Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-18 Thread Mich Talebzadeh
Hi, After all the fireworks and quote "this super duper topic" has a decision being made on what to use as the official or endorsed slack type platform? This I think would be most useful for the monolithic product release votes a least (yep the one with +1 etc). To be fair, there has been a

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-12 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
Thank you, Chitral. Dongjoon On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 12:08 AM Chitral Verma wrote: > Hi all, > Thanks for starting a discussion on this super-important topic. > > I'm not sure if this is already considered, but Discord is also a viable > option and many many open-source projects and

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-10 Thread Chitral Verma
Hi all, Thanks for starting a discussion on this super-important topic. I'm not sure if this is already considered, but Discord is also a viable option and many many open-source projects and communities are using it. - It's *mostly* free with no online user limitations like slack. - Has a

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-09 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
Thank you, Holden, Bjorn, Maciej. Yes, those are also valid. Dongjoon. On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 4:20 AM Maciej wrote: > @Bjørn Matrix (represented by element in the linked summary. Also, since > the last year, Rocket Chat uses Matrix under the hood) is already used for > user support and

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-08 Thread Maciej
@Bjørn Matrix (represented by element in the linked summary. Also, since the last year, Rocket Chat uses Matrix under the hood) is already used for user support and related discussions for a number of large projects, since gitter migrated there. And it is not like we need Slack or its

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-07 Thread Bjørn Jørgensen
Yes, I have done some search for slack alternatives I feel that we should do some search, to find if there can be a better solution than slack. For what I have found, there are two that can be an alternative for slack. Rocket.Chat

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-07 Thread Holden Karau
I think there was some concern around how to make any sync channel show up in logs / index / search results? On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 9:41 AM Dongjoon Hyun wrote: > Thank you, All. > > I'm very satisfied with the focused and right questions for the real > issues by removing irrelevant claims. :)

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-07 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
Thank you, All. I'm very satisfied with the focused and right questions for the real issues by removing irrelevant claims. :) Let me collect your relevant comments simply. # Category 1: Invitation Hurdle > The key question here is that do PMC members have the bandwidth of inviting everyone in

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-06 Thread Matei Zaharia
To me, the most important opportunity here is to create a better support environment for users, and I think it’s super important to allow users to join immediately on their own if we want this to succeed. A lot of users these days do prefer to join a live chat interface to get support for an

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-06 Thread Maciej
Additionally. there is no indication that the-asf.slack.com is intended for general support. In particular it states the following > The Apache Software Foundation has a workspace on Slack to provide channels on which people working on the same ASF project, or in

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-06 Thread Khalid Mammadov
Hi, I have been following this thread and want to add my 2 cents. Apache Airflow project got Slack channel and it's self service! I joined it and it costs me zero to use it where as one Mich send requires payed subscription. IMHO, it will be major barrier for people to join just ask a question. I

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-06 Thread Denny Lee
Thanks Dongjoon, but I don't think this is misleading insofar that this is not a *self-service process* but an invite process which admittedly I did not state explicitly in my previous thread. And thanks for the invite to the-ASF Slack - I just joined :) Saying this, I do completely agree with

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-06 Thread Mich Talebzadeh
Hello Since last Friday we have had 84 members in the sparkcommunitytalk.slack.com so that is a vote for itself in a democratic way (as far as I am concerned.) With regard to the other matters, I agree one can have as much discussion as desired. I leave it to others. I don't have any more to add

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-06 Thread Maciej
Hi Mich, If repeated discussions indicate anything, it is that there is no consensus among maintainers regarding using Slack as an *official* communication channel. So which members and whose democracy are w talking about? I don't recall any vote... Oh, and when did we become a democracy

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-06 Thread Mich Talebzadeh
Reminds me of a case of flogging a dead horse. This has already been discussed many times and there is no need for further discussion or summary. The newly created stack community sparkcommunitytalk.slack.com is a reality and is there to stay.

Re: Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-05 Thread Dongjoon Hyun
Thank you so much, Denny. Yes, let me comment on a few things. > - While there is an ASF Slack , it >requires an @apache.org email address 1. This sounds a little misleading because we can see `guest` accounts in the same link. People can be invited by

Slack for Spark Community: Merging various threads

2023-04-05 Thread Denny Lee
There have been a number of threads discussing creating a Slack for the Spark community that I'd like to try to help reconcile. Topic: Slack for Spark Why: Allows for the community to have the option to communicate with each other using Slack; a pretty popular async communication. Discussion