RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
Mike, Your service agreement expired in 31 Aug 2007, so I don’t know if the issue you are having is recent, but from our records it seems you are 7 months behind on releases. There could certainly have been a fix for your specific problem in this time, this is the purpose of maintaining an active service agreement. David B From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hardrick Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:13 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew How many pairs of eyes does it take. I gave remote access to two of the Declude tech support team and yet the problems persist. I have no doubt that the software works, but I don’t have the time to constantly deal with the issues. I’ve since purchased three more HP servers and just don’t use the IMail and Declude any more for new customers. I’ve also moved several of the domains off the old server and when all is said and done I’ll scrap the install and use the server for other needs. Mike TNWEB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 6:31 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Michael, in cases such as yours, it may be a good idea to get an outside pair of eyes on the server. Many of us are running multiple servers with no problems what so ever, occasional blips not withstanding. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: Michael Hardrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent 4/18/2008 8:44:05 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Greetings All, I hate to be a “Naysayer”, but I will not be renewing Declude. I don’t usually write negative reviews, but this is an exception. I’ve lost several customers due to our inability to get Declude to function. I’ve been using the product since about 2000. The past three years have been dismal. Between spools filling up, system crashes, CPU loads at 100%, Memory Leaks, Application Errors, Application Hangs, GP Faults, etc... Declude support was always there… to point the finger back at me and the server. Bad DNS servers, Bad Memory, Bad CPUs, or something wrong with the version of Windows I was running. I purchased a HP Proliant (2CPUs, 6-146GB HDD, 4-GB RAM, Win2k3) and thought that would resolve the issues. The server I have running must have cron jobs to reboot the server every morning at 5AM and restart the declude service every two hours. We login into the server daily to clear pop-up errors off the server. http://www.tnweb.com/images/declude-error1.png This is the only way to keep the server running. I keep a very limited amount of traffic on the server. No need to push the envelope. Regards, Mike Hardrick TNWEB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Edmonds Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:37 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I second that. I am not trying to brown nose or anything here but without declude we would be completely screwed. In 3 years with declude I think I have only had to email them once with a support query and that was answered pretty much within an hour. Sure, some spam gets through now and again but there have been times where I have mucked about with the declude config settings and the spam floodgates opened and boy, my clients noticed the difference and were thanking me the next day. I have no problem renewing my subscriptions every year. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet www.123marbella.net LEGAL DISCLAIMER - This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby informed that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please delete it and any copies of it and notify it to the sender. AVISO LEGAL - Este mensaje puede contener informacion confidencial, en propiedad o legalmente protegida y esta dirigida unicamente para el uso de la persona destinataria. Si usted no es la persona destinataria de este mensaje, por la presente se le comunica que no debe usar, difundir, copiar de ninguna forma, ni emprender ninguna accion en relacion con ella. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephan Chayer Sent: 03 April 2008 22:21 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Dan, Todd, I feel a little like you. We are using, selling and supporting Declude for the past 4 years. It works great for us. Especially since they brought up version 4 including Commtouch and AVG, that was a nice move. We went through
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
Hmm… I’ve had this problem for well over a year and I’m currently running: D:\IMaildecludeproc.exe -v Declude Version 4.3.46 for IMail Mike TNWEB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 9:49 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Mike, Your service agreement expired in 31 Aug 2007, so I don’t know if the issue you are having is recent, but from our records it seems you are 7 months behind on releases. There could certainly have been a fix for your specific problem in this time, this is the purpose of maintaining an active service agreement. David B From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Hardrick Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:13 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew How many pairs of eyes does it take. I gave remote access to two of the Declude tech support team and yet the problems persist. I have no doubt that the software works, but I don’t have the time to constantly deal with the issues. I’ve since purchased three more HP servers and just don’t use the IMail and Declude any more for new customers. I’ve also moved several of the domains off the old server and when all is said and done I’ll scrap the install and use the server for other needs. Mike TNWEB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 6:31 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Michael, in cases such as yours, it may be a good idea to get an outside pair of eyes on the server. Many of us are running multiple servers with no problems what so ever, occasional blips not withstanding. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: Michael Hardrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent 4/18/2008 8:44:05 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Greetings All, I hate to be a “Naysayer”, but I will not be renewing Declude. I don’t usually write negative reviews, but this is an exception. I’ve lost several customers due to our inability to get Declude to function. I’ve been using the product since about 2000. The past three years have been dismal. Between spools filling up, system crashes, CPU loads at 100%, Memory Leaks, Application Errors, Application Hangs, GP Faults, etc... Declude support was always there… to point the finger back at me and the server. Bad DNS servers, Bad Memory, Bad CPUs, or something wrong with the version of Windows I was running. I purchased a HP Proliant (2CPUs, 6-146GB HDD, 4-GB RAM, Win2k3) and thought that would resolve the issues. The server I have running must have cron jobs to reboot the server every morning at 5AM and restart the declude service every two hours. We login into the server daily to clear pop-up errors off the server. http://www.tnweb.com/images/declude-error1.png This is the only way to keep the server running. I keep a very limited amount of traffic on the server. No need to push the envelope. Regards, Mike Hardrick TNWEB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Edmonds Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:37 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I second that. I am not trying to brown nose or anything here but without declude we would be completely screwed. In 3 years with declude I think I have only had to email them once with a support query and that was answered pretty much within an hour. Sure, some spam gets through now and again but there have been times where I have mucked about with the declude config settings and the spam floodgates opened and boy, my clients noticed the difference and were thanking me the next day. I have no problem renewing my subscriptions every year. