is missing), please add your stuff
within the next 24 hours - thanks!!!
As I'm very very busy at my work, I have no time to really participate
so I didn't tried to add my description.
However, I'll try to send some messages as soon as possible.
Thanks,
and bravo for your work on icons !
Michel Renon
Hi,
Le 04/03/11 23:58, Christoph Noack a écrit :
I've created a new wiki page for that - please feel free to add your
thoughts. I also provided a more extensive introduction and a proposal
for the text steps along with some roughly guessed times:
Le 17/03/11 00:16, Christoph Noack a écrit :
Hi Michel,
sorry for not answering until now ... but today I'm happy to do it :-)
Am Donnerstag, den 10.03.2011, 02:00 +0100 schrieb Michel RENON:
Le 04/03/11 23:58, Christoph Noack a écrit :
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Kick-Off
Hi,
Have you seen that blog entry ?
http://design.canonical.com/2011/03/quit/
It's very interesting and they talk about LibreOffice.
Well, it's about a problem with LibreOffice's Quit menu...
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Hi,
Few days ago, there was a discussion about the style name :
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/msg01436.html
As I've been teaching the basic of OpenOffice 2 or 3 years ago, I can
confirm that the idea of style sheet is not obvious. But it seems to
me that the name style sheet
Hi Christoph,
Hi all,
Le 20/04/11 21:09, Christoph Noack a écrit :
Hi all,
I felt free to add a section Whiteboards to the wiki - simply because
of the fact that I needed a space where I could put something in-between
idea collection and final specification.
So if you have anything you are
Hi Marc,
Le 25/04/11 13:15, Marc Paré a écrit :
Le 2011-04-25 06:58, Michel RENON a écrit :
Hi,
Few days ago, there was a discussion about the style name :
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/msg01436.html
As I've been teaching the basic of OpenOffice 2 or 3 years ago, I can
Hi Ricardo,
Le 25/04/11 13:18, RGB ES a écrit :
2011/4/25 Michel RENONmichel.re...@free.fr:
Hi,
Few days ago, there was a discussion about the style name :
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/design/msg01436.html
As I've been teaching the basic of OpenOffice 2 or 3 years ago, I can
Hi,
Le 29/04/11 07:15, Scott Pledger a écrit :
Is there any chance of implementing any kind of an XML-based UI template?
Something similar to XUL may be a good place to start...
Yours Truly,
Scott Pledger
You're not the first to have this idea ;-)
I digged into some folders and found the
Le 25/04/11 14:18, Christoph Noack a écrit :
[...]
How to start, well, maybe we can do it in a collaborative manner to
evaluate the issues without (at the moment) using the bugtracker - to
me, it seems to provide a better overview. Once we have some selected
items, we might ask the developers
Le 26/04/11 22:04, Christoph Noack a écrit :
Hi,
[...]
We discussed this issue many times at OOo, and I came to the following
(personal) conclusion; we need ...
* a more sensible selection of styles (e.g. attach the list styles
to the paragraph styles intended for list use)
Le 24/09/11 17:32, Bernhard Dippold a écrit :
Hi Christoph, all
[...]
Every other Design Team member: Please cast your vote!
(Just add your name and +1 or -1 in a reply to this mail)
+1
(at the last minute before the gong !)
(Sorry for my silence these last weeks : I'm completely
Hi,
Le 09/11/11 21:37, Christoph Noack a écrit :
Hi all,
anybody here who has some deeper knowledge (or interest) around managing
macros? Bug 38889 (implicitly) asks for usability improvements for a
corresponding dialog.
I have done macro stuff ages ago, so I don't think I'm now qualified to
Hi,
Le 13/11/11 19:32, Christoph Noack a écrit :
Hi August, hi Michel!
Thank you both for offering your support. Do you think it might make
sense to subscribe to bug 38889 (maybe adding a comment)? So other
people will know that somebody will have a deeper look at the issue.
