Re: ping

2014-08-16 Thread alex
ping pong El dv 19 setembre ó el dss 20 setembre és el dia de la llibertat de programari Fem alguna cosa? Ens trobem ni que sigui per fer una cervessa i menjar unes pizzes? Teniem 96 mitjanes DAMM guardades a l'Ateneu Rosa de Foc, al barri de Gràcia Les cervesses ja no hi son, però ens

Re: instabilité système actuel

2014-08-16 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
’jour, Le vendredi 15 août 2014, 21:49:20 nicolas.patr...@gmail.com a écrit : […] Je n’ai pas trouvé de documentation claire et précise pour que Lilo puisse lancer systemd. Quelqu’un a ça ? Le gestionnaire de démarrage (lilo, grub, etc.) ne lance pas init. C’est le noyau qui lance init.

Re : instabilité système actuel

2014-08-16 Thread nicolas . patrois
Le 16/08/2014 12:57:47, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit : Par défaut, init est /sbin/init, pour changer, on passe init=/truc/machin comme paramètre _du noyau_. Donc, pour lilo, une ligne append=init=/truc/machin devrait le faire. Mais je ne vois pas vraiment une raison de le faire puisque

Re: instabilité système actuel

2014-08-16 Thread Stéphane GARGOLY
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Le samedi 16 août 2014 à 10:57, Sylvain L. Sauvage sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr a écrit : Par défaut, init est /sbin/init, pour changer, on passe init=/truc/machin comme paramètre _du noyau_. Donc, pour lilo, une ligne

Re: instabilité système actuel

2014-08-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Stéphane GARGOLY a écrit : Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Le samedi 16 août 2014 à 10:57, Sylvain L. Sauvage sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr a écrit : Par défaut, init est /sbin/init, pour changer, on passe init=/truc/machin comme paramètre _du noyau_. Donc, pour

Terminology-0.6.1

2014-08-16 Thread maderios
Bonjour Le paquet Terminology-0.6.1, le terminal d'E17, E18 et E19, est indisponible dans Debian alors que l'on peut installer E17 et les EFL d'Enlightenment. Terminal révolutionnaire (il affiche les fichiers, les images, les vidéo!) pourtant très stable et compilable avec les bibliothèques

Re: Google music manager et problème de réseau (dnet suspecté)

2014-08-16 Thread Guillaume
Bonsoir, Quel est le rapport entre google, de la musique et une adresse MAC ? -- Guillaume Le 15/08/2014 09:28, nicolas.patr...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, J’essaie en vain de faire fonctionner google music manager. J’obtiens invariablement l’erreur précisant qu’il n’identifie pas mon pécé.

[testing] Lenovo T420 et autonomie

2014-08-16 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Bonjour, J'ai un Lenovo T420 avec une batterie 9 éléments, mais malgré cela j'ai une autonomie faible (environ 3h). Si je regarde la jauge de Gnome en 3 niveaux, elle reste longtemps sur le premier mais ensuite dès que l'on passe sur le 2e niveau tout s'accélère et à la fin je passe de 15% à 5%

Re: ¿Cómo obtener info del sistema luego de un cuelgue y rebooteo?

2014-08-16 Thread Usuario Lista
El día 16 de agosto de 2014, 3:10, Rivera Valdez riveravaldezm...@gmail.com escribió: Qué tal, tengo una máquina vieja corriendo Debian Testing, y desde hace un tiempo se cuelga maś o menos aleatoriamente (típicamente una vez al día, cuando no hay nadie usándola directamente), si el monitor

Re: ¿Cómo obtener info del sistema luego de un cuelgue y rebooteo?

2014-08-16 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:10:04 -0300, Rivera Valdez escribió: Qué tal, Hola, recuerda que hay que desactivar el formato html en los mensajes que se mandan a la lista. tengo una máquina vieja corriendo Debian Testing, y desde hace un tiempo se cuelga maś o menos aleatoriamente (típicamente una

Re: OT Problemas con VirtualBox

2014-08-16 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 15 Aug 2014 23:47:15 +0100, José Manuel (EB8CXW) escribió: El 15/08/14 15:28, Camaleón escribió: (...) Bien, como parece que ya tienes algunos de estos paquetes instalados, antes de nada vamos a ver cuáles son y de qué versiones se trata. Ejecuta este comando y manda la salida:

Re: ¿Cómo obtener info del sistema luego de un cuelgue y rebooteo?

