RE: Adding new Struts features/sub-projects (was [Bug 28609] - Scriptable Actions Support)

2004-04-28 Thread Ted Husted
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:31:20 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote: I would hope that we would think *very* carefully before following the same or similar procedures as these projects. These are all umbrella projects, and the first two, at least, have clearly demonstrated the problems with such projects.

Re: The future of actions (RE: Adding new Struts features/sub-projects (was [Bug 28609] - Scriptable Actions Support))

2004-04-28 Thread Michael McGrady
+1 At 09:06 AM 4/28/2004, Joe Germuska wrote: I don't think you're heretical at all, Martin. I was at the Wisconsin Java Software Symposium a couple of weeks ago, and between the sessions on WebWork and Spring and on writing testable Struts code, I came away convinced that changing how

RE: Adding new Struts features/sub-projects (was [Bug 28609] - Scriptable Actions Support)

2004-04-27 Thread Joe Germuska
IMO, the BSF actions are a perfect example of a core Struts feature (ie. Actions) allowing many neat implementations that don't have to be supported by the core project. But to make life easier for Struts' users, we can provide useful, trusted, proven extensions from the same place they

Re: Adding new Struts features/sub-projects (was [Bug 28609] - Scriptable Actions Support)

2004-04-27 Thread Ted Husted
We might just follow the same general procedure we've used for Jakarta, the Commons, and the Incubator. * A Struts subproject is created in response to a proposal to the DEV list. * The proposal must be made by a Struts Committer and name two other Struts Committers who are willing to support

Re: Adding new Struts features/sub-projects (was [Bug 28609] - Scriptable Actions Support)

2004-04-27 Thread Joe Germuska
I'd be happy to be one of the Committers named on a proposal to create a scripting subproject. You can add me to that list. Joe -- Joe Germuska [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.germuska.com Imagine if every Thursday your shoes exploded if you tied them the usual way. This

Re: Adding new Struts features/sub-projects (was [Bug 28609] - Scriptable Actions Support)

2004-04-27 Thread Don Brown
I think it goes without saying I'd be on the list, but just in case... :) So, in this scripting subproject, could this perhaps someday host a continuations-based scripting flow implementation? Dave Johnson has been doing some good work pulling Cocoon's flow out of Cocoon and I think a Struts

Re: Adding new Struts features/sub-projects (was [Bug 28609] - Scriptable Actions Support)

2004-04-26 Thread David Graham
--- Steve Raeburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm posting this to the dev-list rather than carrying on with Bugzilla, since it looks like there might be some further discussion :-) I have no position on whether this should be considered core or an add-on, but if it's to be an add-on, why not

Re: Adding new Struts features/sub-projects (was [Bug 28609] - Scriptable Actions Support)

2004-04-26 Thread Ted Husted
The sad truth is that many teams that do use Struts cannot also use whatever other goody they find on SourceForge or on some other open source host. Many do have permission to use Struts, but getting permission to use another product is a difficult task. I believe we have an obligation to the

RE: Adding new Struts features/sub-projects (was [Bug 28609] - Scriptable Actions Support)

2004-04-26 Thread Steve Raeburn
Some ideas, not neccessarily complete or well-formed... -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 26, 2004 9:44 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Adding new Struts features/sub-projects (was [Bug 28609] - Scriptable Actions Support) What