Reverting my vote [was: Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate]

2006-04-24 Thread Sander Temme
On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:34 PM, Sander Temme wrote: +1 for release on Ubuntu/x86, FreeBSD 6-STABLE/x86, Darwin/PPC. Sorry, I think we should re-roll with the reverted copyright statements. Since the code is the same and no one reported any technical problems, the new vote should be pretty

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-22 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:31:25PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Appears to be Colm's choice of 1. nothing extra, 2. revert date changes/reroll, or 3. revert date changes (w/ any other changes he wishes), bump and reroll. That's my preference, in descending order, but support whichever

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-22 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: My preference is similar, I'd prefer to ship 2.0.57 as it is now rather than either confuse the whole process by introducing another candidate. So, unless people revert their votes for release, we can release the present candidate very shortly after 2.2.2. Something

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Jagielski
Passes perl test framework and others on: Sol8/Sparc, OS X 10.4.6, Suse 9.2, Suse 10.0 +1 On Apr 19, 2006, at 12:59 PM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: Candidate tarballs for 2.0.57 are now available for testing/voting at; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ This doesn't include a

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Plüm , Rüdiger , VF EITO
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Plüm, Rüdiger, Also +1 (compiled and started) on Solaris 8, gcc 3.3.2 Solaris 9, gcc 3.3.2 Forgot to mention: Both Solaris SPARC Regards Rüdiger

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Steffen
Like in 2.0.55 it builds not mod_deflate with zlib 1.2.3 , its complaining that some files are not found, like srclib\zlib\infblock.h , srclib\zlib\infcodes.h, srclib\zlib\infutil.h. There is a patch for mod_deflate 2.053 at http://smithii.com/files/httpd-2.0.54_zlib-1.2.2.patch (did not tried

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Brad Nicholes
On 4/19/2006 at 10:59:48 am, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Candidate tarballs for 2.0.57 are now available for testing/voting at; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ This doesn't include a changed notice-of-license text though, which is a

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 4/19/06, Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Candidate tarballs for 2.0.57 are now available for testing/voting at; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ This doesn't include a changed notice-of-license text though, which is a potential open issue. I'm -1 due to the copyright

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Jagielski
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 4/19/06, Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Candidate tarballs for 2.0.57 are now available for testing/voting at; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ This doesn't include a changed notice-of-license text though, which is a potential open

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:21:18AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I'm -1 due to the copyright notice changes. A bunch of files magically added years to copyright notices (i.e. from -2004 to -2006) when those files didn't actually substantively change during that period. That's a no-no. We

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Sander Temme
On Apr 21, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: Let's just add Jackrabbit's disclaimer and be done with the whole year thing forever. The best thing of course would be to not have done anything at all (g); but that train left the station when all of those commits got made

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 4/21/06, Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We know that now, but those commits went through before it became so clear that our previous practise was so wrong. The entire email exchange happened while the US West Coasters were asleep. I sent an email saying, Don't do that as soon as

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 4/21/06, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, this is hardly the first time we've done that... Yes, it's been awhile since we made those unilateral changes, but by the above standards, what we had even before wasn't really correct, since those had changed copyrights on files

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 4/19/06, Colm MacCarthaigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Candidate tarballs for 2.0.57 are now available for testing/voting at; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ This doesn't include a changed notice-of-license text though, which is a potential open issue. I'm

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:39:12PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I don't concur with Colm, the tarball is the release and changing the legal text is more significant, perhaps, than even the code itself. So it's yet another bump that strikes me as silly. Just to be clear, I didn't mean it

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: It matters that we've now said on a public list that we know the notices are incorrect. Before, we actually believed that those changes were right. That's a huge difference. -- justin You've said so. Roy's said so. Colm said it's irrelevant. I've seen no

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 4/21/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How is this a showstopper? As has been pointed out, your comments are late to the table, and this certainly isn't a change in existing practice, and most certainly doesn't invalidate the (initial and appropriate) copyrights. Bah. I

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Jagielski
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 4/21/06, Jim Jagielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, this is hardly the first time we've done that... Yes, it's been awhile since we made those unilateral changes, but by the above standards, what we had even before wasn't really correct, since those had

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 12:51:19PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: It matters that we've now said on a public list that we know the notices are incorrect. Before, we actually believed that those changes were right. That's a huge difference. -- justin You've

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Jagielski
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: So, I think our real options are; 's/-//' and simply delete the latter year entirely. This is minimal change, but assumes that I actually have a clue here and get what the legal issue is. And this hasn't been approved by ASF

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jim Jagielski wrote: So does this mean that no ASF project can release any code until we get this resolved *and* that they all incorporate those changes to fix the copyright notice changes? I'm not being a pain, I'm really curious. If so, then that's a major thing and (1) we better be fully

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 4/21/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really have no problem if Cliff posts to the list telling us It is not necessary to update copyright dates - and if he does that, we will revert before rolling 2.2.0.

