Re: [Proposal] HTML as base Forrest format

2005-01-05 Thread Thorsten Scherler
El mié, 05-01-2005 a las 09:52, Nicola Ken Barozzi escribió: Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... Forrest is about free choice of input/output formats. Just manifest that in the docu and that's it. What do *we* support as an input format? If we keep using xdocs ourselves, users will tend

Re: [VOTE] Forrest Project Guidelines

2005-01-31 Thread Thorsten Scherler
+1 -- thorsten Together we stand, divided we fall! Hey you (Pink Floyd)

Re: Indesign Erfahrungen

2005-02-14 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello list, I reckon this Mail was not intended to go to forrest-dev. If it was, please try to provide an english translation out of native mails, otherwise this list cannot help you. -- thorsten Together we stand, divided we fall! Hey you (Pink Floyd)

Re: [RT] Per document skinconf (was Re: coloring table cells [from the user list])

2005-02-23 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 12:00 +, Ross Gardler wrote: Johannes Schaefer wrote: Is there a valid way to specify a specific style for a single element in document-v1.3 (or v2.0)? The only way I see is to use a class attribute but this is not possible because each and every cell may have

Re: Maintainance of the Lenya Website (lenya.apache.org) again

2005-03-04 Thread Thorsten Scherler
NOTE: CC to forrest-dev because of point 2 from T. Schlabach. On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 20:18 +0100, Torsten Schlabach wrote: Dear all, there are still two issues which I am concerned with: 1. The cron job to update minotaur:/www/lenya.apache.org/ with svn.apache.org:/repos/asf/lenya/site

Re: Leather and global variables

2005-03-16 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-03-16 at 08:34 +, Ross Gardler wrote: I'm guessing you mean something like: map:generate src={project:conf-dir}/default.fv/ If so, my original reply was spot on: Do you mean where do we define *new* global variables that can be set in forrest.properties? You now need

License question about Adobe Indesign

2005-03-18 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello guys, I have a question about Adobe Indesign license. Would it be ok to partly reverse engineer the inx - format for us within a plugin? I am not talking about the whole format. I am talking about some attributes and storing habits of values. The idea would be to have inx-templates

Dynamic include of stylesheets

2005-03-23 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello devs, last night I committed the last changes on leather and fbits plugin. When I tested the per page view generation (after the commit) I had to see that it is not working. The fallback stylesheets are always included and not the site specific view. I am trying to include in the

Re: submission to live-sites.xml

2005-03-25 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Cheers, Roger. I added it to live-sites.xml salu2 On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 08:59 -0700, Roger Leuthner wrote: Would like to submit live site example of (older generation of) forrest-gen'd site, but don't have commit priv. There are a couple of customizations that *might* be interesting as

Re: svn commit: r159043 [1/2] - forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.fbits forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.views forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.views/resources forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.views/resources/stylesheets forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.views/resources/templates forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.views/src forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.views/src/documentation forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.views/src/documentation/classes forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.views/src/documentation/content forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.views/src/documentation/content/xdocs forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.views/src/documentation/content/xdocs/images

2005-03-25 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 20:08 +, Ross Gardler wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: thorsten Date: Fri Mar 25 10:50:59 2005 New Revision: 159043 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=159043 Log: Removed the fbit plugin and moved all pipes that we need to the views

Re: [HEADS-UP] fbits plugin is now org.apache.forrest.plugin.views

2005-03-25 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Fri, 2005-03-25 at 22:36 +, Ross Gardler wrote: ... c. map:match pattern=prepare.meta.* Aggregate the forrest:properties requested by the *.fv. The result is an aggregation of properties which defines the templates to be call. Why meta? Isn't this configuration data rather than

Re: SVN properties (Was: svn commit: r159468)

2005-03-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 19:13 +1000, David Crossley wrote: Due to all these fancy filename extensions for text files, committers are going to need to configure their SVN clients accordingly. http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-124 Sorry, but I did not want to have 3 different files called

Re: License question about Adobe Indesign

2005-03-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sat, 2005-03-19 at 15:40 +1100, David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Hello guys, I have a question about Adobe Indesign license. Would it be ok to partly reverse engineer the inx - format for us within a plugin? I am not talking about the whole format. I am talking

