On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:12:44PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-02 15:20]:
This starts with the fact that he is known to actively maintain a
quite long killfile
For personal mail - not for role accounts.
However, he is widely known to have a
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Branden Robinson wrote
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I'm not sure I can give you the kind of answer you're
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:58:12AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:12:44PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
3. Do you think Debian should continue to support non-free?
No. Debian is about creating a operating system with free software,
and I don't think we should
* Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 14:37]:
Hrm, you're right. I was trying to find some quotes that indicated you
both thought that, technically, things were acceptable as they are;
Martin's comment doesn't quite indicate that out of context. The quotes
were meant to indicate you
Ah right, I'll chime in.
But on balance I think even that was pretty mild. I very seldom see
overt hostility towards women in Debian. I think I have seen more
towards gays, and we appear to have more gay and bi male developers than
women of any orientation.
It's possible that it's all
I agree with Ben that the problems are more subtle than overt. I have
never noticed overt sexism in my dealings with debian, though maybe I
haven't been looking awfully hard either.
I think that on average, women are likely to be not so confident that
their skills will allow them to survive
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 09:37:11AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:12:44PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-02 15:20]:
This starts with the fact that he is known to actively maintain a
quite long killfile
For personal mail
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 09:37:25AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
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Helen Faulkner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
website, possibly? I also think that all debian people could bear in
mind that when a woman is interacting with you, it's likely that she's
nervous about doing so. That's not your fault, but it's helpful if
you are sensitive to the possibility,
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 02:22:53PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 09:37:25AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
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* Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 14:16]:
How many role accounts are read exclusively by James and no one else?
None.
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So, anyone blindly assuming that a female Debian user is
automatically in the luser category is a fool.
I wasn't assuming that. I'm technically not that bad myself. That's
not the point. The point is that *on average* I believe a woman is
going to feel less confident about this stuff than a
* MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 08:33]:
It's now over four years since RMS asked -legal for comments on the
FDL. Do DPL candidates think agreement is likely in the next three
months? How much longer should this discussion be given? What would
they do to see more FDL-caused bugs in
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:11:46PM +, Helen Faulkner wrote:
This is my opinion, anyway :)
I'm glad you expressed your opinion. I was going to posit it
myself, based on conversations with my girlfriend, but hearing it from a
woman is much better.
There's no rational reason
* Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 06:58]:
to use new APT sources list while at the same time supporting the old
APT lines (i.e. still keeping it on Debian mirrors) for a while.
I knew *somebody* was going to bite this one.
Yeah, and simply because having a clear transition
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 15:46:59 +, Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
* MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 08:33]:
It's now over four years since RMS asked -legal for comments on the
FDL. Do DPL candidates think agreement is likely in the next three
months? How much longer should
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 12:11:46 +, Helen Faulkner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I agree with Ben that the problems are more subtle than overt. I
have never noticed overt sexism in my dealings with debian, though
maybe I haven't been looking awfully hard either.
Well, at least that sounds
Two questions.
Question 1, to Branden and Martin:
Reading over your platforms, I notice that they are very similar. I
don't think this is a bad thing; I happen to agree quite strongly with
both of your assessments of productive roles the DPL can play in our
community. Unfortunately, this
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:58:12AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
We find (found) ourselves at an impasse, where no actual work can get
done. The work of maintaining non-free outside of Debian *needs* to be
done by those who want to keep non-free in Debian. But they aren't
going to do it while
* Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 10:29]:
Has all this talking resulted in even an iota of concrete
movement on the official FSF position? Have there been any real
promises made that there is indeed going to be a change, from hte
powers that be in the FSF? Is there
Which of the groups/people on [1] do you consider delegates? Why or why not?
Would you change this?
