Re: What does this mean?

2012-07-24 Thread Joel Rees
of its progress. The script does not crash. It continues to be possible to interact with it, including, even using aptitude to install software. What does this outburst mean? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: What does this mean?

2012-07-24 Thread Joel Rees
a memtest. I have one running now on the problem box. I'll be looking into earlier versions of Knoppix tomorrow. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Debian 5 - was Re: Query abouut root account

2012-07-24 Thread Joel Rees
with CUPS, you can find a printer that is similar and use the drivers/printer descriptors for that one instead. That's what I'm doing with an EPSON all-in-one that I bought nearly ten years ago. (Again, apologies if that's something you've already looked at.) [...] -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: systemd

2012-07-30 Thread Joel Rees
technical and political issues here that go way beyond the scope of this thread in debian-user, beyond a simple word to the wise: Be very, very careful with systemd. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Debian 5 - was Re: Query abouut root account

2012-07-30 Thread Joel Rees
On 7/25/12, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Wed, 25 Jul 2012, Joel Rees wrote: On 7/23/12, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: [...] One of the reasons that I wanted to be able to log in as root, is to perform an update on that system. The system is running Firestarter on Debian 5

Re: systemd

2012-08-03 Thread Joel Rees
On 8/1/12, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/30/12, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: I hate pulseaudio, but I could imagine that systemd

Re: systemd

2012-08-07 Thread Joel Rees
On 8/7/12, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Vi, 03 aug 12, 16:28:30, Joel Rees wrote: systemd is far too disruptive to have been stuffed into the main branch of Fedora the way it was. Good engineering would have been to have set up two concurrent forks of Fedora, to keep

Re: systemd

2012-08-07 Thread Joel Rees
On 8/7/12, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/1/12, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/30/12, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012

Re: [OT] Intelectual Property Law

2012-08-08 Thread Joel Rees
, if we thought such a thing profitable.) -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iOB8S-YdLmObV45YvEiovaVciWRxhH_n=b3wuztvkl...@mail.gmail.com

Re: [OT] Intelectual Property Law

2012-08-08 Thread Joel Rees
. Back to work.) -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43imzgankgcwwvh-mocbrxzsk53nqif1gbbyvm_tdsm9...@mail.gmail.com

Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal

2012-08-13 Thread Joel Rees
well does Sugar run on Squeeze? Is Pippy useable? Any other suggestions? Does TLC+TK have some simple mode that can do equation-like stuff? Python or Haskell, or whatever, with some graphics package that doesn't take too much code just to get a graphical window up? -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal

2012-08-13 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:18 PM, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: Joel Rees writes: Any other suggestions? Look at qtoctave and maxima. Yeah, nice stuff, but more of the dog that bit him. I think he's spoiled, in a sense. It's as if he thinks he knows that the computer will figure all

rkhunter log stops in the middle

2012-08-13 Thread Joel Rees
going to vacuum the thing out (it's about that time again), but should I be worried about the reason rkhunter didn't complete? As in, a root kit trying to prevent discovery. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: rkhunter log stops in the middle

2012-08-13 Thread Joel Rees
On 8/14/12, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: I booted this morning, and it stopped fairly early in the boot process and hung up. Booted again and looked at some of the logs, and there are only three screens of info messages in the rkhunter logs, the last message cut off in the middle

Re: [OT] Re: Looking for interactive programming with simple graphics like old CoCo BASIC or turbo pascal

2012-08-16 Thread Joel Rees
On 8/15/12, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:32:43 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: I'm trying to show my son how to use his computer to help him solve his high school math. He's in his second year at an engineering/technology prep high school here in the Kansai area of Japan

Re: rkhunter log stops in the middle

2012-08-18 Thread Joel Rees
FWIW, somewhere in the last five days, rkhunter started leaving full logs again. It may have been after the last apt-get update/upgrade pulled in some updates for clam, which I haven't really been doing very much with. On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On 8

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-09-30 Thread Joel Rees
listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/505b820e.2040...@allums.com -- -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org

Re: monstermarketplace malware for linux?