Michel, if you
Le 27/11/11 18:22, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
Andrew,
To keep this simple and without shame of repeating myself:
The developers cannot implement a complete redesign all at once. Therefore
you need to push changes one by one. Little by little. In order to do this
you need to write specification
Le 27/11/11 20:22, Andrew Pullins a écrit :
And an important point : please create mockups in wireframe.
Otherwise, the theme/aesthetic changes may disturb the UX analysis. [1]
[1] http://uxopenofficeorg.**blogspot.com/2010/05/picture-**
Le 27/11/11 04:18, Andrew Pullins a écrit :
Hello
[...]
can we get someone from the deve team to help us work on this road map. I
know that some of them hang around here. I do not want to mess with what
has already been planed but we should start to plan to change the UI. till
then we the
Hi,
As I proposed during this weekend's chat, here is an idea about bullets
and numbering :
http://michel.renon.free.fr/LibreOffice/propal_20120521.png
Don't hesitate to ask any question.
Thanks,
Michel
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Hi,
As I proposed during this weekend's chat, here is an idea about bullets
and numbering :
http://michel.renon.free.fr/LibreOffice/propal_20120521.png
Don't hesitate to ask any question.
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Hi,
As I proposed during my last chat participation, here is another easy
design hack : a modification of Writer's Insert menu.
I find today's insert menu not very usefull : most used commands are
everywhere, beside unused commands.
Here is my proposal :
Hi,
To make it easier to read, I uploaded my 2 recents proposals in my wiki
page :
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr
- enhancement for bullets and numbering icons
- new insert menu in Writer
Please reply with any comments, questions, or concerns.
Thanks,
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Hi klaus-jürgen,
Thanks for your feed-back,
Le 30/05/12 08:13, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol a écrit :
Hi Michel, *,
Am 29.05.2012 18:41, schrieb Michel RENON:
Hi,
To make it easier to read, I uploaded my 2 recents proposals in my wiki
page :
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr
Hi Alex,
Le 01/09/12 14:29, alexander.wilms a écrit :
Hi everyone,
An idea that's been floating around in my head for some time was
making 3d meshes part of the motif, so I started drafting something:
http://ubuntuone.com/7Ga5G3sb4B9tURr2U5pkyQ
I used Open Sans instead of Vegur, since it
Hi,
Le 20/09/12 15:47, Stefan Knorr (Astron) a écrit :
Hi Alex,
are there any updates on the icon? Or something we should help with?
Astron.
Here is my (very very) simple proposal :
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr#Icon_for_Android_Remote
it's just to test the idea :
Hi Cor, Jan,
Le 25/09/12 16:00, Jan Holesovsky a écrit :
[...]
Therefore the good OpenOffice.org developers and people conducted a
large project some years ago, Renaissance.
Of course the toolbar is one of the changes the was a result from that.
I guess all the work was done, because many
Hi Jon,
Le 26/09/2012 16:34, Jan Holesovsky a écrit :
Hi Michel,
Michel Renon píše v St 26. 09. 2012 v 13:45 +0200:
UI decisions should be taken based on facts, analysis, polls, statistics.
So this is the statistics I have at hand: Several people angry about a
feature, and nobody praising
Hi,
As proposed during the last chat, here is a correct prototype :
http://michel.renon.free.fr/libreoffice/colorpicker_20121112/
Start by clicking on the red rectangle in the fake toolbar.
You can click everywhere, except when something gets dimmed : it means
it's just an image without
Le 29/01/2013 13:39, Daniel A. Rodriguez a écrit :
Agree, for now, I guess it would be good if we all voted like Adolfo
above. Else, we'll just stumble over lots of calculation errors (people
posting at the same time etc.).
(Imho, a saner mechanism would have been to ask for everyone's top three
Le 29/01/2013 15:33, Michel Renon a écrit :
Le 29/01/2013 13:39, Daniel A. Rodriguez a écrit :
Agree, for now, I guess it would be good if we all voted like Adolfo
above. Else, we'll just stumble over lots of calculation errors (people
posting at the same time etc.).
