Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-15 Thread Andreas Peters
Sounds good, thanks Vinod. :-) Andreas Am 15.04.21 um 00:49 schrieb Vinod Kone: > To circle back here, the vote to install a new PMC chair has passed and the > request for the same is sent to the ASF Board. It will become official once > the board meets and passes the resolution. I am expecting

Re: [BULK]Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-15 Thread Thomas Langé
Thanks for the update and this good news Vinod! Thomas From: Vinod Kone Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2021 00:49 To: Andreas Peters Cc: dev Subject: [BULK]Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic To circle back here, the vote to install a new PMC chair has passed

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-14 Thread Vinod Kone
To circle back here, the vote to install a new PMC chair has passed and the request for the same is sent to the ASF Board. It will become official once the board meets and passes the resolution. I am expecting this to happen around the end of the month. On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 9:33 AM Andreas

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-09 Thread Andreas Peters
Thanks Vinod. :-) Am 09.04.21 um 01:55 schrieb Vinod Kone: > Hi folks, > > Thanks for further responses and strong interest from a few folks in > keeping the project going! > > I also had a chance to talk to some ASF members and it sounds like the ASF > preferred option forward in this

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Vinod Kone
Hi folks, Thanks for further responses and strong interest from a few folks in keeping the project going! I also had a chance to talk to some ASF members and it sounds like the ASF preferred option forward in this situation is to keep the project going in ASF. Given all the above, I'm

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Samuel Marks
In reference to new responses: 0. If you need a 501c3 equivalent to hold the copyright, I run a charity concentrating on facilitating large-scale screening programmes and intend to use Mesos to handle multiple clusters on the same set of servers ( https://sydneyscientific.org), and would be happy

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Andreas Peters
> Hopefully the other people who said they > were interested, like the guys from Criteo, Andreas, Javi, etc would > help too. I will and I'm sure the others too. I already try to help with the tickets in jira. Thanks to Benjamin Mahler who told me that it's ok if I do it. Andreas

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Charles-François Natali
Hey Andrei, You make some very good points. > I do not see how the approach "let's move the project out of ASF and > lower the bar there" benefits the _future_ of the project, compared to > lowering the committer bar while remaining in ASF. > (I will reconsider my vote if someone explains how

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Andrei Sekretenko
Well, one of the strengths of this project used to be effective collaboration between people sitting in different locations and different time zones (and, at certain intervals of time, working in different companies). Talking about COVID... the pandemic, assuming that it will subside, should

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Andreas Peters
As I see, Andrei you are sitting close to me (Hamburg, Germany), thats just 30km away from me. :-) It would make mentoring more easy, if we can see each other (of course, after covid). So, Andrei provide to be a mentor, I provide to be his student. :-) Cheers, Andreas OpenPGP_signature

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Andrei Sekretenko
EDIT: I will reconsider my vote if someone explains how the latter (lower the bar and remain in ASF) is MORE harmful to the project than the former (lower the bar and leave ASF) // Sorry, mixing up left and right, as usual On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 at 18:10, Andrei Sekretenko wrote: > > Sorry guys,

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Andrei Sekretenko
Sorry guys, let me try to fail this vote. -1 (binding) To continue any development (including maintenance), the entry bar for the people allowed to merge code and participate in project decisions has to be lowered, this way or another. I do not see how the approach "let's move the project out of

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Benjamin Bannier
Hi Shane, >> FWIW, I'm one of those people who said they were interested, and I >> still voted to move it to the attic (even though my vote is non >> binding as I'm not a committer). > >That's great! One of the questions I have for the project is: why >haven't they made you a committer yet?

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Andreas Peters
> - Given the discussions here that show there are likely new contributors > who want to help build Apache Mesos, don't worry about the Attic. We/there are a couple of peoples who want to be contributors and help to build Mesos. :-) > Trademarks are about *products*. Using

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 2021/04/07 01:42:07, Charles-François Natali wrote: > Hi Rich, > > FWIW, I'm one of those people who said they were interested, and I > still voted to move it to the attic (even though my vote is non > binding as I'm not a committer). That's great! One of the questions I have for the

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 2021/04/08 14:04:47, Andreas Peters wrote: > Hi Shane! > > > > Forks are *NOT* allowed to use the ASF's brands or trademarks, so if > > you're planning to advertise a new fork to do active development, my bet > > is you'll need a new name. > > Does it mean, "my" fork cannot called Mesos? >

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Charles-François Natali
I must say I'm really confused as well - what constitutes a fork in this context? On Thu, 8 Apr 2021, 21:07 Andreas Peters, wrote: > Hi Shane! > > > > Forks are *NOT* allowed to use the ASF's brands or trademarks, so if > > you're planning to advertise a new fork to do active development, my

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Andreas Peters
Hi Shane! > Forks are *NOT* allowed to use the ASF's brands or trademarks, so if > you're planning to advertise a new fork to do active development, my bet > is you'll need a new name. Does it mean, "my" fork cannot called Mesos? If it's so, then please do not move Mesos in the attic. There

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-08 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 2021/04/07 02:48:15, Vinod Kone wrote: > Hi Rich, ...snip... > Yes, there are some folks who are still interested in making some (minor) > contributions but for that they just need a single repo to collaborate on. > ASF has been a great home and steward for the Mesos project, but at this >

