On 2/13/13 10:11 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
I've been busy with building lately, especially with building on Fedora
18 with the --with-system-libs switch, which should be used for
packaging in Fedora. This is preparation work for the Fedora 19 packaging.
To isolate the problematic
On 2/13/13 10:27 PM, Maarten Kesselaers wrote:
My build just crashed on the build.xml under
./main/l10ntools/java/jpropex/ at line 122 :
122classpathref=classpath
So I guess I need to set a CLASSPATH, right?
To which directory should it be set?
do you have configured a
Hi Hagar,
On 10.02.2013 21:32, Hagar Delest wrote:
Le 06/02/2013 21:21, Hagar Delest a écrit :
Le 06/02/2013 09:03, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann a écrit :
BTW, does the above given workarounds work on your side?
Sadly, it's the profile of the machine that got its Windows XP
partition unusable
On 2/14/13 2:29 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
On 02/13/2013 02:46 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
Independently of the vote result I will be effectively stopping the
development work I intended to do on Calc as I have lost all
interest on improving it given the current situation.
I totally
Hi all,
some parts were developed by Lanedo and then integrated into
LibreOffice. I have got the permission to forward the list of commit
IDs. The OSB-Alliance can relicense them under Apache License 2.0. I
think before we go to ask for relicensing, we should look whether this
patches are
Hi,
On 06.02.2013 17:39, Regina Henschel wrote:
Oliver-Rainer Wittmann schrieb:
Hi,
recently I got notice about our (from my point of view) very
user-unfriendly way for editing Input Fields in Writer.
Currently, you can not place the cursor into an Input Field which in
general is shown with a
Hi Dennis,
On 06.02.2013 19:35, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
For real input fields, (that is, form:text elements), direct entry works.
I am not sure what you mean by 'real input fields'.
I am talking about the fields which are inserted into a text document in
AOO Writer by Menu Insert - Fields
Hello,
Thank you very much to all of you, men and women, developers,
QA-persons, authors of documentation and all others, who support this
great Free office-suite.
Tanks to all, who remain true to our MissionStatement:
To create, as a community, the leading international office suite that
will
Hi,
I am currently building branch sidebar, revision 1444704.
I observed the following warning during the build in module svx:
warning
Text [ en-US ] = Color Light Preview;
^
f4099: c:/AOO/sources/sidebar/main/svx/source/engine3d/float3d.src,
line 1440: Warning in the object (Type: String,
On 2013/02/14 2:27 AM, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote:
How I can do a debug mode?
Where I can find more information about the debug mode?
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Non_Product_Build
is a good start for the debug mode of AOO.
Also http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Debugging
is a good start for
Hi Regina, *
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:31:53AM +0100, Regina Henschel wrote:
Hi all,
some parts were developed by Lanedo and then integrated into
LibreOffice. I have got the permission to forward the list of commit
IDs. The OSB-Alliance can relicense them under Apache License 2.0. I
think
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On 2/14/13 12:32 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
Hi Regina, *
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 10:31:53AM +0100, Regina Henschel wrote:
Hi all,
some parts were developed by Lanedo and then integrated into
LibreOffice. I have got the permission to
On 13/02/2013 Pedro Giffuni wrote:
I will ask everyone to take a break for two weeks before starting the
voting procedure for this.
Fine. I would have started the vote earlier, but it's your code so I'll
respect your choice. And it's good to give people more time to think
(not to write!)
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
.--
We had a committer veto. Why are having a vote? A -1 from a
commmitter is not something we vote on. The patch needs to be
reverted, now.
We actually have two *invalid* vetos
I recall you aduced the change is not backwards compatible.
I have noticed that when signing up for the wiki sites you use the cat images
captcha. I'm not blind myself, and i don't know much about how blind people use
a computer, but I do wonder how a blind person would manage to solve this.
Perhaps there is a way, but I thought I'd mention this in case
Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Fine. I would have started the vote earlier, but it's your code so I'll
respect your choice. And it's good to give people more time to think (not to
We had a committer veto. Why are having a vote? A -1 from a
commmitter
Hi Andrea;
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Fine. I would have started the vote earlier, but it's your code so
I'll
respect your choice. And it's good to give people more time to
think (not
Hello Juergen;
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Jürgen Schmidt
On 2/14/13 2:29 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote:
On 02/13/2013 02:46 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
Independently of the vote result I will be effectively stopping the
development work I intended to do on Calc as I have
Hi Juergen;
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Jürgen Schmidt
...
And to be honest the technical ground for the veto is in this thread,
especially Norbert's mail.
As I replied to Norbert's email: the quote was taken out of context:
the definition applies to some special purpose algebra
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 10:32 PM, tj t...@apache.org wrote:
Prior to working with AOO, I thought that there was a widely-known and
generally accepted methodology for releasing incompatible changes. However,
the problem has surfaced here three times: once last spring (encryption
default), and
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Carl Marcum cmar...@apache.org wrote:
can I append a missing commit log?
