RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked

2006-09-20 Thread John T \(Lists\)
Yes, an IP could be delisted within a few hours. John T eServices For You Seek, and ye shall find! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 8:20 PM To:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked

2006-09-20 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Yes, servers can be removed from Spamcop pretty quick depending on various factors. FWIW IMO Spamcop tends to list known legit mailservers fairly often (gmail, aol, earthlink, etc). I use it, but I also counter weight revdns for some of those big providers mailservers to counter spamcop hits.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked

2006-09-20 Thread Panda Consulting S.A. Luis Alberto Arango
Septiembre de 2006 07:45 a.m. To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked Yes, servers can be removed from Spamcop pretty quick depending on various factors. FWIW IMO Spamcop tends to list known legit mailservers fairly often (gmail

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop blocked message but not blocked

2006-09-20 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
You can follow the link in the text that the SpamCop RBL returns, and then follow a link there for further information: http://www.spamcop.net/w3m?action=blcheckip=216.9.248.51 Which shows that this Blackberry server is listed again and will be for the next 16 hours. It also shows the recent

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop

2005-11-22 Thread Richard Farris
- Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop gmail has many outbound servers - chances are one of the messages went via a server listed in spamcop

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop

2005-11-22 Thread Matt
:19 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop gmail has many outbound servers - chances are one of the messages went via a server listed in spamcop. Spamcop these days has been proving to be less and less reliable - I can't tell you how often AOL, Earthlink, Gmail, Attbi, and other big ISP's

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop

2005-11-22 Thread Scott Fisher
For me this month spamcop has been correct 99.3% of the time. It has detected about 45% of all spams. - Original Message - From: Richard Farris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:02 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop I have

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop

2005-11-22 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop gmail has many outbound servers - chances are one of the messages went via a server listed in spamcop. Spamcop these days has been proving to be less and less reliable - I can't tell you how often AOL, Earthlink, Gmail, Attbi, and other big ISP's get listed... Darrell

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop

2005-11-22 Thread Travis Sullivan
is held. Removing spamcop from your testing would be a mistake IMHO. Travis - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop Richard, Last I checked, SpamCop was tagging

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop

2005-11-21 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
gmail has many outbound servers - chances are one of the messages went via a server listed in spamcop. Spamcop these days has been proving to be less and less reliable - I can't tell you how often AOL, Earthlink, Gmail, Attbi, and other big ISP's get listed... Darrell

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop catching Gmail

2005-11-01 Thread Travis Sullivan
I noticed that Spamcop is catching email from GMAIL.COM Is there another real-time black list to use that is as good Spamcop was. Gmail is slow on their TOS reports. I have sent in 30 so far and it normally takes 5 working days for them to kill the account and reply. However, I have

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop catching gmail

2005-07-11 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Richard, This is a common complaint of a lot of people about Spamcop including myself. They have no issues listing AOL, Hotmail, etc. It's just the way their system works. It takes in really no consideration that yes they may leak some spam - but all in all they are legit servers.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop catching gmail

2005-07-11 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Do you have an example, Richard? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Farris Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:48 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop catching gmail I am finding several legitimate

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop catching gmail

2005-07-11 Thread Richard Farris
Also, all of a sudden I am catching a lot of seemingly lagitimate mail from yahoo with .. Subject To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; Headers Received: from spamwall.apid.com [63.238.52.89] by ethixs.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.11) id A86D12EA0280; Fri, 08 Jul

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop catching gmail

2005-07-11 Thread Richard Farris
- Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:58 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop catching gmail Do you have an example, Richard? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop blacklist Misdirected bounces

2005-04-12 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Let me guess, you are using the evil BOUNCEIFYOUMUST action in Declude JM? John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Technical Support Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:34 AM To:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop blacklist Misdirected bounces

2005-04-12 Thread System Administrator
on 4/12/05 2:33 PM, Technical Support wrote: Has anyone else had this issue before, and if so, what can be done to fix it? Yes, one of my servers is listed somewhere (sorbs I think). Setup an outbound rule in IMail, any message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of undeliverable mail gets

