if a service is down. This page is for your comfort.)
http://monitoring.apache.org/status/
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* Zeroconf support
* Unicode support
* Cross-platform: It runs on Microsoft Windows, Linux, Mac OS X and
other flavours of UN*X
* Gobby is free software and licenced under the GPL 2
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Ross Gardler wrote:
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What are we trying to achieve by using XHTML2 in the core?
When I proposed XHTML2, my main goal was to eliminate our own DTD
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for Cocoon, not to be
used in production.
That will be more efficient IMO.
Convenient for some developer perhaps, not efficient.
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prefer that we used a fixed precompiled version of Cocoon, so not to
be stuck with an an eventually broken Cocoon, and also that we do not
have to compile it ourselves.
More on this soon(ish).
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Should we give Cocoon committers access to the
Forrest repository?
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Nicola Ken Barozzi commented on FOR-655:
This is the idea, it's ok.
For every tag demoed, I would also add the tags in a
pre-code-whatsitnowcalled zone, so that one can
.
You are describing the CLI, only that the CLI uses an extra Cocoon
instance. If you look inside the implementation you will se all the
above, albeit with some bugs/unfinished parts. It just needs fixing.
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shown that
they sometimes want to help, but all others don't fit in the picture, so
my proposal is unnecessary.
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the codebase. Furthermore, being Forrest used in so many
Apache projects, it makes sense to open to them too, so that they can
help if they need it.
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David Crossley wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
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I would propose that commit access is given to all Apache committers; I
don't see why Lenya or Cocoon committers have more merit than any
other at Apache.
I would like to remind all that Gump has the same pattern of access, and
nobody screwed
that they haven't
yet.
That's why they are not to be part of the PMC automatically.
IOW, I trust them, so I give them access.
After earning merit we can have also participation in the project AKA be
a PMC member.
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HTTPD for multilingual sites.
Damn, I don't remember the thread, but we had come up with a decision on
how to define the filename. Rats.
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For legacy:
- xdoc to XHTML2 stylesheet and create XDoc input plugin
- document migration process
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with lots of
words and very little content, and even ignoring complete threads like
I'm already doing is proving to be not enough.
If the signal to noise ratio will not improve, we will have more
problems with newcomers, and I will be forced to unsubscribe for lack of
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Ross Gardler wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
10. XHTML Hypertext Module
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-hypertext.html
* 10.1. The a element
We don't need this, it's use is deprecated in XHTML2 by allowing an href
attribute on any element:
IMHO we should eventually support
David Crossley wrote:
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
AFAIK, from what I have read as answers to this question over the years,
the range should contain the year of creation and the year of the last
modification.
If it's a legal necessity or just customary... IANAL.
Just
David Crossley wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
First of all, please read the XHTML2 spec in the latest form ATOP:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-xhtml2-20050527/
Don't cheat, have you really read it? ;-P
To be sure, I'll leave some space on this page...
More space please - i read
work in the extra pipeline
Here we should be able to accept XHTML2 inpur and produce the usual output.
Bow for legacy:
- xdoc to XHTML2 stylesheet and create XDoc input plugin
- document internal format
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time so that your inner self will decide to read it,
just in case...
Gonna write another mail later :-D
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. If he doesn't respond, then we can set him inactive.
In any case, it's something that one can get out of by just coming back :-)
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PMC, exactly for the reasons you state above.
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would have given
them a lot of problems, so I can see the value in a higher barrier to
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Ross Gardler wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Johannes Schaefer wrote:
...
* The portal uses a configuration hierarchy:
1. define coplets
2. define instances
(may use coplets multiple times)
3. define the layout
How does it define layout?
Full details
in a helpset.
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defined as a page-templating system?
Still many questions and no good answer...
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as a portal
could make sense:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-devm=101431895118349
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Thorsten Scherler wrote:
On Wed, 2005-07-27 at 08:18 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
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Here is a small summary example:
forrest:hook class=testClass type=span nbsp=true/
forrest:hook name=testId type=span/
forrest:hook class=testClassDiv /
forrest:hook name=testIdDiv
code
The Project and Code part are going along quite nicely, but as you
correctly point out, Documentation is lacking, making it difficult for
the Community to participate.
