Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-22 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 04/20/2014 06:46 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Lukas Zapletal wrote: This is a great change that actually allows other teams that heavily relies on Fedoras to put their software on hold for two Fedora releases. And that's a good thing how? Stale software relying on old compatibility libraries is

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-22 Thread Bill Nottingham
Marcela Mašláňová (mmasl...@redhat.com) said: On 04/14/2014 10:17 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bill Nottingham wrote: Is the intent to only provide SCL versions of the older ruby rails, or also the current versions (i.e., move to SCL as the rails delivery mechanism going forward)? (Assuming we really want to support SCLs at all,) the default version should most definitely NOT be an

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Lukas Zapletal wrote: This is a great change that actually allows other teams that heavily relies on Fedoras to put their software on hold for two Fedora releases. And that's a good thing how? Stale software relying on old compatibility libraries is exactly the opposite of what we want (fast

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-17 Thread Lukas Zapletal
Stupid question: what in rails depends on v8 exactly? Not sure if this has been answered already, but it's the asset pipeline precompilation, a build requirement. -- Later, Lukas lzap Zapletal irc: lzap #theforeman -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-17 Thread Lukas Zapletal
This is a great change that actually allows other teams that heavily relies on Fedoras to put their software on hold for two Fedora releases. Fedora is really a fast moving target and the same for Ruby. Catching up costs lot of effort. This gives us usually one extra release to put things on hold

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-16 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 16:16:42 +0200 Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Ruby

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 15.4.2014 02:07, T.C. Hollingsworth napsal(a): On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: Rails depends on exact v8 version, which means v8 3.14 must have also their own SCL as part of the SCL. Stupid question: what in rails depends on v8 exactly? The only

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 04/14/2014 10:17 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Ruby 1.9.3 with Rails 3.2.8 is still commonly

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 04/15/2014 12:05 AM, Ken Dreyer wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@splat.cc wrote: Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL Change owner(s): Marcela

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 04/15/2014 02:07 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: Rails depends on exact v8 version, which means v8 3.14 must have also their own SCL as part of the SCL. Stupid question: what in rails depends on v8 exactly? The only

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 15.4.2014 10:21, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 15.4.2014 02:07, T.C. Hollingsworth napsal(a): On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: Rails depends on exact v8 version, which means v8 3.14 must have also their own SCL as part of the SCL. Stupid question:

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 15.4.2014 17:14, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 15.4.2014 10:21, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 15.4.2014 02:07, T.C. Hollingsworth napsal(a): On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: Rails depends on exact v8 version, which means v8 3.14 must have also their own

F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-14 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Ruby 1.9.3 with Rails 3.2.8 is still commonly used by many projects. Let's provide Ruby and Rails in SCL even for Fedora. Rails depends

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-14 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Ruby 1.9.3 with Rails 3.2.8 is still commonly used by many projects. Let's provide

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-14 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@splat.cc wrote: Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Ruby 1.9.3 with

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-14 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: Rails depends on exact v8 version, which means v8 3.14 must have also their own SCL as part of the SCL. Stupid question: what in rails depends on v8 exactly? The only thing that Requires v8 in Fedora besides nodejs and

F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-14 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby193_in_SCL Change owner(s): Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Ruby 1.9.3 with Rails 3.2.8 is still commonly used by many projects. Let's provide Ruby and Rails in SCL even for Fedora. Rails depends