Re: SVN properties (Was: svn commit: r159468)

2005-03-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 15:01 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 19:13 +1000, David Crossley wrote: Due to all these fancy filename extensions for text files, committers are going to need to configure their SVN clients accordingly. http

Re: forrest:views not working for me

2005-03-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 03:31 +0200, Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 01:04 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Well it looks like another sleepless night for me, so I thought I'd try out forrest:views, unfortunately it doesn't work for me. A request for index.html (when doing forrest

Re: forrest:views not working for me

2005-03-31 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On a related note, can we delete the fpits plugin now that it is views? http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/forrest/trunk/plugins/ it is. Ross Yeah but not in http://forrest.apache.org/plugins/plugins.xml How can I deleted it from there? salu2 -- thorsten Together we stand,

Re: [DISCUSS] feeder plugin contract in the view

2005-03-31 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 01:55 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: I wrote a feeder contract for the view plugin. The feeder plugin provide a way to display feed as xdoc. /snip WDYT? Please discuss that because we should find a solution that has framework

Differents between 'forrest' and 'forrest run'

2005-04-04 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello devs, trying to deploy the view and leather plugin I found a weird thing happening: Doing 'forrest run' brings the site rendered by the plugins, but doing 'forrest' will use the normal skin. How come? How can I fix that? Any ideas? TIA salu2 -- thorsten Together we stand, divided we

Re: Differents between 'forrest' and 'forrest run'

2005-04-04 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 19:42 +1000, David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Hello devs, trying to deploy the view and leather plugin I found a weird thing happening: Doing 'forrest run' brings the site rendered by the plugins, but doing 'forrest' will use the normal skin

Re: Differents between 'forrest' and 'forrest run'

2005-04-04 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 20:41 +1000, David Crossley wrote: You will see the plugin get rendered by 'forrest' with the pelt skin in build/site. If you now turn to 'forrest run' instance you find a complete different skin. I get different behaviour. I see the same skins in both. It looks

Re: Differents between 'forrest' and 'forrest run'

2005-04-04 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 21:02 +1000, David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: David Crossley wrote: You will see the plugin get rendered by 'forrest' with the pelt skin in build/site. If you now turn to 'forrest run' instance you find a complete different skin. I get

Re: problem with docs at forrest.apache.org/docs/dev/

2005-04-05 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 12:01 -0400, Dave Brondsema wrote: Quoting David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Note that in this case, if 0.4 of the plugin works in 0.7 of Forrest we should also have the 0.4 plugin docs in

Re: 2nd generation skinning - view and leather

2005-04-05 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 21:49 +1000, David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: If somebody have some spare time and want to help us with the 2nd generation skinning you can: I will certainly be helping out, but not until 0.7

Re: 2nd generation skinning - view and leather

2005-04-06 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 09:31 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... A nugget is a *BusinessHelper* that access one *BusinessService*. Which then will provide data for the *PresentationModel*. WDYT? I have not read all the thread, but in general terms, it seems

Re: Differents between 'forrest' and 'forrest run'

2005-04-08 Thread Thorsten Scherler
I got error messages about plugins during the startup of both 'forrest' and 'forrest run'. I did not get these error messages from the forrest seed site below. That is what I mean. I now as well get the pelt skin and not the leather-plugin. I think that i might have

[Proposal] New format for skinconf

2005-04-10 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Gidday, here is a proposal for a new skinconf format. http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.viewHelper/src/documentation/skinconf.proposal.xml?view=autorev=160783 This is based on the recent user discussion (skinconf text elements in group.svg) which

Re: svn commit: r160775 - in forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.projectInfo: input.xmap resources/stylesheets/changes2document.xsl resources/stylesheets/dotdots.xsl status.xml

2005-04-10 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-04-10 at 14:06 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: crossley Date: Sun Apr 10 07:06:29 2005 New Revision: 160775 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=160775 Log: Enable changes.html and todo.html to also be in subdirectories. Use relative location of images

Re: suite of helper xsl templates (Was: svn commit: r160775)

2005-04-11 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 11:36 +1000, David Crossley wrote: I defined it in the viewHelper output.xmap like map:match pattern=dotdots map:generate src={forrest:context}/skins/common/xslt/html/dotdots.xsl/ map:serialize type=xml/ /map:match

Re: [Proposal] New format for skinconf

2005-04-11 Thread Thorsten Scherler
will be post 0.7, anyway, maybe we should generally discuss what belongs in skinconf.xml and what in e.g. contractconf.xml salu2 Thorsten Scherler wrote: Gidday, here is a proposal for a new skinconf format. http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/forrest/trunk/plugins

Re: status on leather-dev?