None of them, because none includes my tama, who is an aspiring
conqueror, a wanna-be ruler of the world (who wants to start with Debian
for some strange reason... maybe because Debian is the
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 10:29:39 -0600
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 08:33]:
It's now over four years since RMS asked -legal for comments on the
FDL. Do DPL candidates think agreement is likely in the next three
months? How much longer should
Question 1, to Branden and Martin:
/me gets hissy and sad and stuff for being discriminated from a
question, and goes to his mommy to cry a little *weep-weep*
Question 2, to Gergely:
Your platform clearly shows your creativity and sense of humor, two
traits I believe are important for
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:09:23PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
However, if the point of this vote is to decide what it is that we
want to do, then I think we'd be better served with a rationale for
your proposal.
The rationale is so obvious to everybody supporting the resolution and
so
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:18:03PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
The rationale is so obvious to everybody supporting the resolution and
so incomprehensible to those opposing it that it is not worth the pain
to argue about it, IMHO.
You're not describing a rationale, you're describing an article
On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 17:31, Gergely Nagy wrote:
As a female hacker/geek/DD I find myself more and more concerned about
the gender ratio in the Debian Developer/User comunity. How can we say
make a Universal OS when it's do scarcely related to half the
population of the world... I think
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:11:46PM +, Helen Faulkner wrote:
I think that on average, women are likely to be not so confident that
their skills will allow them to survive in an environment like debian,
compared to their male counterparts. I don't know why this is true, but
I experience
* Pascal Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 16:48]:
Which of the groups/people on [1] do you consider delegates? Why or
why not? Would you change this?
Before answering this mail, I talked to Pasc on IRC for a while. Pasc
was added as a listmaster during my term as DPL, and has done
As a female hacker/geek/DD I find myself more and more concerned about
the gender ratio in the Debian Developer/User comunity. How can we say
make a Universal OS when it's do scarcely related to half the
population of the world... I think we all agree we want to see more
women
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:16:20PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
No, I am extremely disappointed with the role of the Technical
Committee. I actually talked to Peter Palfrader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
about this at FOSDEM two weeks ago. While I think that we should in
most cases come to a
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On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 10:35:18AM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
Please keep what I said about core teams in mind and re-read
Internal - Core Teams, Delegates, Communication, Transparency. Many
of the points I raise there equally apply to (big) packages and other
technical matters.
At the
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:18:03PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:09:23PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
However, if the point of this vote is to decide what it is that we
want to do, then I think we'd be better served with a rationale for
your proposal.
The rationale
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 02:16:13PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:18:03PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:09:23PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote:
However, if the point of this vote is to decide what it is that we
want to do, then I think we'd be
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 05:51:11PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
Group (b) does not want to do this work
because they want non-free to be in Debian, not external to it.
For reference, I don't want to do that work because I think it's a waste
of time and effort to have a separate archive
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 09:37:25AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
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On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 10:34:28PM +1100, Ben Burton wrote:
But on balance I think even that was pretty mild. I very seldom see
overt hostility towards women in Debian. I think I have seen more
towards gays, and we appear to have more gay and bi male developers than
women of any
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:21:27PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
I would say it as:
For those who understand, no explanation is necessary.
For those who do not, none is worthwhile.
I think it's not impossible that some (more) of the opponents could be
made to understand why people might
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 04:48:01PM +1100, Pascal Hakim wrote:
Hi,
Which of the groups/people on [1] do you consider delegates? Why or why not?
Formally speaking, I guess only two are. The Release Manager, and the
Hardware Donations Manager.
Martin can probably tell us if he's made other
The position to remove non-free as integrated part of Debian is a
technology first, end user second position. While the goal for a
100% free distribution is a great goal, I draw the line when users are
negatively impacted for the sake of the goal. It boils down to -- Who
do you put first-- the
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 10:23:57AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Conversely, my wife opines that men tend to be more
aggressive, and this may be an inherent characteristic of the
species (human nature, in other words). From what the two of you are
saying, it seems that it is a
I have never had a hostile experience with debian, but I still feel
really unconfident when I interact with the debian community, even
if it's only posting a bug report. I don't understand why this is
so, but it's very real. Partly it's knowing that I'm going to be
dealing with a man
Helen == Helen Faulkner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Helen I have never had a hostile experience with debian, but I
Helen still feel really unconfident when I interact with the
Helen debian community, even if it's only posting a bug report.