I committed r1446039 on command line okay,
but r1446040and r1446041 using netbeans I missed the message:
Added IT localization files
Patch by: Fabrizio Marchesano
On Feb 14, 2013 2:33 PM, Robin Fowler robin.fow...@outlook.com wrote:
I have noticed that when signing up for the wiki sites you use the cat
images captcha. I'm not blind myself, and i don't know much about how blind
people use a computer, but I do wonder how a blind person would manage to
solve
On 14 February 2013 16:05, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
Hi you are quite right, our create account is not friendly towards blind
people, having said that we need something like that in order to fight
spam, and anybody who has a problem creating an account can mail this help
and will get help.
On Feb 14, 2013 5:13 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 14 February 2013 16:05, janI j...@apache.org wrote:
Hi you are quite right, our create account is not friendly towards
blind
people, having said that we need something like that in order to fight
spam, and anybody who has a
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote:
Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Fine. I would have started the vote earlier, but it's your code so I'll
Man.. do I have to repeat everything again?
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
And so it is clear, my technical objection is:
Backwards compatibility of spreadsheet documents, and calculations
specifically, is critical. If AOO 4.0 returns results that are even a
penny
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
Man.. do I have to repeat everything again?
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
And so it is clear, my technical objection is:
Backwards compatibility of spreadsheet documents, and calculations
specifically,
I'd like to run this by as an idea.
Today, the announcement at the top of our website is controlled by this file:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext
The announce and announceurl values then enter into the
templating process via:
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
...
OOo already has plenty of functions that give backwards
incompatible results with previous versions of OOo and
Symphony (which is rather crappy). atanh, asinh, erf,
everything in SAL has needed continued revisions.
I have not seen
Am 02/13/2013 10:34 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
Hi BZ admins,
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/
May I suggest some little string changes on the BZ startpage:
HTML title
--
Currently:
Apache OOo Bugzilla Main Page
New:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
...
OOo already has plenty of functions that give backwards
incompatible results with previous versions of OOo and
Symphony (which is rather crappy). atanh, asinh, erf,
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
...
OOo already has plenty of functions that give backwards
incompatible results with previous versions
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
And I should say that I'm happy to help if you or anyone else wishes
to introduce a warning mode or formula lint or similar feature
that can be optionally enabled to check for possible inadvertent user
errors.
As the guys from the
Any updates on the discussion below? (I leave it for context since it
was sent to multiple lists). ApacheCon NA 2013 is coming soon and
speakers would really appreciate to have an updated presentation
template within a few days!
Regards,
Andrea.
On 08/02/2013 Shenfeng Liu wrote:
Saransh,
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
And I should say that I'm happy to help if you or anyone else wishes
to introduce a warning mode or formula lint or similar feature
that can be optionally enabled to check
Hi all,
please have a break. Keep in mind, that our community members from China
have their Chinese New Year holidays and might not be back yet. Give
them a change to notice the discussion.
Kind regards
Regina
Andrea Pescetti schrieb:
Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM,
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
And I should say that I'm happy to help if you or anyone else wishes
to introduce a warning mode or
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
And I should say that I'm happy to help if you or anyone else
wishes
to introduce a warning mode or formula
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
I'd like to run this by as an idea.
Today, the announcement at the top of our website is controlled by this
file:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/brand.mdtext
The announce and
Obviously the changes to Calc's POWER() function did not go well.
IMHO, we need to better respect the rare but powerful veto option that
committers have:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#Veto
When a committ is vetoed, it should be reverted quickly. Remember, a
veto is likely to
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
And I should say that I'm happy to help if you or
Hi,
I am a high school (gymnasial) student in 12th grade from Czech Republic,
Prague. Since programming belongs to my biggest interests, I have a great
motivation to extend my knowledge and gain valuable experiences. So far I
have been learning through books, contests (codeforces, topcoder) and
Rob Weir wrote:
When a committ is vetoed, it should be reverted quickly.
Yes, when we have a proper veto, with valid technical grounds. A good
side of the 0 ^ 0 discussion is that contributors are now better
educated on this.
If the original coder is willing and able to revert quickly,
Hi
I want to become a volunteer for the development or another tasks of the
project but i don't understand if i need firs introduce myself in the
dev and next sign up on the wikis.
What is the correct process for that.
I apreciate the help.
Thanks a lot.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
Rob Weir wrote:
When a committ is vetoed, it should be reverted quickly.
Yes, when we have a proper veto, with valid technical grounds. A good side
of the 0 ^ 0 discussion is that contributors are now better
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Luis Ortiz 3ckb4...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
I want to become a volunteer for the development or another tasks of the
project but i don't understand if i need firs introduce myself in the dev
and next sign up on the wikis.