2012-09-30 Thread Joel Rees
, as you need it. Maybe do some forensics on the drive in your spare time. (5) Maybe it's a good excuse to update the motherboard with the new disk. (See (4).) -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Display hurtful on LCD screen with Wheezy

2012-10-03 Thread Joel Rees
On 10/2/12, Mark Allums m...@allums.com wrote: On 9/30/2012 7:32 PM, Joel Rees wrote: (Mark, did you set the screen grab to give you raw images or compressed?) 'Twasn't me. I had a minor disagreement with another user over the topic of refresh while trying to make a suggestion

Re: Is this OK in C++ and C?

2012-12-31 Thread Joel Rees
you. Try this code to see if it helps you understand: int main() { const unsigned int n = -5; char c = n; cout The variable n is: n and c is: (int) c endl; /* etc. */ -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: Is this OK in C++ and C?

2013-01-02 Thread Joel Rees
! -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43ipwyvcvr4fgdrqkb2l5eynw+e3g2_nw-0ywuwoht6m...@mail.gmail.com

Re: [SOLVED] Re: My post mail server is used for spam

2011-11-19 Thread Joel Rees
Stan, just out of curiosity, in such a case as this would it be worth trying to log in to the admin port on the router and muck with the settings? Or is there a subtext of owned router in the conversation here? Joel On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Olivier BATARD obat...@gmail.com wrote:

displaying Japanese in the virtual consoles/terminals in squeeze

2011-12-25 Thread Joel Rees
For reasons I don't care to debate, I have set my system's default language to Japanese. When I go to work in the virtual console windows (for instance, apt-get), I tend to get messages that should be in Japanese, but the Japanese is replaced by the Unicode replacement characters (?), which is no

Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications on Linux

2011-12-25 Thread Joel Rees
On 12/23/11, David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: Someone wrote: I am like you and wrote most of my C++ during the early years of the language. I used the ATT Cfront version 1.2 compiler for years. Always on Unix machines and never on Windows. I have become disillusioned with

Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications on Linux

2011-12-25 Thread Joel Rees
On 12/25/11, PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu wrote: Rather than APL itself -- value judgement aside -- you might consider its successor and superset, *J* ( http://www.jsoftware.com/ ). Is there a package for that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications on Linux

2011-12-25 Thread Joel Rees
support for familiar paradigms, so that may not be such a good suggestion. (Sorry that my beautiful language is not yet ready to be used in any meangful way. ;-/) Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Fwd: displaying Japanese in the virtual consoles/terminals in squeeze

2011-12-25 Thread Joel Rees
(Forgot to reply to list.) On 12/25/11, hvw59601 hvw59...@care2.com wrote: Joel Rees wrote: For reasons I don't care to debate, I have set my system's default language to Japanese. snip Did you install with Japanese as the default language, or did you install as some other language

Re: displaying Japanese in the virtual consoles/terminals in squeeze

2011-12-25 Thread Joel Rees
(Forgot to reply to list.) On 12/26/11, Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org wrote: Hi, On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 09:10:48PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: For reasons I don't care to debate, I have set my system's default language to Japanese. When I go to work in the virtual console windows (for instance

Re: displaying Japanese in the virtual consoles/terminals in squeeze

2011-12-26 Thread Joel Rees
Ouch. [...] For example, Debian console installer runs on virtual console with japanese display or any fancy characters. This is because they run special terminal program. Should be the same set of issues, except for the specific parameters, for any large-character-set language.

Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications on Linux

2011-12-26 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 7:14 AM, David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com wrote: On 12/25/2011 06:17 PM, Joel Rees wrote: Did you say you'd looked at Ruby? I didn't say, but, yes, I have looked at Ruby.  It seems to be purpose-built for web stuff, which would help me with the web apps

Re: OT programming languages/ systems for advanced applications on Linux

2011-12-26 Thread Joel Rees
in the current directions of Wikipedia.) Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43inmtd50juys7gsjjnaep02mld+dgorgm+abpjsehfn...@mail.gmail.com

Re: sudo command passwd is not canceled.

2012-01-04 Thread Joel Rees
to comment on that. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iM=08=neepmj1ejx5ht4lnmksuvxxytwp+bvojjb3s...@mail.gmail.com

Re: sudo command passwd is not canceled.

