Re: wiki choice: moinmoin vs confluence

2013-05-19 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Robert Newson rnew...@apache.org wrote: I'm -0.9 (see http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html) on switching to Confluence. The choice of wiki technology is a tiny factor, in my opinion. No wiki is useful without active maintenance. Unless there's a horde

Re: wiki choice: moinmoin vs confluence

2013-05-19 Thread Noah Slater
On 19 May 2013 08:57, Dirkjan Ochtman dirk...@ochtman.nl wrote: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM, Noah Slater nsla...@apache.org wrote: 1) Yes! Let's get the docs/ sorted out! Moving NEWS/CHANGES into them. Moving CouchDB: The Definitive Guide into them. Incorporating the docs into our

Re: wiki choice: moinmoin vs confluence

2013-05-19 Thread Filippo Fadda
The documentation in the source is a great idea, and it's great having it in Futon. In my opinion the wiki is superfluous and should be removed. My 2 cents. -Filippo

Re: wiki choice: moinmoin vs confluence

2013-05-18 Thread Noah Slater
Quick response: 1) Yes! Let's get the docs/ sorted out! Moving NEWS/CHANGES into them. Moving CouchDB: The Definitive Guide into them. Incorporating the docs into our merge and release procedure. Drumming up a docs team! (Dave! Dirkjan! Alexander! All the exclamation points!) 2) We will always

Re: wiki choice: moinmoin vs confluence

2013-05-17 Thread Paul Okstad
I'd prefer to have quality docs in the source code / .rst files if possible. Wikis are ok for evolving stuff but if it's actually usage of CouchDB proper, in the source is the way to go. You get history directly tied to source code / release versions for free too. I love having the manual

Re: wiki choice: moinmoin vs confluence

2013-05-09 Thread Dave Cottlehuber
On 1 May 2013 20:50, Paul Okstad poks...@gmail.com wrote: Hello dev team, I'm following up on a brief discussion I had with the CouchDB twitter account (my handle: @pokstad) regarding the official ASF wiki for CouchDB. I'm a CouchDB evangelist in both my personal projects and at my full

Re: wiki choice: moinmoin vs confluence

2013-05-09 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
Anyway, I'm really excited about CouchDB and I really want to contribute to the global documentation out there, but MoinMoin ain't making it easy. I really think that a move to a better documentation tool could be a huge push to CouchDB's adoption. Thanks for listening. Have you seen the new

Re: wiki choice: moinmoin vs confluence

2013-05-09 Thread Robert Newson
I'm definitely in favour of building up the docs/ effort to replace the wiki as *the* place to find out how couchdb works. I can't quite picture what will be left of the wiki when that's achieved. I guess the pages where we list contributors and couchdb-based projects, but not too much else. I'm

Re: wiki choice: moinmoin vs confluence

2013-05-08 Thread Joan Touzet
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 12:58:44PM -0700, Jens Alfke wrote: I agree; it's pretty unpleasant to use. I've been contributing to it intermittently for over a year but it's always a chore. +1 [snip] We use Confluence internally at Couchbase, but in practice people don't seem very happy with

wiki choice: moinmoin vs confluence

2013-05-01 Thread Paul Okstad
Hello dev team, I'm following up on a brief discussion I had with the CouchDB twitter account (my handle: @pokstad) regarding the official ASF wiki for CouchDB. I'm a CouchDB evangelist in both my personal projects and at my full time job at a large engineering company (not Atlassian, lol). When

Re: wiki choice: moinmoin vs confluence

2013-05-01 Thread Jens Alfke
On May 1, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Paul Okstad poks...@gmail.commailto:poks...@gmail.com wrote: I believe part of the reason for the lack of documentation is the lack luster moinmoin wiki. I agree; it's pretty unpleasant to use. I've been contributing to it intermittently for over a year but it's