2005-04-11 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hi Diwaker, leather-dev is dead long live view/viewHelper. ;-) I made a screen shot of the view plugin (using the viewHelper plugin). http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/forrest/trunk/site-author/content/xdocs/docs/images/snapshot-view-viewHelper.png?view=markup The viewHelper is using the markup

Re: svn commit: r160846 - in forrest/site/plugins: ./ docs/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.OpenOffice.org/ docs/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.OpenOffice.org/samples/ docs/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.OpenOffice.org/samples/openOfficeEmbeddedImage/ docs/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.OpenOffice.org/samples/openOfficeEmbeddedImage/zip-openoffice-impress.sxi/ docs/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.OpenOffice.org/samples/openOfficeEmbeddedImage/zip-openoffice-impress.sxi/file-Pictures/

2005-04-11 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 08:38 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: rgardler Date: Mon Apr 11 01:38:42 2005 New Revision: 160846 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?view=revrev=160846 Log: Deployment plugins descriptor file (plugins.xml) (deployed by 'deploy-plugins.xml' target of plugin

Re: [Proposal] New format for skinconf

2005-04-11 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 10:36 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Gidday, here is a proposal for a new skinconf format. http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/forrest/trunk/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.viewHelper/src/documentation/skinconf.proposal.xml?view=autorev

Re: [Proposal] New format for skinconf

2005-04-11 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 13:17 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Can you post the link of the proposal, I could not find it. http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-144 Cheers Nicola. Yeah I am +1 to use the one in /etc/. The only addition would be to have @name in element. salu2 --

Re: [Proposal] New format for skinconf

2005-04-13 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 08:20 +0200, Reinhard Poetz wrote: [Sorry if I completly miss the point but as skinconf bothered me some hours a few weeks ago I can't resist on commenting on this] :) Cheers for your comments, you hit the nail on the head! The Cocoon project has the need for many

Re: [Proposal] New format for skinconf

2005-04-13 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 13:42 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 08:20 +0200, Reinhard Poetz wrote: [Sorry if I completly miss the point but as skinconf bothered me some hours a few weeks ago I can't resist on commenting on this] :) Cheers

Re: [Proposal] New format for skinconf

2005-04-13 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 21:23 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 13:42 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: ... - making a skin have a default skinconf that can be overridden: in this way, all Apache could have an Apache skin with the copyright

Re: Status on visual aspects of skins

2005-04-13 Thread Thorsten Scherler
I replied this thread first because the original will take me some time to answer. ;-) On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 22:52 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Shaun Evans wrote: Hi all, I haven't been a very good dev and haven't posted since last November, but I have monitored the progress of leather-dev

Re: [Proposal] New format for skinconf

2005-04-14 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 09:29 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 21:23 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 13:42 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: ... - making a skin have a default skinconf that can

Re: Status on visual aspects of skins

2005-04-14 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 22:03 +0100, Shaun Evans wrote: Hi all, I haven't been a very good dev and haven't posted since last November, but I have monitored the progress of leather-dev and it's implementation of the scale-dev css. Actually not much happened on leather-dev since November. Like

Re: [Proposal] New format for skinconf

2005-04-14 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 13:56 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... All the best for you and I hope your real-life work will get a wee bit more relaxed (it is not really healthy to work as much, you need time to relax). You are right, it's starting to get better

Re: Tidying up plugins for 0.7 release

2005-04-15 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 17:33 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: So, unless there is a -1 before by the end of the weekend I will move the following plugins to whiteboard/plugins next week. o.a.f.p.internal.views o.a.f.p.output.ViewHelper -1 on them, why in the whiteboard? I agree they are not

Re: using view/viewHelper

2005-04-15 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 16:33 -0700, Diwaker Gupta wrote: Hi everyone, I'm playing around with view/viewHelper -- pretty cool! Its easy to define new views by placing them in ${content-dir}/conf/. I can either use default.fv or define per-page views. All rocks. :) However, I wasn't very