2014-08-16 Thread Juan Lavieri
Hola El 15/08/14 20:40, Rivera Valdez escribió: Qué tal, tengo una máquina vieja corriendo Debian Testing, y desde hace un tiempo se cuelga maś o menos aleatoriamente (típicamente una vez al día, cuando no hay nadie usándola directamente), si el monitor está encendido el escritorio queda

Re: Debian på G+ ?

2014-08-16 Thread Anders Jackson
Debian har beslutat att inte använda Google eller Facebook. De är inte fria produkter. Svårare är det inte. Det hindrar inte andra från att ha grupper som stödjer Debian på dessa forum. /Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Vart har eventet flyttat?

2014-08-16 Thread Per Andersson
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Philip Lundqvist phi...@osterlenswebbyra.se wrote: Vilka datum äger detta event rum, och i vilken stad? Det var igår som Debian Day firades i Kista, Stockholm. -- Per -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Debian Day in Stockholm

2014-08-16 Thread Per Andersson
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Alexander Bessman alexan...@bessman.se wrote: Jag kommer (hej förresten, jag är ny på listan), men inte förrän framåt 18. Hej Alex, välkommen till listan och kul att ses igår! -- Per -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org

Svensk och nordisk Debiangemenskap

2014-08-16 Thread Per Andersson
(Svarar Mattias A här på debian-user-swedish, från memb...@lists.fripost.org.) Jag är med på Debian-listan och ville försöka komma idag till Kista men hade ont om tid! Hur var det? Det var jättekul! Någon nämnde intresse om att starta svenskt Debian-gemenskap? :) Japp! Vi pratade om det

Re: Debian Day in Stockholm

2014-08-16 Thread Alexander Bessman
On Sat, 2014-08-16 at 10:27 +0200, Per Andersson wrote: On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Alexander Bessman alexan...@bessman.se wrote: Jag kommer (hej förresten, jag är ny på listan), men inte förrän framåt 18. Hej Alex, välkommen till listan och kul att ses igår! -- Per Detsamma!

Re: Debian Day in Stockholm

2014-08-16 Thread Martin Jernberg
Hejsan, det var trevligt och ses igår och grattis till 21år https://bits.debian.org/2014/08/20-birthday-debian.html?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitterutm_campaign=bits.debian.org Vi får ta och ses till Jessie releasen eller tidigare än så alltid trevligt o umgås med Linuxfolk :) On

Re: Debian Day in Stockholm

2014-08-16 Thread Helio Loureiro
Hi, Photos from Debian day: https://www.flickr.com/gp/helioloureiro/U60zm1 Very nice Debian meeting. I enjoyed a lot. And now we can start thinking about next one :-) hero, Helio Loureiro -= sent by Android =- On Aug 16, 2014 1:20 PM, Alexander Bessman alexan...@bessman.se wrote: On Sat,

21 år!

2014-08-16 Thread Rolf Edlund
Grattis Debian på 21 års dagen ! En gång i tiden var det en myndighets ålder. -- /Rolf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: 21 år!

2014-08-16 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 16 Aug 2014 15:25 +0200, from rolfew...@gmail.com (Rolf Edlund): Grattis Debian på 21 års dagen ! En gång i tiden var det en myndighets ålder. Både Linux och Debian har kommit ganska långt på den tiden... Jag minns min första erfarenhet av Linux. Det var i mitten av 90-talet (tror det var

Nordisk Debianträff på FSCONS, 31 okt - 2 nov

2014-08-16 Thread Per Andersson
Hej! Det har börjat tisslas och tasslas om en nordisk Debianträff på FSCONS senare i höst. På debian-project@l.d.o finns den ursprungliga skrivelsen till Debianprojektet och Debianutvecklare i norden. [0] På Debianwikin finns en sida för saker som händer i norden. [1] Det finns lite kort

Re: 21 år!

2014-08-16 Thread jan
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 14:08:36 + Michael Kjörling mich...@kjorling.se wrote: On 16 Aug 2014 15:25 +0200, from rolfew...@gmail.com (Rolf Edlund): Grattis Debian på 21 års dagen ! En gång i tiden var det en myndighets ålder. Både Linux och Debian har kommit ganska långt på den tiden...