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http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/Blockathon2005Report
btw, the pdf notes are nice.. what was that done with?
M$ Journal on my HP-Compaq 2100 Tablet PC, exported to TIFF and printed
to PDF using PDFCreator.
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Thorsten Scherler wrote:
On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 16:16 +0200, Unico Hommes wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Unico Hommes wrote:
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To make it easier for you to use it indipendently from Forrest, we could
add a separate ant target for building it and when we release Forrest,
keep
.
To make it easier for you to use it indipendently from Forrest, we could
add a separate ant target for building it and when we release Forrest,
keep it as a separate jar.
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David Crossley wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
What to do when there are two PMCs involved? I don't know.
Who will be responsible?
If we make a virtual list (which I prefer) that posts mails on both
developer lists with added [lefo] in the subject, then each PMC
for a [VOTE]
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would support we change the default external
representation to something akin to what Gregor proposes, and in
particular the same as the Lenya one.
I would be even more supportive if Lenya and Cocoon adopt the Maven one,
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Thorsten Scherler wrote:
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 08:43 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
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I would be even more supportive if Lenya and Cocoon adopt the Maven one,
so that we would have a single format for all these projects.
You mean http://maven.apache.org/maven2/site.html ?
The section
, and we can start processing by knowing
what the source is from the beginning.
Separation of Concerns: location resolving and processing fully
separate, also inside Cocoon.
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locationmaps.
btw, what the heck is that last one all about anyway?
hehehe ;-) It's the rounded corners.
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otherwise.
The user's locationmap should have a higher priority than Forrest's.
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duplication can occur.
Personally I would be fine to put all declarations in the main sitemap,
as it makes it clear what our dependencies are.
WDOT?
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Ross Gardler wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Tim Williams wrote:
I'm struggling determining whether the matching order of images can be
different from xml specifically with respect to locationmaps. Should
images *always* resolve through locationmaps as a last resort the same
as xml
have
opensource nirvana. Cool beans! :-)
[1] Since sayings are so different from place to place, I am inventing
my own, so all will be equally disoriented ;-)
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David Crossley wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
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I find this very alarming. Some people at Infrastructure are
trying to get a cross-project environment established for managing
documentation tools and site-building. All PMCs were asked to
join and discuss this. Some
[
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Nicola Ken Barozzi commented on FOR-173:
Actually this is not really what I meant with this particular bug.
I mean, imagine that we have a file called
myfile.xml
time but, as my
usual ;-P, i had not done anything concrete. Then Unico came along and
simply wrote it, amazing me by the reuse of the sitemap code itself.
The power of OpenSource :-)
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for the proposal
+0 for Lenya
applause for the one who sets up either system.
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integration would benefit both of us and make us concentrate on
what we like best.
Since Cocoon is already trying out Daisy+Forrest, I humbly propose that
ATM we start out with Lenya, although it's not a -1 if someone wants to
install Daisy in our zone too.
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Ross Gardler wrote:
...
May I also take this opportunity to thank Outerthought and Cocoondev.org
on behalf of the Apache Forrest project for hosting our issue tracker
for so long.
Yes, a warmhearted thanks to Steven, Jeff, and all involved. It has
really been of help.
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from work. Probably I will come
earlier, like Saturday or Sunday, but it depends on who is going to be
there on those days.
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are not attending the conference (Wed-Fri)?
Nope, I'm using the Apachecon simply as an opportunity of meeting people.
Do we need to rethink the scheduled date for our Views-seminar on
Thursday?
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are sometimes totally
incomprehensible. If I hadn't seen the code and did not have a similar
concept in mind, I think I would have not understood.
I think it's about time that I check out your work and give you
feedback. Where do I start?
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my request
for an example)
Cool stuff, this is moving! :-)
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http://www.webweavertech.com/jefft/weblog/archives/000263.html#000263
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serious request to infra.