Re: using view/viewHelper

2005-04-16 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hi Diwaker, firstly thanks for taking the time to test and give feedback. That is helping us so much. :) On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 21:53 -0700, Diwaker Gupta wrote: I made some changes to add custom css to the view. forrest:css url=someCss.css/ Life's good so far. Now, from what I see, it

Re: using view/viewHelper

2005-04-16 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 21:32 -0700, Diwaker Gupta wrote: I made some changes to add custom css to the view. Great! forrest:css url=someCss.css/ This tag has to be direct son from forrest:view! In the above link you will find: map:when test={project:skins-dir}{path}/{name}.css

Re: using view/viewHelper

2005-04-16 Thread Thorsten Scherler
I will have to go right now, but a quick response on that. On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 13:05 -0700, Diwaker Gupta wrote: I was looking at nav-main.ft, and found that the background images in the CSS were using URLs of the form '/skin/images/.gif' -- this assumes that the deployed forrest site is

Re: Tidying up plugins for 0.7 release

2005-04-16 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Fri, 2005-04-15 at 13:06 +0200, Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 17:33 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: So, unless there is a -1 before by the end of the weekend I will move the following plugins to whiteboard/plugins next week. o.a.f.p.internal.views

CSS in view/viewHelper (was Re: using view/viewHelper)

2005-04-16 Thread Thorsten Scherler
I opened up a new thread to respecify the focus. *Point 1 - css linking* On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 14:54 -0700, Diwaker Gupta wrote: After some playing around, I seriously think the CSS should be *completely* decoupled from the nugget contracts. The problem with the current implementation is that

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-18 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Sounds good. :) +1 salu2 On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 11:03 +1000, David Crossley wrote: A while ago we discussed our description of Forrest and concluded that it was a bit limiting. Actually trying to concisely summarise Forrest is a very difficult task. Here is what is was ...

Re: CSS in view/viewHelper (was Re: using view/viewHelper)

2005-04-18 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hi all, this week I am at a client, so my answer can take a while. On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 19:54 -0700, Diwaker Gupta wrote: Due to the way CSS works, if I have to define new properties for the nav-bar say, then I first have to UNDO all of the changes made by the CSS files loaded by

Re: CForms and forrest

2005-04-19 Thread Thorsten Scherler
org.apache.cocoon.forms.transformation.FormsTemplateTransformer I reckon I have not defined the needed components in the forrest-core.xconf and/or have not provided the needed jars in the lib. Anybody a hint what I have to do to enable the flow/cforms in forrest? TIA salu2 On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 11:49 +0200, Thorsten

Re: CForms and forrest

2005-04-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 11:19 +1000, David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Seems to be that I am the first one in trying to do it. I just did some testing, but I actually I get Message: null Description: No details available. Sender

[FYI] SVN server down

2005-04-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello devs, svn: Commit failed (details follow): svn: OPTIONS request failed on '/repos/asf/forrest/trunk/plugins' svn: OPTIONS of '/repos/asf/forrest/trunk/plugins': could not connect to server (https://svn.apache.org) Stay tuned. ;-) salu2 -- thorsten Together we stand, divided we fall!

Lenya and forrest integration

2005-04-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Sorry for the crosspost but it seems to be from interest for both lists. ;-) Hello devs, my customer wants to have forrest in lenya (or vice versa). :) The question that pops into to my head is the compatibility between the cocoon versions used by lenya/forrest. Lenya is officially supporting

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
:) Nice one, Brett, and welcome to forrest. I only would change just one sentence. On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 07:03 -0400, Brett Presnell wrote: David Crossley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is the proposal so far .. Apache Forrest is an XML standards-oriented documentation

Re: CForms and forrest

2005-04-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Cheers Ross. :) I will have a look on the code as soon as I can. It seems that the cform stuff right now is not priority one. Anyway thx a million. salu2 On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 12:44 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Seems to be that I am the first

Re: Lenya and forrest integration

2005-04-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 19:09 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Sorry for the crosspost but it seems to be from interest for both lists. ;-) Hello devs, my customer wants to have forrest in lenya (or vice versa). :) The question that pops into to my head