Re: 21 år!

2014-08-16 Thread Per Andersson
2014-08-16 16:08 GMT+02:00 Michael Kjörling mich...@kjorling.se: On 16 Aug 2014 15:25 +0200, from rolfew...@gmail.com (Rolf Edlund): [...] Då var det Red Hat 6.2. Nu är det Debian 7. På vägen har det varit både Gentoo, Slackware, SuSE och några andra. Man måste våga prova sig fram. (Och jag

Re: 21 år!

2014-08-16 Thread jan
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 19:34:24 +0200 Per Andersson avtob...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-08-16 16:08 GMT+02:00 Michael Kjörling mich...@kjorling.se: On 16 Aug 2014 15:25 +0200, from rolfew...@gmail.com (Rolf Edlund): [...] Då var det Red Hat 6.2. Nu är det Debian 7. På vägen har det varit både

Re: 21 år!

2014-08-16 Thread Per Andersson
2014-08-16 20:01 GMT+02:00 j...@lillahusetiskogen.se: [...] Udda hårdvara kan vara ett problem, inte oöverstigligt men ändå. I mina ThinkPad X200s tex sitter det ett chip för trådlöst nätverk som inte supportas av installations-CDn. Märkligt, men så är det iallafall. Inget stort problem om

Re: 21 år!

2014-08-16 Thread Staffan Melin (Oscillator)
Jag har installerat från http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ de senaste gångerna. /Staffan 2014-08-17 1:08 GMT+02:00 Per Andersson avtob...@gmail.com: 2014-08-16 20:01 GMT+02:00 j...@lillahusetiskogen.se: [...] Udda hårdvara kan vara ett problem, inte

Re: 21 år!

2014-08-16 Thread jan
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 01:08:52 +0200 Per Andersson avtob...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-08-16 20:01 GMT+02:00 j...@lillahusetiskogen.se: [...] Udda hårdvara kan vara ett problem, inte oöverstigligt men ändå. I mina ThinkPad X200s tex sitter det ett chip för trådlöst nätverk som inte supportas av

Re: 21 år!

2014-08-16 Thread Rolf Edlund
Sorry! Glömde i tröttheten att ända så att mina mail skulle gå till listan istället för privat. Sorry för det. :( -- /Rolf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: 21 år!

2014-08-16 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 16 augusti 2014 16:08 skrev Michael Kjörling mich...@kjorling.se: Grattis Debian på 21 års dagen ! En gång i tiden var det en myndighets ålder. Både Linux och Debian har kommit ganska långt på den tiden... Jo, ibörjan var väl Linux/Debian mer för entasiaster, än för vanliga döda. Jag

Re: 21 år!

2014-08-16 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 16 augusti 2014 16:48 skrev j...@lillahusetiskogen.se: Mitt första äventyr med Linux var Red Hat någon gång i början av 90-talet. Var i London och hittade en bok om RH. Sedan blev det Suse och Mandrake. På min laptop blev det Slackware. Debian kom jag i kontakt med i form av Woody. Efter

Re: 21 år!

2014-08-16 Thread Rolf Edlund
Den 16 augusti 2014 16:48 skrev j...@lillahusetiskogen.se: Mint är i stort sett problemfritt men det är ändå Debian jag gillar bäst. Därför ser jag Mint som ett bättre första val. -- /Rolf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 00:44:31 +0200 david davce...@keyworld.net wrote: I have been bothered by this too. KUser shows this user as nobody whose home directory is /nonexistent and whose login shell is /usr/sbin/nologin. The account on one machine is set as disabled but both my current

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Joe
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:00:08 +0400 Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 00:44:31 +0200 david davce...@keyworld.net wrote: I have been bothered by this too. KUser shows this user as nobody whose home directory is /nonexistent and whose login shell is

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:56:53PM -0400, Stephen L. Novak wrote: I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default interface for jessie too. Your vote has no affect whatsoever on what the default DE will be. The only way you can influence the decision is to install

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Reco
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:17:50 +0100 Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote: I have /usr/sbin/nologin also. This is up-to-date sid with systemd, which may not have the same defaults as previous distributions. Curious. And what shell do they set now for users with uid 100? I've checked more-or-less