2012-01-05 Thread Joel Rees
Erk. Thanks, Tom. I've got to quit trusting my memory on things that I don't do every day. 2012/1/5 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com: 2012/1/4 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com: On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:26 PM, chengshid chengs...@gmail.com wrote: 于 2012年01月04日 14:45, Bob Proulx 写道: chengshid wrote: root

Re: sbin

2012-01-05 Thread Joel Rees
is historically derived from circumstance, not design, seems to figure large in the arguments. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iOH

Re: sbin

2012-01-05 Thread Joel Rees
the kind of problem where, say, you may be expecting to use /sbin/lvm on a machine where lvm is not installed, but some user has managed to put a rogue binary called lvm in /usr/bin.) Joao Thanks with best regards, (Sorry about that last extra from me because of the CC, Tom.) -- Joel Rees

Re: [OT] Ownership of words

2012-01-08 Thread Joel Rees
dragged that trademark out of the common technical language to support their illusion of monopoly/defato-standard before they actually had one, back in the '80s. We all have our crosses to bear. Lisi (Although I have to wonder why this topic is okay, but some others are not.) -- Joel Rees

Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?

2011-08-04 Thread Joel Rees
, isgraph() (space returns false) and isprint() (space returns true). If you are wondering why this is so, look at the Unicode standard. You will see that there are several different space characters defined, and you will see some mention of their differing semantics. Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Hardware - Boot issues: No post

2011-08-09 Thread Joel Rees
hold the board so that the eraser dust doesn't fall into or under parts. Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43iouc9quy1bhjvz0

Re: Apple iBook power management

2011-08-16 Thread Joel Rees
=1498559 -- Joel Rees On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 3:36 PM, scar s...@drigon.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 i installed squeeze-powerpc on an Apple ibook g4, breathed new life into this little guy that Apple has kicked to the curb. i installed gnome, configured

Re: Rsync -- Different Outputs on No Transfer

2011-08-16 Thread Joel Rees
forks. This entry on wikipedia may be of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_fork. Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43im

Re: free software mini pc

2012-03-09 Thread Joel Rees
and a little more hands-on time keeping it free and running.) -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iM5KFjm7SqABnm_fNXNZbkVHP=9cenqcd1wh6kw-zp

Re: free software mini pc

2012-03-09 Thread Joel Rees
at.) -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iPum9=y9p5=5qfo4m0afzj7vjt8hy7uzw7betp9-fs...@mail.gmail.com

Re: users, private groups, and The Unix Way (was, Re: Is it me or is it sudo?)

2012-04-03 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/03/2012 01:15 PM, Joel Rees wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Bryn M. Reeves b...@redhat.com wrote: You're allowing the local sandbox user to connect to the local

Re: users, private groups, and The Unix Way (was, Re: Is it me or is it sudo?)

2012-04-03 Thread Joel Rees
Sorry about the cross-post, guys. Still not used to Google's webmail, didn't look closely enough at the address it gave me. I need glasses. And other bad excuses. :-( On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 12:56 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:24 PM, Bryn M. Reeves b

Re: Adventures multi-booting late 2003 iBook G3 (was: What is this Apple Bootstrap thing of which the installer speaks?)

2011-05-20 Thread Joel Rees
I blogged about this a couple of years back. (Fedora, rather than Debian.) You may have discovered this all the hard way by now, but I'll post the link anyway: http://reiisi.blogspot.com/2009/05/fedora-on-old-clamshell-ibook.html I think the only thing the blog really adds is that you can

Re: OPEN SOURCE MASTERPLANS

2005-05-03 Thread Joel Rees
to change this. do something! and please stop driveling! Stop trolling. -- Joel Rees Getting involved in the neighbor's family squabbles is dangerous. But if the abusive partner has a habit of shooting through his/her roof, the guy who lives upstairs is in a bit of a catch-22

Re: Gaining ownership of an inode in own directory using vim :w!

