Hi guys,
As for Zeitgeist and GNOME Zeitgeist. The engine has been released as 0.2
and we are working on the 0.3 should be done by end of august i hope!
GNOME Zeitgeist should be released very soon too (2 weeks from now)! Having
trouble with my notebook and so on but i think i can get things going
- Tracker finds relationships between data over content. Song A and Song
B are form Artist Y who is from the same hometown of Artsit X
- Zeitgeist finds relationships between data over usage. Last week
google.com and Project A were used alot together. So google is now in
Problem with thinking of these tecnologies as what wil lit give the user is
a wrong approach IMHO. The 3 technologies provide developers of applications
standards and tools to provide better user experience. Unless the technology
has a client (Such as the Tracker Search uses the Tracker Storage)
2009/8/19 Matthias Clasen matthias.cla...@gmail.com
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Seif Lotfys...@lotfy.com wrote:
Problem with thinking of these tecnologies as what wil lit give the user
is
a wrong approach IMHO.
'Designing' the next desktop by picking the cool-sounding technologies
- Tracker finds relationships between data over content. Song A and Song
B are form Artist Y who is from the same hometown of Artsit X
- Zeitgeist finds relationships between data over usage. Last week
google.com and Project A were used alot together. So google is now in
2009/11/2 Jamie McCracken jamie.mccr...@googlemail.com
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 17:12 -0500, Owen Taylor wrote:
My initial understanding of the Zeitgeist engine was that it was
a data collection engine to collect a rich view of how the user
used their computer over time, which
2009/11/3 Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 16:28 -0600, Brian Cameron wrote:
Owen:
It sounds like GNOME Shell will likely not integrate with GNOME 2.30.
How are users expected to turn on/enable GNOME Shell? At the Boston
Summit, I remember people suggesting that
I think you should get in contact with the Tracker and Zeitgeist developers
Tracker providers content indexing and semantic relations while Zeitgeist
does contextual relevancy :)
Please don't hesitate to visit us at #tracker on GIMPNET and #zeitgeist on
Freenode
Cheers
Seif
2010/3/21 SUMIT RANJAN
Our current development is heavily based on launchpad.
We are discussing the issue and we don't see a problem to have our trunk
from launchpad ported to git with every release. However we do want to keep
our development branches in bzr+launchpad. So with every branch merge with
our launchpad trunk
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Sandy Armstrong sanfordarmstr...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Germán Póo-Caamaño g...@gnome.org
wrote:
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 19:01 +0200, Seif Lotfy wrote:
Our current development is heavily based on launchpad.
We are discussing
Dear GNOMErs,
GNOME Activity Journal is being moved to the GNOME Development
Infrastructure...
However after some heavy discussion within the Zeitgeist team, we decided
to keep Zeitgeist in Launchpad, and not move it to the GNOME Development
Infrastructure. While Zeitgeist has been developed
Can you please elaborate why GAJ was not accepted...
We are still clueless :)
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Thorsten Prante thors...@prante.eu wrote:
Purpose:
GNOME Activity Journal is not a File Browser but an Activity Browser.
It uses the Zeitgeist Framework to display what you did
Looking at the mockups by McCann I am looking for a Tracker + Zeitgeist
integration in Shell.
Except for Frequent, and Conversations I think everything else can be done
over Tracker...
I would love to know how Frequent will be categorized... I hope in frequency
you could cluster into today, last
It has been a very bumpy road for Zeitgeist with GNOME. I really don't
feel like going into details and history since this won't help us
proceed. I admit my part of the problem.
While I might not be the best developer around I do try to bring
something new to the table and I do hope that GNOME
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote:
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 01:10:02PM +1000, Andrew Cowie wrote:
The number of times I have been mocked and derided and laughed at on IRC
is staggering. That's not a real distro. That's not maintained by
real GNOME people.
The Jump-list stuff has been on my list for a while:
What we are facing here is:
Adding actions to the appmenus: new tab (browser), new note (for tomboy
or gnote) or pause (for the media players)
Adding document shortcuts in the appmenus: 4 most recent documents and
other most used (in
Are there any suggestions towards jumplists?