Helen I don't understand why this is so,
The problem is you are a flake.
$ dict flake
...
4. a person who behaves strangely; a flaky[2] person.
[Colloq.]
[PJC]
...
2: a person with an unusual or odd personality [syn:
{eccentric}, {eccentric person}, {oddball}, {geek}]
...
Your yourself say you
Helen Faulkner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Partly it's knowing that I'm going to be dealing
with a man (almost certainly), and he may assume I don't know what I'm
doing, and he may put me down or be condescending or unkind as a
result.
The first newbie question I
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:09:56PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote:
Helen Faulkner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Partly it's knowing that I'm going to be dealing
with a man (almost certainly), and he may assume I don't know what I'm
doing, and he may put me down or be
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:11:46PM +, Helen Faulkner wrote:
I agree with Ben that the problems are more subtle than overt. I have
never noticed overt sexism in my dealings with debian, though maybe I
haven't been looking awfully hard either.
I think that on average, women are
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Ben Burton wrote:
Your yourself say you notice a lot of people exhibiting similar
behaviour, so it doesn't appear particularly strange, unusual or odd to me.
Having read a lot of Phillip K. Dick lately, that there are a lot of
flakes out there doesn't seem odd to me. :-)
I don't know you are how long you have been with Debian or what your
contributions are, but are you sure that this lack of confidence isn't
due to inexperience?
I've been using debian increasingly for about 4-5 years now, and have used it
almost exclusively for the last couple. I don't think I'm
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 10:04:09AM +1100, Ben Burton wrote:
Colloquialisms are frequently both unkind and inaccurately applied, and
regardless of your intentions, your use of flake comes across as no
exception. Saying you're a flake, but that's not meant unkindly is
like saying I'm not
Honestly out of all the flame wars we've had
can you think of any where being a yucky girl was an issue?
I suspect you've missed the point somewhat. AIUI she does not fear that
people will bully her because she's female. She simply fears that
people will bully her (as they bully others, male
I don't honestly give a rats ass about what sexuality a person is, but I get
seriously pissed off when the 'We're a minority, we're special' card gets
pulled.
Whilst I see what you're saying, I fail to see how my post could
possibly be read as pulling the minority card. The quote I gave was
* Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 17:53]:
However, as far as I recall, no DPL has ever publicly appointed
delegates to positions.
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2003/debian-devel-announce-200305/msg5.html
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* Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 14:03]:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 10:35:18AM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
Please keep what I said about core teams in mind and re-read
Internal - Core Teams, Delegates, Communication, Transparency.
Many of the points I raise there equally
Ben Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
people will bully her because she's female. She simply fears that
people will bully her (as they bully others, male or female), and her
claim is that males (by social training or otherwise) are better suited to
such environments than females are.
I think
Mike Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't honestly give a rats ass about what sexuality a person is, but I get
seriously pissed off when the 'We're a minority, we're special' card gets
pulled. It's the whole PC thing going overboard.
Since nobody in my opinion has ever said that...what
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:04:36 -0500 (EST), Jaldhar H Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I have never had a hostile experience with debian, but I still
feel really unconfident when I interact with the debian
community, even if it's only posting a bug report. I don't
understand why this is so,
A. What do you think is the greatest challenge facing Debian in the
coming year? What would you do as Project Leader to try and meet this
challenge?
B. What should the Project Leader's role be when Debian comes into
significant and important conflict with other free software
organizations? (As
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:01:35PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
Since nobody in my opinion has ever said that...what are you
complaining about?
...
We're a minority, please treat us equally, from one side, and
We're the majority, so we get special rights, from the other.
Again, perhaps
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Ben Burton wrote:
I suspect you've missed the point somewhat. AIUI she does not fear that
people will bully her because she's female.
