Re: installation mode OEM

2023-12-07 Thread Alban Vidal
Bonjour David, Je me permet de transférer ce courriel à l'adresse des utilisateurs francophones qui comporte de nombreux abonnés et qui est plus adapté pour ce type de sujet. En effet, la liste de l'association Debian-France est plus liée aux activités de l'association (soutien au projet,

Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/12/2023 08:49, gene heskett wrote: I've now set a root pw, about 34 chars, so they'll be a couple eons guessing it AND (horrors) have written it down. Consider pass phrases. Deep Dive: EFF's New Wordlists for

Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-07 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > AND (horrors) have written it down. That's the right thing to do. -- John Hasler j...@sugarbit.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-07 Thread John Hasler
Greg writes: > And you should either *use* it once in a while, so you don't forget > what it is, or else make it the same as your regular account's > password. Write the damn thing down. The world won't end. -- John "Write all your passwords down. It isn't 1980 anymore." Hasler

Re: Local time in databases (Re: ntpsec as server questions)

2023-12-07 Thread tomas
On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 10:18:44PM -0600, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: [...] > All of these considerations are what brought Oracle to create a proprietary > "datetime" datatype and use it to store all "real" dates/times. If you need > a different format for display purposes or a human readable

Re: Local time in databases (Re: ntpsec as server questions)

2023-12-07 Thread tomas
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 09:11:12AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 07/12/2023 23:08, tomas wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 10:29:29PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > > > On 07/12/2023 21:22, John Hasler wrote: > > > > Databases should never store local time. > > > > > > There are exceptions when

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-07 Thread gene heskett
On 12/7/23 22:08, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 09:38:43AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: - IANA TZ DB does not support timezones disappeared before 1970. Ohhh, *this* is the kind of reference I've been looking for. So, we

Re: Local time in databases (Re: ntpsec as server questions)

2023-12-07 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Thu, Dec 7, 2023, 8:11 PM Max Nikulin wrote: > On 07/12/2023 23:08, tomas wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 10:29:29PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > >> On 07/12/2023 21:22, John Hasler wrote: > >>> Databases should never store local time. > >> > >> There are exceptions when storing UTC instead

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 09:38:43AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > - IANA TZ DB does not support timezones disappeared before 1970. > Ohhh, *this* is the kind of reference I've been looking for. So, we simply acknowledge that historical clock

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 07/12/2023 06:11, Pocket wrote: Because DST was not in force/usage except the metro NYC. Every where else didn't use/have it. That makes EST5DST correct except for NYC and America/New_York completely incorrect except of course NYC. Which is why I prefer to use EST5DST It may be a

Re: Local time in databases (Re: ntpsec as server questions)

2023-12-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 07/12/2023 23:08, tomas wrote: On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 10:29:29PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: On 07/12/2023 21:22, John Hasler wrote: Databases should never store local time. There are exceptions when storing UTC instead of local time leads to undesired consequences. Heh. There was one

Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-07 Thread gene heskett
On 12/7/23 20:24, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 08:06:52PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: Thats bug #1. Single for rescue demands a root pw. This isn't a bug. It's just how things *are*. People who choose not to set a root password are simply setting themselves up for this

Re: debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 08:06:52PM -0500, gene heskett wrote: > Thats bug #1. Single for rescue demands a root pw. This isn't a bug. It's just how things *are*. People who choose not to set a root password are simply setting themselves up for this failure. It *will* happen eventually. I

debian forgot usr pw

2023-12-07 Thread gene heskett
I had a 3d slicer I was quitting to restart it and re-organish its caxhe, took my machine to a lockup showing half a workspace on one half the screen and half an adjacent workspace on the other half of the screen, no responce to the keyboard and no mouse. 28 days uptime which was better than

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-07 Thread Albretch Mueller
Hopefully finally! We should brainstorm our initial thoughts about it there and once we could envision some completion and continuing hope to it, we can move it into a formal github open source project: https://ergosumus.wordpress.com/2023/12/07/tog-linux-first-draft-of-a-rfc/ lbrtchx

