RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-25 Thread Matt Robertson
My experience with NJABL has been its absolutely solid. Not maybe what others have had. Just my 0.02. Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- [This E-mail

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have in one of my filter files the following line: BODY 5 STARTSWITH Yet, it is not catching the following: I believe there is an issue (that will be fixed in the next release) where the BODY STARTSWITH might not work properly (I believe it was including the CRLF separator).

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Deccon

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have the held.vbs running every 10 minutes, and it has only be sending notices occasionally about HOLD1. Hijack is configured as such: RELAYTHRESHOLD1 10 20 RELAYTHRESHOLD2 30 150 There are 3 C blocks of addresses allowed and 3 others per the client request. Should I try again

[Declude.JunkMail] CAN-SPAM

2003-11-25 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
What effect will this have on the endless work we are doing on here fighting spam ? Benny --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED],

[Declude.JunkMail] Redirect Spam to another folder

2003-11-25 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
Title: Redirect Spam to another folder Good morning, Sorry in advance if this has been covered. Is there a way to either: 1. Move the Spam folder that receives the hold emails out of the Imail\spool directory OR 2. Have emails with a hold action be placed in another folder

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Redirect Spam to another folder

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
1. Move the Spam folder that receives the hold emails out of the Imail\spool directory OR 2. Have emails with a hold action be placed in another folder totally? No, this is not possible -- but fairly high on the to do list. -Scott --- Declude

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-25 Thread Andy Schmidt
Well, Here is how my replacement tests are doing (turned off EasyNet at noon): DLAnalyzer(v2.0.B.I) Report Generated At 11/25/2003 12:19:41 AM For Argos.net Report Start Time: 11/24/2003 00:00:00 Report End Time: 11/24/2003 23:59:59 Total Messages: 12,777 Messages That Failed: 8,475 Spam

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-25 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
Where can i find this versjon of DLAnalyzer(v2.0.B.I) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Schmidt Sent: 25. november 2003 16:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements Well, Here is how

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-25 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi, Where can i find this versjon of DLAnalyzer(v2.0.B.I) Amazingly enough at: http://www.dlanalyzer.com G Best Regards Andy --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe,

[Declude.JunkMail] DLanalyzer

2003-11-25 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
The latest version of DLAnalyzer was released last week. The current version is 2.0R. Many new features were added including a GUI based configuration utility to ease configuration. There are many other reports it can generate besides the one listed below (Domain Summaries

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-25 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
yeah yeah but how to find more info about route problem Isn't this a faily high amount of routing failure ? Report Start Time: 11.25.2003 00:00:00 Report End Time: 11.25.2003 23:59:59 Total Messages: 28 149 Messages That Failed: 19 519 Spam Percentage: 69,34% TEST # FAILED

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-25 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi, How is your ROUTING test defined in your GLOBAL.CFG? Is that the 'SPAMROUTING' test? If so - yes, 42% seems extremely high. but how to find more info about route problem You should look into the headers of some of the emails that fail the ROUTE test. If you can't tell why they failed

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
Isn't this a faily high amount of routing failure ? Note that the ROUTING test is designed for mailservers in North America -- if your mailserver is located outside of North America, it will not work as well. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-25 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
IPBYPASS193.217.93.5 an extern server forwarding mail IPBYPASS213.236.237.186 a mail gateway local IPBYPASS213.236.237.163 a mail server local sending trough 186 IPBYPASS213.236.237.227 a mail server local sending trough 186 IPBYPASS213.236.237.228 a mail

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-25 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
So you say that i should take it out ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: 25. november 2003 18:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements Isn't this a faily high amount of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-25 Thread ISPhuset Nordic AS
but for an example Received: from mailgw1.mailserveren.com [213.236.237.228] by mailserveren.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.13) id AFA214230116; Tue, 25 Nov 2003 17:13:22 +0100 Received: from mail.fluidhosting.com (mail.fluidhosting.com [66.150.201.72]) by mailgw1.mailserveren.com (Postfix)

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SPAMROUTING, high failure rate

2003-11-25 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi, If 42% of your mail fails the routing test, then you probably will get such a mail sometime today and you can post the header then? Also - note Scott's response. It appears as if the SPAMROUTING test is hard-wired to the U.S. That alone may be a clue to what's going on. The headers will

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] CAN-SPAM

2003-11-25 Thread Dan Geiser
I predict no effect. - Original Message - From: ISPhuset Nordic AS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:46 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] CAN-SPAM What effect will this have on the endless work we are doing on here fighting spam ? Benny ---

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] EasyNet Replacements

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
So you say that i should take it out ? Unless you have reason to believe that it will be a useful test for you, you may want to remove it. Because of the way that IPs are allocated, it only works as designed if the mailserver receiving the mail is in North America (IPs allocated by ARIN).

