On 14Nov10:1657+1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html
Debian's own Michael Biebl posted the comment to which
Poettering publicly announced this udev roadmap back at
the end of May. How could the assurances udev would
be stay
On 14Nov08:1603+0100, Mart van de Wege wrote:
Quite frankly, I'm disgusted. A developer with a lot of contributions is
chased away by the noise made by a bunch of whiners who can't even be
bothered to set up a test server.
And because some devs want to placate those whiners, we get
On 14Oct23:0004-0400, Charles Kroeger wrote:
Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself?
The code speaks when its execution reveals a need to
run reportbug (or not). When we fail to run reportbug,
we muzzle the code and possibly allow that bug to be
part of the Jessie release.
On 14Oct23:2035+0300, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote:
That's not the point. From the technical point of
view, IMO, you are correct but that's not the only
view that exists in Debian Project, me thinks.
[snip]
My choices reg. my use of technology isn't based
only on technical grounds, you
There is only one way the default init for Jessie can
be changed at this point in time--the Release Team
must conclude systemd will have turned out to be a
release critical nightmare likely well into the feature
freeze. There is only one way for that to happen--lots
of open RC bugs having systemd
On 14Oct16:1151-0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
It strikes me that there's actually very little that needs to be done. In
the short term, the world, including Debian, will continue to support
sysvinit scripts - if only because the BSDs aren't going anywhere, I expect
autotools will continue to
On 14Oct14:0837+1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
On 14/10/2014 8:32 AM, John Hasler wrote:
Andrei POPESCU writes:
Without an accurate count I'd say only about 1% (or less) of the
subscribers are actually participating in these discussion.
1% participation in any discussion on a list
On 14Sep21:0851-0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
* On 2014 21 Sep 08:00 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Maybe systemd will give gnu/hurd, or minix, or plan 9 a boost.
I've been looking at Guix this past week after discovering it almost by
accident:
I've been looking at Plan 9 for almost half a
On 14Sep21:1604+0300, David Baron wrote:
And if a
boot command init=/lib/sysvinit/init will definitely yield a fallback (have
it in my lilo.conf but have not actually needed to tried it), then maybe this
can be laid to rest.
Well, do your due dilligence. On my primary Sid system,
so
On 14Sep21:1544+0100, Martin Read wrote:
Shorter, but incorrect and unsafe. On Debian jessie and later (and thus, by
extension, the current state of Debian sid), /sbin/init means the currently
installed default init system. As such, it is not the correct way to set up
a fallback configuration
On 14Sep21:1618+0100, Brian wrote:
On Sun 21 Sep 2014 at 09:47:32 -0400, David L. Craig wrote:
You didn't accept an upgrade to the new default init system. But you
accepted the new sysvinit package.
Yes, after systemd broke the system as described in
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin
On 14Sep21:1827+0100, Brian wrote:
Apart from using a Beta 1 D-I i386 netinst and installing to a real
machine I did the same as you a couple of days ago. No problems
upgrading to unstable. Far be it for me to suggest any bugs in qemu
or kvm, but we do have quite a difference in our
On 14Sep21:2227+0100, Brian wrote:
On Sun 21 Sep 2014 at 16:29:53 -0400, David L. Craig wrote:
On 14Sep21:1827+0100, Brian wrote:
Apart from using a Beta 1 D-I i386 netinst and installing to a real
machine I did the same as you a couple of days ago. No problems
upgrading
On 14Sep18:0636+0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
Delete key works perfectly and fast here BTW, none of the posters (spammers)
is a debian developer and AFAIK it's not going to be.
That given, can someone explain what's the use in those debates in which your
decision
making power it's less
On 14Sep18:1449+0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 08:06:21AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
David L. Craig writes:
Is this viewpoint typical of DDs?
No, but the attitude is, unfortunately, quite common.
The grandparent poster isn't a DD.
That is good to learn
On 14Sep18:1301-0400, David L. Craig wrote:
Ironically, I have been recovering
from some strange Sid upgrade issues involving systemd for
past half day--I'm still uncertain what went south, but I
seem to be back with /sbin/init for now. Unfortunately,
Sid seems to break my toys at the worst
On 14Sep16:1203+0100, Martin Read wrote:
Debian users, on the other hand, are very much *not* a strongly-identifiable
group; there is no formal mechanism whatsoever for being endorsed as an
Official Debian User. As such, a vote by the users can, *at best*, be a
vaguely indicative straw poll
On 14Sep17:0355+1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 10:20:04AM -0400, David L. Craig wrote:
The obvious question this leads to is, Would some registration
facility to enable non-developing users to support/inform
decision-making by the DDs add meaningful value to Debian
This is the publication I wished I had had several
months ago, so I decided to write it. With hundreds
of screen shots and a few choice scripts (the main one
based on maht's make_cpuauth contribution to Plan 9),
it walks a UNIX sysadmin of modest experience through
installing Debian Sid onto an
On 14May15:1830+0200, Francesco Ariis wrote:
I guess this is going to be a debated topic. Having seen this [1], I do not
think there is any way to implement meaningful (for the companies) CDMs
without
having them in non-free.