2013-07-29 Thread Joel Rees
.) -- Joel Rees

Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!! (OT question)

2013-07-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:26:17PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: Do you mean actually recycled? Or are you thinking of one-time pads? Not really. Umm, what about: http://www.logicalsecurity.com/resources

Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!!

2013-07-29 Thread Joel Rees
be able to get information on the local process initiating the connection. The only person who can figure out what it is is you or whoever has admin responsibility for that local box. All we can do here is make half-baked guesses. -- Joel Rees

Re: tntnet

2013-07-30 Thread Joel Rees
to be the case, you can at least keep the damage from spreading. If you didn't mean telnetd. -- Joel Rees

suhosin and php 5.4

2013-07-30 Thread Joel Rees
to continue to prefer real perl.) -- Joel Rees

Re: tntnet

2013-07-31 Thread Joel Rees
no one not you has been logging in as you. Did you check what it was serving? -- Joel Rees

Re: tntnet

2013-08-01 Thread Joel Rees
docs, and I'm thinking of playing around with it sometime soon. Serving compiled C programs has certain uses. -- Joel Rees

last, lastlog, and desktop sessions

2013-08-02 Thread Joel Rees
I imagining things? Is there some setting that changes this, that might have changed when I upgraded from squeeze to wheezy? -- Joel Rees

Re: Wheezy upgrade - php5-suhosin missing?

2013-08-04 Thread Joel Rees
/2013/08/powerful-programming-languages-php5-and.html which doesn't present any happy solution either. ) -- Joel Rees

Re: owncloud no longer in wheezy

2013-08-09 Thread Joel Rees
installed owncloud on a wheezy box when wheezy was testing. I want to install it again, but this time on wheezy stable.) According to the thread, if things went well, it should be in backports. (I haven't checked.) -- Joel Rees

Re: last, lastlog, and desktop sessions

2013-08-09 Thread Joel Rees
done it. I mean, sure, grep sort of does the job: sudo grep lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm:session): session opened for user /var/log/auth.log but I'm sure there's a more general solution. On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: I've never been clear about the last

Re: last, lastlog, and desktop sessions

2013-08-15 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Joel Rees wrote: Joel Rees wrote: I've never been clear about the last command. My memory is that it recorded logins to the desktop as well as to ttyn devices. To be pedantic the last command isn't recording anything

Re: serious problem, I don't know where to report!

2013-08-17 Thread Joel Rees
stuff) from a menu. If there is, there should also be a menu item in there that leads to settings that will allow you to change the keyboard shortcuts. Which would be another way to get it out of your way without dropping fancy character support for foreign languages. -- Joel Rees

Re: sudo questions

2013-08-17 Thread Joel Rees
the best approach, but some of the devs think it just gets too much in the way.) Thanks. -- François Patte -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org

Re: sudo questions

2013-08-17 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 18 Aug 2013 at 03:12:39 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: But debian's installer tries to encourage the user to not enable root, No, it doesn't. Perhaps you would rather I said something like, it gives the option to establish

Re: serious problem, I don't know where to report!

2013-08-17 Thread Joel Rees
Chamberlain ste...@pyro.eu.org Do Steven's comments help, Jack? I sure wasn't firing on all cylinders when I posted this morning. May not be firing on all cylinders, now. Hope I didn't cause too much confusion. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: serious problem, I don't know where to report!

2013-08-17 Thread Joel Rees
was learning the little bit that I did do under Unix. I'm sure I would have learned much more and been proficient by now. Getting old is not fun, sometimes. (I think you have at least ten years on me, but I'm feeling it too.) Thanks again Sure. Jack Wilborn Peoria, AZ -- Joel Rees

Re: sudo questions

2013-08-18 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 18 Aug 2013 at 06:51:04 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 4:03 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 18 Aug 2013 at 03:12:39 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: But debian's installer tries to encourage

Re: I'm going to install Debian in my Macbook Pro

2013-08-20 Thread Joel Rees
to accomplish? -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iPENi2YobQwM2ROWDzrJE-G80z-Xhxe81Zb�jr4q...@mail.gmail.com

Re: What if I choose install text-based mode than X?

