or apt. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNwZCrXpf7K2LbpnFEQIWJACdGjkEQPD9KWbKDLFXxsMTuoD+m/cAoOEt q6U2Xv7cqOsrqWd1txBZmL/b =F9K5 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Disk usage utility?
Christian van Enckevort wrote: Maybe lsof can help you. It gives a list of open files. There is a debian package for lsof. Unfortunately it is kernel dependent. The slink version only works for 2.0.35. That is not true. The slink version for example also works on a 2.0.36 kernel. However, you *will* get a warning, but it works fine. Of course it won't if certain kernel API's are going to change, but that isn't likely in the 2.0.3x range, I'd say. bye, -Remco
Re: Script to check whether modem telephone line in use --- how?
Hamish writes: Perhaps your modem is not reporting NO DIALTONE -- make sure you have set ATX4 or so (assuming Rockwell-based modem). Or perhaps it is reporting NO DIAL TONE, in which case you need to put ABORT NO DIAL TONE in your /etc/chatscripts/provider file. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Help with cdwriting
On Fri, 26 Mar 1999, Dietmar Schultz wrote: when I want cdrecord to do some writing on my Yamaha CDR 102 it complains: Cdrecord release 1.6 Copyright (C) 1995-1998 Jörg Schilling cdrecord: Function not implemented. shmget failed Urghh, IPC wasn't compiled in the actual kernel I'm using. Thanks to strace for figuring this out. Sorry for that! Tschau, Dietmar
top like drive usage utility?
Hello everyone, Our drives have occasionally been going nuts with disk access. They would for no reason just start reading the disk and go solid for 10 minutes. Is there a utility like top to check for who or what is accessing the disks? Thanks, Chris * Chris Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] !!! HELP FIGHT SPAM !!! Join; www.cauce.org See; spam.abuse.net, spamsucks.com, www.cm.org
Re: GNOME query
Does icewm-gnome offer anything that icewm doesn't? I like icewm primarily for it's simplicity and apparent low resource usage. Is the gnome version just built using the gnome libraries? Thanks, G.S. --- Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 02:25:15 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: Query: how do I start it? I ran panel and got a nice panel. Later I ran gnome-session, which told me that panel was already running and asked if I want another. Gnome, uhm, isn't really started. It is a collection of libraries and an API which Gnome compliant programs use to share information. To see Gnome in action you'll most likely need to get some of the Gnome utilities. What's the best window manager to use to? I installed enlightment (never used this before either!) and all I get from it is a bar up the top. No default configuration? Strange. Personally, I prefer icewm-gnome. YMMV, however. Enlightenment is nice and flashy, but over X/VNC to my Winbox it is too slow to really be useful. Please help me make this do something useful. :-) Get some of the Gnome programs, best advice I think anyone can give you. Uhm, in dslect (dunno if you use that) look for anything which has gnome- at the start. Not quite sure how to do that with dpkg or apt. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNwZCrXpf7K2LbpnFEQIWJACdGjkEQPD9KWbKDLFXxsMTuoD+m/cAoOEt q6U2Xv7cqOsrqWd1txBZmL/b =F9K5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Linux Today article
Looks like our own Havoc Pennington has an article featured on Linux Today... http://linuxtoday.com/stories/4604.html
fs type iso9660 not supported by kernel
I am trying to install hamm and get this message from dselect or when I want to mount the cdrom. I did install a cdrom as a device and did not see iso9660 as an option amongst the filesystems during the installation process. Can somebody help me please? It is not the first time I install Linux from this CD, but it is the first time I get this error. Johann. -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it.I Corinthians 10:13
Install - which device drivers?
Hi again, Ok, I'm installing slink right now, and I'm currently in the part where you install device drivers. Now, How do you know which are the ones you need? most of them have only one short line of explaination, (one even just has a '.'), and several seem to do the same thing. Is ther eany place where I can read more about them to help me make those choices? (usually, I just pick random stuff, and it seems to work, but I don't think it's the best method) Thanks a lot, Stefan
Re: Partitions and install problem
Am I being crazy or immoral wanting only one partition? most Faqs and docs I read about it say you should always make a few partitions. Using multiple partitions gives you a great deal of flexibility. One can easily add new stuff and reuse the old partitions for something else. You also gain a measure of stability -- if one of your partitions gets corrupted or suffers some catastrophic error you lose only a partition and not the whole system. But with that said, no, you're not crazy. I've installed newbies' machines and more or less dedicated machines on one large partition... There are tools to let you repartition -- partition magic being the most famous of them. As far as repartitioning without losing data and having a meaure of safety, good luck. :-) -- Regards, | Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org - More software than . | *any* distribution, rock solid reliability, quality control, Randy | seamless upgrades via ftp or CD-ROM, strict filesystem layout | and adherence to standards, and militantly 100% FREE Linux!
