[S2] Mess with WW-1942

2007-11-04 Thread Antonio Petrelli
Hi all! I closed the WW-1942 because the remaining failing test case was not related to Java 6 and/or Windows, so I closed it and opened a new one. https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-2291 I have to apologize Don (Brown) since I closed this issue, and I assigned him the new issue, but it

Pre-Assigning Tickets (was Re: [S2] Mess with WW-1942)

2007-11-04 Thread Ted Husted
As a rule, I would suggest that we avoid assigning tickets to ourselves or to each other, or even to ourselves, until we have actually, that minute, started work on the ticket. In an open volunteer environment, pre-assigning tickets undermines volunteerism and and promotes bottlenecking.

Re: Pre-Assigning Tickets (was Re: [S2] Mess with WW-1942)

2007-11-04 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2007/11/4, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As a rule, I would suggest that we avoid assigning tickets to ourselves or to each other, or even to ourselves, until we have actually, that minute, started work on the ticket. In an open volunteer environment, pre-assigning tickets undermines

Re: Messing around with parameters

2007-11-04 Thread Ted Husted
On Nov 1, 2007 4:10 PM, Brian Pontarelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: s:hidden name=[EMAIL PROTECTED] value=EUR/ s:textfield key=child.allowance/ c:hidden name=[EMAIL PROTECTED] value=MM/dd// s:textfield key=subscription.expireDate/ Is the use case that these facts are embedded in the page,

[S2] Message Resources ExpressionConfigurationSupport

2007-11-04 Thread Ted Husted
I'm looking at https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-809 which would let us load message resources by designating a package with a wildcard character, like this * webwork.custom.i18n.resources=ApplicationResources, actions/* in which case all the .properties files in the actions package

[S2] Taglib Exercises Appilcation and ShowCase Expectations

2007-11-04 Thread Ted Husted
Following up on https://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/WW-771, and dealing with Tag QA generally, I wonder if we should have a taglib exercises application that provides a simple visual test suite against the tags, as we do for Struts 1. My concern is that it would start to overlap with what we

Re: [S2] Taglib Exercises Appilcation and ShowCase Expectations

2007-11-04 Thread Don Brown
The junit tests actually have a pretty good set of functional, black box tests for the tags, although there are holes. Therefore, I don't think showing every single tag for the purposes of testing is necessary. Kudos for taking up showcase cleanup banner. Don On 11/4/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL

Re: [S2] Taglib Exercises Appilcation and ShowCase Expectations

2007-11-04 Thread Ted Husted
Except that I'd have to learn to write them :) On Nov 4, 2007 7:51 AM, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The junit tests actually have a pretty good set of functional, black box tests for the tags, although there are holes. Therefore, I don't think showing every single tag for the purposes

Re: [S2] Taglib Exercises Appilcation and ShowCase Expectations

2007-11-04 Thread Tom Schneider
I'm not sure it is practical for a junit test to test all the variations of the tags. Just setting up the expected output would be very tedious. I like the idea of having a taglib showcase to test all the tags--I looked at showcase the other day to see if it had this and it didn't. Also,

[s2] Roadmap for the core taglib

2007-11-04 Thread Tom Schneider
Speaking of the core taglib, what ARE we going to do with it. There's been talk of moving them to a separate plugin, reimplementing them in a java, etc. It would be nice to know from a roadmap prespective about where the core taglib is headed--I have several plugins that would be affected by

Re: [s2] Roadmap for the core taglib

2007-11-04 Thread Ted Husted
On Nov 4, 2007 9:33 AM, Tom Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of the core taglib, what ARE we going to do with it. There's been talk of moving them to a separate plugin, reimplementing them in a java, etc. It would be nice to know from a roadmap prespective about where the core

Re: [s2] Roadmap for the core taglib

2007-11-04 Thread Tom Schneider
Ted Husted wrote: Don's also been doing some preliminary refactoring in XWork so that the expression language can be made pluggable, meaning we would also be able to plugin something else instead of OGNL. -Ted. You mean like JUEL?

[s2] JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib)

2007-11-04 Thread Don Brown
Whoa, where did that one come from? I was just begging for such a plugin yesterday on #struts from Richard Burton, who is working on an MVEL one. I could see Struts 3 == new taglib + JUEL + robust rest and codebehind. As for the problem of so many combinations of plugins, I'm all for the

Re: [s2] JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib)

2007-11-04 Thread Tom Schneider
Isn't that what Ted wanted? A new plug-in a day for 60 days. :) I have one lined up for tomorrow. Tom Don Brown wrote: Whoa, where did that one come from? I was just begging for such a plugin yesterday on #struts from Richard Burton, who is working on an MVEL one. I could see Struts 3 ==

Re: [s2] Roadmap for the core taglib

2007-11-04 Thread Ted Husted
The key point is that we don't have to demonstrate all the flexibility in the examples that we post at the site. People who don't know what choices to make, will look at our examples, and just follow those. As to the examples we post, I would like to pick a stack that we can all support, and use

Re: [s2] Roadmap for the core taglib

2007-11-04 Thread Don Brown
Even though I argued for it initially, I'm still not 100% sure we want to pull out the tags. Not only is it more confusing to users, but it makes tag extension harder, since plugins can't provide plugin points to other plugins. That means we'd have to keep the majority of the tag infrastructure

Re: [s2] JUEL plugin (was Roadmap for the core taglib)

2007-11-04 Thread Chris Pratt
On Nov 4, 2007 2:58 PM, Don Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for the problem of so many combinations of plugins, I'm all for the proliferation of plugins, but do think we need to not ship with two plugins that solve the same problem. I believe Struts already ships multiple plugins that solve