Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Upgrade Declude

2004-06-09 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, [] We normally recommend the latest version (either 1.75 (the latest released version) or 1.80 (the latest beta)). But you need to make sure that your [] Hmmm, are you ahead of yourself here? I have not seen a message about 1.80 being released, nor do the junkmail and virus

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Feature Suggestion - More control over final action

2004-06-09 Thread Markus Gufler
I'm still trying to come up with an easy to implement way to give us more control over conflicting final actions. Specifically, I have several tests set to HOLD or DELETE (in fact, the vast majority of incoming mail) - however, a small number of them escaped detection by Sniffer or

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Upgrade Declude

2004-06-09 Thread R. Scott Perry
You know if you talk about version 1.80, we'll want to download it... Anything noteworthy in 1.80? Sorry, that should have been 1.79. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Feature Suggestion - More control over final action

2004-06-09 Thread R. Scott Perry
Maybe one solution would be to set up an action that for instance would ROUTETO NULL, so that you could use this in place of DELETE and still get the COPYTO function to work? Actually, you can get DELETE and COPYTO to work. In this case, the DELETE action isn't really desired -- you just want

[Declude.JunkMail] Feature request

2004-06-09 Thread Scott Fisher
I ran across a case where the NOTIS would be preferred over the NOTCONTAINS. Can we see the NOTIS and the NOTBEGINSWITH implimented? Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from

[Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist one Country for one Domain

2004-06-09 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Hi, I have a client who sent this to me today Please blacklist anything that has a .cz in the address line So the way that I see doing this is a filter with the following. ALLRECIPS END NOTCONTAINS @domain.com COUNTRIES 50 CONTAINS CZ MAILFROM50ENDSWITH

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist one Country for one Domain

2004-06-09 Thread Rick Davidson
I would focus on the mailfrom test, chances are the spam your client is complaining about did actually come from the country cz but definately nail it with the country test if thats what they want. you could even add a filter like anywhere 50 contains .cz (with a space after the .cz) anywhere

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist one Country for one Domain

2004-06-09 Thread Markus Gufler
Please blacklist anything that has a .cz in the address line COUNTRIES doesn't look at the address line as your customer asked for. It will filter if any IP-Address the contained in the mail header is assigned to the Czech republic. Why not use something like MAILFROM50

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist one Country for one Domain

2004-06-09 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Markus, I want to avail HOLD actions as much as possible (that way there is less work for me :) ALLRECIPS END NOTCONTAINS @domain.com MAILFROM50ENDSWITH .cz They way I understand a filter file is that is it applied and scored against every e-mail message that comes in. So for

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] LAST vs DYNA ip4r tests

2004-06-09 Thread Scott Fisher
Yesterday's results are more in line with what I expect. The -ALL are consistantly higher than the -LAST. I'll keep observing, but I have no explanation why things changed... Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/08/04 05:09PM Scott, Send me your log

[Declude.JunkMail] Filter Naming

2004-06-09 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Scott, Can I name a filter something like: SPECFIC-DOMAIN.COM Using the . Or do I have to stick with - SPECFIC-DOMAIN-COM Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filter Naming

2004-06-09 Thread R. Scott Perry
Can I name a filter something like: SPECFIC-DOMAIN.COM Using the . That will work fine. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader

[Declude.JunkMail] OT: Messagerite

2004-06-09 Thread Charles Frolick
Anybody have any experience with this company? A customer of mine has been asked to use this service for one of his customers and he is trying to figure out what they are really doing and if we can set up our own way of doing the archiving. Thanks, Chuck Frolick ArgoLink.net --- [This E-mail

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist one Country for one Domain

2004-06-09 Thread Scott Fisher
I'd avoid the ANYWHERE filter if possible. Perhaps replace it with HEADERS if that's what you want. The anywhere will include the body, and those short matches on the body seem to match on strange things in attachments and such a little too often for me. Also ANYWHERE will be pretty CPU