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop blacklist Misdirected bounces

2005-04-12 Thread Dave Doherty
. - Original Message - From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 2:58 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop blacklist "Misdirected bounces" Let me guess, you are using the evil BOUNCEIFYOUM

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers

2005-02-28 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Well, John. I'm sure that's a rhetorical question, but I'm feeling a little chatty while I listen to hold music. SpamCop and pretty well every other blacklisting service make no allowance for how much good mail is coming from an IP address. They only do blacklisting. The funny thing is that

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers

2005-02-28 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 11:02 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers SpamCop and pretty well every other blacklisting service make no allowance for how much good mail

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers

2005-02-28 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Of Colbeck, Andrew Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 9:37 AM To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers Well, John. I'm sure that's a rhetorical question, but I'm feeling a little chatty while I listen to hold music. SpamCop and pretty

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers

2005-02-28 Thread Dave Doherty
I do the same. -d - Original Message - From: Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing AOL webmail servers SpamCop and pretty well every other blacklisting

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing?

2005-01-13 Thread Ernesto
: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing? Ernesto, I am not sure if anyone else has covered this or even if this is applicable, but some ISP's like ATT will deny DNS queries for known spam lists like SPAMCOP while allowing other ones to go

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing?

2005-01-12 Thread Ernesto
settings, how can I check to make sure that I do have it correct. thanks - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing? Has there been a change

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing?

2005-01-12 Thread Markus Gufler
It is important to note that you should only have one DNS server listed in the IMail SMTP settings (IMail has a known sporadic issue if there are multiple DNS servers listed). Really? I've listed 3 DNS for over 4 years now without any problem. Is there any KB article? Markus --- [This

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing?

2005-01-12 Thread R. Scott Perry
It is important to note that you should only have one DNS server listed in the IMail SMTP settings (IMail has a known sporadic issue if there are multiple DNS servers listed). Really? I've listed 3 DNS for over 4 years now without any problem. Is there any KB article? I'm not sure if they have

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing?

2005-01-12 Thread Ernesto
: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing? Thanks for the reply. I have checked my DNS settings, but everything is fine. It is important to note that you should only have one DNS server listed in the IMail SMTP settings (IMail has a known sporadic issue if there are multiple DNS servers listed

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing?

2005-01-12 Thread Chuck Schick
Scott: Do you have do you have any further information about this statement - what type of errors, etc. It is important to note that you should only have one DNS server listed in the IMail SMTP settings (IMail has a known sporadic issue if there are multiple DNS servers listed). We have used

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing?

2005-01-12 Thread R. Scott Perry
Do you have do you have any further information about this statement - what type of errors, etc. It is important to note that you should only have one DNS server listed in the IMail SMTP settings (IMail has a known sporadic issue if there are multiple DNS servers listed). The issue I am aware of

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing?

2005-01-12 Thread Darrell \([EMAIL PROTECTED])
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing? Has there been a change in the cfg files lately, or something? I've seen a few domains/IPs that Spamcop does have listed, yet, they don't appear

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop not testing?

2005-01-11 Thread R. Scott Perry
Has there been a change in the cfg files lately, or something? I've seen a few domains/IPs that Spamcop does have listed, yet, they don't appear to have failed the spamcop test. This is the line I have in my cfg file: SPAMCOP ip4r bl.spamcop.net 127.0.0.2 5 0 Is there something I should notice

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop Listed

2004-08-16 Thread David Franco-Rocha
Serge, If you want to use the list manually, or from custom software, you should instruct your system to do a dns query for the information. For example, if you want to check if 1.2.3.4 is on the blacklist, you might type this at the command-line: nslookup

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP

2004-04-01 Thread R. Scott Perry
I noticed that several RBL's have not been triggered off one of our backup mail servers over the last 24 hours. For example SPAMCOP hasn't. I turned on DEBUG mode and noticed that it was reporting this 04/01/2004 10:56:53.296 Q3bbb215802381bda Test #18 [ORDB] is same as Test #18 [ORDB=*].

