Re: Cleaning out @deprecated methods in MavenSession

2014-01-05 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Saturday, 4 January 2014, Jason van Zyl wrote: On Jan 4, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote: Doing so would make the next version 4.0 and not 3.2 I don't mind if we want to do that, but we were supposed to be pushing a 3.2 out at

Re: Cleaning out @deprecated methods in MavenSession

2014-01-05 Thread Tamás Cservenák
As i mentioned in referenced thread, i would really like to see maven at java7. We talk about release to happen in near future, that would be used in a bit further future by users, but even _today_ there is no other java than 7 that is not eol-d. For those locked in, there are still 3.0, 3.1

Re: Cleaning out @deprecated methods in MavenSession

2014-01-05 Thread Tamás Cservenák
I missed jvz's question: yes for removal of deprecations eagerly. If anything, we should start doing that eagerly (4 years?), and declare this step as transitioning one toward 4.0? thanks, ~t~ (mobile) On Jan 5, 2014 11:29 AM, Tamás Cservenák ta...@cservenak.net wrote: As i mentioned in

Re: Cleaning out @deprecated methods in MavenSession

2014-01-05 Thread Stephen Connolly
My PoV is that once Java 8 is released we drop support for running on Java 6 (keep support for compiling with a Java 6 JDK via toolchains) We should be one and one back with regards to the runtime JVM maven requires. But to get there I'd like to see a JDK 6 min release first, gauge how the

Re: Cleaning out @deprecated methods in MavenSession

2014-01-05 Thread Stephen Connolly
I guess my question is, why have we still not cut 3.2... If the answer is just nobody has bothered, then I'd be happy to give a spin through it... If the answer is bugs needing a fixing then let's get those out of the way and spin that release already... Then we can have a clear run at 4.0 with

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven JarSigner 1.3.1 and Apache Maven Jarsigner plugin 1.3.1

2014-01-05 Thread Olivier Lamy
+1 On 4 January 2014 07:42, Tony Chemit che...@codelutin.com wrote: Hi, Shame on me, I copy-paste a code and add a typo just after it :(. Maven shared JarSigner 1.3.1 The version 1.3.1 just fix an important bug while unsigning jar (ok it was exactly the goal

Re: Cleaning out @deprecated methods in MavenSession

2014-01-05 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
I think we should remove any deprecations that do not break trunk of maven-plugins and mojo-trunk, and call it 3.2; at least do this as an initial move. Then we can determine the scope of /use/ of deprecations. I am very skeptical to removing stuff wholesale just because we deprecated it 4 years

Re: Cleaning out @deprecated methods in MavenSession

2014-01-05 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Jan 5, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: I guess my question is, why have we still not cut 3.2... If the answer is just nobody has bothered, then I'd be happy to give a spin through it... Release it why? Simply because of 1.6? I don't think that's a

Re: Cleaning out @deprecated methods in MavenSession

2014-01-05 Thread Jason van Zyl
In general for deprecated code that's in the year or so old range I think that strategy is fine. We just haven't been very good removing stuff. In the case of this code it's had the deprecated warning for a long time and if it's removed and it breaks code then that code needs to change IMO. If

Re: Cleaning out @deprecated methods in MavenSession

2014-01-05 Thread Kristian Rosenvold
I just see little point in pissing off users with extensive breakage if we have simple means of assessing the consequences before we do it. Deprecations come in all sorts, some turn out to be like the new style configuration for the site plugin; where exposure to the wild revealed that the old

Re: Cleaning out @deprecated methods in MavenSession

2014-01-05 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Jan 5, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Kristian Rosenvold kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com wrote: I just see little point in pissing off users with extensive breakage if we have simple means of assessing the consequences before we do it. I'm not disagreeing with you about running what we have and knowing

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven JarSigner 1.3.1 and Apache Maven Jarsigner plugin 1.3.1

2014-01-05 Thread Hervé BOUTEMY
I updated unit tests to avoid future regressions +1 Regards, Hervé Le vendredi 3 janvier 2014 21:42:14 Tony Chemit a écrit : Hi, Shame on me, I copy-paste a code and add a typo just after it :(. Maven shared JarSigner 1.3.1 The version 1.3.1 just fix an

Re: New site content

2014-01-05 Thread Ron Wheeler
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Tutorial%3A+Maven+in+60+seconds Still think that it is overly vague. It would be easier to understand if the passive voice was eliminated. Makes it clearer to understand what the developer has to do and what maven is going to do while

Re: New site content

2014-01-05 Thread Adam Retter
It might be clearer to annotate the diagram, rather than have a separate key table. On 3 January 2014 14:41, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: Just in case it wasn't clear... I'm looking for comments and feedback On 3 January 2014 14:35, Stephen Connolly

Re: New logo?

2014-01-05 Thread Adam Retter
Okay, so I bit the bullet and tried it. I based my examples on a Creative Commons image, but it should be fine as long as it is attributed. http://www.flickr.com/photos/dr_scott/4463167753/sizes/l/ http://static.adamretter.org.uk/maven-logo-example1.png and

Re: New logo?

2014-01-05 Thread Adam Retter
I would love to, but I posses absolutely zero artistic skill. On 2 January 2014 16:28, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: how about you try sketching out what you mean! On 2 January 2014 16:18, Adam Retter adam.ret...@googlemail.com wrote: I like that one best

Re: New logo?

2014-01-05 Thread Adam Retter
I like that one best personally. How about something like the Albanian coat of arms? On 2 January 2014 15:11, Stephen Connolly stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com wrote: http://people.apache.org/~stephenc/maven-logo-contest/maven-15.png On 2 January 2014 14:52, Lyons, Roy roy.ly...@cmegroup.com

Re: New logo?

2014-01-05 Thread Tim Pizey
I think that the associations of a raven are too dark also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBmExt184vc The moose and beaver are also laden. Maybe this is why Maven has been logo free for so long? Feels really weird to add a logo to a 13? year old project. cheers Timp On 2 January 2014 15:48,

Re: New logo?

2014-01-05 Thread Jason van Zyl
On Jan 2, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Tim Pizey t...@paneris.org wrote: I think that the associations of a raven are too dark also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBmExt184vc The moose and beaver are also laden. Maybe this is why Maven has been logo free for so long? Feels really weird to add a