Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Carlos Soriano wrote: > Oh I actually talked with Matthew today about this and opened a new bug: > > https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/issues/390 . In this > case this is for disabling the spam filter they have so any

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication) Local Time: March 14, 2017 5:50 PM UTC Time: March 14, 2017 4:50 PM From: mcatanz...@gnome.org To: Alexandre Franke <afra...@gnome.org>, Matthew Hodgson <matt...@matrix.org> Desktop Development List <des

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

On Wed, 2017-03-08 at 12:15 +0100, Alexandre Franke wrote: > Heads up on a quite important issue: some private messages from IRC > users to Matrix users are not delivered. The IRC user won’t get > notified and so will never know the messages were lost. > >

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 8:32 PM, Matthew Hodgson wrote: > We've finally set up a bridge hosted by matrix.org that links GIMPNet into > Matrix (as per the earlier bits of this thread). Heads up on a quite important issue: some private messages from IRC users to Matrix users are

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

Yeah this is so awesome! /Mattias - who just deleted his IRCCloud account Den 3 mars 2017 1:57 em skrev "Emmanuele Bassi" : Thanks ever so much for this work, Matthew. It's really a great addition to the communication channels for GNOME, and hopefully people will start using

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

Thanks ever so much for this work, Matthew. It's really a great addition to the communication channels for GNOME, and hopefully people will start using Matrix much more. :-) Ciao, Emmanuele. On 2 March 2017 at 19:32, Matthew Hodgson wrote: > On 03/02/2017 15:57, Matthew

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 05:56:25PM -0500, Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list wrote: > I'm missing some rooms though, like #nautilus or #gnome-photos etc Nitpick: it is just #photos. ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

On Thu, 2017-03-02 at 22:05 +, Matthew Hodgson wrote: > We deliberately don't implement gravatar support as it's a bit of a > privacy issue, given it lets gravatar track and correlate users > across a wide range of services. I guess we could provide it as an > option though :) That is a nice

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

ano > > Original Message > Subject: Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs > about communication) > Local Time: March 2, 2017 11:05 PM > UTC Time: March 2, 2017 10:05 PM > From: matt...@matrix.org > To: Alberto Ruiz <ar...@gn

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

oh excellent, thanks! Best regards, Carlos Soriano Original Message Subject: Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication) Local Time: March 3, 2017 12:02 AM UTC Time: March 2, 2017 11:02 PM From: afra...@gnome.org To: Carlos Soriano

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

Subject: Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication) Local Time: March 2, 2017 11:05 PM UTC Time: March 2, 2017 10:05 PM From: matt...@matrix.org To: Alberto Ruiz <ar...@gnome.org> Carlos Soriano <csori...@protonmail.com>, Desktop Development Li

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 11:56 PM, Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list wrote: > I'm missing some rooms though, like #nautilus or #gnome-photos etc. Are they > on the bridge and the search is having problems to find them or are they out > for some reason? The bridge

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

We deliberately don't implement gravatar support as it's a bit of a privacy issue, given it lets gravatar track and correlate users across a wide range of services. I guess we could provide it as an option though :) -- Matthew Hodgson Matrix.org > On 2 Mar 2017, at 22:02, Alberto Ruiz

Re: irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 11:32 AM Matthew Hodgson wrote: > On 03/02/2017 15:57, Matthew Hodgson wrote: > >> On 3 Feb 2017, at 13:00, Alexandre Franke > >> Matthew, anything blocking the bridging on our side? > > > > Nothing blocking at all; it's all on our

irc.gimp.org is now available via Matrix (was: Re: Thoughs about communication)

On 03/02/2017 15:57, Matthew Hodgson wrote: On 3 Feb 2017, at 13:00, Alexandre Franke Matthew, anything blocking the bridging on our side? Nothing blocking at all; it's all on our side, which has ended up blocked on FOSDEM - we've had to prioritise a sprint to ship new

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Hi Matthew, everything well in FOSDEM? Hope so. Is there any plans or schedule for matrix bridge? Just curious El vie., 3 feb. 2017 a las 16:58, Matthew Hodgson () escribió: > > > On 3 Feb 2017, at 13:00, Alexandre Franke wrote: > > > > So we don't have