Re: Memoria Intel Optane Debian 12

2023-12-07 Thread Gabo
El jue, 7 de dic de 2023, 12:02, Camaleón escribió: > El 2023-12-06 a las 20:48 -0500, Gabo escribió: > > > Quería saber si es posible utilizar o configurar la memoria Intel Optane > de > > un laptop acer al cual le instalé Debian 12. > > > > Se supone que esa memoria sirve para acelerar el

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-07 Thread John Hasler
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > UDM Pro runs Debian 11 (bullseye) I have a Ubiquiti router. Before I installed OpenWRT I explored the OS. It uses packages from Bullseye but it is certainly not Debian. You couldn't find that file because it isn't there. -- John Hasler

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-07 Thread jeremy ardley
On 7/12/23 23:52, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Subject: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye) You should confirm that the device is actually using that file. There are at least three different network configuration

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-07 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:52:20PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > UDM Pro runs Debian 11 (bullseye) I don't think it does. Just because you found a file on the filesystem that says it does, is as trustworthy as the claims in your email that your client is called Henry

Re: Backup système

2023-12-07 Thread benoit
Le mardi 5 décembre 2023 à 18:18, jafiv a écrit : > TimeShift, idem en graphique J'utilise TimeShift, pour mon usage personnel, c'est super facile et j'ai déjà eu besoin de restaurer mon système, ça s'est très bien passé ! Benoit >

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-07 Thread Dan Purgert
On Dec 07, 2023, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:52:20PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming > wrote: > > [...] > > > Problem > > = > > > > On 6 Dec 2023, our client discovered that their UDM Pro could not perform > > firmware updates automatically. Their UDM

Re: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-07 Thread tomas
On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:52:20PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: [...] > Problem > = > > On 6 Dec 2023, our client discovered that their UDM Pro could not perform > firmware updates automatically. Their UDM Pro was running UniFi OS version > 3.0.20. Client wants to

Re: Local time in databases (Re: ntpsec as server questions)

2023-12-07 Thread tomas
On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 10:29:29PM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > On 07/12/2023 21:22, John Hasler wrote: > > Databases should never store local time. > > I am anticipating a new branch of hot discussion. > > There are exceptions when storing UTC instead of local time leads to > undesired

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-07 Thread Albretch Mueller
BTW, except for the GRUB/boot loading phase and its possible useful aspects relating to ToG-L (which I haven't found the time to study), I would say that 80%+ of the whole project I have already implemented with my lousy bash scripts skills and in java/GRAALVM as a first "proof of concept" and of

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-07 Thread David Wright
On Thu 07 Dec 2023 at 09:37:29 (-0500), Pocket wrote: > On 12/7/23 09:22, John Hasler wrote: > > Greg writes: > > > You'd think that you can determine the length of the test by > > > subtracting the start time from the end time, right? > > That would have worked had the times been stored as UTC

Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye)

2023-12-07 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Subject: Could not find interfaces configuration file /etc/network/interfaces in Debian Linux 11 (bullseye) Good day from Singapore, Background Information === Initially our client has a UniFi Dream Machine Pro (UDM Pro) acting as a firewall and router. Port 9 (WAN1) on

Local time in databases (Re: ntpsec as server questions)

2023-12-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 07/12/2023 21:22, John Hasler wrote: Databases should never store local time. I am anticipating a new branch of hot discussion. There are exceptions when storing UTC instead of local time leads to undesired consequences. Planned (future) events may be bound namely to local time. So if

Re: Memoria Intel Optane Debian 12

2023-12-07 Thread Camaleón
El 2023-12-06 a las 20:48 -0500, Gabo escribió: > Quería saber si es posible utilizar o configurar la memoria Intel Optane de > un laptop acer al cual le instalé Debian 12. > > Se supone que esa memoria sirve para acelerar el computador. Esto es > posible para debian 12? Si tienes un sistema

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-07 Thread Pocket
On 12/7/23 09:22, John Hasler wrote: Greg writes: You'd think that you can determine the length of the test by subtracting the start time from the end time, right? That would have worked had the times been stored as UTC (better yet, TAI or Unix time since UTC can cause a similar problem).