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 16.08.2014 11:36, schrieb Reco: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:17:50 +0100 Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote: I have /usr/sbin/nologin also. This is up-to-date sid with systemd, which may not have the same defaults as previous distributions. Curious. And what shell do they set now for users with

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Reco
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:51:28 +0200 Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: base-passwd (3.5.30) unstable; urgency=medium [ Colin Watson ] .. * Change the shell of all global static users other than root (which retains /bin/sh) and sync (as /bin/sync is rather harmless) to

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: Am 16.08.2014 11:36, schrieb Reco: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:17:50 +0100 Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote: I have /usr/sbin/nologin also. This is up-to-date sid with systemd, which may not have the same defaults as previous

Re: Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread david
I.m starting to get the picture but we have moved away from what I think was the prime motive for this trhead to be started. User 65534 is causing a frustrating 90 - 120 second delay during shutdown. That's 6 to 9 hrs a year! Can this delay be eliminated? After all it did not used to happen

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:17:50 +0100 Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote: I have /usr/sbin/nologin also. This is up-to-date sid with systemd, which may not have the same defaults as previous distributions. Curious. And what shell do

Jessie won't install

2014-08-16 Thread Diogene Laerce
Hi, Jessie (last testing version) does not want to install in a VM. It just get stucked at select and install software with installation failed you can skip it and choose something else if you want. Anybody had the same issue and solved it ? Thank you, -- “One original thought is worth a

Re: Jessie won't install

2014-08-16 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 02:24:53PM +0200, Diogene Laerce wrote: Jessie (last testing version) does not want to install in a VM. It just get stucked If it regards Jessie, probably debian-testing [1] is a better place where to post it. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/ -- To

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread John Hasler
david writes: User 65534 is causing a frustrating 90 - 120 second delay during shutdown. Some process that happens to be running as nobody is failing to exit when instructed to do so. Systemd is waiting patiently for 90 seconds before sending it a kill -9. You need to either find that process

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread AW
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:59:24 +0200 david davce...@keyworld.net wrote: Can this delay be eliminated? After all it did not used to happen before systemd was implemented. OP is running Sid. So there are problems with stability in the unstable version of Debian... and? ... Oh well. ps -u

Re: Render lag/delay on Testing

2014-08-16 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Jonas Lippuner wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Debian users, Ever since the xserver on Debian Testing was upgraded to 1.16 (and after the issue with the lacking Nvidia driver was fixed), I've been having rendering issues. Sometimes (it randomly comes and goes), some

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default interface for jessie too. Also, I would vote change the default highlighter for some of the default menus in the new Xfce to a brighter color. Thanks for all

Re: Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 7:59 PM, david davce...@keyworld.net wrote: I.m starting to get the picture but we have moved away from what I think was the prime motive for this trhead to be started. User 65534 is causing a frustrating 90 - 120 second delay during shutdown. That's 6 to 9 hrs a year!

Re: FW: hp server hardware monitoring

2014-08-16 Thread Florian Ernst
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 09:30:24PM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: [...] My apologies, I forgot that you need a newer version of cciss_vol_status than present in Squeeze/Wheezy. For that I had imported 1.10-1 into our local repository, which works just fine without any adjustments /

Busybox: compile statically?

2014-08-16 Thread antispammbox-debian
Hi all How to compile busybox in static mode, adding some utility different from the usual, -dd, cat, other,... -, example, partimage, with all the dependencies, compress it, and install on a usb stick? Thanks Regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Gary Dale
On 16/08/14 11:00 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default interface for jessie too. Also, I would vote change the default highlighter for some of the default menus in the new

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default interface for jessie too. Also, I would vote change the default

make apt-get install $PKG work like gentoo?

2014-08-16 Thread Zenaan Harkness
I've never used gentoo sorry. I'm wondering if apt-get install could be set up to compile from source and install that (sort of automatically), rather than install the binary? Due to admining a number of machines for a small non profit human rights association (and a few personal boxen for

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 16/08/14 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: I've never been a fan of Gnome although this stems mainly from my preference for Konqueror and Dolphin as file managers. They both have options that I find very helpful, like actually listing the files you are about to delete instead of just telling you how

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 16.08.2014 17:00, schrieb Stephen Powell: On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default interface for jessie too. Also, I would vote change the default highlighter for some of the default menus in the

Re: make apt-get install $PKG work like gentoo?