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote:
The Jump-list stuff has been on my list for a while:
What we are facing here is:
Adding actions to the appmenus: new tab (browser), new note (for tomboy
or gnote) or pause
What is the language used to develop?
Cheers
Seif
On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Alexander Larsson al...@redhat.com wrote:
During the 3.2 cycle I developed the Gnome Contacts app from scratch
based on designs (and interaction with) Allan Day. There wasn't much
interaction with other
Hey Sriram
I don't think the new GNOME policies allow me to introduce or suggest
Zeitgeist as a policy.
But rather require a feature to require Zeitgeist...
Jump-lists in my opinion require Zeitgeist. Also Federico had sent a mail
suggesting the jumplists with Zeitgeist as a feature proposal but
Found the 2 links where we tried to open this subject...
Me:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-October/msg00026.html
Federico:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2011-October/msg00166.html
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote
What about frequent files?
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Matthias Clasen
matthias.cla...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me
wrote:
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Frederic Peters fpet...@gnome.org
wrote:
Hello all,
+ Jumplists
have is chronological
order. With Zeitgeist its easier to detect such noise, by knowing the
count, which allows us make more use of the slots.
4 recently used + 4 most used (within the last week).
Cheers
Seif
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:32 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote:
What about frequent
Lets avoid the fact that this is by MS, it is still useful to look at.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/products/features/jump-lists
They distinguish between recently and frequently used too
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote:
Let me elaborate,
One
Well during this UDS they tasked the Zeitgeist team to work on putting in
the frequently and recently used into their jumplists.
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-zeitgeist
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.mewrote:
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at
is if the
app is running and pushed them into the jumplists.
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Florian Müllner fmuell...@gnome.orgwrote:
On dom, 2011-11-06 at 21:52 +0100, Seif Lotfy wrote:
Lets avoid the fact that this is by MS, it is still useful to look at.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Florian Müllner fmuell...@gnome.orgwrote:
On dom, 2011-11-06 at 22:52 +0100, Seif Lotfy wrote:
What you see for me doesnt necessarily mean that the program
populates the jumplist alone. It means the items in the jumplist are
prgram specific.
To me
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Jasper St. Pierre jstpie...@mecheye.netwrote:
On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote:
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Florian Müllner fmuell...@gnome.org
wrote:
On dom, 2011-11-06 at 22:52 +0100, Seif Lotfy wrote:
What you
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Florian Müllner fmuell...@gnome.org wrote:
On lun, 2011-11-07 at 00:23 +0100, Seif Lotfy wrote:
On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 12:10 AM, Florian Müllner fmuell...@gnome.org
To me it means that the application is in control of what
appears
*Purpose:
*Zeitgeist is an event logging framework. It stores user activity in a
structured manner and provides a powerful DBus API to query and monitor the
log. Zeitgeist as such does not have a graphical component, but is intended
to integrate wherever it makes sense. Just like Tracker, Folks
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Milan Bouchet-Valat nalimi...@club.frwrote:
Le mardi 17 avril 2012 à 22:47 +0200, Seif Lotfy a écrit :
Purpose:
Zeitgeist is an event logging framework. It stores user activity in a
structured manner and provides a powerful DBus API to query and
monitor
integration code.
andre
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 22:47 +0200, Seif Lotfy wrote:
Purpose:
Zeitgeist is an event logging framework. It stores user activity in a
structured manner and provides a powerful DBus API to query and
monitor the log. Zeitgeist as such does not have a graphical
component
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:35 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote:
...
There are 3 issues in discussion or in development where Zeitgeist
integration is reaching a halt due to the uncertainty of where Zeitgeist
stands:
Epiphany (Web): There has
features that are not proposed for 3.6 but would it
work if I proposed our Activity Log Manager for GNOME 3.6 as a feature... I
guess not, since Zeitgeist is not the main mean for logging activities in
GNOME. What do you think?
Cheers
Seif
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:43 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 23:43 +0200, Seif Lotfy wrote:
Clocks: The clocks app is designed by the GNOME designers.