What is the correct process for that.
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Tomáš Zahradník tzahr...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I am a high school (gymnasial) student in 12th grade from Czech Republic,
Prague. Since programming belongs to my biggest interests, I have a great
motivation to extend my knowledge and gain valuable experiences. So
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
Inviato: Giovedì 14 Febbraio 2013 17:31
Oggetto: Proposal: How we should handle committer vetos and reverts in the
future
Obviously the changes to Calc's POWER() function did not go well.
IMHO, we need to better respect the rare but
Rob;
Can you confirm the platform where you got those results?
Thanks,
Pedro.
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
A: dev@openoffice.apache.org; Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org
Cc:
Inviato: Giovedì 14 Febbraio 2013 16:47
Oggetto: Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Dave Fisher
...
I agree that there should be no delay from the moment a veto is
acknowledged to the moment the commit is reverted, and that discussions can
be
held after the revert. But, whenever possible, give the committer the
opportunity to
3 days I'd say is fine. There is no
need to rush out and fix a broken trunk,
no matter what the rationale may be.
From: Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org dev@openoffice.apache.org
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 9:32 PM
Subject:
Hello Ariel,
How I can update 3.5 to 4.0?
I would like to know step by step how to do this.
Help me.
2013/2/14 Herbert Dürr h...@apache.org
On 2013/02/14 2:27 AM, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote:
How I can do a debug mode?
Where I can find more information about the debug mode?
On Feb 14, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Joe Schaefer joe_schae...@yahoo.com wrote:
3 days I'd say is fine. There is no
need to rush out and fix a broken trunk,
no matter what the rationale may be.
In this case Pedro had already written that he *would not* revert the
patch. I take that as permission
On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:51 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
Rob;
Can you confirm the platform where you got those results?
I believe this was WinXP SP3 (32-bit), but I can confirm in the morning.
-Rob
Thanks,
Pedro.
- Messaggio originale -
Da: Rob Weir
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 09:05:55PM -0600, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote:
Hello Ariel,
How I can update 3.5 to 4.0?
are you using subversion? What's the output of
cd SRC_ROOT
svn info
Regards
--
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina
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Thats alright I just needed to know it was not linux.
In the bugzilla issue Dennis had reported those were OK in some platform.
Ah well, given the monster thread this caused excuse me if I dont hurry to fix
it ;).
Pedro.
Ugh...
I think this is beating the dead horse now, but you cannot say I was
unresponsive during this thread.
The main question to rescue here is: How decides if a veto is valid or not?
Kay#39;s veto really needed clarification and I still think that your original
veto was not technical.
The PMC decides whether or not an expressed
veto is valid or not. But generally speaking,
vetos should not be either thrown around willy-
nilly nor should they be challenged every time
they are issued.
It's all part of how we work, this recent episode
should be considered a learning experience
On 02/14/2013 09:29 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On 2/14/13 2:49 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
Fine. I would have started the vote earlier, but it's your code so I'll
respect your choice. And it's good to give people more time
I have this subversion:
svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk
My question again, is how I can update basis3.4. to basis4? Explain me step by
step please.
2013/2/14 Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 09:05:55PM -0600, jorge ivan poot diaz
Hi Jorge,
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:43:34PM -0600, jorge ivan poot diaz wrote:
I have this subversion:
svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk
then you need to update the source tree:
svn up
There are several subversion tutorial on the web.
Regards
--
Ariel
I have full working eclipse env and try to build on Mac OS X 10.6.
All prerequisits are installed as described in the guide.
Thanks,
Maarten
Op 14-feb.-2013 09:33 schreef Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com het
volgende:
On 2/13/13 10:27 PM, Maarten Kesselaers wrote:
My build just crashed on
Do you want me to design something!!
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote:
Any updates on the discussion below? (I leave it for context since it was
sent to multiple lists). ApacheCon NA 2013 is coming soon and speakers
would really appreciate to have an
Hello Ariel,
output of
cd SRC_ROOT
svn info
Path:.
URL: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk
Repository Root: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf
Repository UUID: 13f79535-47bb-0310-9956-ffa450edef68
Revision: 1440197
Node type: directory
Scheduled: normal
Author of last change: alg
Ok Great let me work on it how much time do we have to complete this
...if we have short time i can ask my fellow designers to contribute and to
help me if we have ample time then great!!!
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Saransh Sharma saransh-...@projktr.inwrote:
Do you want me to
I did not test with your patch. I reported on behavior of available
releases.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 19:42
To: rabas...@gmail.com; dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: :Re: Calc behavior: result of 0 ^ 0
On 13/02/2013 Rob Weir wrote:
This lead to a series of behaviors which were specified to be
implementation-defined, or in some case locale-defined or
unspecified. These are subtly different, and express nuances common
in standards, what we refer to as dimensions of variability.
And where does
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