I think instead of guessing at what we think Helen is saying we should
just go by what she actually did say and let her respond to any
* Thomas Bushnell, BSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 19:20]:
A. What do you think is the greatest challenge facing Debian in the
coming year? What would you do as Project Leader to try and meet
this challenge?
I think I have covered this pretty thoroughly in the My goals
section of my
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 05:04:36PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
I have never had a hostile experience with debian, but I still feel
really unconfident when I interact with the debian community, even
if it's only posting a bug report. [...]
Helen I hope you don't take this the wrong way
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:21:27PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
I think it's not impossible that some (more) of the opponents could be
made to understand why people might disagree with them. But I can't
imagine any even theoretically possible scenarios where this would
change their opinion,
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 09:02:41PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 17:04:36 -0500 (EST), Jaldhar H Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I have never had a hostile experience with debian, but I still
feel really unconfident when I interact with the debian
community, even if
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 13:57:18 +1000, Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 05:04:36PM -0500, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
I have never had a hostile experience with debian, but I still
feel really unconfident when I interact with the debian
community, even if it's only
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
Heh. Seems tome that you are merely displaying your
inexperience
Could be. Given there are half a billion women in the world it could take
me a while to get the requisite experience.
What Helen mentions is not a feeling that is an
Helen Faulkner wrote:
I wasn't assuming that. I'm technically not that bad myself. That's
not the point. The point is that *on average* I believe a woman is
going to feel less confident about this stuff than a man with similar
skill. Do you have anoher suggestion as to why women don't get
On Thu, Mar 04, 2004 at 01:52:45PM +1300, Mike Beattie wrote:
Don't get me wrong, it's not just homosexuals that fit into this gripe, it's
also african-americans, .nz's Maori, various religions, and Australians..
this We're a minority, we're special card you mention is used by those who
feel
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Craig Sanders wrote:
this We're a minority, we're special card you mention is used by those who
feel marginalised or persecuted, i.e. in an inferior social position.
i don't think any of the australians in this forum could be accused of feeling
that :)
Aren't your
A. What do you think is the greatest challenge facing Debian in the
coming year? What would you do as Project Leader to try and meet this
challenge?
We have quite a few challenges coming ahead. There is this SCO case: we
shouldn't laugh too hard at them, because that makes us look bad.
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 03:17:55PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 11:27:17PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
As is probably obvious, I have a tendency to answer questions that
interest me, whether they were intended rhetorically or not.
I seldom ask purely rhetorical
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 03:20:16PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
Here are my questions:
1. My concern is to propagate Custom Debian Distributions because
I think we should set a stronger focus to the end user. I see
Debian as a missing link between upstream developers and end
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:12:44PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
3. Do you think Debian should continue to support non-free?
No. Debian is about creating a operating system with free software,
and I don't think we should be in the business of distributing
non-free software. I think we
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 08:47:35PM +0100, David N. Welton wrote:
Gergely Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Easy one. As seen on debian-devel@ recently, Progeny (I think,
correct me if I'm wrong) has this Componentized Linux idea. Which is
all nice and good, and should help custom distros all
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 08:24:11AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 04:12, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-02 15:20]:
3. Do you think Debian should continue to support non-free?
No. Debian is about creating a operating system with
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 10:51:18PM +0100, David N. Welton wrote:
Zenaan Harkness [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What about Debian distributing documentation - do you see it as
software, do you see all documentation (eg. philosophical) as software?
Eg. GFDL documentation?
RFCs?
Another
David N. Welton wrote:
Easy one. As seen on debian-devel@ recently, Progeny (I think,
correct me if I'm wrong) has this Componentized Linux idea. Which is
all nice and good, and should help custom distros all right. So, the
plans are set straight already.