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
I know you are busy, but I need to ask. When can we expect that? One of the servers I am working on is getting about 500 of these a day. All from different IPs and domains. Only common characteristic is the body starts with g and has a blank subject line, and I do not want to raise the weight of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
I know you are busy, but I need to ask. When can we expect that? You know the rule -- ask and ye shall receive. :) http://www.declude.com/release/176i/declude.exe has 1.76i27, which has this change in it. Note that this specific interim release will also record one log file entry to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread Keith Johnson
Scott, For those of us that have had email (daily) skipping Declude calling would it be good for us to move up to the 1.76i27 to have that logged for you? Keith -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
For those of us that have had email (daily) skipping Declude calling would it be good for us to move up to the 1.76i27 to have that logged for you? Yes, that would be a good idea. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] CAN-SPAM

2003-11-25 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
I predict it will make no difference in blocking spam; it will however, lower your rate of false positives because it will be easier to identify trustworthy e-mail partners. Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: ISPhuset Nordic AS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread Kami Razvan
Scott: Are all those features recently talked about included in this release? Skip Max weight? Regards, Kami -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Johnson Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
Are all those features recently talked about included in this release? Skip Max weight? Yes. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers. Declude Virus: Catches known viruses and is the leader in

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread Kami Razvan
:) How subtle you are... Just YES.. Just like that.. This calls for celebration... This indeed is great news. So I guess we should start ordering our tests in the order we want them executed and then start adding the codes to the top of the filter. When are you planning to elaborate on your

[Declude.JunkMail] X-Declude-Sender

2003-11-25 Thread Danny Klopfer
I would like to try and compile a list of IP's and senders to add to my kill.lst and to the SMTP Access Table to stop more mail at the front door. Any recommendations on the best method to do this? I have a lot of messages in the hold folder that I could search for. Should I just search for the

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread Nick Hayer
Wow! Very kool. Thanks Scott! -Nick Date sent: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:11:33 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH Send reply to:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Deccon

2003-11-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Typical network administration function. It is working fine now, max CPU is 3% momentarily. I have held.vbs checking every minute and so far only about 10 notifications in the last hour, and only 4-6 at a time. I will continue to monitor and see what happens. John Tolmachoff

[Declude.JunkMail] Test order

2003-11-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Now with the added features, what is the order by type in which the tests are run? External Filter Fromfile Ip4r Rhsbl And does the order in which they are listed in the global.cfg matter? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Test order

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
Now with the added features, what is the order by type in which the tests are run? External Filter Fromfile Ip4r Rhsbl Unfortunately, we do not have this information easily available at this time. And does the order in which they are listed in the global.cfg matter? It rarely matters. Cases

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Deccon

2003-11-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
That first line was supposed to be frustration, not function. :( John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists) Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Test order

2003-11-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
Am I missing something? Should I be subscribed to a different list? Or are you just wondering about things when they are released? Thanks, Matt John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: Now with the added features, what is the order by type in which the tests are run? External Filter Fromfile Ip4r

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread Nick Hayer
Scott, Is there an order to which tests are executed in the global config? Are filterfiles read/executed last? Is there any way to determine the order that each filterfile is run ? Thanks -Nick Hayer Date sent: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 15:11:33 -0500 To:

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
Ok, I was reading backwards and just saw this :) I'm going to code up GIBBERISH to work in this fashion so that the functionality as well as the filter modification can be tested out. I'll share it tomorrow probably. Lots of playing around to do though :) At least it still feels something

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
Are filterfiles read/executed last? They are close to the last tests run. Is there any way to determine the order that each filterfile is run ? They will be run in the order they are defined in the global.cfg file. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Test order

2003-11-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
??? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Bramble Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Test

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread Nick Hayer
Thanks Scott! Another question: Very kool addition but I'm having trouble with MAXWEIGHT Gotta be simple but I just don't get it: DJMPro v1.76i27 I created a filter called testfilter.txt it contains SKIPIFWEIGHT 40 MAXWEIGHT 20 HEADERS 1 CONTAINSfrom I sent myself an