[1]
I am amazed to discover how difficult it is to figure
out why programmatically causing a sound to be heard
when running a Debian Live XFCE distribution doesn't
produce actual sound. I can invoke VLC via Application
- Multimedia and hear a .wav as expected but trying
to cause that to happen using
On 13Nov27:1423+1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 27/11/13 13:49, David L. Craig wrote:
On 13Nov26:1545-0500, David L. Craig wrote:
On 13Nov26:1437-0500, Mark Haase wrote:
Therefore, a Linux distribution has 2 choices: (1) wait for upstream
patches for bugs/vulnerabilities
On 13Nov27:2356+1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 27/11/13 23:37, David L. Craig wrote:
On 13Nov27:1423+1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 27/11/13 13:49, David L. Craig wrote:
On 13Nov26:1545-0500, David L. Craig wrote:
On 13Nov26:1437-0500, Mark Haase wrote:
Therefore, a Linux
On 13Nov26:1437-0500, Mark Haase wrote:
Therefore, a Linux distribution has 2 choices: (1) wait for upstream
patches for bugs/vulnerabilities as they are found, or (2) recompile all
packages with optimizations disabled. I don't think proposal #2 would get
very far...
Well, there's always -O1
On 13Nov26:1545-0500, David L. Craig wrote:
On 13Nov26:1437-0500, Mark Haase wrote:
Therefore, a Linux distribution has 2 choices: (1) wait for upstream
patches for bugs/vulnerabilities as they are found, or (2) recompile all
packages with optimizations disabled. I don't think proposal
On 13Nov13:1240+0100, Steffen Dettmer wrote:
thanks for your detailed answer.
Indeed, this is very good material to understand. As a minor
point in the interest of complete treatment, I add the nohup nohup
construct; e.g.,
( while : ; do sleep 60 ; echo awake `date` ; done /dev/null )
which
On 13Oct09:2153+0100, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:24:57 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Being retired, I've no aspirations of being a sysadmin.
If you run Linux, you already are. You don't get to choose.
Probably. There have been reports of parents set
On 13Sep26:2109-0400, Tom H wrote:
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Balamurugan emailstorb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 09/25/2013 04:59 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:
Catherine Gramze wrote:
I intend to build a computer for the specific purpose of running
Debian. I have had a bad experience with a
On 13Sep27:2054+0530, Balamurugan wrote:
On 09/27/2013 04:08 PM, David L. Craig wrote:
Your fact is not. I installed Debian Sid on a G500 a few
months ago and it dual-boots with Win8. The trick is to
use the smaller alternative power button to the right of
the large power button, which
On 13Sep25:0800+0530, Balamurugan wrote:
Recently one of my friend's brother bought a Lenova
laptop. My friend asked me to install Ubuntu in that
laptop but that machine was not detecting Ubuntu
and directly booting into Windows 8. Then after bit
of struggle, we went into the bios and
On 13Jul01:1518-0400, Art Huston wrote:
I'm looking for the simplest, quickest way to setup VNC Server so I can
access my Debian machine from Windows. There are a number of ways found on
the web -- is there a best practice?
I use ss vs in one terminal, then ss vv in a second to establish
the
On 12Sep23:0208-0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
On Sep 22, 2012, at 6:51 AM, Camaleón wrote:
Anyway, no NTP daemon should crash because of skewed time;
one thing is that it refushes to sync (which can be fine,
and should log this fact so the admin can make the proper
measures) but a different
[odd--I never saw these replies in D-U-Ds 544-546, and
so am replying via the website]
It seems there isn't much interest here so I'll forego
the cookbook.
Interested parties should understand Debian IS IN FACT
based upon source packages and all binary packages are
built from these Debianized
Okay, I looked into Source Mage after I found myself in possession of a
quad-core 4GB hand-me-down box that could actually permit me to
undertake a full production platform built entirely from source
packages. While the distribution's reduced overall rigidity was
appealing and it was good to
Dne, 29. 12. 2010 16:05:01 je teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net napisal(a):
You have people who just wanna use what they rightfully paid for in their
own way, people whom they've just plain ticked off, or people who just want
to break/meet the challenge.
Well, hopefully many of them are sitting
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 12:12:32AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
If you are running Debian testing/unstable, please subscribe and listen
to what Developers are talking at
debian-de...@lists.debian.org
debian-devel-annou...@lists.debian.org
Ah, somehow I have overlooked d-d-a all these years.