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet www.123marbella.net LEGAL DISCLAIMER - This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby informed that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please delete it and any copies of it and notify it to the sender. AVISO LEGAL - Este mensaje puede contener informacion confidencial, en propiedad o legalmente protegida y esta dirigida unicamente para el uso de la persona destinataria. Si usted no es la persona destinataria de este mensaje, por la presente se le comunica que no debe usar, difundir, copiar de ninguna forma, ni emprender ninguna accion en relacion con ella. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephan Chayer Sent
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
Michael, Judging by that screen cap you are having a rough time to say the least. I am sure you have exhausted a ton of options, but have you turned off DEP for Declude? I have seen repeated crashes like that on a system which did not exclude Declude under DEP. Darrell -- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Michael Hardrick wrote: Greetings All, I hate to be a “Naysayer”, but I will not be renewing Declude. I don’t usually write negative reviews, but this is an exception. I’ve lost several customers due to our inability to get Declude to function. I’ve been using the product since about 2000. The past three years have been dismal. Between spools filling up, system crashes, CPU loads at 100%, Memory Leaks, Application Errors, Application Hangs, GP Faults, etc... Declude support was always there… to point the finger back at me and the server. Bad DNS servers, Bad Memory, Bad CPUs, or something wrong with the version of Windows I was running. I purchased a HP Proliant (2CPUs, 6-146GB HDD, 4-GB RAM, Win2k3) and thought that would resolve the issues. The server I have running must have cron jobs to reboot the server every morning at 5AM and restart the declude service every two hours. We login into the server daily to clear pop-up errors off the server. http://www.tnweb.com/images/declude-error1.png This is the only way to keep the server running. I keep a very limited amount of traffic on the server. No need to push the envelope. Regards, Mike Hardrick TNWEB *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Craig Edmonds *Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:37 PM *To:* declude.junkmail@declude.com *Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I second that. I am not trying to brown nose or anything here but without declude we would be completely screwed. In 3 years with declude I think I have only had to email them once with a support query and that was answered pretty much within an hour. Sure, some spam gets through now and again but there have been times where I have mucked about with the declude config settings and the spam floodgates opened and boy, my clients noticed the difference and were thanking me the next day. I have no problem renewing my subscriptions every year. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet _www.123marbella.net_ LEGAL DISCLAIMER - This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby informed that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please delete it and any copies of it and notify it to the sender. AVISO LEGAL - Este mensaje puede contener informacion confidencial, en propiedad o legalmente protegida y esta dirigida unicamente para el uso de la persona destinataria. Si usted no es la persona destinataria de este mensaje, por la presente se le comunica que no debe usar, difundir, copiar de ninguna forma, ni emprender ninguna accion en relacion con ella. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Stephan Chayer *Sent:* 03 April 2008 22:21 *To:* declude.junkmail@declude.com *Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Dan, Todd, I feel a little like you. We are using, selling and supporting Declude for the past 4 years. It works great for us. Especially since they brought up version 4 including Commtouch and AVG, that was a nice move. We went through all the product and pricing changes for the past years. We were surprised when they conbined all the products but they honoured all the previous purchases from all our customers. We deal with other vendors that would have been much more agressive that Declude in some situations. I believe that Decluce's pricing is fair and attractive for customers, the product works well and the support is just amazing. Bottom line, if you do not make money, you can't give support and put ameliorations in a product. I wish that everyone could continue to do business and make money. Keep the good work Stephan Chayer IntraSoft Solutions Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *De :* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *De la part de* Linda Pagillo *Envoyé :* 3 avril, 2008 14:35 *À :* declude.junkmail@declude.com *Objet :* Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Thank you Todd. It's my pleasure! If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
Hi Michael, I am sorry to hear you are having a struggle, but I am running mine on HP servers also and have had no real problems at all in fact I have not had to reboot my server for over 18 months now. Is your server a dedicated mail server or do you run anything else on it? Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: 19 April 2008 15:33 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Michael, Judging by that screen cap you are having a rough time to say the least. I am sure you have exhausted a ton of options, but have you turned off DEP for Declude? I have seen repeated crashes like that on a system which did not exclude Declude under DEP. Darrell -- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Michael Hardrick wrote: Greetings All, I hate to be a Naysayer, but I will not be renewing Declude. I dont usually write negative reviews, but this is an exception. Ive lost several customers due to our inability to get Declude to function. Ive been using the product since about 2000. The past three years have been dismal. Between spools filling up, system crashes, CPU loads at 100%, Memory Leaks, Application Errors, Application Hangs, GP Faults, etc... Declude support was always there to point the finger back at me and the server. Bad DNS servers, Bad Memory, Bad CPUs, or something wrong with the version of Windows I was running. I purchased a HP Proliant (2CPUs, 6-146GB HDD, 4-GB RAM, Win2k3) and thought that would resolve the issues. The server I have running must have cron jobs to reboot the server every morning at 5AM and restart the declude service every two hours. We login into the server daily to clear pop-up errors off the server. http://www.tnweb.com/images/declude-error1.png This is the only way to keep the server running. I keep a very limited amount of traffic on the server. No need to push the envelope. Regards, Mike Hardrick TNWEB *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Craig Edmonds *Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:37 PM *To:* declude.junkmail@declude.com *Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I second that. I am not trying to brown nose or anything here but without declude we would be completely screwed. In 3 years with declude I think I have only had to email them once with a support query and that was answered pretty much within an hour. Sure, some spam gets through now and again but there have been times where I have mucked about with the declude config settings and the spam floodgates opened and boy, my clients noticed the difference and were thanking me the next day. I have no problem renewing my subscriptions every year. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet _www.123marbella.net_ LEGAL DISCLAIMER - This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby informed that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please delete it and any copies of it and notify it to the sender. AVISO LEGAL - Este mensaje puede contener informacion confidencial, en propiedad o legalmente protegida y esta dirigida unicamente para el uso de la persona destinataria. Si usted no es la persona destinataria de este mensaje, por la presente se le comunica que no debe usar, difundir, copiar de ninguna forma, ni emprender ninguna accion en relacion con ella. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Stephan Chayer *Sent:* 03 April 2008 22:21 *To:* declude.junkmail@declude.com *Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Dan, Todd, I feel a little like you. We are using, selling and supporting Declude for the past 4 years. It works great for us. Especially since they brought up version 4 including Commtouch and AVG, that was a nice move. We went through all the product and pricing changes for the past years. We were surprised when they conbined all the products but they honoured all the previous purchases from all our customers. We deal with other vendors that would have been much more agressive that Declude in some situations. I believe that Decluce's pricing is fair and attractive for customers, the product works
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
This server only runs IMail with ISS Webmail and Declude. If I turn Declude off and just run IMail by itself it runs flawless, but w/o the anti-virus/anti-spam protection. I started running Declude back in the day when there were no protection options for IMail and Scott had a way to put hooks into the SMTP and do the scans before deliver to the main.mbx. The only problem I had back then was the lack of a manual. Today, there are too many options with other software vendors to bang my head against the wall and stay on the phone with tech support for hours/days trying to figure this out. I lost SEVERAL customers that regarded my company as being an expert on the services we offer. It's hard to explain to them that it's a software issue when they just want email to work. Mike TNWEB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Edmonds Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 11:17 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Hi Michael, I am sorry to hear you are having a struggle, but I am running mine on HP servers also and have had no real problems at all in fact I have not had to reboot my server for over 18 months now. Is your server a dedicated mail server or do you run anything else on it? Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: 19 April 2008 15:33 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Michael, Judging by that screen cap you are having a rough time to say the least. I am sure you have exhausted a ton of options, but have you turned off DEP for Declude? I have seen repeated crashes like that on a system which did not exclude Declude under DEP. Darrell -- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Michael Hardrick wrote: Greetings All, I hate to be a Naysayer, but I will not be renewing Declude. I dont usually write negative reviews, but this is an exception. Ive lost several customers due to our inability to get Declude to function. Ive been using the product since about 2000. The past three years have been dismal. Between spools filling up, system crashes, CPU loads at 100%, Memory Leaks, Application Errors, Application Hangs, GP Faults, etc... Declude support was always there to point the finger back at me and the server. Bad DNS servers, Bad Memory, Bad CPUs, or something wrong with the version of Windows I was running. I purchased a HP Proliant (2CPUs, 6-146GB HDD, 4-GB RAM, Win2k3) and thought that would resolve the issues. The server I have running must have cron jobs to reboot the server every morning at 5AM and restart the declude service every two hours. We login into the server daily to clear pop-up errors off the server. http://www.tnweb.com/images/declude-error1.png This is the only way to keep the server running. I keep a very limited amount of traffic on the server. No need to push the envelope. Regards, Mike Hardrick TNWEB *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Craig Edmonds *Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:37 PM *To:* declude.junkmail@declude.com *Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I second that. I am not trying to brown nose or anything here but without declude we would be completely screwed. In 3 years with declude I think I have only had to email them once with a support query and that was answered pretty much within an hour. Sure, some spam gets through now and again but there have been times where I have mucked about with the declude config settings and the spam floodgates opened and boy, my clients noticed the difference and were thanking me the next day. I have no problem renewing my subscriptions every year. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet _www.123marbella.net_ LEGAL DISCLAIMER - This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby informed that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please delete it and any copies of it and notify it to the sender. AVISO LEGAL - Este mensaje puede contener informacion confidencial, en propiedad o legalmente protegida y esta dirigida unicamente para el uso de la persona destinataria. Si usted no es la persona destinataria de
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