That is not true. Justin at Infrastructure was asking for a few
projects to help test the initial setup. Yes there was a rush!
However, there is no need to rush. Each PMC is to eventually have
a zone.
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a production Forrest(bot). Or is that available in
the meanwhile and we just missed it?
My goal is to put a live Forrest on ASF infrastructure instead of the
bot and have that serve all Forrest-based sites in Apache, comprising Lenya.
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it. In any case, I don't want to ask for the usage of it if we
don't yet know what to do with it, hence the RT.
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their site served.
Thoughts, comments, opinions?
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David Crossley wrote:
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The Apache voting system is not used to settle competing views.
It is intended to ensure that people are happy with the
proposed course.
How true!
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Thorsten Scherler wrote:
On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 21:23 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 13:42 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
...
- making a skin have a default skinconf that can be overridden: in
this way, all Apache could have an Apache skin
that it can be used as a concrete base
to work upon. The ideal would be a skin without any class attribute for
normal tags, and all based on CSS.
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Thorsten Scherler wrote:
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All the best for you and I hope your real-life work will get a wee bit
more relaxed (it is not really healthy to work as much, you need time to
relax).
You are right, it's starting to get better now, so at least I can write
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Reinhard Poetz wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
...
- making a skin have a default skinconf that can be overridden: in
this way, all Apache could have an Apache skin with the copyright
already set, and a consistent look;
your ideas sound good but the question is: Where do the imported docs
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 13:42 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
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- making a skin have a default skinconf that can be overridden: in
this way, all Apache could have an Apache skin with the copyright
already set, and a consistent look;
Hmm, in 0.8 we will not have
wish I had time to help! :-/
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/forrest:property
The idea is to allow all xml within a forrest:property.
What about the proposal already in SVN, that we have discussed before?
Why not make the DTD completely correct without having all xml inside
forrest:property?
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Thorsten Scherler wrote:
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 10:36 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
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here is a proposal for a new skinconf format.
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.viewHelper/src/documentation/skinconf.proposal.xml?view
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
...
A nugget is a *BusinessHelper* that access one *BusinessService*. Which
then will provide data for the *PresentationModel*.
WDYT?
I have not read all the thread, but in general terms, it seems that the
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it in CVS is there to prove it.
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Ross Gardler wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
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Why not insert the metadata in the file itself like I proposed? I
prefer to keep faith to the 1 file - one output rule.
I guess our different views here are because of different use cases. You
seem to be assuming that you only ever want the meta
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
...
All that being said, Forrest could be made to support both a separate
file or embedded data (there are use cases where the simplistic
solution is the best one). The problem with this is that we will have
two locations for storing the same data
Ross Gardler wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
...
I agree to the intent, and in fact I had done a similar proposal,
although without considering the impact for the plugins.
Read this and tell me what you think, and how the two may fit.
[RT] Directory structure
is a special sitemap. What you need to do is to debug
inside the locationmap and see what is happening in the locator matches.
I know it's a trivial suggestion, but does this work?
locator base=.
match pattern=**
location src=plugindir/{1} /
/match
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. Maybe I read wrong, I don't remember the page.
I hope I have some time tomorrow to try it and debug it myself.
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I hope I have some time tomorrow to try it and debug it myself.
I couldn't resist ;-)
It takes forever to run also when doing 'forrest run', and also if the
link is set to 'index.html', so it's not a crawling problem.
The problem seems to reside in the handling
this to be implemented?
I'll look at the code and recast it as a proposal.
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Remember that we need a week for release testing.
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Dave Brondsema wrote:
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I bumped all 0.8 issues to 0.9. For 0.7, I bumped all non-bugs (features,
tasks, etc) and a few bugs to 0.8
+1
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the locationmap you can... once it's included in the mechanism :-)
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Ross Gardler wrote:
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So are any of these formats suitable? Which should we document as the
standard:
...
Comments/suggestions?
+0 to any
I honestly don't know if/how they will work one better than the other,
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