Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-06 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 09/06/2013 01:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:39 AM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 09/06/2013 03:24 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher: On Sep 5, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM, sebbseb...@gmail.com wrote: A related issue is:

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-06 Thread Andrew Rist
On 9/6/2013 4:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote: snip Another angle is to realize that enabling the user and motivating them in a specific direction is more powerful than trying to steer them away from a specific direction. Maybe the problem is we are not making the support forums sound attractive

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-06 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: On 9/6/2013 4:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote: snip Another angle is to realize that enabling the user and motivating them in a specific direction is more powerful than trying to steer them away from a specific direction.

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-06 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 06/09/2013 22:37, Andrew Rist a écrit : Perhaps this is a situation of people who are more comfortable with email as a tool as opposed to a forum. If you are not familiar with forums in general, our forum can be pretty daunting to navigate - there's a lot of info there. Do we have a way

User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread sebb
The dev list sees the occasional thread which IMO really belongs on the user list/forum Although it is convenient for the poster to have the question answered on the dev list, I wonder if that is the best approach overall. The disadvantages of not referring the poster to the user list are

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:24 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: The dev list sees the occasional thread which IMO really belongs on the user list/forum Although it is convenient for the poster to have the question answered on the dev list, I wonder if that is the best approach overall. The

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread sebb
On 5 September 2013 12:15, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote: On 9/5/2013 5:24 PM, sebb wrote: The dev list sees the occasional thread which IMO really belongs on the user list/forum Although it is convenient for the poster to have the question answered on the dev list, I wonder if that

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread sebb
On 5 September 2013 12:00, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:24 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: The dev list sees the occasional thread which IMO really belongs on the user list/forum Although it is convenient for the poster to have the question answered on the dev

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Peter Junge wrote: Unfortunately it's not possible to already redirecting to the user list during moderating. I would guess at least 80% of user topics here are moderated in. Didn't we discuss mechanisms to restrict postings to dev@ a couple of months ago? Considering the people we are dealing

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread Hagar Delest
Le 05/09/2013 21:13, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : Considering the people we are dealing with (users who are often unfamiliar with mailing lists) I think that we should continue to moderate messages and replying, but add to the reply something like: Please note that this mailing list is not the

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread sebb
A related issue is: why so many emails with the (irrelevant) subject: Reporting a problem with the Open Office website I assume there must be a mailto: link somewhere that is producing this. The surrounding text may need to be tweaked to reduce these. On 5 September 2013 22:48, Kay Schenk

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: A related issue is: why so many emails with the (irrelevant) subject: Reporting a problem with the Open Office website that's the pre-constructed subject for the first entry in: If you have technical problems with one of the

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 6:29 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2013 12:00, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:24 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: The dev list sees the occasional thread which IMO really belongs on the user list/forum Although it is

Re: User questions on dev mailing list

2013-09-05 Thread Dave Fisher
On Sep 5, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 4:11 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: A related issue is: why so many emails with the (irrelevant) subject: Reporting a problem with the Open Office website that's the pre-constructed subject for the first entry