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Jim Jagielski wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: Migrate to the jackrabbit notice, because at least it has been approved and we judge the inconvience of seemingly slightly adversarial to users less bad than the inconvience of having less credibility in legal matters. If the

License text in source files [Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate]

2006-04-21 Thread Sander Temme
On Apr 21, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: We can not make statements in the code that we know to be inaccurate. Once you decided to open this can of worms, we must resolve it before publishing a release. -- justin So, basically, we're dead in the water until we develop and

Copyright Dates (Was: Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate)

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Jagielski
As I read it, yes it appears that even just changing the last date does not make sense. For example assuming a valid 1999-2004 and the file is updated in 2006, 1999-2006 would not be correct, if I understand it, but instead 1999-2004,2006 would be more correct... I think :) In any case, I

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 4/21/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really have no problem if Cliff posts to the list telling us It is not necessary to update copyright dates - and if he does that, we will revert before rolling 2.2.0. Feel free to read the whole thread. It

Re: Copyright Dates (Was: Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate)

2006-04-21 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 4/21/06, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are correct. Only the years in which the file was actually changed should be listed in the copyright. If we want to get pedantic, it should only be year of first publication. ;-) For reference, here's Larry Rosen's post to legal-discuss@

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 4/21/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right that we don't update *all* the copyrights, nobody debated that. We had a simple (too simple) search of touched files to refresh copyright, and I have no issue if we should undo that and selectively update copyrights on

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 01:46:21PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: which is all well and good, but doesn't assert copyrights. And that's fine, there is no need to assert a copyright :) I'm really completely unclear how this protects the files we author, the files authored by others (which

Re: Copyright Dates (Was: Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate)

2006-04-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 4/21/06, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are correct. Only the years in which the file was actually changed should be listed in the copyright. If we want to get pedantic, it should only be year of first publication. ;-) Yes. What is publication?

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 4/21/06, William A. Rowe, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are right that we don't update *all* the copyrights, nobody debated that. We had a simple (too simple) search of touched files to refresh copyright, and I have no issue if we should undo that and selectively

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread Roy T. Fielding
On Apr 21, 2006, at 10:39 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: -1 to adopting Jackrabbits' license until Roy's (very reasonable) nit on the language is addressed. -1 to removing copyright until we have an absolute, documented policy from ASF legal. I'm glad you and Roy feel entirely assured

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-21 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Roy T. Fielding wrote: On Apr 21, 2006, at 10:39 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: For the sanity of all the rest of us project members, let us please work from documented policy though, can we? And feh - let's just have done with this tarball release and revisit once policy is *set*. FTR,

AW: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-20 Thread Plüm , Rüdiger , VF EITO
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Colm MacCarthaigh Candidate tarballs for 2.0.57 are now available for testing/voting at; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ This doesn't include a changed notice-of-license text though, which is a potential open issue. Compiled and

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-20 Thread Plüm , Rüdiger , VF EITO
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Colm MacCarthaigh Candidate tarballs for 2.0.57 are now available for testing/voting at; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ This doesn't include a changed notice-of-license text though, which is a potential open issue. Also +1

Re: [VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-20 Thread Sander Temme
On Apr 19, 2006, at 9:59 AM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: Candidate tarballs for 2.0.57 are now available for testing/voting at; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ This doesn't include a changed notice-of-license text though, which is a potential open issue. Linux sarlacc

[VOTE] 2.0.57 candidate

2006-04-19 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
Candidate tarballs for 2.0.57 are now available for testing/voting at; http://httpd.apache.org/dev/dist/ This doesn't include a changed notice-of-license text though, which is a potential open issue. -- Colm MacCárthaighPublic Key: [EMAIL PROTECTED]