It is still more
or less a prototype I am working on alongside Emily Gonyer
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Bastien Nocera had...@hadess.net wrote:
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 02:20 +0200, Seif Lotfy wrote:
So let me try to take Web use cases that could use Zeitgeist:
* The user wants to type in the location bar and have
suggestions pop out while typing
Ben, Peter, and Bruce share links to interesting articles and videos and
sometimes they can't check it, like if Bruce is in a meeting or out and
about on his phone, but if his computer also kept track of the link in IM,
then he could look at it then.
So one thing is that Bruce is unavailable to
, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 23:43 +0200, Seif Lotfy wrote:
Clocks: The clocks app is designed by the GNOME designers.
It is still more
or less a prototype I am working on alongside Emily Gonyer.
We wanted to
make use of Zeitgeist in storing Alarms as a type
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote:
...
So a possible view for this feature can be done in Web: Links received can
then be automatically put in the queue of Web. And once visited can be taken
issues should be considered valid. So application
maintainers don't have to take care of their logs (some technical
outsourcing :P)
Cheers
Seif
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote:
Purpose:
Zeitgeist is an event logging framework. It stores user activity
. But on the whole,
I'm going to agree with them: Zeitgeist *isn't* the right technology
for our finding and reminding strategy.
On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote:
I would like to quote Allan Day (from another public mail thread):
---
I realise that you're
Hey Luis.
Very good question. Zeitgeist and Tracker are compeletely different.
Tracker is a metadata storage. It is used to store tags and
information about files and other data on your computer.
Zeitgeist is a log. It is a very intelligent and responsive log. We
can not do what tracker providers.
Hi Olav,
Thanks a lot for clearing it up. This makes a lot of sense.
As I see it there is two ways to approach this:
1) Implement first then propose as an external dependency:The risk is
that implementation is done and GNOME decides the dependency is
unacceptable, thus rendering a couple of
I agree with Florian here. It took me a bit of time to interact with
the design team but it is possible.
It is a very young team and extremely busy and overloaded. They are
welcoming for anyone to work with them on design and once you get
their attention they will help you integrate more. The best
While this thread reflects a bit about some community observations on
how things are handled in GNOME, and i support such a discussion, I
find it a bit off-topic. Can we start a new thread discussing these
issues or so.
Let us stay on topic.
Can an applications use Zeitgeist for
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Florian Max florian.muell...@gmail.com wrote:
In the end your history is scattered all over the place :P
The logs are there and there is not common way to manage them. Having
a central log like Zeitgeist will allow you to develop policies and
blacklist for
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote:
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 18:21 +0200, Florian Max wrote:
Which brings us to the matter of openness: the results of everything
the design team does ends up on the GNOME wiki under
live.gnome.org/Design.
I think people are
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna s...@ramkrishna.me
wrote:
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote:
On Sun, 2012-04-22 at 18:21 +0200, Florian Max wrote:
Which brings us
OK first let us all please calm down (This does not apply to Emmanuele,
since he seems always calm :P)
We all have the best intentions at heart. I think Federico knows exactly
that the design team has best intentions. And I hope the design team knows
that Federico has the same intentions.
This
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Shaun McCance sha...@gnome.org wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 16:11 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:58 -0400, Shaun McCance wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 10:54 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
Hello Federico,
Em Mon, 2012-04-23 às
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 8:39 PM, Andre Klapper ak...@gmx.net wrote:
On Tue, 2012-04-24 at 16:11 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
--8--
From: Maître D'
Subject: Spitting in the soup
The kitchen staff IS NOT welcome to:
* Spit in the soup
--8--
I didn't say you spat in the soup
I am happy Allan drafted the problem thoroughly and and also provided
initial steps that could solve it.
Well done.
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Karen Sandler ka...@gnome.org wrote:
On Wed, April 25, 2012 9:27 am, Allan Day wrote:
Echoing what Brian said, I like these suggestions for
I created a new wiki page for this. Hylke and Garrett have been helping out
on the idea and the design.
https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointFive/Features/FindingAndRediscoveringSharedLinks
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Federico Mena Quintero
feder...@gnome.orgwrote:
On Thu, 2012-04-19 at 15:48
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Allan Day allanp...@gmail.com wrote:
Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com wrote:
I created a new wiki page for this. Hylke and Garrett have been helping
out
on the idea and the design.
https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointFive/Features
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