(Imho, a saner mechanism
Le 18/02/2013 08:06, Emir Yâsin SARI a écrit :
+1
And monochrome icons are the ideal icon types for a possible native OS X
interface. For that reason it would be logical to have a complete monochrome/flat icon
set at hand.
Emir
(it's not a direct answer to you Emir, but to the whole
Le 18/02/2013 11:09, Michel Renon a écrit :
Le 18/02/2013 08:06, Emir Yâsin SARI a écrit :
+1
And monochrome icons are the ideal icon types for a possible native
OS X interface. For that reason it would be logical to have a complete
monochrome/flat icon set at hand.
Emir
(it's not a direct
Hi,
I inform you that I wrote a list of 9 articles about LibreOffice,
specially about the design process. The first starts here :
http://mr-consultant.net/blog/2013/04/thoughts-about-design-process-part-1-the-context/
If you have very few time, you can just go directly to last, the
Hi Keith,
Le 06/04/2013 01:30, Keith Curtis a écrit :
Hi all;
I've written a proposal for a new experimental UI for LibreOffice Writer:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:KeithCu
That proposal is light years away from being a UX design proposal. Really.
Just compare it with :
-
Hi,
Le 11/04/2013 16:49, Stefan Knorr a écrit :
Hi Rafael,
[...]
* No confirmation shown for Set as default (add some sort of tick or
star?)
+1
and in a future release, maybe add something to easily list all
default templates.
Ex : a new tab that just dynamically list the 4
is LibreOfficeOnLine ? it would have been one answer).
Now back to my silence for a long time.
Regards,
Michel Renon
[1]
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas#Use_Widget_Layout_for_the_Start_Center
[2]
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-ux-advise/2013-July/002218.html
I like very much).
Comments inline.
Le Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:37:03 +0200,
Michel Renon michel.re...@free.fr a écrit :
[...]
First, I just want to say that what happens for the start center is a
huge fiasco for LibreOffice. It clearly shows that there is no design
process :
- a subject is thrown
Le 27/10/2013 16:43, Cor Nouws a écrit :
Mirek M. wrote (27-10-13 02:04)
Hi Michel,
This is a meritocracy -- if you're not happy with something, you're
welcome
to swoop in and change it. :) (Of course, the community also has to
accept
those changes.)
The problem is that a process is started,
Hi,
Le 04/12/2013 10:03, Mirek M. a écrit :
2013/12/4 Jan Holesovsky ke...@collabora.com
Hi Mirek,
Mirek M. píše v Čt 28. 11. 2013 v 22:01 +0100:
Please wait with the text until after this week's IRC chat, where we
should finally reach consensus on all the controversial topics --
Hi,
Le 06/12/2013 19:39, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit :
Hello Michel,
[...]
Indeed. I find you quite shy in fact, and I'm serious. To me it does
not look like you were ignored, rather that no one knows about it.
Which is a problem since the start.
I wouldn't say I'm shy, I'm just polite and I
Hi,
Le 29/01/2015 17:06, Michael Meeks a écrit :
[...]
* GSoC (Cedric)
+ We need to have new ideas added to the wiki page:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas
+ sooner the better etc. preferably before FOSDEM: today / tomorrow.
here are some
Hi,
Le 11/06/2015 16:59, Joel Madero a écrit :
On 06/10/2015 11:18 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
[...]
Likely when the document is fully finished, it would be published to the wiki,
similar to how we are doing with the HIG.
And you will lost the complete history of the document. That is a
Hi,
Le 10/06/2015 22:39, Jay Philips a écrit :
Hi JBF,
On 06/10/2015 11:46 PM, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
Hi,
I am interested but I refuse to use Google Docs to contribute to
LibreOffice project. So, no input from me.
You can download the current version of the document below and make
Hi Paulo,
Le 06/11/2015 11:06, Paulo José Amaro a écrit :
Hi everyone,
Some years ago (2011) I did help the redesign of the mime type icons, just
adding some effects to the original ones created mainly by Christoph Noack.