I saw Ian's online journal as
Zenaan Harkness wrote:
No. Debian is about creating a operating system with free software,
and I don't think we should be in the business of distributing
non-free software. I think we should focus on what we do best (create
and integrate free software), and this would also get us closer
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 01:12:11AM +0100, Amaya wrote:
As a female hacker/geek/DD I find myself more and more concerned about
the gender ratio in the Debian Developer/User comunity. How can we say
make a Universal OS when it's do scarcely related to half the
population of the world... I think
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:58:12AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:12:44PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
3. Do you think Debian should continue to support non-free?
Having said this, I don't think the current non-free removal vote is
being done correctly. If we
On 2004-03-03 07:12:40 + Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
However, I'm sympathetic to RMS having been injured, and I'm
sympathetic
to Eben Moglen having to work overtime to counter the outrageous FUD
and
untruths being spewed by SCO and its shadowy partners.
Hrm, emails like
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:12:44PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-02 15:20]:
This starts with the fact that he is known to actively maintain a
quite long killfile
For personal mail - not for role accounts.
However, he is widely known to have a
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I'm not sure I can give you the kind of answer you're
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:58:12AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote:
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:12:44PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
3. Do you think Debian should continue to support non-free?
No. Debian is about creating a operating system with free software,
and I don't think we should
* Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au [2004-03-03 14:37]:
Hrm, you're right. I was trying to find some quotes that indicated you
both thought that, technically, things were acceptable as they are;
Martin's comment doesn't quite indicate that out of context. The quotes
were meant to indicate
Ah right, I'll chime in.
But on balance I think even that was pretty mild. I very seldom see
overt hostility towards women in Debian. I think I have seen more
towards gays, and we appear to have more gay and bi male developers than
women of any orientation.
It's possible that it's all
I agree with Ben that the problems are more subtle than overt. I have
never noticed overt sexism in my dealings with debian, though maybe I
haven't been looking awfully hard either.
I think that on average, women are likely to be not so confident that
their skills will allow them to
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 09:37:11AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
On Tue, Mar 02, 2004 at 05:12:44PM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
* Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-02 15:20]:
This starts with the fact that he is known to actively maintain a
quite long killfile
For personal mail
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 09:37:25AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Branden Robinson wrote
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Helen Faulkner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
website, possibly? I also think that all debian people could bear in
mind that when a woman is interacting with you, it's likely that she's
nervous about doing so. That's not your fault, but it's helpful if
you are sensitive to the possibility,
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 02:22:53PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 09:37:25AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Branden Robinson wrote
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* Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 14:16]:
How many role accounts are read exclusively by James and no one else?
None.
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On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 02:16:45PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 09:37:11AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
However, he is widely known to have a MTTA (medium time to answer)
highly dependent on the sender of a message to a role-account attended
by him,
How many role
So, anyone blindly assuming that a female Debian user is
automatically in the luser category is a fool.
I wasn't assuming that. I'm technically not that bad myself. That's
not the point. The point is that *on average* I believe a woman is
going to feel less confident about this stuff
* Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 14:56]:
How many role accounts are read exclusively by James and no one
else?
The question should be, how many role accounts are acted on
exclusively by James.
To some degree[1], two. Both have been working fine in the last six
months, though;
* Andreas Tille [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 09:37]:
There is no open archive of debian-private but I have some mails
stored in my private archive which leaded to this conclusion IMHO.
Again - I have no personal problem with this as long as work is done
fine - but the DPL might have to face
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:11:46PM +, Helen Faulkner wrote:
This is my opinion, anyway :)
I'm glad you expressed your opinion. I was going to posit it
myself, based on conversations with my girlfriend, but hearing it from a
woman is much better.
There's no rational reason
* Andrew Suffield [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 06:58]:
to use new APT sources list while at the same time supporting the old
APT lines (i.e. still keeping it on Debian mirrors) for a while.
I knew *somebody* was going to bite this one.
Yeah, and simply because having a clear transition
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004 15:46:59 +, Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
* MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-03 08:33]:
It's now over four years since RMS asked -legal for comments on the
FDL. Do DPL candidates think agreement is likely in the next three
months? How much longer should
On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 12:11:46 +, Helen Faulkner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I agree with Ben that the problems are more subtle than overt. I
have never noticed overt sexism in my dealings with debian, though
maybe I haven't been looking awfully hard either.
Well, at least that sounds
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