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP

2004-04-01 Thread Darrell LaRock
: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP I noticed that several RBL's have not been triggered off one of our backup mail servers over the last 24 hours. For example SPAMCOP hasn't. I turned on DEBUG mode and noticed that it was reporting this 04/01/2004 10:56:53.296 Q3bbb215802381bda Test #18 [ORDB] is same

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP

2004-04-01 Thread niceman
I noticed this about a year ago on some of the other DNSBL's; they are trying to reduce DNS load by making these types of queries fail. Scott, It's ATT's DNS servers. I wonder if they are doing something to block those kinds of lookup's. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP

2004-04-01 Thread Kevin Bilbee
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Scott, It's ATT's DNS servers. I wonder if they are doing something to block those kinds of lookup's. Darrell -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Thursday

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop acting up

2004-01-15 Thread Rick Klinge
Well I'm getting spam from aol too.. And we are a small small (62 ip's).. So shut them off.. Easy concept since they are the ones that force the rest of us email admins to mush have a rDNS in order for them to accept our legit mail.. ~Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop acting up

2004-01-15 Thread Dan Geiser
Matt, Did you ever consider that they tagged 2 different AOL mail servers because they were sending spam? Dan Geiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:03 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop acting up

2004-01-15 Thread Matt
I'm quite sure that they were relaying spam from zombies, however, you shouldn't be listing the world's largest ISP's mail servers in the same group as direct sources of spam. When they list AOL's mail servers, they wind up tagging probably 99.9% or more of the E-mail coming from those servers

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop acting up

2004-01-15 Thread R. Scott Perry
SpamCop is a very important test, and I would imagine that with a week's work, they could correct all issues with tagging mail servers that handle over 50% of legitimate E-mail traffic in the US. For years, I have thought that they should return the spam/total ratio for mailservers (which they

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop acting up

2004-01-15 Thread Matt
Sounds like something that would be easy for them to improve. I hope that you've given them the recommendation of exposing the data in TXT records. I just started building some spamtraps myself, and before I can make use of them, I'm going to have to weed out at least the large ISP and

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop listing Webtv.net IP

2003-12-24 Thread Matthew Bramble
SpamCop and MailPolice both got demoted on my system by a point today, and I hope to bring them down another point soon (after measuring the effect on my system). When I see ISP mail servers listed, it is generally due to one of two things...they either have no controls on someone doing a bulk

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Question

2003-12-19 Thread R. Scott Perry
I was looking at the headers and saw SPAMCOP : Blocked Is that how it should be - what it's returning? If not, ideas on what could be wrong? That is what it is returning: X-RBL-Warning: SPAMCOP: Blocked - see

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Question

2003-12-19 Thread Burzin Sumariwalla
Doug, I don't think anything is wrong. SpamC. is returning a TXT record with that information. The link says that's experimental. Burzin At 12:22 PM 12/19/2003, you wrote: I was looking at the headers and saw SPAMCOP : Blocked Is that how it should be - what it's returning? If not, ideas on

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses

2003-12-05 Thread Kami Razvan
Dan: We made a decision a long time ago to whitelist REVDNS of all the folks you had listed. We now have two REVDNS negative files. 1: Whitelist as entered in the Global.cfg (I only hope one day Scott moves these entries to their own files). 2: Negative reverseDNS files that adds negative

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses

2003-12-05 Thread Dan Geiser
: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:24 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses Dan: We made a decision a long time ago to whitelist REVDNS of all the folks you had listed. We now have two REVDNS negative files. 1: Whitelist as entered in the Global.cfg (I only hope one

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses

2003-12-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
Am I correct that you can only add 100 WHITELIST entries to the GLOBAL.CFG file? Is that 100 each for REVDNS and HELO or 100 total? Is there anyway to go past that limit and/or else offload those into a separate file? Actually, it's a limit of 200. The WHITELIST FROM entries can be offloaded