2013-08-23 Thread Joel Rees
of the userspace and available if everything should be broken on UNIX like systems. [...] I think you misunderstood, mc here means Midnight Commander, a file manager. What he means by mcedit is the Midnight Commander editor. It's built into mc. Some people find it convenient. -- Joel Rees

Re: How to install Debian 7 to external hard disk

2013-08-26 Thread Joel Rees
for any information. frank.jan...@actrix.gen.nz, ZL2TTS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/521b2e0b.2080...@actrix.gen.nz -- -- Joel Rees

Re: How to install Debian 7 to external hard disk

2013-08-26 Thread Joel Rees
26, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 7:29 PM, C.T.F. Jansen frank.jan...@actrix.gen.nz wrote: Greetings, Is there a preferred way to install Debian 7 from DVD to an external (USB) hard disk ? Several. Take your pick. The whole external hard disk

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-27 Thread Joel Rees
is an international distribution. I rarely see canonical English on the lists here. There's lots of room for different dialects, different modes of expression, ... ... different opinions. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-27 Thread Joel Rees
repositories. Look for a project you are interested in and dig in. Expect to find yourself learning a lot of things that you won't see an immediate use for. Don't worry about that, just keep mucking around. (I'd recommend my book on programming, but I haven't written it yet. ;-) -- Joel Rees

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-27 Thread Joel Rees
(Mind you, I'm pretty much in agreement with much that others have said in this thread. You're looking for something that is not where you're looking for it. But, ...) On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:36 AM, guojzzz rush@gmail.com wrote: 在 2013年8月28日星期三UTC+8上午9时00分01秒,Joel Rees写道: On Wed, Aug 28

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-28 Thread Joel Rees
in. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iMy8NP6a0kVQgZ0QJVOV4K=t-0kbtgxbtsaxpuqjke...@mail.gmail.com

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-29 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: On 8/29/2013 12:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote: (I really don't have time to do this.) On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:17 PM, [Somebody replied to somebody, arguing that C can't do objects.] The syntax does become obtuse

Re: What's the easiest and/or simplest part of Linux Kernel?

2013-08-30 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: On 8/29/2013 8:25 PM, Joel Rees wrote: [...] 3. Inheritance: the ability to extend an existing class, to provide additional or different functionality via additional messages in the derived class. Inheritance

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-30 Thread Joel Rees
Sorry about posting this to you off-list, Lisi. On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 21 August 2013 22:37:25 Bob Proulx wrote: All worked perfectly as described. Accented

Re: ASDF Ciril keyboard help

2013-08-30 Thread Joel Rees
similar. The keyboard should then be available as an option. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43inzmo2p6cfamhuh3mfbrrwghmy--sn-vzpibgcxfop

Re: oh no something is definitly wrong adieu debian.

2013-08-30 Thread Joel Rees
to know the process of reporting this I need to check, too. Haven't started reporting bugs here. http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Joel Rees
. It's part of the reason I can't quite bring myself to use either netbeans or eclipse regularly. gedit works well enough for me, even though I pretty much keep gnome off my system. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble

Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Joel Rees
for install, it will tell you which dependencies it's also pulling in, and then when you tell it to go ahead, it will show the sizes. My memory is that straight apt-get gives you the information and the chance to back out, as well. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: Resolved - was [Re: Identifying CPU]

2013-09-01 Thread Joel Rees
am running PAE.) And, if the motherboard had enough address lines, I should be able to put in more than 2G of RAM, but the manual says just 2G. So, maybe not. Some things in there that might be worth a try if I had the time. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: XFCE4 - gedit - was Re: Thanks

2013-09-01 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: On 9/2/13, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net wrote: On 9/1/13, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: On Sun, 2013-09-01 at 12:54 +1000, Zenaan

Re: Resolved - was [Re: Identifying CPU]

2013-09-02 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: On 9/1/2013 9:44 PM, Joel Rees wrote: On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: Richard Owlett a écrit : Stan Hoeppner wrote: So I fail to see why your knowing the CPU bus width

Microcode update conundrum (was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update)

2013-09-07 Thread Joel Rees
(I kind of hope this starts a flame war large enough to embarrass the corporate culprits into behaving themselves about this. Apologies in advance when I step on toes.) I was hoping that AMD was not going to have the license and non-visibility issue that plagues the Intel processor microcode