2014-08-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 03:00:59 +1000 Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: I'm wondering if apt-get install could be set up to compile from source and install that (sort of automatically), rather than install the binary? apt-get, to my best knowledge, can not be used for this. There's

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:03:54 -0400 (EDT), Michael Biebl wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: My main objection to GNOME as the default desktop environment is that it *requires* 3D graphics acceleration from the X driver, ... Not quite true. On graphics

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Joe
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:49:23 -0400 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Martin Read
On 16/08/14 17:49, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: My main objection to GNOME as the default desktop environment is that it *requires* 3D graphics acceleration from the X driver, something which is not available from all

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread John Holland
Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option in the installer. On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:03:54 -0400 (EDT), Michael Biebl wrote: On Sat, 16

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 19:01:40 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 16/08/14 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: The installer, to my way of thinking, should either go with the most popular choice or give you the choice of desktop environments as part of the install process. I'm fully in

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 14:14:01 -0400, John Holland wrote: Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option in the installer. fvwm is wonderful, but not likely to make it into d-i. Back in 1996 it was a default (on Red Hat at

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 August 2014 18:01:40 Tony van der Hoff wrote: Anyway, I think the installer should offer *all* the DEs. *All*, including Mate and Cinnamon and Trinity and Unity, in addition to Gnome, KDE, LXDE, Xfce, and . etc. ?? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 August 2014 19:14:01 John Holland wrote: Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option in the installer. Sorry, I left that one out. It was in the etc.! I knew that I had not got a complete list. But the

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 August 2014 20:24:31 Brian wrote: On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 14:14:01 -0400, John Holland wrote: Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option in the installer. fvwm is wonderful, but not likely to make it into

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Gary Dale
On 16/08/14 02:56 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 19:01:40 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 16/08/14 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: The installer, to my way of thinking, should either go with the most popular choice or give you the choice of desktop environments as part of the install

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 17:27:27 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: On 16/08/14 02:56 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 19:01:40 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 16/08/14 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: The installer, to my way of thinking, should either go with the most popular choice or give you the

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Joe
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 21:39:03 +0100 Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote: This is a can of worms, and I hereby abandon it. OK, I lied. I was bored... A little further on... journald *has* been keeping persistent journals, but with different user permissions, now root:systemd-journal 640.

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 21:32:23 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2014 20:24:31 Brian wrote: On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 14:14:01 -0400, John Holland wrote: Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option in the

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Joe
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:57:17 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 21:32:23 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 16 August 2014 20:24:31 Brian wrote: On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 14:14:01 -0400, John Holland wrote: Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 16.08.2014 23:54, schrieb Joe: Aug 16 00:02:03 jresid systemd[2913]: systemd-exit.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=200/CHDIR Aug 16 00:02:03 jresid systemd[2913]: Failed to start Exit the Session. Apparently that service failed with exit code 200 / CHDIR.

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 21:32:23 +0100 Lisi Reisz sent: Here's an idea: Why not give users a choice (if they want it) after they have installed the OS? Or even before? Installation of a desktop environment shouldn't be obligatory. It isn't. Lisi That's also what I thought? But I assume

Re: New 64-bit Install: Wine

2014-08-16 Thread Floris
What wine packages do you have installed? wine wine64 wine32:i386 Tried that. I do not know about the firefox setup but no .exe's I had around would take. I also go rid of the ~/.wine. Wine-cfg also barked. Just to be sure you have a clean environment, you might want to try

Re: systemd fails to poweroff - A stop job is running for Session 2 of user $USER

2014-08-16 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140814_1035-0400, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: In English, both 'stop job' and 'stopped job' are an adjective modifying a noun. The noun in both cases is 'job'. 'stop job' is a noun phrase expressing a type of job, and

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2014-08-16 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 2014-08-14 om 12:15 schreef Paul van der Vlis: op 13-08-14 18:55, Geert Stappers schreef: Op 2014-08-13 om 18:02 schreef Paul van der Vlis: op 13-08-14 13:14, Geert Stappers schreef: knip/ In de post install staat bij 'configure' unset DISPLAY # No GUI launched from