I have not had to reboot my server for over 18 months now. What do you do about Windows security patches? Mike Hi Michael, I am sorry to hear you are having a struggle, but I am running mine on HP servers also and have had no real problems at all in fact I have not had to reboot my server for over 18 months now. Is your server a dedicated mail server or do you run anything else on it? Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet W: www.123marbella.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: 19 April 2008 15:33 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Michael, Judging by that screen cap you are having a rough time to say the least. I am sure you have exhausted a ton of options, but have you turned off DEP for Declude? I have seen repeated crashes like that on a system which did not exclude Declude under DEP. Darrell -- Check out http://www.invariantsystems.com for utilities for Declude, Imail, mxGuard, and ORF. IMail/Declude Overflow Queue Monitoring, SURBL/URI integration, MRTG Integration, and Log Parsers. Michael Hardrick wrote: Greetings All, I hate to be a Naysayer, but I will not be renewing Declude. I dont usually write negative reviews, but this is an exception. Ive lost several customers due to our inability to get Declude to function. Ive been using the product since about 2000. The past three years have been dismal. Between spools filling up, system crashes, CPU loads at 100%, Memory Leaks, Application Errors, Application Hangs, GP Faults, etc... Declude support was always there to point the finger back at me and the server. Bad DNS servers, Bad Memory, Bad CPUs, or something wrong with the version of Windows I was running. I purchased a HP Proliant (2CPUs, 6-146GB HDD, 4-GB RAM, Win2k3) and thought that would resolve the issues. The server I have running must have cron jobs to reboot the server every morning at 5AM and restart the declude service every two hours. We login into the server daily to clear pop-up errors off the server. http://www.tnweb.com/images/declude-error1.png This is the only way to keep the server running. I keep a very limited amount of traffic on the server. No need to push the envelope. Regards, Mike Hardrick TNWEB *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Craig Edmonds *Sent:* Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:37 PM *To:* declude.junkmail@declude.com *Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I second that. I am not trying to brown nose or anything here but without declude we would be completely screwed. In 3 years with declude I think I have only had to email them once with a support query and that was answered pretty much within an hour. Sure, some spam gets through now and again but there have been times where I have mucked about with the declude config settings and the spam floodgates opened and boy, my clients noticed the difference and were thanking me the next day. I have no problem renewing my subscriptions every year. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet _www.123marbella.net_ LEGAL DISCLAIMER - This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby informed that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please delete it and any copies of it and notify it to the sender. AVISO LEGAL - Este mensaje puede contener informacion confidencial, en propiedad o legalmente protegida y esta dirigida unicamente para el uso de la persona destinataria. Si usted no es la persona destinataria de este mensaje, por la presente se le comunica que no debe usar, difundir, copiar de ninguna forma, ni emprender ninguna accion en relacion con ella. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Stephan Chayer *Sent:* 03 April 2008 22:21 *To:* declude.junkmail@declude.com *Subject:* RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Dan, Todd, I feel a little like you. We are using, selling and supporting Declude for the past 4 years. It works great for us. Especially since they brought up version 4 including Commtouch and AVG, that was a nice move. We went through all the product and pricing changes for the past years. We were surprised when they conbined all the products but they honoured all the previous purchases from all our customers. We deal with other vendors that would have been much more agressive that Declude
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
Michael, in cases such as yours, it may be a good idea to get an outside pair
of eyes on the server.
Many of us are running multiple servers with no problems what so ever,
occasional blips not withstanding.John T
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Greetings All,I hate to be a “Naysayer”, but I will not be renewing Declude. I
don’t usually write negative reviews, but this is an exception.I’ve lost
several customers due to our inability to get Declude to function.I’ve been
using the product since about 2000. The past threeyears have been dismal.
Between spools filling up, system crashes,CPU loads at 100%, Memory Leaks,
Application Errors, Application Hangs,GP Faults, etc... Declude support was
always there… to point the finger back at meand the server. Bad DNS servers,
Bad Memory, Bad CPUs, or somethingwrong with the version of Windows I was
running. I purchased a HP Proliant (2CPUs, 6-146GB HDD, 4-GB RAM, Win2k3) and
thoughtthat would resolve the issues. The server I have running must have cron
jobs to reboot the serverevery morning at 5AM and restart the declude service
every two hours.We login into the server daily to clear pop-up errors off the
server.http://www.tnweb.com/images/declude-error1.png This is the only way to
keep the server running. I keep a very limited amountof traffic on the
server. No need to push the envelope. Regards,Mike HardrickTNWEB From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig EdmondsSent:
Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:37 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Reasons to renew I second that.
I am not trying to brown nose or anything here but without declude we would be
completely screwed.
In 3 years with declude I think I have only had to email them once with a
support query and that was answered pretty much within an hour.
Sure, some spam gets through now and again but there have been times where I
have mucked about with the declude config settings and the spam floodgates
opened and boy, my clients noticed the difference and were thanking me the next
day.
I have no problem renewing my subscriptions every year. Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds
123 Marbella Internetwww.123marbella.net LEGAL DISCLAIMER - This message may
contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information and is
intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the
intended recipient of this message you are hereby informed that you must not
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you have received this message in error please delete it and any copies of it
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ella. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephan
ChayerSent: 03 April 2008 22:21To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [Declude.JunkMail]
Reasons to renew Dan, Todd, I feel a little like you. We are using,
selling and supporting Declude for the past 4 years. It works great for us.