Re: Microcode update conundrum (was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update)

2013-09-08 Thread Joel Rees
(Thanks for obliging, Henrik. ;-) On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Henrik Ahlgren pa...@seestieto.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 08:00:12AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: (1) This requires enabling two repositories that I have been avoiding enabling, contrib and non-free. That means I have

Re: Microcode update conundrum (was Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Intel processor microcode security update)

2013-09-08 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:55 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote: On Sun, 08 Sep 2013, Joel Rees wrote: I was hoping that AMD was not going to have the license and non-visibility issue that plagues the Intel processor microcode updates. But I find this original announcement

Re: Security?

2013-09-08 Thread Joel Rees
call That Ultimate Entity, because that's going to be your only help in the end. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43imip3_pe

Re: Security?

2013-09-08 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:53 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:20 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:27 AM, lati...@vcn.bc.ca wrote: Hello list. What do you think about it? https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/09

Re: Reg: gcc option for printing large number (large double)

2013-09-08 Thread Joel Rees
helpful. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43in8lha-8ihc642pwybxpqdyfw39dchapbua+hqvsbv...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Reg: gcc option for printing large number (large double)

2013-09-09 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 2:40 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Balamurugan emailstorb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have an issue in printing a large number in a c program. Please find below the code snippet : #include math.h int main() { double

Re: Security?

2013-09-09 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Mon, Sep 09, 2013 at 12:20:44PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: There is one ultimate reality, and it knows all the prime factors of all the keys. If your god is not that ultimate reality, get a better God. Please

Re: Reg: gcc option for printing large number (large double)

2013-09-09 Thread Joel Rees
On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Dom to...@rpdom.net wrote: On 09/09/13 07:21, Joel Rees wrote: snip code and stuff Not sure why neither man -k nor whereis can find float.h, but it compiles okay. dom@oz:~$ locate float.h /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.6/include/float.h /usr/lib/gcc/i486

Re: Reg: gcc option for printing large number (large double)

2013-09-09 Thread Joel Rees
are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iNbLjv0=7g3t6-JNK=4preqlqu4hq2h+atcfs4-3br...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Reg: gcc option for printing large number (large double)

2013-09-09 Thread Joel Rees
DEC_EVAL_METHOD Can't seem to turn this loose. On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 1:51 AM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Dom to...@rpdom.net wrote: On 09/09/13 07:21, Joel Rees wrote: snip code and stuff Not sure why neither man -k nor whereis can find float.h

Re: ca-certificates

2013-09-10 Thread Joel Rees
question, we need more information to be able to respond with anything more meaningful than my rantings, above. -- Joel Rees -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http

Re: Security?

2013-09-11 Thread Joel Rees
appropriate and excessive paranoia. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iNC

Re: UI lag in 7.0 on Dell Precision T3500

2013-09-13 Thread Joel Rees
/debian-user/2013/07/msg00755.html It's some slowness problems I had with xfce. Seems to have been due to the wrong acceleration method specified in the X11 configuration. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: One-Stop Debian Box Config Tool: Call for Collaborators!

2013-09-13 Thread Joel Rees
of past efforts to get some idea of why you're going to get a lot of resistance on this idea.) I do keep thinking it would be nice to have the wikis more up-to-date and more complete and more accessible. If I have time, I think I'll go support those first. Hope you don't mind. -- Joel Rees

Julia language

2013-09-13 Thread Joel Rees
. No, I don't have a particular application in mind, it just looks rather interesting, but I keep postponing building it on my machines, and I'm thinking about building it from source tonight on my 32 bit box. Be nice to have some heads-ups. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first

Re: Sound problems on Wheezy upgrade

2013-09-15 Thread Joel Rees
defaulting to muted, and somehow the default GUI controls decide not to give you access to the master sound control. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe

Re: NOT QUITE: headphones still don't work.

2013-09-17 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:32:50 +0100, Klaus wrote: [ various stuff about a bug a lot of us seem to be experiencing.] Has anyone filed a bug on this? -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your

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