Re: Q: Site and unique element names

2005-04-21 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 13:02 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Ok, I am not the expert on that but have a look on: http://cocoon.apache.org/2.1/apidocs/org/apache/cocoon/components/modules/input/package-summary.html http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/cocoon/trunk/src/java

Re: Lenya and forrest integration

2005-04-22 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 21:59 -0400, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: A view will be configured by a config file which basically contains the following tags (it is still evolving): forrest:view type=xhtml forrest:css url=default.css/ forrest:contract name=meta

Re: view/viewHelper: contract placement

2005-04-23 Thread Thorsten Scherler
HEADSUP: the links are not working of the *old* mails, because we moved the plugins into the whiteboard. You have to manually change the url to the plugin from old mails. Hi Diwaker (can you set reply-to to this list or unset it, thanks), hi list, On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 16:03 -0700, Diwaker Gupta

Re: forrest:views not working for me

2005-03-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 01:04 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Well it looks like another sleepless night for me, so I thought I'd try out forrest:views, unfortunately it doesn't work for me. A request for index.html (when doing forrest run in the plugin dir) gives: ElemTemplateElement error:

Re: Lenya and forrest integration

2005-04-22 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 11:09 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Thu, 2005-04-21 at 21:59 -0400, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: ... i am not sure if i like all these config files and formats. looks a bit like 'programming by config file' to me. That is not programming

Re: Plugin dependencies (Re: view/viewHelper: contract placement)

2005-04-24 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Cheers for starting this, Ross. I was up to do it. :) On Sat, 2005-04-23 at 11:38 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... We have to start a howTo about the forrest dispatcher view implementation (view/viewHelper plugins) because now we have docu in both plugins

Re: RSS generated page as index

2005-04-25 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-04-24 at 23:15 -0700, Jason End wrote: I'm using MovableType to generate a news page for my site. Forrest then sucks the RSS into a weblog.xml file through a sitemap.xmap entry, as per the example on the Forrest site. Now I'd like that page to my main page. Ideally my main

Re: RSS generated page as index

2005-04-25 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 09:35 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Sun, 2005-04-24 at 23:15 -0700, Jason End wrote: I'm using MovableType to generate a news page for my site. Forrest then sucks the RSS into a weblog.xml file through a sitemap.xmap entry, as per the example

Re: RSS generated page as index

2005-04-25 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 11:22 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: The combination of view/viewHelper plugin is the solution we came up with to solve this problem. Hang on there. This is a much simpler use case if I understand correctly. The index page *is* the RSS feed in this case, the solution

Re: Plugin dependencies (Re: view/viewHelper: contract placement)

2005-04-25 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-04-25 at 11:24 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Sat, 2005-04-23 at 11:38 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... We have to start a howTo about the forrest dispatcher view implementation (view/viewHelper plugins) because now we

Re: Daisy plugin

2005-04-26 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 16:46 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Hello Ross, I just had a quick look on the daisy plugin. map:generate type=html src=http://{1}:{2}/{3}/{4}?navigationType=none; / How you make the auth to this url? I don't understand

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-27 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 10:25 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: David Crossley wrote: DC We can enhance the original. Ferdinand, i don't mean DC to dismiss any of your contribution. OK, that's fine by me. Just go ahead and change what bugged you about it. On the other hand: A lot of people

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-27 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 11:25 +0200, Johannes Schaefer wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 10:25 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: David Crossley wrote: DC We can enhance the original. Ferdinand, i don't mean DC to dismiss any of your contribution. OK, that's fine by me

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-27 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 21:51 +1000, David Crossley wrote: The Apache voting system is not used to settle competing views. It is intended to ensure that people are happy with the proposed course. If a vote fails then we go back to the proposal stage and come up with something different. You

Re: svn commit: r165014 - /forrest/trunk/Forrest Program

2005-04-27 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 20:18 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: FS So what is the second one? OK, now I see it. Revoked 165015 as well. Sorry for the mess folks. I hope I've cleaned it up properly. No worries, no harm done. ...and yes you did. :) Sorry I could

Re: [Plugin] PDA or Sidebar output plugin ?

