Re: Spam Moderation

2017-03-23 Thread daemeon reiydelle
In spite of what was intended to be an out of channel email (thank you gmail for deciding to change the email address, grr ;{) I both recognize that these resources exist, think that they are not appropriate for this channel, but think they ARE appropriate "in some other channel". Given the

Re: Spam Moderation

2017-03-23 Thread Eric Evans
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Michael Shuler wrote: > I won't reply to the obvious spam to hilight it any further, so new > message.. > > Could the mailing list moderator that approved the "client list" message > identify themselves and possibly explain how that was

Re: Spam Moderation

2017-03-23 Thread Michael Shuler
No replies, please. This was resolved privately and was a simple mistake. -- Kind regards, Michael

Re: Spam Moderation

2017-03-23 Thread Edward Capriolo
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Daryl Hawken wrote: > +1. > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Michael Shuler > wrote: > > > I won't reply to the obvious spam to hilight it any further, so new > > message.. > > > > Could the mailing list

Re: Spam Moderation

2017-03-23 Thread Daryl Hawken
+1. On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Michael Shuler wrote: > I won't reply to the obvious spam to hilight it any further, so new > message.. > > Could the mailing list moderator that approved the "client list" message > identify themselves and possibly explain how that

Spam Moderation

2017-03-23 Thread Michael Shuler
I won't reply to the obvious spam to hilight it any further, so new message.. Could the mailing list moderator that approved the "client list" message identify themselves and possibly explain how that was seen as a valid message about the development of Apache Cassandra? -- Kind regards,

Re: Moderation

2016-11-09 Thread Isabel Drost-Fromm
On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 09:01:39AM +, Ross Gardler wrote: > Because of the way we are structured from an operations point of view or is > necessary to have s commit bit to be a PMC member. However, that doesn't mean > one needs to commit code. > > A good PMC member looks after the health of

Re: Moderation

2016-11-07 Thread Eric Evans
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> wrote: > Yet you act like it's volunteer time that's preventing moderating a message > through in 12 hours. Here it is again, 12 hours. If we have a 12 hour SLA on moderation, then you can remove me as a moderator

Re: Moderation

2016-11-07 Thread Eric Evans
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek wrote: > I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the only one with moderator privs. Any other > committer/PMCs interested? You are not. > Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and I've been traveling this week. No need to be sorry. --

Re: Moderation

2016-11-07 Thread Eric Evans
indly to bring her > conversation to the list. 12 hours later it's still in moderation, and we are > arguing whether to f'ing moderate it through. Wow. Great job. Wait, what? As a moderator of this list (unpaid, volunteer), did I miss the SLA I was being held to? Are you volunteering to moderate this list? -- Eric Evans john.eric.ev...@gmail.com

Re: Moderation

2016-11-07 Thread Ross Gardler
members who have never committed a line of code. Ross --- Twitter: @rgardler _ From: Jonathan Haddad <j...@jonhaddad.com<mailto:j...@jonhaddad.com>> Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 11:47 PM Subject: Re: Moderation To: <bo...@apache.org<mailto:bo...@a

Re: Moderation

2016-11-06 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
It was nothing but an expression of my belief that Chris' excuses for his inappropriate behaviour were wholly inadequate. This is not an isolated incident; it is a pattern of behaviour, and excuses do not cut it. Anything less than a wholesale acceptance of inappropriateness, retraction, and

Re: Moderation

2016-11-06 Thread Jim Jagielski
If this is your attempt to accept Chris' explanation, even if you don't agree with it, then you have not quite succeeded. If instead, this is your attempt to continue to heap fuel on a fire, and be just as aggressive as you paint others to be, then you have done quite well. I don't expect that

Re: Moderation

2016-11-06 Thread Jeffrey Jirsa
e of the same people that eventually came onto the >> thread were people >> who were communicating with her on Twitter – this was disappointing >>as >> they could have >> done the same thing, and suggested Kelly come to the lists, Apache >> Cassandra PMC or

Re: Moderation

2016-11-06 Thread Jonathan Haddad
n some Board members getting involved. Again, I > asked Kelly why talk > there, and why not just talk to the email list which is the canonical > home for Apache Cassandra? > She told me she sent the mail the prior night. > 4. So of course I checked (after having already gu

Re: Moderation

2016-11-06 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
r dialogue had > continued with several > ASF members and even some Board members getting involved. Again, I asked > Kelly why talk > there, and why not just talk to the email list which is the canonical home > for Apache Cassandra? > She told me she sent the mail the prior night.

