Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-09 Thread Rainer Jung
On 08.01.2013 17:09, Jim Jagielski wrote: Rainer, does the below address your concern and make it OK that the current behavior acts the way it does and we're OK to keep it that way. Yes sort of. We now know/remember why there are subtleties and since some statistical counters are dual purpose

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Jagielski
That seems to be an issue w/ slotmem... looking into it. On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Rainer Jung rainer.j...@kippdata.de wrote: On 08.01.2013 17:09, Jim Jagielski wrote: Rainer, does the below address your concern and make it OK that the current behavior acts the way it does and we're OK to

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Jagielski
Fixed in r1430821 On Jan 9, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: That seems to be an issue w/ slotmem... looking into it. On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Rainer Jung rainer.j...@kippdata.de wrote: On 08.01.2013 17:09, Jim Jagielski wrote: Rainer, does the below address

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-09 Thread Jim Jagielski
Ooops 1430869 On Jan 9, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Fixed in r1430821 On Jan 9, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: That seems to be an issue w/ slotmem... looking into it. On Jan 9, 2013, at 7:26 AM, Rainer Jung rainer.j...@kippdata.de

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-08 Thread Jim Jagielski
re: increased performance. True enough, but we should also be aware that the vast majority of people are still running 2.2.x and that httpd is still seen as a slow, bloated monster compared to nginx, which is gradually being seen as the web-server for the web. On Jan 7, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Stefan

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-08 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1 for both being reset... On Jan 7, 2013, at 4:40 AM, Rainer Jung rainer.j...@kippdata.de wrote: On 06.01.2013 17:48, Jim Jagielski wrote: I had thought that I has responded to that orig email that both below issues where by design but could be adjusted if need be or desired. I have no

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-08 Thread Jim Jagielski
Hold on a tic... let me go thru my notes. I seem to recall an issue I hit. On Jan 8, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: +1 for both being reset... On Jan 7, 2013, at 4:40 AM, Rainer Jung rainer.j...@kippdata.de wrote: On 06.01.2013 17:48, Jim Jagielski wrote: I had

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-08 Thread Jim Jagielski
Yeppers... actually, transferred and read *are* persisted, it's just that the bytraffic lbmethod is smart enough to know that when the config is changed, those counters need to be reset and, by default, a restart is a change. Since elected is never used for any sort of lbmethod, it never is reset

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-08 Thread Jim Jagielski
Rainer, does the below address your concern and make it OK that the current behavior acts the way it does and we're OK to keep it that way. On Jan 8, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Jim Jagielski j...@jagunet.com wrote: Yeppers... actually, transferred and read *are* persisted, it's just that the

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-07 Thread Rainer Jung
On 06.01.2013 17:48, Jim Jagielski wrote: I had thought that I has responded to that orig email that both below issues where by design but could be adjusted if need be or desired. I have no opinions either way, but to be Used seems more session based and Elected is more long-term

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-07 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Sunday 06 January 2013, Jim Jagielski wrote: We could, but it's not my personal pref as RM... After all, ApacheCon will be here before we know it :/ That's probably true ;) FWIW, I see the this dynamic nature of 2.4 as much as a killer feature as the increased performance as related to

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-06 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Sat, 5 Jan 2013, Jim Jagielski wrote: I haven't created the patch yet... it seems backwards to generate a backport patchset unless what is currently in trunk is OK. There were some suggestions for improvement made regarding the 2.4 backport that ideally would have been noted and addressed in

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-06 Thread Jim Jagielski
I had thought that I has responded to that orig email that both below issues where by design but could be adjusted if need be or desired. I have no opinions either way, but to be Used seems more session based and Elected is more long-term statistical. On Jan 5, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Rainer Jung

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-06 Thread Jim Jagielski
We could, but it's not my personal pref as RM... After all, ApacheCon will be here before we know it :/ FWIW, I see the this dynamic nature of 2.4 as much as a killer feature as the increased performance as related to comparisons between httpd and other web-servers out there, including the

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-05 Thread Jim Jagielski
I haven't created the patch yet... it seems backwards to generate a backport patchset unless what is currently in trunk is OK. There were some suggestions for improvement made regarding the 2.4 backport that ideally would have been noted and addressed in trunk first. I just want to avoid another

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-05 Thread Mikhail T.
On 05.01.2013 10:30, Jim Jagielski wrote: I haven't created the patch yet... it seems backwards to generate a backport patchset unless what is currently in trunk is OK. I can drop in a patch into our 2.4.3 build relatively easily. Building (and testing) from trunk is a more serious undertaking.

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-05 Thread Rainer Jung
On 04.01.2013 19:48, Jim Jagielski wrote: Have people had a chance to test, review and try the balancer persist and inheritance stuff in trunk? I want to make sure that we have some level of verification and agreement there before I work on the backports for 2.4 ;) I didn't see any changes

Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-04 Thread Jim Jagielski
Have people had a chance to test, review and try the balancer persist and inheritance stuff in trunk? I want to make sure that we have some level of verification and agreement there before I work on the backports for 2.4 ;)

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-04 Thread jim
On 04.01.2013 13:48, Jim Jagielski wrote: Have people had a chance to test, review and try the balancer persist and inheritance stuff in trunk? I want to make sure that we have some level of verification and agreement there before I work on the backports for 2.4;) Could you give the link to the

Re: Balancer persist and inherit stuff in trunk

2013-01-04 Thread Mikhail T.
Sorry -- I meant to send the below just to Jim, but messed-up the headers in Thunderbird -- and it ended up looking, as if Jim wrote it :( On 04.01.2013 14:06, j...@jagunet.com wrote: On 04.01.2013 13:48, Jim Jagielski wrote: Have people had a chance to test, review and try the balancer