Especially since they brought up version 4 including Commtouch and AVG, that
was a nice move. We went through all the product and pricing changes for the
past years. We were surprised when they conbined all the products but they
honoured all the previous purchases from all our customers. We deal with other
vendors that would have been much more agressive that Declude in some
situations. I believe that Decluce's pricing is fair and attractive for
customers, the product works well and the support is just amazing. Bottom
line, if you do not make money, you can't give support and put ameliorations in
a product. I wish that everyone could continue to do business and make
money. Keep the good work Stephan ChayerIntraSoft Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Linda PagilloEnvoyé :
3 avril, 2008 14:35À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to
renewThank you Todd. It's my pleasure! If you have any further questions,
please do not hesitate to contact me
either by email or call Toll free 1-866-332-5833 Ext.2 Linda Pagillo
Technical Support Engineer | Declude Your Email Security is our
business Direct: 978-225-8436
Office: 978.499.2933 Ext.2
Toll Free: 1-866.332.5833 Ext.2
Fax: 978.334.0700
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Original Message - From:Todd RichardsTo:[EMAIL
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
How many pairs of eyes does it take. I gave remote access to two of the Declude tech support team and yet the problems persist. I have no doubt that the software works, but I don’t have the time to constantly deal with the issues. I’ve since purchased three more HP servers and just don’t use the IMail and Declude any more for new customers. I’ve also moved several of the domains off the old server and when all is said and done I’ll scrap the install and use the server for other needs. Mike TNWEB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 6:31 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Michael, in cases such as yours, it may be a good idea to get an outside pair of eyes on the server. Many of us are running multiple servers with no problems what so ever, occasional blips not withstanding. John T eServices For You -Original Message- From: Michael Hardrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent 4/18/2008 8:44:05 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Greetings All, I hate to be a “Naysayer”, but I will not be renewing Declude. I don’t usually write negative reviews, but this is an exception. I’ve lost several customers due to our inability to get Declude to function. I’ve been using the product since about 2000. The past three years have been dismal. Between spools filling up, system crashes, CPU loads at 100%, Memory Leaks, Application Errors, Application Hangs, GP Faults, etc... Declude support was always there… to point the finger back at me and the server. Bad DNS servers, Bad Memory, Bad CPUs, or something wrong with the version of Windows I was running. I purchased a HP Proliant (2CPUs, 6-146GB HDD, 4-GB RAM, Win2k3) and thought that would resolve the issues. The server I have running must have cron jobs to reboot the server every morning at 5AM and restart the declude service every two hours. We login into the server daily to clear pop-up errors off the server. http://www.tnweb.com/images/declude-error1.png This is the only way to keep the server running. I keep a very limited amount of traffic on the server. No need to push the envelope. Regards, Mike Hardrick TNWEB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Edmonds Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:37 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I second that. I am not trying to brown nose or anything here but without declude we would be completely screwed. In 3 years with declude I think I have only had to email them once with a support query and that was answered pretty much within an hour. Sure, some spam gets through now and again but there have been times where I have mucked about with the declude config settings and the spam floodgates opened and boy, my clients noticed the difference and were thanking me the next day. I have no problem renewing my subscriptions every year. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet www.123marbella.net LEGAL DISCLAIMER - This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby informed that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please delete it and any copies of it and notify it to the sender. AVISO LEGAL - Este mensaje puede contener informacion confidencial, en propiedad o legalmente protegida y esta dirigida unicamente para el uso de la persona destinataria. Si usted no es la persona destinataria de este mensaje, por la presente se le comunica que no debe usar, difundir, copiar de ninguna forma, ni emprender ninguna accion en relacion con ella. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephan Chayer Sent: 03 April 2008 22:21 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Dan, Todd, I feel a little like you. We are using, selling and supporting Declude for the past 4 years. It works great for us. Especially since they brought up version 4 including Commtouch and AVG, that was a nice move. We went through all the product and pricing changes for the past years. We were surprised when they conbined all the products but they honoured all the previous purchases from all our customers. We deal with other vendors that would have been much more agressive that Declude in some situations. I believe that Decluce's pricing is fair and attractive for customers, the product works well and the support is just amazing. Bottom line, if you do not make money, you can't give support and put ameliorations in a product. I wish
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
Greetings All, I hate to be a Naysayer, but I will not be renewing Declude. I dont usually write negative reviews, but this is an exception. Ive lost several customers due to our inability to get Declude to function. Ive been using the product since about 2000. The past three years have been dismal. Between spools filling up, system crashes, CPU loads at 100%, Memory Leaks, Application Errors, Application Hangs, GP Faults, etc... Declude support was always there to point the finger back at me and the server. Bad DNS servers, Bad Memory, Bad CPUs, or something wrong with the version of Windows I was running. I purchased a HP Proliant (2CPUs, 6-146GB HDD, 4-GB RAM, Win2k3) and thought that would resolve the issues. The server I have running must have cron jobs to reboot the server every morning at 5AM and restart the declude service every two hours. We login into the server daily to clear pop-up errors off the server. http://www.tnweb.com/images/declude-error1.png This is the only way to keep the server running. I keep a very limited amount of traffic on the server. No need to push the envelope. Regards, Mike Hardrick TNWEB From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Edmonds Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:37 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I second that. I am not trying to brown nose or anything here but without declude we would be completely screwed. In 3 years with declude I think I have only had to email them once with a support query and that was answered pretty much within an hour. Sure, some spam gets through now and again but there have been times where I have mucked about with the declude config settings and the spam floodgates opened and boy, my clients noticed the difference and were thanking me the next day. I have no problem renewing my subscriptions every year. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet www.123marbella.net LEGAL DISCLAIMER - This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby informed that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please delete it and any copies of it and notify it to the sender. AVISO LEGAL - Este mensaje puede contener informacion confidencial, en propiedad o legalmente protegida y esta dirigida unicamente para el uso de la persona destinataria. Si usted no es la persona destinataria de este mensaje, por la presente se le comunica que no debe usar, difundir, copiar de ninguna forma, ni emprender ninguna accion en relacion con ella. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephan Chayer Sent: 03 April 2008 22:21 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Dan, Todd, I feel a little like you. We are using, selling and supporting Declude for the past 4 years. It works great for us. Especially since they brought up version 4 including Commtouch and AVG, that was a nice move. We went through all the product and pricing changes for the past years. We were surprised when they conbined all the products but they honoured all the previous purchases from all our customers. We deal with other vendors that would have been much more agressive that Declude in some situations. I believe that Decluce's pricing is fair and attractive for customers, the product works well and the support is just amazing. Bottom line, if you do not make money, you can't give support and put ameliorations in a product. I wish that everyone could continue to do business and make money. Keep the good work Stephan Chayer IntraSoft Solutions Inc. HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] _ De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Linda Pagillo Envoyé : 3 avril, 2008 14:35 À : declude.junkmail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Thank you Todd. It's my pleasure! If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me either by email or call Toll free 1-866-332-5833 Ext.2 Linda Pagillo Technical Support Engineer | Declude Your Email Security is our business Direct: 978-225-8436 Office: 978.499.2933 Ext.2 Toll Free: 1-866.332.5833 Ext.2 Fax: 978.334.0700 Email: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: HYPERLINK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Todd Richards To: HYPERLINK mailto:declude.junkmail@declude.comdeclude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I totally agree with Dans email. Declude has been working great for us, so its money well
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
I totally agree with Dan’s email. Declude has been working great for us, so it’s money well spent. On the other hand, our IMail SA just expired, which cost us close to $1000 a year and a half ago, and I was never satisfied to the point where I could upgrade. So that amounted to worthless money spent. I’m pretty comfortable when David says an update is available that it really is ready. The support – esp. Linda – has been fantastic. Our SA with Declude is up in June. I have every intention of renewing. Todd From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Shadix Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:50 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I, for one, like infrequent but solid updates. I don’t have time to be constantly installing and testing updates, especially if they are problematic. Also, Declude is the only affordable anti-virus / anti-spam e-mail solution that I’ve encountered. I haven’t really been looking lately but the others that I’ve seen were a lot more expensive. Everyone has to choose the product that works for them. Declude works for me. Dan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:58 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Kevin, Every effort has been made to ensure that major releases are problem free, this has been the reason for the delay in major releases, however if you notice that between major releases we make available several interim releases just as Scott had done in the past. Reasons for Service Agreement renewal 1. Unlimited telephone and email support 2. AVG virus signatures for 12 months 3. ZEROHOUR updates for 12 months (After initial activation) 4. Any release of the software during 12 months 5. Upgrades and releases of new files like all_list.dat etc. 6. Access to Declude filter updates 7. Maintenance of a continued SA is required by our TS which means if you lapse you can be charged the extra difference to be brought up to date. 8. Last but not least a team that is dedicated to it’s customers. 9. NOWHERE can you get this for the price you pay as a perpetual license customer. If you do have an alternative that can compare feel free to post it. As for the ZEROHOUR the way it was implemented was different to the other tests so it is on our dev list but not with a high priority other items that come before it are things like integration with the new message sniffer dll in development. A new test being evaluated called FST. Compatibility with SM 5.x – Compatibility with IMAIL 10.x etc etc. David Barker VP Operations Declude Your Email security is our business 978.499.2933 x 7007 office 978.988.1311 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:14 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew After seeing Matt’s post here about not renewing his JunkMail subscription. I’m asking Declude to respond to the group as to why any of us with perpetual licensing. Our SA expires soon and I would like to know the value of renewing. The updates to Declude have been extremely slow and in some cases painful since Scott sold out. Any idea when ZEROHOUR will be available for use in %TESTSFAILED% Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives 3M Simi Valley [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
Thank you Todd. It's my pleasure! If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me either by email or call Toll free 1-866-332-5833 Ext.2 Linda Pagillo Technical Support Engineer | Declude Your Email Security is our business Direct: 978-225-8436 Office: 978.499.2933 Ext.2 Toll Free: 1-866.332.5833 Ext.2 Fax: 978.334.0700 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Todd Richards To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I totally agree with Dan’s email. Declude has been working great for us, so it’s money well spent. On the other hand, our IMail SA just expired, which cost us close to $1000 a year and a half ago, and I was never satisfied to the point where I could upgrade. So that amounted to worthless money spent. I’m pretty comfortable when David says an update is available that it really is ready. The support – esp. Linda – has been fantastic. Our SA with Declude is up in June. I have every intention of renewing. Todd From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Shadix Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:50 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I, for one, like infrequent but solid updates. I don’t have time to be constantly installing and testing updates, especially if they are problematic. Also, Declude is the only affordable anti-virus / anti-spam e-mail solution that I’ve encountered. I haven’t really been looking lately but the others that I’ve seen were a lot more expensive. Everyone has to choose the product that works for them. Declude works for me. Dan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:58 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Kevin, Every effort has been made to ensure that major releases are problem free, this has been the reason for the delay in major releases, however if you notice that between major releases we make available several interim releases just as Scott had done in the past. Reasons for Service Agreement renewal 1. Unlimited telephone and email support 2. AVG virus signatures for 12 months 3. ZEROHOUR updates for 12 months (After initial activation) 4. Any release of the software during 12 months 5. Upgrades and releases of new files like all_list.dat etc. 6. Access to Declude filter updates 7. Maintenance of a continued SA is required by our TS which means if you lapse you can be charged the extra difference to be brought up to date. 8. Last but not least a team that is dedicated to it’s customers. 9. NOWHERE can you get this for the price you pay as a perpetual license customer. If you do have an alternative that can compare feel free to post it. As for the ZEROHOUR the way it was implemented was different to the other tests so it is on our dev list but not with a high priority other items that come before it are things like integration with the new message sniffer dll in development. A new test being evaluated called FST. Compatibility with SM 5.x – Compatibility with IMAIL 10.x etc etc. David Barker VP Operations Declude Your Email security is our business 978.499.2933 x 7007 office 978.988.1311 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:14 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew After seeing Matt’s post here about not renewing his JunkMail subscription. I’m asking Declude to respond to the group as to why any of us with perpetual licensing. Our SA expires soon and I would like to know the value of renewing. The updates to Declude have been extremely slow and in some cases painful since Scott sold out. Any idea when ZEROHOUR will be available for use in %TESTSFAILED% Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives 3M Simi Valley [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