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 01:54:37AM +, Sebastian wrote:
I have a SIS 671/771 graphics card in my laptop (Fujitsu Esprimo
v5535) which has always given me grief. It was running smoothly with
resolution up to 1024x800 however with a driver I downloaded from the
net[1] on my debian
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 09:44:55AM -0500, Stephen Powell wrote:
According to Ron Lee, Debian package maintainer for the
svgatextmode package, recent Linux kernels have taken over direct
control of the video hardware, and recent releases of X now make
system calls to the kernel to change
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 07:23:02PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote:
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 04:27:05PM EDT, Stefan Monnier wrote:
What the GNU project has done is give a name and a visibility, defined
a set of guidelines (and licenses) and created the expectations that
define both the Open
I can't figure this out. Why does the first pipeline suceed but the second
fails?
I'm running an up-to-date Sid.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fold -w `stty -a | head -1 | awk '{print
$7}' | tr -d ';'` /dev/null
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /dev/null | fold -w `stty -a | head -1 | awk
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 17:35 -0400, David L. Craig wrote:
I can't figure this out. Why does the first pipeline suceed but the second
fails?
I'm running an up-to-date Sid.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fold -w `stty -a | head -1 | awk '{print
$7}' | tr -d ';'` /dev/null
[EMAIL
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 08:40:05PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
muse:~# dpkg -i ~dlc/Desktop/Downloads/perl*.deb
(Reading database ... 191117 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace perl-base 5.8.8-12 (using
.../perl-base_5.10.0-13_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking
I recently started working on configuring my exim4 under Sid
and started getting failures when attempting to restart the
daemon. I added shell traces to /etc/init.d/exim4 and get the
following:
muse:/etc/exim4# /etc/init.d/exim4 start
Starting MTA:+ case ${QUEUERUNNER} in
+ start_daemon -p
I tried to upgrade my Sid system after having had it shutdown for
months. Apt-Get downloaded over a thousand packages! I had some
trouble which resulted in finally using the -f and --fix-missing options
and now I get the following results:
Setting up base-passwd (3.5.18) ...
Can't locate
I was upgrading sid from the techworld.rfa.org mirror
as of yesterday evening and ran into the following:
Preparing to replace tetex-base 1.0.2+20011202-3 (using
.../tetex-base_1.0.2+20021025-3_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement tetex-base ...
dpkg: error processing
ozymandias G desiderata [really?] wrote:
Of course, this would be a different story if the web of trust were in
more common usage, but it's not, outside of debian-maintainers and
some small klatches of die-hard cypherpunks, some of whom are too
paranoid to admit who they know anyway.
Besides
D-Man wrote:
Thanks for the info! I had the same question, but hadn't asked yet.
I'll build my own eventually to get NFS built-in (for a diskless
XTerm). If I think about it for a minute, I have to pick 486 or
worse for that.
You can install kernel-image-2.4.5-k6 and get K6 performance
out
Tom Massey wrote:
Depends on how you close the Eterm - if you close it
by clicking on the close button of the window it's in,
yes you're right. But if you exit from the shell with
a Ctrl-D or 'exit' the Eterm closes and leaves
backgrounded processes running. And I don't like
messages
Bruce wrote:
Youngsters! What is this world coming to, never heard of a comm prg,
probably don't know what x/y/zmodem and kermit are either. ;)
just for the fun of it...
I can dial in and read my mail/surf-the-web using a C64 and a comm
program, and if my ZX81 was still working I could
Faheem Mitha wrote:
My main question is -- can anyone recommend a good
firm to custom-build computers for Linux? It would
be a big plus if said firm knows enough to be able to
install Debian on it. I might do a reinstall, but it
would be greatly reassuring to know that it works on
the
J_Ramón Fdez wrote:
I have start up my linux box for 28 days. Suddenly, when
I have tried to edit a file with vi, the system said:
Can't create temporary file, errno= 30
I don't understand what happend. Can you help me?
From /usr/include/asm/errno.h:
#define EROFS 30 /*
D-Man wrote:
That's a good idea, but we really ought to start with vacuum tubes,
now shouldn't we .5 wink?
BOFH would suggest Leyden jars and kites... ;-)*1.0
Chris Parker wrote:
Student here from a micro$oft school of thought and sick of it. What
do I need to read...study to gain the honor of a unix admin.? Is
athere any good online classes or tutorials that i should check into?
Also what would be a good route to take for a beginner
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David L. Craig
wrote:
Is there anything in /var/log/XFree86.0.log? If so, please post it,
along with your XF86Config[-4] file.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/home/nikki$ cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log
cat: /var/log/XFree86.0.log: No such file or directory
[EMAIL
Adahma wrote:
I read man lilo.conf but it didn't clear up much, and I don't find any
reference to initrd in my current /etc/lilo.conf. Can anyone tell me what I
need to do, to safely upgrade?