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-07 Thread DhilipKumar Sankaranarayanan
+1 All the very best everyone, really sad to see this great project go to attic :-( also excited about it's potential forks. Regards, Dhilip On Tue, 6 Apr, 2021, 3:07 PM Benjamin Mahler, wrote: > +1 (binding) > > Thanks to all who contributed to the project. > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 1:58 PM

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-07 Thread Rich Bowen
Thanks for taking the time to explain more to an outsider. Much appreciated. I remain unclear as to how the project could have enough people to remain active on Github, but not here. However, not seeing any dissenting voices from the stated-possible-new-committers, I accept your reasoning, and

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Yan Xu
+1 It’s been quite a journey! Yan On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:49 PM Vinod Kone wrote: > Hi Rich, > > Thanks for chiming in and providing your perspective. > > Charles already did a great job summarizing some of the current sentiments > in the community above. I wanted to add a couple more points

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Vinod Kone
Hi Rich, Thanks for chiming in and providing your perspective. Charles already did a great job summarizing some of the current sentiments in the community above. I wanted to add a couple more points based on my discussions with folks in the community and PMC. Yes, there are some folks who are

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Samuel Marks
Who runs this one? https://github.com/mesos Samuel Marks Charity | consultancy | open-source | LinkedIn On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 11:42 AM Charles-François Natali wrote: > Hi

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Charles-François Natali
Hi Rich, FWIW, I'm one of those people who said they were interested, and I still voted to move it to the attic (even though my vote is non binding as I'm not a committer). Initially I also thought that we could try to revive it within the ASF, but it quickly became clear that *none* of the

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Rich Bowen
I hope y'all can forgive me for sticking my nose in, as a concerned member. Color me confused by this vote. A month ago, on this same list - https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r307db648e201182fcf39b0de63ba224b94965501e20e6cbcecc085e4%40%3Cdev.mesos.apache.org%3E - Qian asked who was still

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Gastón Kleiman
+1 I had a great time working with you all and with the community! Hope our paths cross again in the future! On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:58 AM Vinod Kone wrote: > Hi folks, > > Based on the recent conversations >

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Kevin Klues
+1 (binding) While it is of course sad to see things come to an end here, I do encourage those of you who wish to see Mesos live on to try and breath new life into it as a standalone project on github. In that sense, this is more of a new beginning than an end. The king is dead, long live the

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Benjamin Mahler
+1 (binding) Thanks to all who contributed to the project. On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 1:58 PM Vinod Kone wrote: > Hi folks, > > Based on the recent conversations > < > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E > > >

Re: Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Greg Stein
Write permission will be turned off. All Apache Mesos repositories will become read-only, upon a move to the Attic. Regards, Greg Stein Infrastructure Administrator, ASF On 2021/04/06 11:34:23 Charles-François Natali wrote: > +1 (non binding) > > Hopefully this will allow the project to

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Dave Lester
+1 (binding) On 2021/04/06 15:19:13, Jie Yu wrote: > +1 > > It was great working with you all. > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:13 AM Till Toenshoff wrote: > > > > > > > On 5. Apr 2021, at 19:58, Vinod Kone wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > Based on the recent conversations > >

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Gastón Kleiman
+1 I had a great time working with you all and with the community! Hope our paths cross again in the future! On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:58 AM Vinod Kone wrote: > Hi folks, > > Based on the recent conversations >

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Meng Zhu
+1 It has been a pleasure working with you all! On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 10:58 AM Vinod Kone wrote: > Hi folks, > > Based on the recent conversations > < > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/raed89cc5ab78531c48f56aa1989e1e7eb05f89a6941e38e9bc8803ff%40%3Cuser.mesos.apache.org%3E > > > on our

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Jie Yu
+1 It was great working with you all. On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 7:13 AM Till Toenshoff wrote: > > > On 5. Apr 2021, at 19:58, Vinod Kone wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Based on the recent conversations >

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Till Toenshoff
> On 5. Apr 2021, at 19:58, Vinod Kone wrote: > > Hi folks, > > Based on the recent conversations > > on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Charles-François Natali
+1 (non binding) Hopefully this will allow the project to continue its life outside the ASF. Can you confirm whether it'll be possible to continue using https://github.com/apache/mesos and give write permissions to the various people who expressed interest? On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, 14:47 Alex R,

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-06 Thread Alex R
+1 (binding) Great times having worked with you folks! On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 at 21:50, Andrew Schwartzmeyer wrote: > It seems to be the best (and really only) move at this point, +1. > > It was nice working with you all! > > Andy > > On 2021/04/05 18:31:13, Benjamin Bannier wrote: > > With a

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-05 Thread Andrew Schwartzmeyer
It seems to be the best (and really only) move at this point, +1. It was nice working with you all! Andy On 2021/04/05 18:31:13, Benjamin Bannier wrote: > With a heavy heart, but also curiosity about what will come next, +1. > > > Benjamin > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:58 PM Vinod Kone

Re: [VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-05 Thread Benjamin Bannier
With a heavy heart, but also curiosity about what will come next, +1. Benjamin On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:58 PM Vinod Kone wrote: > Hi folks, > > Based on the recent conversations >

[VOTE] Move Apache Mesos to Attic

2021-04-05 Thread Vinod Kone
Hi folks, Based on the recent conversations on our mailing list, it seems to me that the majority consensus among the existing PMC is to move the project to the attic