Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Ted Dunning
Also, the compiler is probably more accurate at keeping inherited documentation up to date. On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:52 PM, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@scalaris.com wrote: Right, and including it creates a placeholder to expand on or modify the inherited javadoc. I think we should keep

Re: BCEL/JCS code repackaging (Was Re: svn commit: r1150277 - /commons/proper/jcs/trunk/src/java/org/apache/jcs/auxiliary/disk/jdbc/JDBCDiskCache.java)

2011-07-25 Thread Simone Tripodi
hi all guys, I thought that moving from jakarta to commons community was enough to justify a binary compatibility breakage. have a nice day! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote: sebb

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Phil, Phil Steitz wrote: On 7/24/11 10:52 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote: Hi Phil, Phil Steitz wrote: On 7/24/11 3:13 PM, Gilles Sadowski wrote: Hello. I saw in the sources serveral /** {@inheritDoc} */ on methods with @Override annotation. Javadoc knows to inherit the javadoc of the

Re: [jira] [Resolved] (MATH-599) Re-implementation of Secant-based root finding algorithms

2011-07-25 Thread luc . maisonobe
- Mail original - De: Gilles Sadowski gil...@harfang.homelinux.org À: dev@commons.apache.org Envoyé: Lundi 25 Juillet 2011 00:18:56 Objet: Re: [jira] [Resolved] (MATH-599) Re-implementation of Secant-based root finding algorithms Luc Maisonobe resolved MATH-599.

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Torsten Curdt
Here's the problem as I see it.  Code with no javadoc is bad, bad, bad. Good code needs little javadocs. http://vafer.org/blog/20050323095453/ Good docs and good code over noise - any time. cheers, Torsten - To

[compress] Keep old Javadocs?

2011-07-25 Thread Stefan Bodewig
Hi all, some components keep the Javadocs for older versions online in addition to the ones of the current release. In our case the Javadocs for 1.2 won't be too different from the ones of 1.1, so I don't think it is worthwhile, but still I'd like to double check. Does anybody want the Javadocs

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread luc . maisonobe
Hi Jörg, - Mail original - De: Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@scalaris.com À: dev@commons.apache.org Envoyé: Lundi 25 Juillet 2011 09:19:36 Objet: Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override Hi Phil, Phil Steitz wrote: On 7/24/11 10:52 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote: Hi Phil, Phil Steitz wrote:

Re: [compress] Keep old Javadocs?

2011-07-25 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Stefan!!! I think that keeping old javadocs would have more sense when we release major releases, for cases such as compress 1.1 - 1.2, tags like @since, @deprecated, ... are more than enough. just my 2 cents, have a nice day!!! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/

[compress] Planning the 1.2 Release

2011-07-25 Thread Stefan Bodewig
Hi all, given that most discussion has only been started late last week, it has been a bit unorganized and some things have moved during the weekend I'll give it a bit more time to settle. IMHO svn trunk is ready to be released and likely won't change except for release notes, version numbers

Re: [compress] Keep old Javadocs?

2011-07-25 Thread luc . maisonobe
Hi Stefan, - Mail original - Hi all, some components keep the Javadocs for older versions online in addition to the ones of the current release. In our case the Javadocs for 1.2 won't be too different from the ones of 1.1, so I don't think it is worthwhile, but still I'd like to

Re: [Math] Simple benchmarking utility

2011-07-25 Thread luc . maisonobe
- Mail original - Hello. Hi Gilles, Finding myself repeatedly writing the same few lines when trying to figure out which of several implementations of some functionality was running faster, I wonder wether it would be interesting to add a little utility in the test section of

Re: [compress] Keep old Javadocs?

2011-07-25 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-07-25, luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: If the URL do include the version, then it would be better to keep old version online, to avoid dangling links from external web pages, mail archives or documentation. Good point, thanks Luc. The Javadoc URLs for Compress currently don't contain a

JCS commits, was: Re: [JCS] Migrating over from Jakarta?

2011-07-25 Thread Thomas Vandahl
On 23.07.11 08:17, Henri Yandell wrote: If you want to get the code committed, it makes life fractionally easier for you rather than figuring out how to svn switch over. I'm happy to wait on your nod before doing the svn move. It's ok as it is now. How is the policy here concerning larger

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread sebb
On 25 July 2011 09:13, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote: Here's the problem as I see it.  Code with no javadoc is bad, bad, bad. +1 Good code needs little javadocs. I disagree strongly. The Javadoc should present the public API (and should ideally be written before the code - i.e. the

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Torsten Curdt
Good code needs little javadocs. I disagree strongly. The Javadoc should present the public API (and should ideally be written before the code - i.e. the code implements the docs). If the only documentation is the code, it is much harder for users to determine how to use the API. For

Re: [compress] Require Java5?

2011-07-25 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On 2011-07-21, sebb wrote: However just doing that without adding @Override and minimal generics will result in compilation warnings; it seems wromg to release source that does not compile cleanly. The zip64 branch now requires Java5 but I'm having a hard time seeing any compiler warnings.