Re: Moderation

2016-11-06 Thread Chris Mattmann
ed (after having already guessed it was stuck in moderation) and yes it was. What ensued was both frustration by my part and also email conversation that was heated on both sides. I felt swiped on by a few emails where I had good intentions but I felt we were wasting time debating wh

Re: Moderation

2016-11-06 Thread Chris Mattmann
talk to the email list which is the canonical home for Apache Cassandra? She told me she sent the mail the prior night. 4. So of course I checked (after having already guessed it was stuck in moderation) and yes it was. What ensued was both frustration by my part and also email conversation

Re: Moderation

2016-11-05 Thread Jonathan Haddad
ent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > On Nov 4, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Jason Brown > > > <jasedbr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > s/sis/is > > > > > >

Re: Moderation

2016-11-05 Thread paul cannon
> > >>> > > > >>> Jason I can add you - please confirm you would like to > > be added. Did > > > you > > > >>> file the ticket - if so point me to it. If you > > haven't yet, no worries > > > I > > > >>> can still add you. Let me know. Thanks. > > > >>> > > > >>>> On 2016-11-04 09:54 (-0700), Jason Brown > > <jasedbr...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > >>>> Gary, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I've just started looking into the moderator > > component due to this > > > >>> thread; > > > >>>> I admit I did not know about it before (my fault). > > Yes, I would like > > > to > > > >>> be > > > >>>> added. Apparently, I need to file an INFRA ticket > > (as per > > > >>>> > > https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mailing-list-moderators), > > > >>> which > > > >>>> I will do in the next few minutes. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> -Jason > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek > > <gdusba...@gmail.com> > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the > > only one with moderator privs. Any > > > >>> other > > > >>>>> committer/PMCs interested? > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and > > I've been traveling this week. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Gary. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann > > <mattm...@apache.org> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> Hi Folks, > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Kelly Sommers sent a message to > > dev@cassandra and I'm trying to > > > >>> figure > > > >>>>>> out if it's in moderation. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Can the moderators speak up? > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Cheers, > > > >>>>>> Chris > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >

Re: Moderation

2016-11-05 Thread Russell Bradberry
> >>> be > > >>>> added. Apparently, I need to file an INFRA ticket > (as per > > >>>> > https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mailing-list-moderators), > > >>> which > > >>>> I will do in the next few minutes. > > >>>> > > >>>> -Jason > > >>>> > > >>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek > <gdusba...@gmail.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the > only one with moderator privs. Any > > >>> other > > >>>>> committer/PMCs interested? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and > I've been traveling this week. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Gary. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann > <mattm...@apache.org> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Hi Folks, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Kelly Sommers sent a message to > dev@cassandra and I'm trying to > > >>> figure > > >>>>>> out if it's in moderation. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Can the moderators speak up? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>> Chris > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >

Re: Moderation

2016-11-05 Thread Mark Struberg
> >>>> I admit I did not know about it before (my fault). > Yes, I would like > > to > > >>> be > > >>>> added. Apparently, I need to file an INFRA ticket > (as per > > >>>> > https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mailing-list-moderators), > > >>> which > > >>>> I will do in the next few minutes. > > >>>> > > >>>> -Jason > > >>>> > > >>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek > <gdusba...@gmail.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the > only one with moderator privs. Any > > >>> other > > >>>>> committer/PMCs interested? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and > I've been traveling this week. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Gary. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann > <mattm...@apache.org> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Hi Folks, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Kelly Sommers sent a message to > dev@cassandra and I'm trying to > > >>> figure > > >>>>>> out if it's in moderation. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Can the moderators speak up? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>> Chris > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread San Luoji
> this > > >>> thread; > > >>>> I admit I did not know about it before (my fault). Yes, I would > like > > to > > >>> be > > >>>> added. Apparently, I need to file an INFRA ticket (as per >

Re: Moderation - Apache terms

2016-11-04 Thread Shane Curcuru
Sigh - sorry about breaking threading, the In-Reply-To header apparently didn't get set when using "reply via your own mail client" from lists.a.o. Luckily, it runs code from the Apache Pony Mail podling, so hopefully we can fix it ourselves! - Shane

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Russell Bradberry
>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek <gdusba...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the only one with moderator privs. Any > >>> other > >>>&g

