In spite of what was intended to be an out of channel email (thank you
gmail for deciding to change the email address, grr ;{)
I both recognize that these resources exist, think that they are not
appropriate for this channel, but think they ARE appropriate "in some other
channel". Given the
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Michael Shuler wrote:
> I won't reply to the obvious spam to hilight it any further, so new
> message..
>
> Could the mailing list moderator that approved the "client list" message
> identify themselves and possibly explain how that was
No replies, please.
This was resolved privately and was a simple mistake.
--
Kind regards,
Michael
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Daryl Hawken
wrote:
> +1.
>
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Michael Shuler
> wrote:
>
> > I won't reply to the obvious spam to hilight it any further, so new
> > message..
> >
> > Could the mailing list
+1.
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Michael Shuler
wrote:
> I won't reply to the obvious spam to hilight it any further, so new
> message..
>
> Could the mailing list moderator that approved the "client list" message
> identify themselves and possibly explain how that
I won't reply to the obvious spam to hilight it any further, so new
message..
Could the mailing list moderator that approved the "client list" message
identify themselves and possibly explain how that was seen as a valid
message about the development of Apache Cassandra?
--
Kind regards,
On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 09:01:39AM +, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Because of the way we are structured from an operations point of view or is
> necessary to have s commit bit to be a PMC member. However, that doesn't mean
> one needs to commit code.
>
> A good PMC member looks after the health of
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Yet you act like it's volunteer time that's preventing moderating a message
> through in 12 hours.
Here it is again, 12 hours. If we have a 12 hour SLA on moderation,
then you can remove me as a moderator
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote:
> I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the only one with moderator privs. Any other
> committer/PMCs interested?
You are not.
> Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and I've been traveling this week.
No need to be sorry.
--
indly to bring her
> conversation to the list. 12 hours later it's still in moderation, and we are
> arguing whether to f'ing moderate it through. Wow. Great job.
Wait, what? As a moderator of this list (unpaid, volunteer), did I
miss the SLA I was being held to? Are you volunteering to moderate
this list?
--
Eric Evans
john.eric.ev...@gmail.com
members who have never committed a
line of code.
Ross
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Twitter: @rgardler
_
From: Jonathan Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com<mailto:j...@jonhaddad.com>>
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: Moderation
To: <bo...@apache.org<mailto:bo...@a
It was nothing but an expression of my belief that Chris' excuses for his
inappropriate behaviour were wholly inadequate.
This is not an isolated incident; it is a pattern of behaviour, and excuses
do not cut it. Anything less than a wholesale acceptance of
inappropriateness, retraction, and
If this is your attempt to accept Chris' explanation, even if
you don't agree with it, then you have not quite succeeded.
If instead, this is your attempt to continue to heap fuel on
a fire, and be just as aggressive as you paint others to be, then
you have done quite well.
I don't expect that
e of the same people that eventually came onto the
>> thread were people
>> who were communicating with her on Twitter – this was disappointing
>>as
>> they could have
>> done the same thing, and suggested Kelly come to the lists, Apache
>> Cassandra PMC or
n some Board members getting involved. Again, I
> asked Kelly why talk
> there, and why not just talk to the email list which is the canonical
> home for Apache Cassandra?
> She told me she sent the mail the prior night.
> 4. So of course I checked (after having already gu
r dialogue had
> continued with several
> ASF members and even some Board members getting involved. Again, I asked
> Kelly why talk
> there, and why not just talk to the email list which is the canonical home
> for Apache Cassandra?
> She told me she sent the mail the prior night.
ed (after having already guessed it was stuck in
moderation) and yes it
was. What ensued was both frustration by my part and also email
conversation that was heated
on both sides. I felt swiped on by a few emails where I had good intentions
but I felt we were
wasting time debating wh
talk to the email list which is the canonical home for
Apache Cassandra?
She told me she sent the mail the prior night.
4. So of course I checked (after having already guessed it was stuck in
moderation) and yes it
was. What ensued was both frustration by my part and also email conversation
ent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Nov 4, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Jason Brown
> > > <jasedbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > s/sis/is
> > > > >
>
> > >>>
> > > >>> Jason I can add you - please confirm you would like to
> > be added. Did
> > > you
> > > >>> file the ticket - if so point me to it. If you
> > haven't yet, no worries
> > > I
> > > >>> can still add you. Let me know. Thanks.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> On 2016-11-04 09:54 (-0700), Jason Brown
> > <jasedbr...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>> Gary,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I've just started looking into the moderator
> > component due to this
> > > >>> thread;
> > > >>>> I admit I did not know about it before (my fault).
> > Yes, I would like
> > > to
> > > >>> be
> > > >>>> added. Apparently, I need to file an INFRA ticket
> > (as per
> > > >>>>
> > https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mailing-list-moderators),
> > > >>> which
> > > >>>> I will do in the next few minutes.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -Jason
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek
> > <gdusba...@gmail.com>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the
> > only one with moderator privs. Any
> > > >>> other
> > > >>>>> committer/PMCs interested?
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and
> > I've been traveling this week.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Gary.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann
> > <mattm...@apache.org>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Hi Folks,
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Kelly Sommers sent a message to
> > dev@cassandra and I'm trying to
> > > >>> figure
> > > >>>>>> out if it's in moderation.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Can the moderators speak up?