2005-04-27 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 18:07 +0200, Juan Jose Pablos wrote: Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote: Does anyone work on a plugin to generate a simple version of the site (for Mozilla/firefox sidebar or for PDA ?) I do not know if someone is working on it, but it would be nice at least to do some

Re: Why are navigational element are not static when scrolling long pages?

2005-04-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 09:39 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Is there a reason, that the current skin does not keep navigational element (menus and tabs, perhaps search) permanently in sight when I scroll long pages? You mean like http://www.amherst.edu/~jzhu/index2.html? No, there is not. I

Re: [Plugin] PDA or Sidebar output plugin ?

2005-04-29 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Fri, 2005-04-29 at 09:28 +0200, Cyriaque Dupoirieux wrote: Hi, I fully agree with you. Sidebar is browser dependent and is generally made to be automatically and frequently refreshed - just as CNN sidebar does, dispaying the titles of the recent news... I think I started

[plugins] Interface plugins and implementation plugins

2005-04-29 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello devs, I am developing a new viewHelper implementation for inx. That forced me to re-factor some code and to move the current viewHelper to viewHelper.xhtml. I see view as interface plugin for the implementation viewHelper.* (e.g. xhtml|inx). Now I am trying to extract all interface pipes

Re: view/viewHelper XHTML code generation

2005-05-02 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Just a quick reply because I am just coming from the beach and have to tranquilize my sunburn ASAP. ;-) All questions already answered by Ross I will not answer. ;-) On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 22:51 -0700, Diwaker Gupta wrote: Hi everyone, There are a number of small but important problems with

Re: Comment on index.html (Re: Where to change comments to configuration files)

2005-05-03 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 09:49 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: ... I disagree here. It might have been ok to just leave it before we knew about the inconsistencies it will create if you don't use index.html. As far as I am aware the only inconsistency is that the index

[HEADSUP] viewHelper is now viewHelper.xhtml

2005-05-03 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello devs, I am implementing another format for the viewHelper. That forced me to rename the current implementation to viewHelper.xhtml. *You have to* rename the forrest.properties of your projects that are using the view/viewHelper!!! BTW we need to discuss the contracts that we have right

Re: [HEADSUP] viewHelper is now viewHelper.xhtml

2005-05-04 Thread Thorsten Scherler
but this will change to .../templates/{format}/{contract}.ft Sorry for answering so late but I just started in a new company and still have to install/setup my workspace. salu2 Thanks, Diwaker On 5/3/05, Thorsten Scherler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello devs, I am implementing another format

Re: Reverting changes

2005-05-04 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Nice info. :) salu2 On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 23:29 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Recently I asked how I should revert a change in SVN, but no-one here was sure how to do it smoothly. I promised to ask on a more appropriate list, however, this recently appeared on the cocoon dev list: Antonio

Re: Clean up freshsite to be just that

2005-05-11 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 00:55 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: RG Perhaps you could start with RG http://issues.cocoondev.org/browse/FOR-470 RG as this is a blocker for the 0.7 release will try and look at that tomorrow: right now I understand only half of what I'm

Re: [RT] Directory structure and configuration

2005-05-11 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 09:07 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Can you remind us what the thread was about, preferably by summarising the outstanding issues, or if that is too much work by providing a link to the archives. This is the original thread:

[Plugins] cannot build whiteboard plugins.

2005-05-16 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello list, I get: 12:58:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]~/apache/forrest-trunk/whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.output.viewHelper.xhtml$ ant local-deploy Buildfile: build.xml Duplicated project name in import. Project Forrest_Plugins_build_file defined first in

Re: [Plugins] cannot build whiteboard plugins.

2005-05-17 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-05-16 at 21:51 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: I found the revision. Doing svn up r170336 will bring back the version that is working. @Ross did you tested the whiteboard plugins before you checked in the above revision? Any ideas how I can I fix

Re: Solving FOR-470 and getting rid of xdocs now?