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Verify sender

2004-06-09 Thread R. Scott Perry
Is it possible, either through Declude JM or Imail, to verify the return address of an email is valid ... Declude JunkMail's MAILFROM test checks to make sure that the domain is valid. It does not check to see if the E-mail address is valid, as this is not very reliable (and can cause

[Declude.JunkMail] .zip files

2004-06-09 Thread Richard Farris
Does anyone know what are the zip files are that are being caught in SpamReview..This has been going on for a while and they look like viruses but evidently not but I can tell it is SPAMI was getting so many I decided to Ban .zip files but of course customers complain...so today I took

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Verify sender

2004-06-09 Thread Rick Davidson
You can do that in Imail on the SMTP Security tab be careful doing that cause it will affect alot of legit mail where gateways are used for example my mail domian is nat.com but the mx records point to my gateways which use the domain nat-mail.com Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North

[Declude.JunkMail] Error Code 2?

2004-06-09 Thread Bill Landry
Scott, can you tell me what might cause a situation like this where are the Declude spam tests are run, but then Declude cannot unlock the file because it has been deleted: 06/09/2004 11:15:46 Q53c7027b03ee31a5 Filter: Set min weight to -50. 06/09/2004 11:15:46 Q53c7027b03ee31a5 Triggered

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Blacklist one Country for one Domain

2004-06-09 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Thank you all for the input I got so caught up with the filtering that I forgot about the per-domain blacklist capability. So all I did was to add a .cz to the blacklist file for that domain and it took care of it. Got to remember the big picture :) Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Error Code 2?

2004-06-09 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott, can you tell me what might cause a situation like this where are the Declude spam tests are run, but then Declude cannot unlock the file because it has been deleted: 06/09/2004 11:15:47 Q53c7027b03ee31a5 WARNING:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Error Code 2?

2004-06-09 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott, can you tell me what might cause a situation like this where are the Declude spam tests are run, but then Declude cannot unlock the file because it has been deleted: 06/09/2004 11:15:47 Q53c7027b03ee31a5 WARNING:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Error Code 2?

2004-06-09 Thread R. Scott Perry
Scott, an odd thing about this is that the debug output shows that Alligate was returning a response code of 0 to Declude. I have sent you (off list) a copy of the debug output for a single message that was deleted, for your review. I would be curious to know why and how the message was getting

[Declude.JunkMail] How did the weight start at 68

2004-06-09 Thread Goran Jovanovic
This is the first log line for an e-mail that I used for testing. 06/09/2004 14:59:54 Q5e1f12a8012e3b47 Filter NIGERIAN: Skipping E-mail with a current weight of 68 (=48) Since this is the first filter in the global.cfg how did the weight start off at 68??? Goran Jovanovic The LAN

[Declude.JunkMail] Strange log action

2004-06-09 Thread GlobalWeb.net Webmaster
Has anyone seen this before - where a test name is preceded by a character in the logs (in this case : nIPNOTINMX) ? Test failure doesn't show up in the headers of the message (assuming due to altered name not matching Warn action) but the points are still added to the total failure points.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Error Code 2?

2004-06-09 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scott, an odd thing about this is that the debug output shows that Alligate was returning a response code of 0 to Declude. I have sent you (off list) a copy of the debug output for a single message that was deleted, for your

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] How did the weight start at 68

2004-06-09 Thread Matt
Filter test types run after all other tests besides weight and weightrange. So DNSBL, IP4R, RHSBL, external, spamdomains, ipfile, mailfrom and I think a few others will always run before the filter type is executed regardless of the order in your config. The individual filter files however

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] .zip files

2004-06-09 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Many stupid ridiculous e-mail server AV programs are configured to clean and deliver virus infected e-mails. This is probably what you are seeing. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

[Declude.JunkMail] Junk Mail Test

2004-06-09 Thread Jay Calvert
Hi all, I have an email that is getting caught on CMDSPACE test, but can't find any information on it in the Junkmail manual, are there other tests that are not listed there? Jay CalvertSystems AdministratorWeb Support ServicesCorporate IT Office: 604.275.3800Direct Phone:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Yahoo Bulk Mail

2004-06-09 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Well, I normally do not do this, but since I have a yahoo account, contact me off list, and I will have you have him send e-mail to my yahoo account, which I will then report as OK. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Way to punish null senders?