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
inutes. > >>>> > >>>> -Jason > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek <gdusba...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I'm beginn

Re: Moderation - Apache terms

2016-11-04 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 2016-11-04 14:52 (-0400), Jeff Beck wrote: > Is there an easy place to get up to speed on all the ASF terms? > Infra Karma, apmail, etc... I feel behind on understanding what is > being talked about here. Sure. Jake sent the glossary, but there are some other good

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Russell Bradberry
>>>> I will do in the next few minutes. > >>>> > >>>> -Jason > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek <gdusba...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > &g

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Jake Farrell
>>> https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mailing-list-moderators > ), > > which > > >>>> I will do in the next few minutes. > > >>>> > > >>>> -Jason > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek <gdusba...@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the only one with moderator privs. > > Any other > > >>>>> committer/PMCs interested? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and I've been traveling this > week. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Gary. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann < > mattm...@apache.org> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Hi Folks, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to > > figure > > >>>>>> out if it's in moderation. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Can the moderators speak up? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Cheers, > > >>>>>> Chris > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > >

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Jeff Beck
INFRA ticket (as per > >>>> https://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mailing-list-moderators), > which > >>>> I will do in the next few minutes. > >>>> > >>>> -Jason > >>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 a

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
; >>> > >>> Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and I've been traveling this week. > >>> > >>> Gary. > >>> > >>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi Folks, > >>>> > >>>> Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure > >>>> out if it's in moderation. > >>>> > >>>> Can the moderators speak up? > >>>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Chris > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> >

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3010)
>>>> -Jason >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Gary Dusbabek <gdusba...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm beginning to wonder if I'm the only one with moderator privs. Any >>> other >>>>>

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Michael Kjellman
> >>> Gary. >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Folks, >>>> >>>> Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure >>>> out if it's in moderation. >>>> >>>> Can the moderators speak up? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> >>> >>

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Jason Brown
privs. Any > other > > > committer/PMCs interested? > > > > > > Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and I've been traveling this week. > > > > > > Gary. > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org>

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
mitter/PMCs interested? > > > > Sorry, it's a chore to begin with and I've been traveling this week. > > > > Gary. > > > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > >

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Jason Brown
his week. > > Gary. > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Chris Mattmann <mattm...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > Hi Folks, > > > > Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure > > out if it's in moderation. > > > > Can the moderators speak up? > > > > Cheers, > > Chris > > > > >

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
go through > the > > > first time? Is it that hard to figure out? Really? > > > > > > This is the definition of making things hard and not making them easy > or > > > friendly. And this is also exactly what enables people to sound off on > &g

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Gary Dusbabek
ly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure > out if it's in moderation. > > Can the moderators speak up? > > Cheers, > Chris > >

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
had on Apache mailing lists. Kelly has been tweeting for days. I saw her > > tweets retweeted by someone in my feed, and yesterday asked her kindly to > > bring her conversation to the list. 12 hours later it's still in > > moderation, and we are arguing whether to f'ing moderate it

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Benedict Elliott Smith
ople to sound off on > Twitter about a project, and loses the conversation that could have been > had on Apache mailing lists. Kelly has been tweeting for days. I saw her > tweets retweeted by someone in my feed, and yesterday asked her kindly to > bring her conversation to the list. 1

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
ling lists. Kelly has been tweeting for days. I saw her tweets retweeted by someone in my feed, and yesterday asked her kindly to bring her conversation to the list. 12 hours later it's still in moderation, and we are arguing whether to f'ing moderate it through. Wow. Great job. On 2016-11-04 09

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Edward Capriolo
Is the message in moderation because 1) it was sent by someone not registered with the list 2) some other reason (anti-spam etc) If it is is case 1: Isn't the correct process to inform and encourage someone list properly? If it is case 2: Is there an expected ETA for list moderation events

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (3010)
the message through? Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 4, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote: > >> On 04/11/2016 15:47, Chris Mattmann wrote: >> Hi Folks, >> >> Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure out

Re: Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Mark Thomas
On 04/11/2016 15:47, Chris Mattmann wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure out if > it's in moderation. > > Can the moderators speak up? Using my infra karma, I checked the mail server. That message is waiting for

Moderation

2016-11-04 Thread Chris Mattmann
Hi Folks, Kelly Sommers sent a message to dev@cassandra and I'm trying to figure out if it's in moderation. Can the moderators speak up? Cheers, Chris