2005-05-17 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 12:06 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: I've started looking into FOR-470. Looking at the details, I keep wondering if it wouldn't save us much work to get rid of x-docs and fix FOR-470 in one step. If we don't I'd change all the wording for raw-files to 'xdocs' now just

Re: Self-organized meet-ups / workshops at Apache Con 2005

2005-05-18 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 10:54 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: More or less. ;-) If I should explain a wee bit the plugin basics I used for the view package then I guess +1 hour would be fine. Better make it two then (You'll need one hour just to answer all my

Re: [Fwd: Re: Apache Lenya User Manual (spanish)]

2005-05-19 Thread Thorsten Scherler
for you guys, or you want me to look about how to implemented with lenya. I will come back to this offer if I am running into problems. Cheers, cheche a ti killo. gracias salu2 Thorsten Scherler wrote: Cheche can you help? ...or better asked how can I help *you* to use full i18n

Re: BOF for Forrest

2005-05-19 Thread Thorsten Scherler
is to not really helpful in answering questions and helping (unless so many other conferences I attended). salu2 On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 10:29 +0200, Thorsten Scherler wrote: Hello everybody, I would like whether we, the forrest community, can apply for a Birds-of-a-Feather session on the ApacheCon EU 05

Re: BOF for Forrest

2005-05-19 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 15:06 +0200, Lars Eilebrecht wrote: According to Thorsten: I have to admit that I am *really* disappointed about the communication of the conference planer and the whole organization of this conference. I personally have send three mails (other threads) before to

Re: BOF for Forrest

2005-05-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Fri, 2005-05-20 at 10:42 +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Ben Laurie wrote: ... Cocoon wanted an extra day on the hackathon - unfortunately, the venue isn't ours for an extra day, so I couldn't do that. If lots of people wanted an extra day, then I'd happily organise an alternate

[RT] businessHelper (was Re: Auto generating site.xml)

2005-05-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Actually it sounds that parts of the businessHelper-plugin can be found in the auto generating site.xml proposal. The goal of the businessHelper-concept is to offer a framework to access different businessServices in a generic way. The businessHelper would be responsible to connect to a

Re: BOF for Forrest

2005-05-21 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sat, 2005-05-21 at 11:39 +1000, David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: cocoon/forrest- hackaton Torsten Curdt has a room and passed my details to a possible sponsor for a room. He wants to know how many people want

Re: New Plugin: Filtering output

2005-05-22 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-05-22 at 12:59 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Working on our presentation for ApacheCon, Ross and I have the problem that the presentation contains a lot of internal info and also some that should only be part of someversions (speaker version, slide

Re: Meetup at ApacheCon?

2005-05-23 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 21:46 +1000, David Crossley wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Well perhaps we can organize something on our own. I'd certainly be interested ... Why else is planning on coming and when

Fussy feelings about 0.7

2005-05-25 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello all, as more mails I read (mainly from Ross and David) as more I get a fussy feelings in my stomach about the 0.7. Sure we want to get the 0.7 out the door but it seems there are some *big* bugs that need solutions. On the other hand this solutions will be changed again in 0.8. IMO we

Re: Locationmaps and Lenya integration

2005-05-25 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-05-25 at 19:51 -0400, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: I'm going to come back to this after we have submitted the Apachecon presentation. I'd like to see how Thorstens work integrates with locationmap as that is the next thing I need in Forrest. It makes using

Re: Locationmaps and Lenya integration

2005-05-27 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 18:20 -0400, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: I do not like this expression 'programming in xml' it is more (like I stated in other threads) 'configuring components with xml'. the crucial question will be where to draw the boundaries. I agree

[Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language)

2005-05-29 Thread Thorsten Scherler
I really thought whether or not to answer this thread. On Fri, 2005-05-27 at 11:39 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 18:20 -0400, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: ... are you suggesting that it is easier to learn and use a DSL than to use java? i don't

Re: [JIRA] Closed: (FOR-508) available-skins command returns incorrect information

2005-05-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 01:45 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: The following issue has been closed. Resolver: David Crossley Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 1:44 AM ... * removed leather-dev because it has evolved to form the basis of the views plugin. Yeah, that is right,

Re: [OT] Come on Preston!!! (Re: [Proposal] remove views from forrest (Re: Views as a Domain Specific Language))

2005-05-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-05-30 at 10:04 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Sun, 2005-05-29 at 21:33 -0500, Antonio Gallardo wrote: On Dom, 29 de Mayo de 2005, 21:15, David Crossley dijo: Well said Ross, you express yourself well even when drunk. +1 Perhaps we need to send

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