Re: [l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-07 Thread Frank Peters
Martin, Apparently, those changes came in by error. So we need to evaluate how that happened and how it can be prevented in the future. Accusing co-contributors of being malicious or inconsiderate will certainly not facilitate this effort. So, please, (and I am minding my tone), who did these

Re: [l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-07 Thread Ain Vagula
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 11:52, Frank Petersf...@sun.com wrote: Martin, Apparently, those changes came in by error. So we need to evaluate how that happened and how it can be prevented in the future. Accusing co-contributors of being malicious or inconsiderate will certainly not facilitate

Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-07 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
2009/9/7 Frank Peters f...@sun.com: Specifically, getting rid of the 6-blanks strings in the CWS should be easy, assuming that there are no legitimate instances of such a thing. Any such validation must be based on rules, we need to define so we do not by accident fix bugs that are no bugs.

Re: [l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-07 Thread Andre Schnabel
Hi Martin, first: thanks for bringing the issue to the list - I share your opinion, that these really hurt translators. But a small side note ... Original-Nachricht An: dev@l10n.openoffice.org ... Just a small regression from a translator's perspective. When you stumble

Re: [l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-07 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Frank, 2009/9/7 Frank Peters f...@sun.com: So, please, (and I am minding my tone), who did these changes? Who is In what way do persons matter here? Well, up until now this did not happen. Actually I do remember some sporadic errors like added 6-blanks in the past year, maybe 5 of them in

Re: [l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-07 Thread Frank Peters
Martin, 2009/9/7 Frank Peters f...@sun.com: So, please, (and I am minding my tone), who did these changes? Who is In what way do persons matter here? Well, up until now this did not happen. Actually I do remember some sporadic errors like added 6-blanks in the past year, maybe 5 of them in

Re: [l10n-dev] Re: [documentation-dev] Re: [l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-07 Thread Frank Peters
Martin Srebotnjak wrote: 2009/9/7 Frank Peters f...@sun.com: Specifically, getting rid of the 6-blanks strings in the CWS should be easy, assuming that there are no legitimate instances of such a thing. Any such validation must be based on rules, we need to define so we do not by accident fix

Re: [l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-07 Thread Frank Peters
Martin Srebotnjak wrote: This puzzles me and adds another type of error or unnecessary changes m57 introduced. Namely, changes in m57 include also (regarding to m56): From: image id=\img_id7261268\ src=\res/helpimg/border_ca_5.png\ width=\1.1354inch\ height=\0.25inch\alt

[l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-06 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Hello, I am new to this list (I am the lead translator of OOo into Slovenian language), I hope I am posting to the right group. I am currently very pissed off so I did not bother checking if someone alredy asked this question. And taking in a breath or two will not help calming me down. So, here

Re: [l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-06 Thread Ain Vagula
And that is not all... in m57: paveljanik there are zillions of TAB changes =9 paveljanik :-( paveljanik image/icon changes :-( ain On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 17:58, Martin Srebotnjakmi...@filmsi.net wrote: Hello, I am new to this list (I am the lead translator of OOo into Slovenian language),

Re: [l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-06 Thread Frank Peters
Martin Srebotnjak schrieb: I am new to this list (I am the lead translator of OOo into Slovenian language), I hope I am posting to the right group. in future you should copy d...@documentation.oo.o as well on documentation issues. I am currently very pissed off so I did not bother checking

Re: [l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-06 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
Not to mention updated strings like: Click item type=\menuitem\Find/item emph/oremph/ item type=\menuitem\Find All/item. or Choose item type=\menuitem\Format - Page/item emph/and select the item type=\menuitem\Header/item emph/or item type=\menuitem\Footer/item emph/tab. I wonder

Re: [l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-06 Thread Martin Srebotnjak
2009/9/6 Frank Peters f...@sun.com je nakracal: This and other lists are not for venting. While I understand your frustration, it would be better to shout at your room mate if you want to vent. Mind your imagination, please. Mind your tone, please. Apparently, those changes came in by

Re: [l10n-dev] Massive English help stampedo

2009-09-06 Thread Ain Vagula
updating to m57 added about 2000 fuzzy strings to help :( a lot of image/icon string changes. Is this all really necessary? Can these actions to be reverted? I can return my own translation cvs repository to any healthy point, but what to do with people/languages who have already translated this