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses

2003-12-05 Thread Kami Razvan
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses Kami: I've been taking a look at your configuration files every few weeks and based on what I saw there a couple of months ago, I also started WHITELISTing based on Reverse

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses

2003-12-05 Thread Burzin Sumariwalla
Hi Dan, I've only seen one FP from SpamCop in the last week. I routinely see email sent by legitimate firms get tagged as spam, but usually these firms are using third party mailers to send information. Burzin At 09:10 AM 12/5/2003, you wrote: Hello, All, Has anyone noticed in the last few

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses

2003-12-05 Thread Dan Geiser
. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:46 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses Am I correct that you can only add 100 WHITELIST entries to the GLOBAL.CFG file? Is that 100 each for REVDNS and HELO or 100 total

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses

2003-12-05 Thread Markus Gufler
Yes... Like a filter file: REVDNS -20 ENDSWITH .amazon.com I put the period before Amazon to just make sure no funky domain like .spamamazon.com can get through. Hmmpfff I hoped already that that could be a reason for unlimited IPBYPASS entries... ;-) Markus

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses

2003-12-05 Thread Dan Geiser
Kami, What is the name of the filter file that you have entries of those type in? Thanks, Dan - Original Message - From: Kami Razvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses Yes

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses

2003-12-05 Thread Dan Geiser
Scott, Do you have plans to offer offloading for WHITELIST HELO and WHITELIST REVDNS? Thanks, Dan - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses

2003-12-05 Thread Hosting Support
I'm not sure if everyone has heard, but IronPort bought SpamCop. It's likely that they're fiddling with it. There's an article on Slashdot from Wednesday about it. http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/03/2016218mode=threadtid=111tid=126tid=137tid=187 Personally, After seeing so many

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses

2003-12-05 Thread R. Scott Perry
Do you have plans to offer offloading for WHITELIST HELO and WHITELIST REVDNS? Not at this time, simply because we can't envision there being a need for 200 such entries. :) However, the WHITELIST limit is something that comes up frequently, so it is quite possible that more changes will be

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses

2003-12-05 Thread Kami Razvan
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Having Legit IP Addresses Kami, What is the name of the filter file that you have entries of those type in? Thanks, Dan - Original Message - From: Kami Razvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:51 AM

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop news

2003-11-19 Thread Matthew Bramble
Even though they say that it will remain free, it seems like good business sense for them. The value of SpamCop, imperfect as it is, still is immense and only MailPolice would seem to be able to carry on that torch. Hopefully with just a little more effort, they can clean up some of their

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop news

2003-11-19 Thread Bill Landry
IronPort owns the bondedsender.com whitelist service, as well, and I have had good results using their ip4r service. So this sounds like it could be a good combination of services. Bill - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop news

2003-11-19 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Sure... if all they do is provide cash such that the spamcop services provides don't go down due to lack of funding, that will be a good thing. If they also take over some of the operations, then Matt would get his wish and they could afford to put in place some filters to make their service less

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop news

2003-11-19 Thread Andy Schmidt
May be a commercial enterprise will be more open to adding a hands-off reporting system. Manually confirming every spam that I already determined as spam makes the system not practical. What they need is a commercial (for fee) account which includes the (revocable) right to submit directly into

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop news

2003-11-19 Thread Bill Landry
and verification process, and like Mark said, an inaccurate system is worse than no system. Bill - Original Message - From: Andy Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 6:49 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop news May be a commercial enterprise

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account

2003-10-31 Thread Andy Schmidt
I don't see the reasoning behind sending SPAMCOP thousands of e-mails per day that are already stopped by your system. Presence in SPAMCOP is temporary. To REMAIN listed, you need to keep submitting SPAM so that the senders keep getting listed. Best Regards Andy Schmidt HM Systems Software,

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account

2003-10-30 Thread Kami Razvan
Dan.. BE VERY CAREFUL IF YOU DO THIS... We were doing this and once someone from the list sent me an email with bunch of keywords in it.. The system automatically forwarded it to the SPAMCop account. If you do this make sure you review every spam that goes into your account and approve them

