Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-25 Thread François
I don't want to feed the troll, but after having read http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html#Name-changes it sounds to me like the problem that made debian turn the name of firefox into iceweasel and their logo into whatever it is supposed to be (See the 4th section of

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-19 Thread Steffen
PROTECTED] To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Sunday, 19 August, 2007 03:46 Subject: Re: Apachelounge problems William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: doesn't belong on any external site. Since it's not an ASF release, *you* are absorbing all the liability and risk that any released ASF package would carry. It's

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-19 Thread Rainer Jung
Hello Steffen, I'm a Tomcat committer but not part of the httpd project. Nevertheless as all projects we also need to control, how release candidates get distributed. On the one hand we want a lot of testers to participate, on the other hand we need to unambiguously tell people downloading the

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-19 Thread Steffen
zlib-1.2.3 : -- - Original Message - From: Rainer Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Sunday, 19 August, 2007 11:38 Subject: Re: Apachelounge problems Hello Steffen, I'm a Tomcat committer but not part of the httpd project. Nevertheless as all

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-19 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 05:09:08PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Hmmm... seems that - even though we've *repeated* this multiple times, we have to state this again. Contents of http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ are *development* tarballs and not for any distribution. It's called dist,

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-19 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 06:31:01PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: * does it correspond to the tag? * is it correctly licensed? * is it correctly packaged? * are any additions that appear to have IP encumbrances? * does it build? * does it run? * does it pass the perl-framework

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-19 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 09:46:50PM -0400, Tom Donovan wrote: Maybe not threatening - but it is an eye-opener for some of us that the Apache2 license protects released versions of Apache differently. It doesn't. My (possibly faulty) understanding was that the whole Redistribution and

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-19 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Aug 18, 2007, at 8:00 PM, Issac Goldstand wrote: Steffen, I really don't see anything threatening by what Bill said. On the contrary, he very openly said that there's nothing illegal about releasing an RC; the way I read it, the potential problems are coming from endusers who might use a

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-19 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Aug 19, 2007, at 7:08 AM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 09:46:50PM -0400, Tom Donovan wrote: Maybe not threatening - but it is an eye-opener for some of us that the Apache2 license protects released versions of Apache differently. It doesn't. My (possibly faulty)

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-19 Thread Jim Jagielski
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: Like I said, as long as ApacheLounge makes clear that the versions it carries are not ASF releases, it's certainly permitted by the license and not the least bit out of the ordinary. That's the point, isn't it?? --

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-19 Thread Joe Schaefer
Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 05:09:08PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Hmmm... seems that - even though we've *repeated* this multiple times, we have to state this again. Contents of http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ are *development* tarballs and

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-19 Thread Jim Jagielski
Joe Schaefer wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 05:09:08PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Hmmm... seems that - even though we've *repeated* this multiple times, we have to state this again. Contents of http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ are

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-19 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 12:16:03PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: Like I said, as long as ApacheLounge makes clear that the versions it carries are not ASF releases, it's certainly permitted by the license and not the least bit out of the ordinary. That's the

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-19 Thread Jim Jagielski
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 12:16:03PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: Like I said, as long as ApacheLounge makes clear that the versions it carries are not ASF releases, it's certainly permitted by the license and not the least bit out of

Apachelounge problems

2007-08-18 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Hmmm... seems that - even though we've *repeated* this multiple times, we have to state this again. Contents of http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ are *development* tarballs and not for any distribution. None of our many other distributors seem to have problems with this concept, I hope

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-18 Thread Steffen
mailfolder is full. Steffen - Original Message - From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Sunday, 19 August, 2007 00:09 Subject: Apachelounge problems Hmmm... seems that - even though we've *repeated* this multiple

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-18 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Steffen wrote: This is a big booom for me and some fellow webmasters. And is disappointing me, special the style you are using. This style gives me the impression that ASF is not happy with Apache Lounge. Even I tried to promote Apache in the Windows world. I think what you've done for

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-18 Thread Steffen
Thanks for the answer. I shall keep the site down, I am very disappointed and I feel threatened by you for legal stuff. Steffen - Original Message - From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Sunday, 19 August, 2007 01:31 Subject: Re: Apachelounge

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-18 Thread Issac Goldstand
. I shall keep the site down, I am very disappointed and I feel threatened by you for legal stuff. Steffen - Original Message - From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dev@httpd.apache.org Sent: Sunday, 19 August, 2007 01:31 Subject: Re: Apachelounge problems

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-18 Thread Tom Donovan
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: doesn't belong on any external site. Since it's not an ASF release, *you* are absorbing all the liability and risk that any released ASF package would carry. It's an apachelounge release, so you would personally answer to any IP issues. Not smart. Issac

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-18 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Tom Donovan wrote: Maybe not threatening - but it is an eye-opener for some of us that the Apache2 license protects released versions of Apache differently. First, I hope I was not threatening. As I said, my appologies if it came across that way, I'm not feeling up to par. That said, IANAL

Re: Apachelounge problems

2007-08-18 Thread Davi Arnaut
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Hmmm... seems that - even though we've *repeated* this multiple times, we have to state this again. Contents of http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ are *development* tarballs and not for any distribution. Just out of curiosity, why don't we name the tarballs as such?