procedural language?
Maybe it should be in A procedural language... I was referring to CF.
Paul
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Just been taking a look at
does it realy fit into that category? it is a true procedural language? I
would say its way more of a hybrid now
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procedural
does it realy fit into that category? it is a true procedural
language? I would say its way more of a hybrid now
:D Fair enough on CFMX, but with CF5 (the version referred to in the email)
it's very much a procedural language with knobs on.
Paul
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Going on this MVC stuffwhere are some good resources? I know there is
all the Fusebox stuff (dont get Simon started ;-)...
N
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Going on this MVC stuffwhere are some good resources? I
know there is all the Fusebox stuff (dont get Simon started ;-)...
For those of you who don't know:
MVC: Model-View-Controller
There are 2 versions, model 1 and model 2. Model 2 is most widely used (in
Web Apps) within the Java
Going on this MVC stuffwhere are some good resources? I
know there is all the Fusebox stuff (dont get Simon started ;-)...
You can make an MVC fusebox app (although it's not particularly good to do
that imho because fusebox definitely IS procedural) but I wouldn't put
fusebox in an MVC
So my question is, is it important to implement listeners? For web only,
then I'm thinking no, but if you are creating views for Java, Web Services,
Flash, then does a listener need to be implemented, and if so how?
CFDJ has quite a number of articles by Hal Helms I thinkon MVC in its
archives.
BTW - there's an article coming out in the upcominging CFDJ all about
architecting Flash Apps... the author is an old-school java developer who
now codes exclusively in Flash and uses MVC and listeners a lot!
~Simon
Simon Horwith
CTO, Etrilogy Ltd.
Member of Team Macromedia
Macromedia Certified
Ok everyone, for junior developers like meself, can you explain what a
listener is etc?
Sounds interesting but flying over my head at the moment...
;0)
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Hi name?
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BTW - there's an article coming out in the upcominging CFDJ all about
architecting Flash Apps... the author is an old-school
For your webapp, you could consider:
M = model = Database tier and CFCs (I am not sure what replacement you could
use in CF5...Custom Tags? CFX?)
V = View = CFML pages with no logic in them whatsoever, everything in tags
and CFCs
C = Control = The control should really just
Ok everyone, for junior developers like meself, can you
explain what a listener is etc?
Sounds interesting but flying over my head at the moment...
:D Fair enough! It's complicated talking in terms of Java/Flash and other
things when most people on this list haven't had much experience of
Neil,
M = model = Database tier and CFCs (I am not sure what
replacement you could use in CF5...Custom Tags? CFX?) V =
View = CFML pages with no logic in them whatsoever,
everything in tags
and CFCs
C = Control = The control should really just be the bit
of your app
Yep, if you were a sophisticated CF and Flash developer(which I`m not) I
guess
you would be thinking the whole project in terms of the MVC controller
approach
and breaking both Flash and CF into a presentation layers first, developing
that first,
then your handlers say menu buttons/links/dynamic
Does anybody have any links to explain the basic concepts/theories behind
MVC - I am not familiar with it at all but am interested to learn?
___
* Regards,
Richard Lovelock
Westminster City Council - Web Support
Cap Gemini
Yep, if you were a sophisticated CF and Flash developer(which
I`m not) I guess you would be thinking the whole project in
terms of the MVC controller approach and breaking both Flash
and CF into a presentation layers first, developing that
first, then your handlers say menu
Does anybody have any links to explain the basic
concepts/theories behind MVC - I am not familiar with it at
all but am interested to learn?
Ok.. Bear in mind I've done Java so a lot of these will be java based
(although some are C# and other OO languages):
Yup, makes sense, thanks!
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Ok everyone, for junior developers like meself, can you
explain what a listener is etc?
Sounds
I have a word counter JS script which is counting words in a form field and
I think I have a problem with (uurgh) my RegEx... ;-) I want to ensure that
when a user enters say That's all folks that the function actually counts
that as 3 words. At the moment, its counting it as over 3.Am I
Erm...
Have you added the ' as part of the word regex?
Paul
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I have a word counter JS script which is counting
Hi,
I've been asked to build a site for someone that will basically operate as a
shared drive for users across the internet. The client wants there to be
editable word docs on the site but only editable to users with certain
access priveleges, basic users will have read only rights.
Any pointers
I need a beer...
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Erm...
Have you added the ' as part of the word regex?
Paul
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From: Robertson-Ravo,
Anyone know how to get the height/width of a table using javascript?
I want to resize the pop up window to the size of the table which hold dynamic content.
Thanks
Allan
You can put the table in a DIV and specify a height and width for the
DIV using a style, then mak ethe table 100% height and width.
Then you can get the height and width of the div.
Hth
Russ Michaels
Macromedia/Allaire Certified ColdFusion Developer
Satachi Internet Development
Phone: 0870
Well all you need to do is set a permission for the users in your
database.
If they do not have write permission then do not allow them to edit the
document in soeditor
E.g
User has a list of their permissions stored in a session variable.
Session.permissions = read,write,edit
So you can then
Do you have another machine with DWMX on? if so, just copy that file to
your config and you should be good to go...failing that, your menu.xml may
be corrupt. DW should provide a backup with every extension install so just
go grab it and restore.
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From: Snake
keep in mind that listeners respond to events. In the traditional sense,
this is applied mostly to UI applications - as there are tons of events
triggered by use of a user interface. That's not to say that there isn't a
concept of system events... but these aren't as applicable to CFML apps.
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