Basically, /etc/lilo.conf needs something like:
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.4-686
Adahma wrote:
Thanks!! That brings up one more question. Which one of the images
is best for my K7 Athlon? I saw mention on a couple of them that said
for K5 or K6, but didn't see any that indicated it was for the K7. I
was assuming the 386 was a safe bet, but would like to use another if
The help for the processor config:
CONFIG_M386:
This is the processor type of your CPU. This information is used for
optimizing purposes. In order to
Summary : use 'vim' (or other editor) to setup the
/etc/X11/XF86Config file properly and use Alt-Ctrl-Del
to reboot, not the power button.
Before resorting to rebooting, try Ctl-Alt-Backspace in the
graphics (black) window. The X-server responds to this by
shutting itself down, restoring you
Nikki Locke asked:
I'll restate my original complaint -
Why is it so difficult to set up X?
To weed out the unworthy?
To force new users to learn what's going on?
No, it's more like to save you from yourself.
The fact is, like it or not, to install a Linux
distribution is to take a big step
Is there anything in /var/log/XFree86.0.log? If so, please post it,
along with your XF86Config[-4] file.
So you been using UNIX since 86. Have you used any PC flavors?
D-Man wrote:
The real question is has he admined Unix?. I use Solaris (Sparc) at
school, but I am a mere user, not the admin. I use and admin Linux
(x86) at home.
Well, installing ANY operating system IS an admin function.
I wrote:
D-Man wrote:
The real question is has he admined Unix?. I use Solaris (Sparc) at
school, but I am a mere user, not the admin. I use and admin Linux
(x86) at home.
Well, installing ANY operating system IS an admin function.
Probably a tad too cryptic... What I was trying
'Iggy' wrote:
David Boot from your rescue floppy, mount your / partition as /mnt,
David and change root's password to * (no password).
No: * means account disabled. Remove everything between the first and
second colon to log in without a password.
Whoa! Thanks for catching that. Musta
Joost wrote:
I use vim as an editor to write mail. Before I commit the message,
I jump to the top of the first paragraph and type:
!}fmt
Then a couple of times '}.' to do the same to the other paragraphs.
Maybe you should try that too, it is easier to read for others IMHO.
It should
Krst wrote:
I've got a big delay when i use man... when i type man i've got to wait
even 10 sec. before anyhing shows up? Any ideas why this happening?
If you are updating man files, reindexing can occur when the
1st man command happens...
Sean Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
zless /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/Rationale
I haven't figured out if kernel-package includes the
patches Herbert puts into the kernel-source .debs.
I tried to patch in 2.4.5-ac17 yesterday over
kernel-source-2.4.5 and ran afoul of some conflicts.
Would
Joost wrote:
In my experience, the best one is the bash(1) manpage. It is is really
vital. You don't properly realise how much until you've read all of it
(well maybe read a little faster over the readline bits).
Next come grep(1), sed(1) and awk(1).
No, next comes knowing your editor
I installed debial 2.1 and i forgot the root password.
Can you tell me please how i can change the root password ?
Boot from your rescue floppy, mount your / partition as
/mnt, and change root's password to * (no password).
Boot from your rescue floppy, mount your / partition as
/mnt, and change root's password to * (no password).
That is, vi /mnt/etc/passwd (or /etc/shadow if it exists)
and modify the root line's password field.
Then umount /mnt and reboot. root can login w/o a
password prompt. Then use passwd
On Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 21:09:05 +0200
In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Fri, May 11,
2001 at 01:50:20PM +0100
Waldemar Brodkorb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Wilson Yau wrote:
Hi, I am trying to get a Xircom RealPort CardBus multi-function card
(10/100 + 56k
As Bruce Perens wrote:
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 96 14:05 PDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Perens)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christoph Lameter), David L. Craig [EMAIL
PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
: debian-user@lists.debian.org
David L. Craig ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I was very unhappy to see this nice explanation ignore the
: perils of IP routing between the ISP and internal networks.
: Does anyone suppose its original source could be located so
: at least a paragraph could be inserted
As Christoph Lameter wrote:
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 08:19:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christoph Lameter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: David L. Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 13 Sep 1996
As Ron Welch wrote:
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:52:23 -0400
From: Ron Welch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Organization: Lockheed Martin Control Systems
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Worldnet.att.net via Linux PPP Connection
The
As Joshua Stockwell wrote:
On Aug 14, 2:35pm, Bruce Perens wrote:
: Ahem. Let's not use the word hacker to mean
: computer criminal on this list. cracker is more
: appropriate.
-- End of excerpt from Bruce Perens
Christopher R. Hertel wrote:
Seconded. The term hacker originally
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