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-07 Thread John Hasler
Greg writes: > You'd think that you can determine the length of the test by > subtracting the start time from the end time, right? That would have worked had the times been stored as UTC (better yet, TAI or Unix time since UTC can cause a similar problem). Databases should never store local

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-07 Thread Pocket
On 12/7/23 07:16, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 11:46:50PM -0600, David Wright wrote: On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 18:16:42 (-0500), Pocket wrote: Which BTW this whole discussion about timezones is just water over the dam. The system should be set to UTC, the "timezone" issue is

Re: ntpsec as server questions

2023-12-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Dec 06, 2023 at 11:46:50PM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 06 Dec 2023 at 18:16:42 (-0500), Pocket wrote: > > Which BTW this whole discussion about timezones is just water over the dam. > > > > The system should be set to UTC, the "timezone" issue is really just a > > "human" issue as

Re: Compilation d'un module du kernel dans Debian 12 stable [RÉSOLU]

2023-12-07 Thread Jean Bernon
Pour finir, j'ai installé le métapaquet linux-image-amd64 qui a choisi automatiquement d'installer le kernel 6.1.55-1 et tous mes problèmes semblent réglés : wifi et bluetooth fonctionnent sans que j'ai besoin de recompiler quoi que ce soit. Merci de vos précieux conseils. > De: "Jean-Michel

Re: Problem between kernel 6.5.0-5 (testing) and Realtek NICs ?

2023-12-07 Thread Erwan David
Le 06/12/2023 à 16:44, Erwan David a écrit : Le 06/12/2023 à 15:55, Erwan David a écrit : After upgrade to 6.5.0-5 (a 6.5.13 kernel in testing), impossible to use the laptop when Realtek card present (in dock). it boots, sddm works but anything which tries to access networking (even the ip

Re: Compilation d'un module du kernel dans Debian 12 stable

2023-12-07 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA
Bonjour, Le jeudi 07 décembre 2023, Jean Bernon a écrit... > J'ai relu la procédure de mise à jour. Je vois en effet une section > concernant le kernel qui recommande d'installer un paquet linux-image après > le full-upgrade. Mais les commandes dkpg recommandées pour le faire ne >

Re: ToG Linux (first draft of a RFC) ...

2023-12-07 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hello, it's quite interesting that you use a platform such as wordpress, running code you can not control, to discuss such matters. Wouldn't it be more reasonable to self host, using a hoster providing decent privacy and aonymity or a technology such as Tor? Given the amount of time and

Re: Compilation d'un module du kernel dans Debian 12 stable

2023-12-07 Thread Jean Bernon
J'ai relu la procédure de mise à jour. Je vois en effet une section concernant le kernel qui recommande d'installer un paquet linux-image après le full-upgrade. Mais les commandes dkpg recommandées pour le faire ne donnent rien. D'autre part il est dit d'utiliser uname -r pour choisir le

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2023-12-07 Thread Maxwell Atlee
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Re: Backup système

2023-12-07 Thread Erwann Le Bras
j'avais compris que c'était pour pouvoir restaurer une machine entière ; un outil universel en ligne de commande est l'idéal. *Déjà Dup* pourrait t'intéresser. Je ne l'utilise pas, mais il serait dans les dépôts. https://launchpad.net/deja-dup même si plus rien ne fonctionne, il permettrait

Re: Upgrade to 12.3 fails due to missing nvidia firmware package

2023-12-07 Thread Harald Dunkel
On 2023-12-06 17:20:16, Sven Joachim wrote: Maintainer uploads to (old)stable are staged in proposed-updates, so you would have to enable bookworm-proposed-updates to install the new version of firmware-nvidia-gsp. I missed the non-free-firmware for bookworm-updates and