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Cheers,
> > > >>>>>> Chris
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
> >>> be
> > >>>> added. Apparently, I need to file an INFRA ticket
> (as per
> > >>>>
> https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mailing-list-moderators),
> > >>> which
> > >>>> I will do in the next few minutes.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Jason
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek
> <gdusba...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the
> only one with moderator privs. Any
> > >>> other
> > >>>>> committer/PMCs interested?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and
> I've been traveling this week.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Gary.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann
> <mattm...@apache.org>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi Folks,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Kelly Sommers sent a message to
> dev@cassandra and I'm trying to
> > >>> figure
> > >>>>>> out if it's in moderation.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Can the moderators speak up?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>> Chris
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
> >>>> I admit I did not know about it before (my fault).
> Yes, I would like
> > to
> > >>> be
> > >>>> added. Apparently, I need to file an INFRA ticket
> (as per
> > >>>>
> https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mailing-list-moderators),
> > >>> which
> > >>>> I will do in the next few minutes.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Jason
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek
> <gdusba...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the
> only one with moderator privs. Any
> > >>> other
> > >>>>> committer/PMCs interested?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and
> I've been traveling this week.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Gary.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann
> <mattm...@apache.org>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi Folks,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Kelly Sommers sent a message to
> dev@cassandra and I'm trying to
> > >>> figure
> > >>>>>> out if it's in moderation.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Can the moderators speak up?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>> Chris
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>
> this
> > >>> thread;
> > >>>> I admit I did not know about it before (my fault). Yes, I would
> like
> > to
> > >>> be
> > >>>> added. Apparently, I need to file an INFRA ticket (as per
>
Sigh - sorry about breaking threading, the In-Reply-To header apparently
didn't get set when using "reply via your own mail client" from
lists.a.o. Luckily, it runs code from the Apache Pony Mail podling, so
hopefully we can fix it ourselves!
- Shane
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek
<gdusba...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the only one with moderator
privs. Any
> >>> other
> >>>&g
inutes.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Jason
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek <gdusba...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm beginn
On 2016-11-04 14:52 (-0400), Jeff Beck wrote:
> Is there an easy place to get up to speed on all the ASF terms?
> Infra Karma, apmail, etc... I feel behind on understanding what is
> being talked about here.
Sure. Jake sent the glossary, but there are some other good
>>>> I will do in the next few minutes.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Jason
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek <gdusba...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> &g
>>> https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mailing-list-moderators
> ),
> > which
> > >>>> I will do in the next few minutes.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Jason
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek <gdusba...@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the only one with moderator privs.
> > Any other
> > >>>>> committer/PMCs interested?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and I've been traveling this
> week.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Gary.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann <
> mattm...@apache.org>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi Folks,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to
> > figure
> > >>>>>> out if it's in moderation.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Can the moderators speak up?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>> Chris
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>
> >
>
INFRA ticket (as per
> >>>> https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mailing-list-moderators),
> which
> >>>> I will do in the next few minutes.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Jason
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 a
; >>>
> >>> Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and I've been traveling this week.
> >>>
> >>> Gary.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Folks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure
> >>>> out if it's in moderation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can the moderators speak up?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Chris
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>>>> -Jason
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek <gdusba...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the only one with moderator privs. Any
>>> other
>>>>>
>
>>> Gary.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure
>>>> out if it's in moderation.
>>>>
>>>> Can the moderators speak up?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
privs. Any
> other
> > > committer/PMCs interested?
> > >
> > > Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and I've been traveling this week.
> > >
> > > Gary.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org>
mitter/PMCs interested?
> >
> > Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and I've been traveling this week.
> >
> > Gary.
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Folks,
> > >
> >
his week.
>
> Gary.
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure
> > out if it's in moderation.
> >
> > Can the moderators speak up?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Chris
> >
> >
>
go through
> the
> > > first time? Is it that hard to figure out? Really?
> > >
> > > This is the definition of making things hard and not making them easy
> or
> > > friendly. And this is also exactly what enables people to sound off on
> &g
ly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure
> out if it's in moderation.
>
> Can the moderators speak up?
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
>
had on Apache mailing lists. Kelly has been tweeting for days. I saw her
> > tweets retweeted by someone in my feed, and yesterday asked her kindly to
> > bring her conversation to the list. 12 hours later it's still in
> > moderation, and we are arguing whether to f'ing moderate it
ople to sound off on
> Twitter about a project, and loses the conversation that could have been
> had on Apache mailing lists. Kelly has been tweeting for days. I saw her
> tweets retweeted by someone in my feed, and yesterday asked her kindly to
> bring her conversation to the list. 1
ling lists. Kelly has been tweeting for days. I saw her tweets retweeted by
someone in my feed, and yesterday asked her kindly to bring her conversation to
the list. 12 hours later it's still in moderation, and we are arguing whether
to f'ing moderate it through. Wow. Great job.
On 2016-11-04 09
Is the message in moderation because
1) it was sent by someone not registered with the list
2) some other reason (anti-spam etc)
If it is is case 1: Isn't the correct process to inform and encourage
someone list properly?
If it is case 2: Is there an expected ETA for list moderation events
the message through?
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 4, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On 04/11/2016 15:47, Chris Mattmann wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure out
On 04/11/2016 15:47, Chris Mattmann wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure out if
> it's in moderation.
>
> Can the moderators speak up?
Using my infra karma, I checked the mail server. That message is waiting
for
Hi Folks,
Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure out if
it's in moderation.
Can the moderators speak up?
Cheers,
Chris
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