Dan, Todd, I feel a little like you. We are using, selling and supporting Declude for the past 4 years. It works great for us. Especially since they brought up version 4 including Commtouch and AVG, that was a nice move. We went through all the product and pricing changes for the past years. We were surprised when they conbined all the products but they honoured all the previous purchases from all our customers. We deal with other vendors that would have been much more agressive that Declude in some situations. I believe that Decluce's pricing is fair and attractive for customers, the product works well and the support is just amazing. Bottom line, if you do not make money, you can't give support and put ameliorations in a product. I wish that everyone could continue to do business and make money. Keep the good work Stephan Chayer IntraSoft Solutions Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Linda Pagillo Envoyé : 3 avril, 2008 14:35 À : declude.junkmail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Thank you Todd. It's my pleasure! If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me either by email or call Toll free 1-866-332-5833 Ext.2 Linda Pagillo Technical Support Engineer | Declude Your Email Security is our business Direct: 978-225-8436 Office: 978.499.2933 Ext.2 Toll Free: 1-866.332.5833 Ext.2 Fax: 978.334.0700 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Todd Richards mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I totally agree with Dans email. Declude has been working great for us, so its money well spent. On the other hand, our IMail SA just expired, which cost us close to $1000 a year and a half ago, and I was never satisfied to the point where I could upgrade. So that amounted to worthless money spent. Im pretty comfortable when David says an update is available that it really is ready. The support esp. Linda has been fantastic. Our SA with Declude is up in June. I have every intention of renewing. Todd From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Shadix Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:50 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I, for one, like infrequent but solid updates. I dont have time to be constantly installing and testing updates, especially if they are problematic. Also, Declude is the only affordable anti-virus / anti-spam e-mail solution that Ive encountered. I havent really been looking lately but the others that Ive seen were a lot more expensive. Everyone has to choose the product that works for them. Declude works for me. Dan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:58 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Kevin, Every effort has been made to ensure that major releases are problem free, this has been the reason for the delay in major releases, however if you notice that between major releases we make available several interim releases just as Scott had done in the past. Reasons for Service Agreement renewal 1. Unlimited telephone and email support 2. AVG virus signatures for 12 months 3. ZEROHOUR updates for 12 months (After initial activation) 4. Any release of the software during 12 months 5. Upgrades and releases of new files like all_list.dat etc. 6. Access to Declude filter updates 7. Maintenance of a continued SA is required by our TS which means if you lapse you can be charged the extra difference to be brought up to date. 8. Last but not least a team that is dedicated to its customers. 9. NOWHERE can you get this for the price you pay as a perpetual license customer. If you do have an alternative that can compare feel free to post it. As for the ZEROHOUR the way it was implemented was different to the other tests so it is on our dev list but not with a high priority other items that come before it are things like integration with the new message sniffer dll in development. A new test being evaluated called FST. Compatibility with SM 5.x Compatibility with IMAIL 10.x etc etc. David Barker VP Operations Declude Your Email security is our business 978.499.2933 x 7007 office 978.988.1311 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:14 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew After seeing Matts post here about not renewing his JunkMail subscription. Im asking Declude to respond to the group as to why any of us with perpetual licensing. Our SA expires soon and I would like
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
I second that. I am not trying to brown nose or anything here but without declude we would be completely screwed. In 3 years with declude I think I have only had to email them once with a support query and that was answered pretty much within an hour. Sure, some spam gets through now and again but there have been times where I have mucked about with the declude config settings and the spam floodgates opened and boy, my clients noticed the difference and were thanking me the next day. I have no problem renewing my subscriptions every year. Kindest Regards Craig Edmonds 123 Marbella Internet www.123marbella.net LEGAL DISCLAIMER - This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information and is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby informed that you must not use, disseminate, copy it in any form or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please delete it and any copies of it and notify it to the sender. AVISO LEGAL - Este mensaje puede contener informacion confidencial, en propiedad o legalmente protegida y esta dirigida unicamente para el uso de la persona destinataria. Si usted no es la persona destinataria de este mensaje, por la presente se le comunica que no debe usar, difundir, copiar de ninguna forma, ni emprender ninguna accion en relacion con ella. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephan Chayer Sent: 03 April 2008 22:21 To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Dan, Todd, I feel a little like you. We are using, selling and supporting Declude for the past 4 years. It works great for us. Especially since they brought up version 4 including Commtouch and AVG, that was a nice move. We went through all the product and pricing changes for the past years. We were surprised when they conbined all the products but they honoured all the previous purchases from all our customers. We deal with other vendors that would have been much more agressive that Declude in some situations. I believe that Decluce's pricing is fair and attractive for customers, the product works well and the support is just amazing. Bottom line, if you do not make money, you can't give support and put ameliorations in a product. I wish that everyone could continue to do business and make money. Keep the good work Stephan Chayer IntraSoft Solutions Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] De la part de Linda Pagillo Envoyé : 3 avril, 2008 14:35 À : declude.junkmail@declude.com Objet : Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Thank you Todd. It's my