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account

2003-10-30 Thread Jason Newland
on the SpamSource button, and it submits to SPAMCOP. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account Dan.. BE VERY

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account

2003-10-30 Thread R. Scott Perry
I understand what you are saying here. If there's any chance whatsoever that I would send a legit e-mail to Spamcop as spam then I won't set it up. I think the real problem is that the idea behind Spamcop is people reporting unsolicted E-mail. The failure of enough Declude tests *should*

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account

2003-10-30 Thread Dan Geiser
other 2 questions? Thanks, Dan - Original Message - From: Jason Newland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:17 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account Typically I only send SPAMCOP e-mails that pass through our Declude filters

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account

2003-10-30 Thread Dan Geiser
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP Account I understand what you are saying here. If there's any chance whatsoever that I would send a legit e-mail to Spamcop as spam then I won't set it up. I think the real problem

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop as reliable source?

2003-08-14 Thread R. Scott Perry
Lately a reputable Listserv I belong to has begun failing the Spamcop test. I've whitelisted the domain, but it's got me wondering...is Spamcop a reliable source of spam, or would I do better by downgrading their weight. Currently I have Spamcop fails set to label subject as Spam regardless

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop as reliable source?

2003-08-08 Thread David Sullivan
DM Any (subjective g ) suggestions? I've seen spamcop get way to aggressive over the past 6 months. They used to be pretty accurate. We were listed for a while because our domain name was in an MX record (for backup store and forward) for a client ISP who had 1 user get reported to spamcop.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop?

2003-07-07 Thread R. Scott Perry
Has spamcop stopped working? I'm not seeing any reference to it in my logs now (set to mid) or headers. It still seems to be working fine from here (see http://www.declude.com/spamtrap.htm ). Could you post the longer line that begins with SPAMCOP from your \IMail\Declude\global.cfg file?

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop?

2003-07-07 Thread David Fletcher
, 2003 12:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop? Has spamcop stopped working? I'm not seeing any reference to it in my logs now (set to mid) or headers. It still seems to be working fine from here (see http://www.declude.com/spamtrap.htm ). Could you post

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop?

2003-07-07 Thread David Fletcher
Qa9930eca013e736e Test 4-MONKEYPROXIES didn't get a response. -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 12:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop? Has spamcop stopped working? I'm not seeing any reference

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop?

2003-07-07 Thread R. Scott Perry
Good call, Scott. I don't think any of these tests are showing up right now. I'm going to bump up the logging and take a better look. If none of them are showing up, did you make any major changes recently (such as adding a gateway in front of your IMail server)? I'm guessing that Declude

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop?

2003-07-07 Thread R. Scott Perry
Debug gives me these lines: 07/07/2003 13:10:54 Qa9930eca013e736e Test 1-SPAMCOP didn't get a response. 07/07/2003 13:10:54 Qa9930eca013e736e Test 2-JAPAN didn't get a response. 07/07/2003 13:10:54 Qa9930eca013e736e Test 3-MONKEYFORMMAIL didn't get a response. 07/07/2003 13:10:54

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop?

2003-07-07 Thread David Fletcher
it has occurred, can be made to appear inevitable by a competent historian. -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 1:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop? Debug gives me these lines: 07/07/2003 13:10

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] spamcop?

2003-07-07 Thread R. Scott Perry
We're using our internet provider's DNS server. It seems to work, but I don't know how to test it for the types of queries declude uses. nslookup works fine. Does nslookup work fine using the DNS servers listed in the OS, or are you using set server=192.0.2.53 (entering the IP of the first

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop?

