RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Software for copying files with permissions

2007-06-27 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
This looks like what I'm looking for. We are not interested in using the DFS
option, everything will be going on one server
 
I can buy something 3rd party, as well, if anyone has any suggestions for
something that might work better than this. In the past I have found that
the free MS tools are cryptic with their directions and not real easy to
use. Ah wait, I see your PS. I may check this out as well.
 
Thanks for everyone's help!
 
 



Sharyn, you might be interested in a more complete tool from Microsoft that
is free and was designed with your task in mind:
 
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d00e3eae-930a-42b0-
b595-66f462f5d87b
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d00e3eae-930a-42b0
-b595-66f462f5d87bDisplayLang=en DisplayLang=en
 
It's called the File Server Migration Toolkit, and it takes care of creating
the shares, setting permissions and even removing the original shares.
There is an emphasis on using DFS, but that is completely optional.
 
Here's a snippet from the online help:
 
 

Using the File Server Migration Wizard


The File Server Migration Wizard is a graphical user interface (GUI) tool
for copying files and folders from a source file server to a target file
server. The wizard walks you step by step through the copy process, which
includes creating a migration project where project-specific settings are
stored, monitoring the progress of the file copying, and viewing a final
report of the copying results. 

 
mk:@msitstore:c:\program%20files\microsoft%20file%20server%20migration%20to
olkit\fsmigrate.chm::/important.gif Important

*   For information about security and server cluster considerations,
see  ms-its:fsmigrate.chm::/fsct_file_wizard_security.htm Security
considerations and  ms-its:fsmigrate.chm::/fsct_file_wizard_cluster.htm
Server cluster considerations. 

The File Server Migration Wizard provides a number of options for copying
data. For example, you can:

*   Copy permission, auditing, and ownership information that is
associated with files and folders. 

*   Resolve invalid security descriptors on the target files and
folders. 

*   Stop sharing the shared folders on the source file servers after the
copying is finalized. 

*   Prestage the target file server-for example, by restoring a backup
of the source file server-and then use the wizard to recopy changed files
and share the target folders. (To do this, follow the procedure described in
the Target Location link in
ms-its:fsmigrate.chm::/fsct_file_Wizard_1a.htm Select servers, shared
folders, and settings.) 

*   Specify the DFS root server that hosts consolidation roots that are
created by the DFS Consolidation Root Wizard. When you select this setting,
the links that correspond to each copied folder are updated with the new
Universal Naming Convention (UNC) paths of the target folders. 

*   Specify an existing DFS namespace where you want to add DFS links
for each copied shared folder. You can select this setting even if you do
not use the DFS Consolidation Root Wizard. 

 
Note that how you get your users to map these shares and how to switch the
server is still up to you, e.g. with login scripts or changing the share for
their home drive in your Active Directory (or NT4 Domain Controller).
 
Andrew.
 
p.s. In the last migration I did, I was fortunate to use a product from
NetIQ.com called Server Consolidator, part of their NetIQ Migration
Suite, and that did the same functionality as the Microsoft FSMT and it was
both simple and accurate.  I've no idea what it cost.
 
 



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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Software for copying files with permissions

2007-06-26 Thread Linda Pagillo
OT: Software for copying files with permissionsSharyn, check out this article 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/174273

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  Morning, 

  Does anyone have a recommendation for some software that is going to copy 
files on one of my fileservers to a new server, along with all the permissions 
and security that is currently in place?

  Thanks, 
  Sharyn 


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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Software for copying files with permissions

2007-06-26 Thread Sharyn Schmidt
 


 

If you want to move an entire image to a new machine then I would use
Acronis software to image the old server

 

 

Thanks, I don't want to move the entire image.

 

I just want to take every share that I have on this particular server and
move it to a new server with all the permissions intact.

 

Sharyn



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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Software for copying files with permissions

2007-06-26 Thread Dan Shadix
Robocopy is free from Microsoft and will do all that you ask and more.  Just be 
careful when you use the /mir switch (or others that automatically delete 
files).

Dan

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Morning,

Does anyone have a recommendation for some software that is going to copy files 
on one of my fileservers to a new server, along with all the permissions and 
security that is currently in place?

Thanks,
Sharyn

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Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Software for copying files with permissions

2007-06-26 Thread Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Sharyn,

I would check out robocopy in the resource kit.  I use it all the time 
to do stuff like this.


Darrell

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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Software for copying files with permissions

2007-06-26 Thread Heinrich Richter
Try robocopy from the MS Resource Kit.

Heinrich


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 Morning,
 
 Does anyone have a recommendation for some software that is going to copy
 files on one of my fileservers to a new server, along with all the
 permissions and security that is currently in place?
 
 Thanks,
 Sharyn
 
 
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Software for copying files with permissions

2007-06-26 Thread Harry vanderzand
If you want to move an entire image to a new machine then I would use
Acronis software to image the old server

 

You do need to make sure that the drivers for your boot drive are the same
for both machines.

 

If you find that the new machine needs a different driver then you could
take a SCSI controller and hard drive and image the old machine to the SCSI
drive (after you activate the SCSI drive and driver on the machine)  You
then move the scsi card and drive to the new machine where it can boot since
you installed the scsi driver on the old machine before you imaged it.  Once
booted with the scsi drive you can now load all the new drivewr5s needed
including the driver for the new hard drive sub system.  Once that is done
you can move the image from the scsi drive to the hard drive in the new
computer.