2004-06-09 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
MAILFROM 15 CONTAINS John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 8:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Exchange SMTP Greeting

2004-06-09 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I know it is in the Metabase. You can install and use MetaEdit from the resource kit CD, or search on the downloads page for it. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Junk Mail Test

2004-06-09 Thread Mike Hyslip
I believe outlook 2003 can cause this if it is connecting without authentication. If that is the client youre using, try enabling authentication for sending email and see if that clears it up? I had that happen, being marked as spam sending myself a test message. M From:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Off Topic? - Complaints from AOL

2004-06-09 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Problem is AOLs new REPORT SPAM button. What happens is a user on your server has his Imail forward his e-mail to his AOL address. When that user gets spam, he hits the REPORT SPAM button. Guess what, he just reported YOUR IP address. Another example of AOL stupidity. There

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Off Topic? - Complaints from AOL

2004-06-09 Thread Darin Cox
A case of the bug guy bullying everyone else...instead of fixing the problem and looking further up the chain to see the actual sender. On another note, they can't get their feedback loop notifications straight. We get a ton of them from a neighboring IP range. 6 weeks, half a dozen phone

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Exchange SMTP Greeting

2004-06-09 Thread Kevin Bilbee
John, Thank you, my local test worked using meta edit to change the Fully qualified host name for the SMTP service. Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Off Topic? - Complaints from AOL

2004-06-09 Thread Matt
How about their damn Joe-Job bounces coming back without even the content to tag? Then there's Earthlink and their challenge/response crap. These companies take all the PR they can get for "solving the spam problem" when they are in fact inhibiting the solution for the vast majority of us.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Strange log action

2004-06-09 Thread R. Scott Perry
Has anyone seen this before - where a test name is preceded by a character in the logs (in this case : nIPNOTINMX) ? That indicates a negative -- meaning that the E-mail did not fail the test, and had the weight change as a result. So: 06/09/2004 00:05:57 Q8c972f36011c17e2 SBL:6 CMDSPACE:3

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Junk Mail Test

2004-06-09 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have an email that is getting caught on CMDSPACE test, but can't find any information on it in the Junkmail manual, are there other tests that are not listed there? That's a beta test -- for beta features, you can check the release notes, or the list archives. If it is outgoing E-mail,

[Declude.JunkMail] Unique New Spam Test

2004-06-09 Thread Jay Calvert
Any hints? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Exchange SMTP Greeting

2004-06-09 Thread Goran Jovanovic
Kevin John, Isn't the field that you want on the properties page of the Default STMP Virtual Server Delivery Tab Advanced Button In the Fully-qualified domain name field I know that when I change this in Exchange 2000 or 2003 that is the name that the server identifies

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Exchange SMTP Greeting

2004-06-09 Thread Kevin Bilbee
That is it. Thank you, Kevin Bilbee -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Goran Jovanovic Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 5:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Exchange SMTP Greeting Kevin John, Isn't the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Exchange SMTP Greeting

2004-06-09 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Isn't the field that you want on the properties page of the Default STMP Virtual Server Delivery Tab Advanced Button In the Fully-qualified domain name field I know that when I change this in Exchange 2000 or 2003 that is the name that the server identifies itself as

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Off Topic? - Complaints from AOL

2004-06-09 Thread Andy Schmidt
Title: Message Well, in AOL's defense, they cannot know which of their clients is having mail forwarded. However, you may institute a policy that you will not permit forwarding to AOL - email has to be read locally at your server - or they can use one of the registrars to forward they