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> On 3 Feb 2017, at 13:00, Alexandre Franke wrote: > > So we don't have to/can't choose channels that are bridged. Not in a > whitelist fashion. We can however mark specific channels as private > (for those with sensitive discussions). > > Matthew, anything blocking the

Re: Thoughs about communication

On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Soriano via desktop-devel-list wrote: > Should we go ahead then? Sri, let's go with #gnome and #engagement for now? > If the bridge works out well, we can move more channels to it soon. As Matthew said: > There may be some

Re: Thoughs about communication

h #gnome and #engagement for now? If the bridge works out well, we can move more channels to it soon. I believe only thing needed is Matthew to set it up in matrix.org and gimpe.net opers set it up the bridge right? Best regards, Carlos Soriano Original Message ---- Subject: Re: T

Re: Thoughs about communication

Soriano Original Message Subject: Re: Thoughs about communication Local Time: January 27, 2017 7:03 PM UTC Time: January 27, 2017 6:03 PM From: s...@ramkrishna.me To: Allan Day <allanp...@gmail.com> Desktop Development List <desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> On Fri, Jan 2

Re: Thoughs about communication

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 8:55 AM Allan Day wrote: > On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna > wrote: > ... > > My two cents, and bear with me on my slight rant - I really hate the idea > of depending on a web app like riot. It's like admitting

Re: Thoughs about communication

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: ... > My two cents, and bear with me on my slight rant - I really hate the idea > of depending on a web app like riot. It's like admitting that we've lost > the whole application space and that we're going browser. I

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On 27/01/2017 16:07, Simon McVittie wrote: As an ex-Telepathy developer, it's interesting to see the focus swinging back towards bridges. One of the motivations for the design of Telepathy was that XMPP claimed to have the same multi-protocol advantages as Matrix, via bridges; but in practice

Re: Thoughs about communication

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Matthew Hodgson wrote: > There may be some confusion here about the dynamics of Matrix bridging. In > practice, when bridging to IRC, Matrix just acts as a big decentralised IRC > bouncer. It connects on a per-network, not a per-channel basis,

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Hi Matthew! On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:43 AM Matthew Hodgson wrote: > On 26/01/2017 22:52, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > > > It would be really awesome to have a GNOME Chat app based on Matrix. > > Instead of implementing support for multiple protocols in the app, > > like we

Re: Thoughs about communication

On 26/01/2017 22:52, Michael Catanzaro wrote: It would be really awesome to have a GNOME Chat app based on Matrix. Instead of implementing support for multiple protocols in the app, like we did with Empathy, it would focus on doing one thing well -- Matrix, both text and video chat (OK, two

Re: Thoughs about communication

Hey Sri, I want to see this happen too and I encouraged Alberto to start this thread, he proposed the same as you, using #newcomers channel as one of the precursors, since is one of the first channels for new people. However, I think #newcomers is not the best place to experiment, things are

Re: Thoughs about communication

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 10:52 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > It would be really awesome to have a GNOME Chat app based on Matrix. It would indeed. > Instead of implementing support for multiple protocols in the app, like > we did with Empathy, it would focus on doing one

Re: Thoughs about communication

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:52 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Thu, 2017-01-26 at 20:56 +, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:47 AM Allan Day > > wrote: > > > Attracting and retaining contributors has to be the most

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On Thu, 2017-01-26 at 20:56 +, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:47 AM Allan Day > wrote: > > Attracting and retaining contributors has to be the most important > > consideration. It's worth noting that IRC cuts in a few different > > directions

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On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:47 AM Allan Day wrote: > > Attracting and retaining contributors has to be the most important > consideration. It's worth noting that IRC cuts in a few different > directions here: on the one hand, IRC means there's no barrier between us > and all

Re: Thoughs about communication

Hello all, On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:40:43 -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2017-01-13 at 23:45 +1100, George Barrett wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 08:37:30AM +, Alberto Fanjul Alonso > > wrote: > > > Hi, hackers > > > > > > Do anybody though about trying

Re: Thoughs about communication

On 23/01/2017 08:05, philip.chime...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 10:16 AM Alexandre Franke > wrote: On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Michael Catanzaro > wrote: The rest of your points