 

Harry Vanderzand

Intown Internet

11 Belmont Ave. W.

Kitchener, ON, N2M 1L2

519-741-1222

 

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Morning, 

Does anyone have a recommendation for some software that is going to copy
files on one of my fileservers to a new server, along with all the
permissions and security that is currently in place?

Thanks, 
Sharyn 


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RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Software for copying files with permissions

2007-06-26 Thread Rick Klinge
Thanks, I don't want to move the entire image.

 

I just want to take every share that I have on this
particular server and move it to a new server with all the permissions
intact.

 

Sharyn


Have you tried this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/174273

~Rick




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RE: SPAM-MED: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Software for copying files with permissions

2007-06-26 Thread Rick Klinge
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/174273

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 Try robocopy from the MS Resource Kit.
 
 Heinrich
 
 
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  Morning,
  
  Does anyone have a recommendation for some software that is 
 going to copy
  files on one of my fileservers to a new server, along with all the
  permissions and security that is currently in place?
  
  Thanks,
  Sharyn
  
  
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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Software for copying files with permissions

2007-06-26 Thread William Stillwell

Reasons I love vmware esx :-) 

Out of disk space? No problem, just make It bigger.
Out of Memory? Just add more...
Can't find the memory? Just move the virtual server to a newer box.
Cpu speed slow? Just build a new better faster esx server, (which takes
litterly 30mins to install) and move the virtaul machine (without shutting
it down).


William Stillwell

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Hi,

If this is part of a Domain, you should be able to use XCOPY or ROBOCOPY
(depending on the Windows Server version you have), with the appropriate
command line switches and copy the various folders and their content
INCLUDING permissions, owners, system/hidden flags etc.

After the files are copied, re-establish matching shares on the new server
(chances are, your shares may not have additional permissions and you are
controlling access strictly through NTFS - but you should check your current
shares, just to be sure).

Done this a several times over the years and it's relatively painless.

Best Regards,
Andy

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with permissions

Thanks, I don't want to move the entire image.

 

I just want to take every share that I have on this
particular server and move it to a new server with all the permissions
intact.

 

Sharyn


Have you tried this: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/174273

~Rick




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RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: Software for copying files with permissions

2007-06-26 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Sharyn, you might be interested in a more complete tool from Microsoft
that is free and was designed with your task in mind:
 
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=d00e3eae-930a-4
2b0-b595-66f462f5d87bDisplayLang=en
 
It's called the File Server Migration Toolkit, and it takes care of
creating the shares, setting permissions and even removing the original
shares.  There is an emphasis on using DFS, but that is completely
optional.
 
Here's a snippet from the online help:
 
 

Using the File Server Migration Wizard


The File Server Migration Wizard is a graphical user interface (GUI)
tool for copying files and folders from a source file server to a target
file server. The wizard walks you step by step through the copy process,
which includes creating a migration project where project-specific
settings are stored, monitoring the progress of the file copying, and
viewing a final report of the copying results. 

 
mk:@msitstore:c:\program%20files\microsoft%20file%20server%20migration%
20toolkit\fsmigrate.chm::/important.gif Important

*   For information about security and server cluster
considerations, see Security considerations
ms-its:fsmigrate.chm::/fsct_file_wizard_security.htm  and Server
cluster considerations
ms-its:fsmigrate.chm::/fsct_file_wizard_cluster.htm . 

The File Server Migration Wizard provides a number of options for
copying data. For example, you can:

*   Copy permission, auditing, and ownership information that is
associated with files and folders. 
*   Resolve invalid security descriptors on the target files and
folders. 
*   Stop sharing the shared folders on the source file servers after
the copying is finalized. 
*   Prestage the target file server-for example, by restoring a
backup of the source file server-and then use the wizard to recopy
changed files and share the target folders. (To do this, follow the
procedure described in the Target Location link in Select servers,
shared folders, and settings
ms-its:fsmigrate.chm::/fsct_file_Wizard_1a.htm .) 
*   Specify the DFS root server that hosts consolidation roots that
are created by the DFS Consolidation Root Wizard. When you select this
setting, the links that correspond to each copied folder are updated
with the new Universal Naming Convention (UNC) paths of the target
folders. 
*   Specify an existing DFS namespace where you want to add DFS
links for each copied shared folder. You can select this setting even if
you do not use the DFS Consolidation Root Wizard. 

 
Note that how you get your users to map these shares and how to switch
the server is still up to you, e.g. with login scripts or changing the
share for their home drive in your Active Directory (or NT4 Domain
Controller).
 
Andrew.
 
p.s. In the last migration I did, I was fortunate to use a product from
NetIQ.com called Server Consolidator, part of their NetIQ Migration
Suite, and that did the same functionality as the Microsoft FSMT and it
was both simple and accurate.  I've no idea what it cost.
 
 




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Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 6:19 AM
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with permissions


 


 

If you want to move an entire image to a new machine
then I would use Acronis software to image the old server

 

 

Thanks, I don't want to move the entire image.

 

I just want to take every share that I have on this
particular server and move it to a new server with all the permissions
intact.

 

Sharyn


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