Since then I've been away from the LibreOffice design team, but today I
Hi,
Le 09/07/2015 00:44, Jay Philips a écrit :
Hey Katarina and all,
Not sure if this is 100% relevant, but was something i was thinking
about last week.
I've been wondering why we dont rely on the OS's print dialog rather
than LO's internal one. It was something that came to mind as Heiko
Hi,
Le 04/12/2015 02:03, Heiko Tietze a écrit :
On Friday 04 December 2015 00:32:29 Michel RENON wrote:
So why not create mockups with LO Draw ?
Nothing against dog food, and of course Draw is a useful tool. But to adopt a
paintting tool for mockups is like writing code with a text processor
Hi,
I'll try to join next hangouts, but I wanted to send some feedback before.
After reading gdocs about current subjects (table styles and area tab),
I have the following suggestion :
- start by creating use cases, for each of 3 personnas (Benjamin, Eve,
Adrian).
Currently, there are no
Hi,
Another feedback : do LO designers really use LibreOffice every day ?
I can tell you it really changes the way you consider software design,
specially when bugs/bad design prevent you from doing your paid work,
and your boss becomes angry...
Look at when one KDE dev (David Faure) just
Hi,
I can't participate to today's hangout : I'm currently teaching Python ;-)
I'll be available for next week.
Cheers,
Michel
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Hi,
Following my recent proposal about Impress buttons, I just created a
proposal for the master panel :
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr/Impress51_master_panel
Feedback welcome,
Cheers,
Michel
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Le 14/01/2016 18:35, Heiko Tietze a écrit :
On Thursday, 14 January 2016 11:32:59 CET Michel RENON wrote:
You said very important things !
That's the core problem : currently, there is no user feedback.
The design team is very motivated to create good UI, but we (as I
participated
Le 15/01/2016 13:14, Heiko Tietze a écrit :
On Friday, 15 January 2016 11:49:26 CET Michel RENON wrote:
Please note that I was talking about "use cases, prototypes, user
testing and iterate", not surveys.
That's my daily business too. But for LibO, and any other open source
applic
Le 13/01/2016 14:35, V Stuart Foote a écrit :
[...]
When refactored it was provided with a simple View menu toggle "Modes Tab
Bar" so "power users", or the intransigent, can enable or disable it as
desired--but no longer consuming the vertical space by default.
Reasonable UI and UX--nothing is
Le 14/01/2016 10:48, Italo Vignoli a écrit :
On 14/01/16 10:20, Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote:
> If you are ok with that, I'll prepare a patch to show the tab bar by
default.
Sorry, it's not "me" being OK with the solution, "users" should be OK
with the solution (and users have not been asked at all:
Le 14/01/2016 10:59, Sophie a écrit :
Le 14/01/2016 10:48, Italo Vignoli a écrit :
> On 14/01/16 10:20, Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote:
>
>> If you are ok with that, I'll prepare a patch to show the tab bar by default.
>
> Sorry, it's not "me" being OK with the solution, "users" should be OK
> with the
Le 13/01/2016 14:35, V Stuart Foote a écrit :
[...]
When refactored it was provided with a simple View menu toggle "Modes Tab
Bar" so "power users", or the intransigent, can enable or disable it as
desired--but no longer consuming the vertical space by default.
Reasonable UI and UX--nothing is
Le 14/01/2016 15:26, V Stuart Foote a écrit :
Michel RENON-2 wrote
...
[resent to the ml]
Currently, some design changes are merged asap in master, just because
the code is ok.
Then during alpha or beta, some user feedback is coming, but it's
already too late to make changes in code...
Why
Hi,
Le 15/01/2016 19:28, Pedro Rosmaninho a écrit :
Michel, you can't complain that people are using links not posted in a
tdf/libreoffice website and then talk about feedback in a blog of
someone else. Why didn't that person provide feedback to the design
mailing list for example?
It's not
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