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On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 10:16 AM Alexandre Franke wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Michael Catanzaro > wrote: > > The rest of your points are still valid, though. Sounds like they could > > be resolved by improving the Matrix website (maybe

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On 13/01/2017 08:37, Alberto Fanjul Alonso wrote: Hi, hackers Do anybody though about trying new services for communication? - signal https://whispersystems.org/ - telegram https://telegram.org/ - matrix.org http://matrix.org/ - gitter https://gitter.im/ I'm the project

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On Fri, 2017-01-13 at 08:37 +, Alberto Fanjul Alonso wrote: > > Do anybody though about trying new services for communication?  > > - signal https://whispersystems.org/ > - telegram https://telegram.org/ > - matrix.org http://matrix.org/ > - gitter https://gitter.im/ Just to add to the

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On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > The rest of your points are still valid, though. Sounds like they could > be resolved by improving the Matrix website (maybe needs a big "take me > to chat" button). The matrix.org homepage has two "Try Matrix

Re: Thoughs about communication

On Fri, 2017-01-13 at 16:59 +, philip.chime...@gmail.com wrote: > And the web client was really low quality. The web client is pretty good now. The rest of your points are still valid, though. Sounds like they could be resolved by improving the Matrix website (maybe needs a big "take me to

Re: Thoughs about communication

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017, 07:47 Allan Day wrote: > I agree with pretty much everything you've written here, Emmanuele. Just > one comment... > > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > ... > > >> pros/cons irc: > >> > >> pros: > >> > >> - is

Re: Thoughs about communication

I agree with pretty much everything you've written here, Emmanuele. Just one comment... On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: ... > >> pros/cons irc: > >> > >> pros: > >> > >> - is widespread > >> - integrated in gnome environment (bots, bugzilla) > > > > I

Re: Thoughs about communication

On Fri, 2017-01-13 at 23:45 +1100, George Barrett wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 08:37:30AM +, Alberto Fanjul Alonso > wrote: > > Hi, hackers > > > > Do anybody though about trying new services for communication? > > > > - signal https://whispersystems.org/ > > - telegram

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Hi, At Igalia we're currently evaluating a switch from XMPP to Matrix. We're quite pleased with Matrix relative to both XMPP and IRC. Although many Matrix clients are not very great, we find the Riot web client is good and improving quickly; we have a dumb GTK+ 3 wrapper app for it that many of

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Thanks ebassi. I mostly agree with your reply, but there were a few points I'd like to raise in response (not that it changes my argument, just hoping to make my concerns clear). On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 01:32:18PM +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > Considering the state of Telepathy, this is not at

Re: Thoughs about communication

Hi; On 13 January 2017 at 12:45, George Barrett wrote: > On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 08:37:30AM +, Alberto Fanjul Alonso wrote: >> Hi, hackers >> >> Do anybody though about trying new services for communication? >> >> - signal https://whispersystems.org/ >> - telegram

Re: Thoughs about communication

Original Message Subject: Re: Thoughs about communication Local Time: January 13, 2017 5:47 AM UTC Time: January 13, 2017 10:47 AM From: a...@gnome.org To: Alberto Fanjul Alonso <albertofan...@gmail.com> desktop-devel-list@gnome.org <desktop-devel-list@gnome.org>

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On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 08:37:30AM +, Alberto Fanjul Alonso wrote: > Hi, hackers > > Do anybody though about trying new services for communication? > > - signal https://whispersystems.org/ > - telegram https://telegram.org/ > - matrix.org http://matrix.org/ > - gitter https://gitter.im/ None

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Alberto Fanjul Alonso wrote: ... > Do anybody though about trying new services for communication? > > - signal https://whispersystems.org/ > - telegram https://telegram.org/ > - matrix.org http://matrix.org/ > - gitter https://gitter.im/ > - Rocket.Chat

Thoughs about communication

Hi, hackers Do anybody though about trying new services for communication? - signal https://whispersystems.org/ - telegram https://telegram.org/ - matrix.org http://matrix.org/ - gitter https://gitter.im/ pros/cons irc: pros: - can be accesed through command line - is widespread - integrated