[Declude.JunkMail] SUBJECT ISBLANK

2003-11-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Scott, I am ROFLOL at this: 11/17/2003 12:12:20 Q2ba00068020856ba Triggered ISBLANK filter BASICFILTER on THIS_STRING_SHOULD_NEVER_BE_IN_AN_EMAIL_OR_IT_WILL_BE_MARKED_AS_SPAM [weight-5]. Some times, you are just too funny. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] SUBJECT ISBLANK

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
Scott, I am ROFLOL at this: 11/17/2003 12:12:20 Q2ba00068020856ba Triggered ISBLANK filter BASICFILTER on THIS_STRING_SHOULD_NEVER_BE_IN_AN_EMAIL_OR_IT_WILL_BE_MARKED_AS_SPAM [weight-5]. Some times, you are just too funny. :) Actually, that was designed for internal use, and wasn't meant to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
Very kool addition but I'm having trouble with MAXWEIGHT Gotta be simple but I just don't get it: DJMPro v1.76i27 I created a filter called testfilter.txt it contains SKIPIFWEIGHT 40 MAXWEIGHT 20 HEADERS 1 CONTAINSfrom This should [1] skip the test completely if the weight

[Declude.JunkMail] Clarification..needed

2003-11-25 Thread Kami Razvan
Scott: I added the following: SKIPIFWEIGHT60MAXWEIGHT60 I thought this would force the filter to skip if the weight is 60 and if the weight inside the filter reaches 60 it should also exit. Interestingly enough none of the filters that have this at the top ever execute. Regards, Kami

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification..needed

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
I added the following: SKIPIFWEIGHT 60 MAXWEIGHT 60 I thought this would force the filter to skip if the weight is 60 and if the weight inside the filter reaches 60 it should also exit. Interestingly enough none of the filters that have this at the top ever execute. There is a new interim

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread Matthew Bramble
Munged twice so far, so I am resending this time without the zip file attachment in the event that there is some sort of restriction on this. The referenced file can be downloaded from the following link: http://www.mailpure.com/software/decludefilters/gibberish/Gibberish_v2-0-0.txt Matt

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Clarification..needed

2003-11-25 Thread Kami Razvan
Hi Scott: What I did was to move all of our negative weights to the top of the global.cfg file. None of our filter files have mixed positive negative weights- they are either all positive or all negative. Considering what you stated earlier that the tests are run according to the order they

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Another performance question

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
If I were to create a custom DNS based blacklist on a DNS server, how would that perform compared to a fromfile or filter file with MAILFROM ENDSWITH? MAILFROM ENDSWITH would perform a bit better. The DNS-based blacklist would have extra network overhead -- such as the CPU time

[Declude.JunkMail] Another performance question

2003-11-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
If I were to create a custom DNS based blacklist on a DNS server, how would that perform compared to a fromfile or filter file with MAILFROM ENDSWITH? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Another performance question

2003-11-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Thanks. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 4:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail]

[Declude.JunkMail] Setting up local DNSBL

2003-11-25 Thread Jason Newland
I have been thinking about setting up an in-house DNSBL and would appreciate it if some kind person here could point me in the right direction on getting started. I can pretty much figure out how to create a e-mail submission for the service when I want to make updates, but I'm not to sure on the

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Setting up local DNSBL

2003-11-25 Thread R. Scott Perry
I have been thinking about setting up an in-house DNSBL and would appreciate it if some kind person here could point me in the right direction on getting started. I can pretty much figure out how to create a e-mail submission for the service when I want to make updates, but I'm not to sure on

[Declude.JunkMail] Why was this message delivered?

2003-11-25 Thread T. Bradley Dean
A message was delivered with a weight of 38. The logs show this: 11/25/2003 01:09:06 Q1c273da Msg failed WEIGHT10 (Weight of 38 reaches or exceeds the limit of 10.). Action=WARN. 11/25/2003 01:09:06 Q1c273da Msg failed WEIGHT15 (Weight of 38 reaches or exceeds the limit of 15.). Action=MAILBOX.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] BODY STARTSWITH

2003-11-25 Thread andyb
Scott, Is there a summary of the new tests, what they do and how to use them? It's almost like there needs to be class to go to, for setting up filters. Today I discovered that some of the adjustments I've made to config files were catching legitimate list serv mailand so it goes. Is there

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Why was this message delivered?

2003-11-25 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
What version of JunkMail (Pro or Standard) and what version of Imail? MAILBOX is only available in JunkMail Pro. Could that message have been White Listed? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-