[GUMP@vmgump]: Project commons-proxy-test (in module apache-commons) failed

2011-07-25 Thread Gump
To whom it may engage... This is an automated request, but not an unsolicited one. For more information please visit http://gump.apache.org/nagged.html, and/or contact the folk at gene...@gump.apache.org. Project commons-proxy-test has an issue affecting its community integration. This

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Matt Benson
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote: Good code needs little javadocs. I disagree strongly. The Javadoc should present the public API (and should ideally be written before the code - i.e. the code implements the docs). If the only documentation is the code,

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Torsten Curdt
I am not saying don't use javadocs. It's all about using javadocs effectively. Forcing javadocs on all methods leads to bloat and noise. Better present stellar javadocs on public APIs and document how the library works. Having great examples helps a great deal ...but don't (please don't!) use

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2011/7/22 Arne Ploese aplo...@gmx.de: Hi, I saw in the sources serveral /** {@inheritDoc} */ on methods with @Override annotation. Javadoc knows to inherit the javadoc of the overwritten methos, so there is no need for @inheritDoc. If all agree, one could drop this if the code is modified?

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 7/25/11 1:13 AM, Torsten Curdt wrote: Here's the problem as I see it. Code with no javadoc is bad, bad, bad. Good code needs little javadocs. http://vafer.org/blog/20050323095453/ Good docs and good code over noise - any time. Ummno. Without method javadoc, library code is

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 7/25/11 1:36 AM, luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: Hi Jörg, - Mail original - De: Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@scalaris.com À: dev@commons.apache.org Envoyé: Lundi 25 Juillet 2011 09:19:36 Objet: Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override Hi Phil, Phil Steitz wrote: On 7/24/11 10:52

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Matt Benson
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Phil Steitz phil.ste...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/25/11 1:36 AM, luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: Hi Jörg, - Mail original - De: Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@scalaris.com À: dev@commons.apache.org Envoyé: Lundi 25 Juillet 2011 09:19:36 Objet: Re: [math]

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 7/25/11 6:55 AM, Torsten Curdt wrote: I am not saying don't use javadocs. It's all about using javadocs effectively. Forcing javadocs on all methods leads to bloat and noise. Better present stellar javadocs on public APIs and document how the library works. Having great examples helps a

Re: [compress] Planning the 1.2 Release

2011-07-25 Thread Gary Gregory
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, given that most discussion has only been started late last week, it has been a bit unorganized and some things have moved during the weekend I'll give it a bit more time to settle. IMHO svn trunk is ready to

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 7/25/11 6:31 AM, Matt Benson wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote: Good code needs little javadocs. I disagree strongly. The Javadoc should present the public API (and should ideally be written before the code - i.e. the code implements the docs).

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Torsten Curdt
Maybe I am working too much in other languages to appreciate the less is more way of coding. Self descriptive code is less a myth but more a state of mind when writing that code and documentation. The problem with that state of mind is that unless and until you clearly specify a contract

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Phil Steitz
On 7/25/11 8:27 AM, Torsten Curdt wrote: Maybe I am working too much in other languages to appreciate the less is more way of coding. Self descriptive code is less a myth but more a state of mind when writing that code and documentation. The problem with that state of mind is that unless and

Re: [math] Inherits doc and @Override

2011-07-25 Thread Matt Benson
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Torsten Curdt tcu...@vafer.org wrote: Maybe I am working too much in other languages to appreciate the less is more way of coding. Self descriptive code is less a myth but more a state of mind when writing that code and documentation. The problem with that

Re: [compress] Planning the 1.2 Release

2011-07-25 Thread sebb
On 25 July 2011 16:23, Gary Gregory ggreg...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:41 AM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, given that most discussion has only been started late last week, it has been a bit unorganized and some things have moved during the weekend I'll

OSCache is gone

2011-07-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hey all, OpenSymphony has closed. Not sure if OSCache has survived. This page recommends OSCache: http://cayenne.apache.org/doc/query-result-caching.html It looks like this project is the follow up: java.net/projects/oscache But it seems also to be rather dead (last commit 4 yrs) Is it time

Re: OSCache is gone

2011-07-25 Thread Matt Benson
Wrong list? ;) Matt On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, OpenSymphony has closed. Not sure if OSCache has survived. This page recommends OSCache: http://cayenne.apache.org/doc/query-result-caching.html It looks like this project is the

Re: OSCache is gone

2011-07-25 Thread Christian Grobmeier
uh yes :-) Sorry for the spam - time to have dinner and grab a beer! On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote: Wrong list?  ;) Matt On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Christian Grobmeier grobme...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, OpenSymphony has closed. Not sure

Re: OSCache is gone

2011-07-25 Thread Ralph Goers
Dinner? It is only 9am in Hawaii. I haven't even had breakfast yet. Ralph On Jul 25, 2011, at 11:30 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: uh yes :-) Sorry for the spam - time to have dinner and grab a beer! On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Matt Benson gudnabr...@gmail.com wrote: Wrong list?

Re: svn commit: r1150496 - /commons/proper/math/trunk/src/test/java/org/apache/commons/math/complex/ComplexTest.java

2011-07-25 Thread Gilles Sadowski
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 07:27:50PM -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: On 7/24/11 2:43 PM, er...@apache.org wrote: Author: erans Date: Sun Jul 24 21:43:08 2011 New Revision: 1150496 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1150496view=rev Log: MATH-632 Added tests referred to in the

Re: [compress] Keep old Javadocs?

2011-07-25 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: On 2011-07-25, luc.maison...@free.fr wrote: If the URL do include the version, then it would be better to keep old version online, to avoid dangling links from external web pages, mail archives or documentation. Good

Re: [Math] Simple benchmarking utility

2011-07-25 Thread Gilles Sadowski
Hello. [...] The idea is to have interleaved calls to the candidate implementations, so that (hopefully) they will be penalized (or benefit) in the same way by what the JVM is doing (GC or JIT compilation or ...) while the benchmark is running. Does this make sense?