[Declude.JunkMail] mail server software

2009-02-03 Thread Bruce Loughlin
I am going to move from Imail soon. Does any one have any recommendations on reasonable Mail Server software. we need maybe 200 users, and we just pop our mail now. I have been using Workgroup Share to add calendar sharing etc to our current config. Has any one used their Mail Server software and

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS lookup fail, yet e-mail passes spam tests

2009-02-03 Thread Harry vanderzand
Anyone have any ideas on this topic? Thank you Harry Vanderzand Intown Internet 117 Ruskview Road Kitchener, ON, N2M 4S1 519-741-1222 From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Harry vanderzand Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 4:04 PM To:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] mail server software

2009-02-03 Thread David Barker
Smartermail would be a good and easy solution, 1. You can transfer your current Declude license (provided you have a valid service agreement) 2. Has the features you need 3. 50 Domain 200 Users Enterprise version is only $449.10 from Declude 4. Used my many ex-IMail admins so lots of

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS lookup fail, yet e-mail passes spam tests

2009-02-03 Thread Harry vanderzand
Sorry but I am not sure what you mean by outbound in the sample below. I also do not know what specific test should be triggered other than something should be. Here I have mail coming in from a domain. DNS lookup on their MX record fails. Is that not a big flag that this is likely Spam?

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS lookup fail, yet e-mail passes spam tests

2009-02-03 Thread David Barker
Some email server has the task of sending out email and not receiving email, (eg. An online order system) it would not require and MX record as it does not need to receive email, therefore the fact that an MX record does not exist is not a good indicator for spam. David B From:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] mail server software

2009-02-03 Thread Todd Richards
David - Is there still a discount for SM through Declude? Todd -Original Message- From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 9:05 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] mail server

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS lookup fail, yet e-mail passes spam tests

2009-02-03 Thread Randy Armbrecht
MX records are for incoming mail servers - not outgoing mail servers. If an organization uses a different server for outbound other than the same server(s) used for inbound mail, then that outbound server will not have an MX record. It should by all correct practices have an A record and a PTR

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS lookup fail, yet e-mail passes spam tests

2009-02-03 Thread Harry vanderzand
I would agree. However if a record exists but the server does not, I would want to add a bit to my weight score. It certainly shows that something is not right However, thank you for the explanation Thank you Harry Vanderzand Intown Internet 117 Ruskview Road Kitchener, ON, N2M

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS lookup fail, yet e-mail passes spam tests

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
Hi, I think there are two different issues: a) As stated by others, the mail SERVER is NOT required to have an MX record (seldomly will!) and is not required to be referenced in the domain's MX record (in case it's an outbound server only). b) However, I reject mails from

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS lookup fail, yet e-mail passes spam tests

2009-02-03 Thread Andy Schmidt
I wouldn't add anything to the score because it's very common (specially for larger organizations) to have dedicated outbound servers, while all MX records point to their anti-spam/anti-virus gateways! The better approach would be to REDUCE the weight score if you receive mail from a mail

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] DNS lookup fail, yet e-mail passes spam tests

2009-02-03 Thread David Barker
Hi Harry, As far as I know mail servers that are strictly outbound don't need to use an MX record. What test do you think this should trigger ? David B From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of Harry vanderzand Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:03 AM To:

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Mailfrom Processing

2009-02-03 Thread Dave Beckstrom
Here is a snippet of an email header for an email received: Return-Path: i...@clockpleas.com Mon Feb 02 16:35:28 2009 Received: from mail.clockpleas.com [64.235.54.175] by xxx.xxx.com with SMTP; Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:35:28 -0600 From: J. Cummuta i...@clockpleas.com To: x...@xxx.com Subject: Even

re: [Declude.JunkMail] mail server software

2009-02-03 Thread Michael Graveen
I use SmarterMail (www.smartertools.com) and like it a lot. SmarterTools has conversion tools to help you migrate your IMail domains to SmarterMail. Hope this helps. Mike I am going to move from Imail soon. Does any one have any recommendations on