Re: Newbie Questions
--- Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --snip-- .xinitrc is used if you start X with 'startx' and .xession if you run xdm. This can't be right, as I use startx and .xsession. Right, I use startx and I don't even have an .xinitrc. I did do a custom .xsession though. Regards, G.S. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel
On 03-Apr-99 Randy Edwards wrote: look for /dev/audio... if it's not there run /dev/MAKEDEV audio Yes, I already have a audio device: crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 4 Apr 1 18:18 /dev/audio (I added the other r/w perms myself) Still no noise though. I'm thinking that I need something else in the kernel configuration (I've never played with the sound settings). Right now the only thing I have in the kernel configuration is Ensoniq AudioPCI (ES1370) flagged as asterisk to compile it right in. The compile goes fine, it's just that I get no sound. Do I need any of the OSS sound modules with this card? no, dont need to load oss driver, just the es1370 what do you get at boot? send the output of dmesg (just the part related to es1370) send the output of /dev/sndstat Benoit
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The problem of (huge) attachments or huge mails in general is, that the recipient often never asked to get it, but the sender sended it without being asked to do. Hamish In the case of mailing lists, I agree. In the case of other mail, Hamish this is not my experience at all. I get from time to time mails from friends and even from people i don't know with attachments some times greater than 1MB. And i'm always very angry about it, cause i do pay for my telphone connection (4 minutes costs me 12 german Pfennige, about 0,07US$). And none of these persons asked me, if i'm interested in the picture, large text, animation or the like. And never asked i someone of these to send me that thing. I talked to much other users and i often get excatly that complaint. And this has nothing to do with mailinglists. But if you are so happy about big emails, what about sending you the X11 sources? Without asking you about sending it. Will you be happy about that? The question is: What is big and what is too big? Everybody i can think of will get angry if i send him/her the X11 sources without being asked to do so. So X11 sources are clearly too big. What about a 50MB animation? What about a 5MB picture? What about a 100KB text? Do you get the point? To send emails bigger than about 40-80KB without being asked to do so and without asking the recipient is not very nice and i would call it an offence. -- Until the next mail..., Stefan.
Good MP3 encoder
Does anyone know of a good MP3 encoder for linux? I have an old copy of 8hz-mp3, but it takes like 10hrs to rip and encode a cd. I'd prefer an open source encoder, but am not opposed to a commercial one. I just want to get one that is fast. TIA, chris
Re: GNOME query
On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Steve Lamb wrote: What's the best window manager to use to? I installed enlightment (never used this before either!) and all I get from it is a bar up the top. No default configuration? Strange. Personally, I prefer icewm-gnome. YMMV, however. Enlightenment is nice and flashy, but over X/VNC to my Winbox it is too slow to really be useful. I just installed GNOME and use it with fvwm2, and it seems to work nicely, but I haven't tried it with others yet. Am I missing out on anything? Is this a particularly bad choice? - Bill
network interface
Hi, When I played with redhat, it has netcfg to create and config a network interface, does anyone know if there is a software in debian to do the same thing? Or how can I create a network interface and activate it? Thanks! Jianbo
Re: SB 128 PCI w/2.1 kernel
no, dont need to load oss driver, just the es1370 That's what I thought after reading the kernel es1370 docs; good. Right now I've got the driver compiled straight into the kernel (not as a module). what do you get at boot? Things look fine. Dmesg tells me: es1370: version v0.17 time 19:20:41 Apr 2 1999 es1370: found adapter at io 0xe800 irq 5 es1370: features: joystick off, line in, mic impedance 0 send the output of /dev/sndstat Interesting, how do I get anything out of it? I've got the device listed as: crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 6 Apr 3 08:18 /dev/sndstat and if I try to cat it as root I just get a No such device. -- Regards, | Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org - More software than . | *any* distribution, rock solid reliability, quality control, Randy | seamless upgrades via ftp or CD-ROM, strict filesystem layout | and adherence to standards, and militantly 100% FREE Linux!
