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Yea,
I have consistently advocated using Scala with strong coding
standards - standards that are actually believed in and enforced.
I have referred to it as OO Scala, Scala which is strong on the
Java-like Object-Oriented features plus functional programming
in-the-small, but refrains from using
The only thing that bugs me about scala is its flexibility of
accepting different kind of notation. It's that what was the
downfall of html: making complilers flexible to allow various human
input and as end result none of the browsers work correctly because
the truth is only in the eye of the
Flexible syntax is a big part of it, but combined with operator override,
it's a potential hole for understanding.
They will never officially do that because one big use-case for scala is
DSLs, in which this is an advantage (and the main scala team just got a
reasonably large funding from a
Yeah.. scala is like javazcribl ;)
2011/1/19 Gustavo Hexsel ghex...@gmail.com:
Flexible syntax is a big part of it, but combined with operator override,
it's a potential hole for understanding.
They will never officially do that because one big use-case for scala is
DSLs, in which this is
What about rewriting wicket into most wonderful tight functional scala style?
def : webserver {
homepage,
logoutpage,
onlinestore,
}
...
;)
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2011/1/19 James Carman ja...@carmanconsulting.com:
I believe this conversation has gone enough off-course that it no
longer belongs
Don't get me wrong, I'm all about seeing a Wicket-like Scala-based
project (and would contribute to it), but that's not what we've been
debating here lately on this thread. If you guys want to talk about
coming up with a from-the-ground-up Scala-based, Wicket-inspired
project, then I'm all ears
Hey mate,
I code Java for my day job, and write my fun code in Scala. I just love the
flexibility of Scala combined with the power to use all my existing Java
libraries. That said,
I don't see Scala overcoming Java anytime soon because it offers developers
_too much_ freedom. I had a real bad
Why people use C++ to facilitate making business a mess?
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2011/1/19 Liam Clarke-Hutchinson l...@steelsky.co.nz:
Hey mate,
I code Java for my day job, and write my fun code in Scala. I just love the
flexibility of Scala combined with the power to use all my existing Java
libraries.
I originally mentioned the Kuhn book in the context of the politics of
change. Altering the focus, you brought up *the truth* as the view
held by those resisting change, which I believe is not the larger
insight to be gained from his book. It is still my contention that my
original
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I guess Project Lombok could be extended for this.
You would be inviting the same problems encountered by C++ with its
multiple inheritance,
and all that magic will probably make things harder to follow.
But; like all shotguns, it's everyone's responsibility where they aim,
lest they shoot
One can always get better at following but tools must improve to be
better for building ;)
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2011/1/11 Rodolfo Hansen kry...@gmail.com:
I guess Project Lombok could be extended for this.
You would be inviting the same problems encountered by C++ with its
multiple inheritance,
and
I am sorry, but I can not disagree with you more about Kuhn's The
Structure of Scientific Revolutions. Its about resistance to change
and not scientific truth and, as such, it has generally applicable.
At its crudest, its about the old, vested guard being unwilling and/or
unable to move with the
me it has pretty
nice
Scala
support.
Jon
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Either way, you have to put logic somewhere that tries to figure out
what the heck you want to borrow and then figure out where the heck to
get it.
If it is done at compile time you don't need messaging logic. It
would be uniquely defined what you can get.
Please explain.
Think about
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nice
Scala
support.
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On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Martin Makundi
martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com wrote:
What I hate about java is its one-dimensionality... ehh.. say you have:
object man
object man carrying bag
bag carrying pencil case.
This isn't a Java problem. This is a design problem.
How would you
Hi!
You would use a more domain-oriented design approach. Setters/getters
are merely used because of all the frameworks that support (and
expect) them. Why do you care where the man is carrying his pencil?
Perhaps he's keeping it in his sock. All you want to do is ask the man
object for a
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Martin Makundi
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It should be possible to say that man will proxy by default all get
methods of his belongings, It should be possible to say that bag
will proxy by default all get methods of his belongings. Same with
Hi!
public T T borrowObject(ClassT objectType)
where you can do
Pencil p = man.borrowObject(Pencil.class);
Either way, you have to put logic somewhere that tries to figure out
what the heck you want to borrow and then figure out where the heck to
get it.
If it is done at compile time
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Martin Makundi
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Either way, you have to put logic somewhere that tries to figure out
what the heck you want to borrow and then figure out where the heck to
get it.