pleasure! If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me either by email or call Toll free 1-866-332-5833 Ext.2 Linda Pagillo Technical Support Engineer | Declude Your Email Security is our business Direct: 978-225-8436 Office: 978.499.2933 Ext.2 Toll Free: 1-866.332.5833 Ext.2 Fax: 978.334.0700 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Todd Richards mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 11:06 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I totally agree with Dans email. Declude has been working great for us, so its money well spent. On the other hand, our IMail SA just expired, which cost us close to $1000 a year and a half ago, and I was never satisfied to the point where I could upgrade. So that amounted to worthless money spent. Im pretty comfortable when David says an update is available that it really is ready. The support esp. Linda has been fantastic. Our SA with Declude is up in June. I have every intention of renewing. Todd From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Shadix Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:50 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew I, for one, like infrequent but solid updates. I dont have time to be constantly installing and testing updates, especially if they are problematic. Also, Declude is the only affordable anti-virus / anti-spam e-mail solution that Ive encountered. I havent really been looking lately but the others that Ive seen were a lot more expensive. Everyone has to choose the product that works for them. Declude works for me. Dan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:58 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Kevin, Every effort has been made to ensure that major releases are problem free, this has been the reason for the delay in major releases, however if you notice that between major releases we make available several interim releases just as Scott had done
[Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
After seeing Matt’s post here about not renewing his JunkMail subscription. I’m asking Declude to respond to the group as to why any of us with perpetual licensing. Our SA expires soon and I would like to know the value of renewing. The updates to Declude have been extremely slow and in some cases painful since Scott sold out. Any idea when ZEROHOUR will be available for use in %TESTSFAILED% Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives 3M Simi Valley [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
Now there is a good question. At 10:13 AM 4/2/2008 -0700, you wrote: After seeing Mattâs post here about not renewing his JunkMail subscription. Iâm asking Declude to respond to the group as to why any of us with perpetual licensing. Our SA expires soon and I would like to know the value of renewing. Â The updates to Declude have been extremely slow and in some cases painful since Scott sold out. Any idea when ZEROHOUR will be available for use in %TESTSFAILED% Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives 3M Simi Valley [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
Kevin, Every effort has been made to ensure that major releases are problem free, this has been the reason for the delay in major releases, however if you notice that between major releases we make available several interim releases just as Scott had done in the past. Reasons for Service Agreement renewal 1. Unlimited telephone and email support 2. AVG virus signatures for 12 months 3. ZEROHOUR updates for 12 months (After initial activation) 4. Any release of the software during 12 months 5. Upgrades and releases of new files like all_list.dat etc. 6. Access to Declude filter updates 7. Maintenance of a continued SA is required by our TS which means if you lapse you can be charged the extra difference to be brought up to date. 8. Last but not least a team that is dedicated to it’s customers. 9. NOWHERE can you get this for the price you pay as a perpetual license customer. If you do have an alternative that can compare feel free to post it. As for the ZEROHOUR the way it was implemented was different to the other tests so it is on our dev list but not with a high priority other items that come before it are things like integration with the new message sniffer dll in development. A new test being evaluated called FST. Compatibility with SM 5.x – Compatibility with IMAIL 10.x etc etc. David Barker VP Operations Declude Your Email security is our business 978.499.2933 x 7007 office 978.988.1311 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:14 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew After seeing Matt’s post here about not renewing his JunkMail subscription. I’m asking Declude to respond to the group as to why any of us with perpetual licensing. Our SA expires soon and I would like to know the value of renewing. The updates to Declude have been extremely slow and in some cases painful since Scott sold out. Any idea when ZEROHOUR will be available for use in %TESTSFAILED% Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives 3M Simi Valley [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew
I, for one, like infrequent but solid updates. I don’t have time to be constantly installing and testing updates, especially if they are problematic. Also, Declude is the only affordable anti-virus / anti-spam e-mail solution that I’ve encountered. I haven’t really been looking lately but the others that I’ve seen were a lot more expensive. Everyone has to choose the product that works for them. Declude works for me. Dan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:58 AM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew Kevin, Every effort has been made to ensure that major releases are problem free, this has been the reason for the delay in major releases, however if you notice that between major releases we make available several interim releases just as Scott had done in the past. Reasons for Service Agreement renewal 1. Unlimited telephone and email support 2. AVG virus signatures for 12 months 3. ZEROHOUR updates for 12 months (After initial activation) 4. Any release of the software during 12 months 5. Upgrades and releases of new files like all_list.dat etc. 6. Access to Declude filter updates 7. Maintenance of a continued SA is required by our TS which means if you lapse you can be charged the extra difference to be brought up to date. 8. Last but not least a team that is dedicated to it’s customers. 9. NOWHERE can you get this for the price you pay as a perpetual license customer. If you do have an alternative that can compare feel free to post it. As for the ZEROHOUR the way it was implemented was different to the other tests so it is on our dev list but not with a high priority other items that come before it are things like integration with the new message sniffer dll in development. A new test being evaluated called FST. Compatibility with SM 5.x – Compatibility with IMAIL 10.x etc etc. David Barker VP Operations Declude Your Email security is our business 978.499.2933 x 7007 office 978.988.1311 fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Bilbee Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:14 PM To: declude.junkmail@declude.com Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Reasons to renew After seeing Matt’s post here about not renewing his JunkMail subscription. I’m asking Declude to respond to the group as to why any of us with perpetual licensing. Our SA expires soon and I would like to know the value of renewing. The updates to Declude have been extremely slow and in some cases painful since Scott sold out. Any idea when ZEROHOUR will be available for use in %TESTSFAILED% Kevin Bilbee Network Administrator Standard Abrasives 3M Simi Valley [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. The information contained in this communication is privileged and confidential. If you have received this communication in error, please forward back to the sender and delete your copy immediately. You are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