2003-06-17 Thread Susan Duncan
I can get there now with my reporting code. Hirthe, Alexander wrote: Hello, what happened to Spamcop.net? I cannot http them? Alex --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP weight

2003-03-17 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have adjusted the spamcop weight from 7 to 10 in the global.cfg file but messages are still coming thru that have spamcop marked as 7. Any ideas? Example: X-Spam-Tests-Failed: SPAMCOP [7] Were they coming through as X-Spam-Tests-Failed: SPAMCOP [7] before? I'm guessing they were coming

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop, OSSRC, and OSSOFT Tests

2002-11-13 Thread Ron Harris
To: Ron Harris Subject:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop, OSSRC, and OSSOFT Tests Ron, Tuesday, November 12, 2002 you wrote: RH I currently Hold a lot of e-mail failing a lot of the open relay tests. The only two tests I hold directly are ORDB and SNIFFER. ORDB is about 99% for me

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop, OSSRC, and OSSOFT Tests

2002-11-12 Thread John Tolmachoff
I currently give a weight of 16 to SpamCop, forcing the message to either fail 2 minor tests or one other major test. (Subject modification 15-19, hold at 20.) Here is what Declude has to say about OSSRC: Osirusoft's Confirmed Spam Source list. These are sites that continually spam and have been

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop, OSSRC, and OSSOFT Tests

2002-11-12 Thread Smart Business Lists
Ron, Tuesday, November 12, 2002 you wrote: RH I currently Hold a lot of e-mail failing a lot of the open relay tests. The only two tests I hold directly are ORDB and SNIFFER. ORDB is about 99% for me and SNIFFER is less but still very high. Mainly SNIFFER fails on lists and

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop, OSSRC, and OSSOFT Tests

2002-11-12 Thread John Tolmachoff
I have given this test a weight of 2. My thinking is that although they are known to produce SPAM, they have not been shown very in-effective in Scott's monthly log. Darn keyboard virus. Let me try that again. ...they have not been shown to be very effective in... John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP:[SNIFFER Sniffer test failed]Declude.JunkMail and Message Sniffer

2002-09-27 Thread Sheldon Koehler
Next month we plan to release a version that includes compound heuristics. At that time we will begin adding white-rule to the database to match well known legitimate lists. We expect this will reduce the problem. Yippee!!! Sheldon Sheldon Koehler, Owner/Partner

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP:[SNIFFER Sniffer test failed]Declude.JunkMail and Message Sniffer

2002-09-26 Thread Jim Rooth
Instead of whitelisting, try giving those names a negative value. That way if you do get some real spam from that domain, you will still have other values or weights to use to catch it. If you whitelist, nothing is even checked and it goes through regardless. Jim Rooth Klotron, Inc.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMCOP:[SNIFFER Sniffer test failed]Declude.JunkMail and Message Sniffer

2002-09-26 Thread Madscientist
For now, you will want to whitelist these. The trouble is that many lists append advertising content to their messages. Sniffer tends to get triggered by the advertising content. Next month we plan to release a version that includes compound heuristics. At that time we will begin adding

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop - SPAM

2002-09-10 Thread John Tolmachoff
Some one else may have a better idea, but that may not be from SpamCop. There was a discussion yesterday on the Imail forum about some one sending out fake notices pretending to be from SpamCop. http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/msg57757.htm l Notice this in the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop Dead.

2002-04-25 Thread Madscientist
No specific idea, but I did just watch a HUGE network instability pass through the UUNet network... Took the last half hour or so to stabilize (knock wood). Maybe that's part of it. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chuck Schick

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SpamCop Dead.

2002-04-25 Thread John Tolmachoff
PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop Dead. No specific idea, but I did just watch a HUGE network instability pass through the UUNet network... Took the last half hour or so to stabilize (knock wood). Maybe that's part of it. _M | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop issue

2002-03-04 Thread Tom
EG My only concern is that after doing some checking myself with just EG warn on weight10 is that someone that fail revdns and badheaders will EG have a weight of 13 and thusely get held/deleted. I've been using the weight10 and it's been working fine for me. Here is an example of my

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamcop issue

2002-03-02 Thread Tom
After careful consideration to everyone's views, I have elected to use the weight10 test to help define spam. I have been looking through thousands of messages and logs to figure out what the best method would be for cutting down spam. Most spam will fail more than one test. Usually a