If it is done at compile time you don't need messaging
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it's because of all this green paper stuff they keep throwing at me. Maybe I
really have gotten old.
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Scala
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Everyone has opinions, myself included.
Curious the mention of Lift. It highlights Scala's
functional goodies and type classes which is certainly the
wrong approach - more in line with being less clear and less
simple. It is actually recommended that a Ruby programmer
would have a easier time
I agree with that. Considering the amount of effort involved in the
porting, and specially in the maintenance of that port, I think it would be
(would have been? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY_oKve-bH0) easier to
create a shell on top of Wicket to make Scala programmers' lives easier,
rather
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Gustavo Hexsel ghex...@gmail.com wrote:
One of the cool things about scala is that you could have a model concept
without a model class. You just need to receive 2 functions, a setter and a
getter (or just a setter for read-only models). So for instance a
I know of several other Apache projects like Camel, ActiveMQ, ServiceMix that
happily look at projects like http://hawtdispatch.fusesource.org/ as well as
integrate Scala
and of course use them as they were written by Apache people, they just used
Scala to solve problems
in an elegant manner.
That signature binds the function call to the function call expected in
the listview (i.e. the function itself is the parameter, not the results).
This means that the myService.list function is called only when the model
is evaluated, not when the listview is created.
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at
Cool. May I ask which tools (IDE) you've been using and what your
experience with these tools has been.
-Juergen
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:34 AM, Jeremy Thomerson
jer...@wickettraining.com wrote:
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Dev Wicketers,
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Juergen Donnerstag
juergen.donners...@gmail.com wrote:
Cool. May I ask which tools (IDE) you've been using and what your
experience with these tools has been.
#scala suggests IDEA 10 + SBT plugin as the most mature one.
-Juergen
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at
No IDE, I use Vim. Also, my build environment is Ant-based
using scalac and javac.
Of course, what I was doing was porting from Java to Scala.
To that end I've got some 400 Vim scripts that aid in the
port. For instance,
:g/final \([a-zA-Z]\+\) \([a-zA-Z]\+\)\[\]\s*=/s//val \2: Array[\1] =/g
Is this in IntelliJ IDEA?
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Gerolf Seitz gerolf.se...@gmail.com wrote:
It's cmd+shift+G (OSX) and it works quite well ;)
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Justin Lee evancho...@gmail.com wrote:
You can paste a java class into a .scala file and it'll autoconvert.
Is this in IntelliJ IDEA?
yes
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It's cmd+shift+G (OSX) and it works quite well ;)
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Justin Lee evancho...@gmail.com
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You can paste a java class into a .scala file and
So there is an IDE that you can point at a directory tree and
tell it to convert all of the Java files to Scala files.
Does it do a 100% conversion, 90%, 50% or 10% (on average)?
Do you have a link to a page documenting this feature?
Thanks
Richard
On 01/05/2011 03:04 PM, Gerolf Seitz wrote:
I've got to try it!
On Jan 5, 2011 6:10 PM, Gerolf Seitz gerolf.se...@gmail.com wrote:
Is this in IntelliJ IDEA?
yes
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Gerolf Seitz gerolf.se...@gmail.com
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It's cmd+shift+G (OSX) and it works quite well ;)
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM, Justin
Richard,
This would effectively result in Java code translated directly to
Scala, pretty naively.
From what you describe, you have already manually done much better than that.
As you have already hinted at in your previous posts, one of the key
points of this would be to take advantage of the
Dev Wicketers,
What: I have ported Wicket to Scala
A couple of months ago I took a 1.5 snapshot and ported to Scala.
This encompasses all of the source and test code. As successive 1.5
snapshots were released, I ported those differences to my Scala
version. I am current with 1.5
I haven't had time to read all of this (hard to get through it all on
my phone), but I don't think that mere port of Wicket to Scala is
what is needed. I'd rather see a project built for Scala from the
ground up based on some of the concepts from Wicket. Wicket wasn't
designed with a functional
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 5:15 PM, richard emberson richard.ember...@gmail.com
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Dev Wicketers,
What: I have ported Wicket to Scala
A couple of months ago I took a 1.5 snapshot and ported to Scala.
This encompasses all of the source and test code. As successive 1.5
snapshots
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