Re: [SailfishDevel] System management is locked by the application with pid 5695 (zypper) - Win 7 (behind proxy)

2013-10-15 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 10.10.2013 11:14, Simon Bolek wrote: I am behind the Proxy and already set up the http_proxy in global variables like: http://user:password@host:port When I try to manage-find a package e.g. ofono, i get: +++ NoMethodError at /C/targets/add undefined method `include?' for nil:NilClass

Re: [SailfishDevel] Packaging for harbour

2013-11-12 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Hi Luciano, some answers below. On 12.11.2013 11:54, Luciano Montanaro wrote: I would like to submit my application for review, but I probably need to do some cleanup: Has the icon size changed to 86x86? If so I will need to update it with the new size. Yes icon size is supposed to be

Re: [SailfishDevel] Problems with the emulator (I think)

2013-11-17 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Hi Lauri, you don't mention which SDK installer you have used. That would be vital information in troubleshooting this and any future problems :-) None of the problems below seem to concern the SDK emulator. I believe these are build time problems? On 16.11.2013 12:42, Lavanti Lauri wrote:

Re: [SailfishDevel] Fwd: Massive issues while installing SailfishOS IDE

2013-11-22 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 22.11.2013 12:58, Kajetan Dobczyk wrote: After the IDE installation: - There's no Sailfish project option in File - New File or Project, although Mer is checked in Help - About Plugins - In Tools - Options - Mer, when I click Start Emulator, nothing happens, either in SailfishOS

Re: [SailfishDevel] Fwd: Massive issues while installing SailfishOS IDE

2013-11-25 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 23.11.2013 18:12, Gabriel Böhme wrote: Hi, I have the same problem with the SailfishOS IDE in Windows 7 and guess special chars and/or spaces causes the issues. The main folder is C:/SailfishOS and also my projects are in C:/SailfishOS/projects, but the SailfishAlpha2 folder in AppData is

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Update] Changelog for SailfishOS update 1 (1.0.1.10)

2013-12-11 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Hi Seppo, if you have developer mode activated, then you probably also have Fingerterm. Could you please start it and check that you haven't accidentally changed the ssu settings? You can check this by opening fingerterm and entering: ssu domain If it says the domain is something else than

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Update] Changelog for SailfishOS update 1 (1.0.1.10)

2013-12-11 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 11.12.2013 14:30, Juha Kallioinen wrote: For more real-time assitance you could join #sailfishos channel in ircNET and ask for help there. It's also ok to ask questions on this mailing list. Argh, #sailfishos is of course in Freenode network and not in ircnet. Sorry gor the brainfart

Re: [SailfishDevel] Building/Deploying app fails with 1312 SDK

2013-12-13 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 13.12.2013 20:02, superpelican wrote: Hello, I just completely removed my old SDK with the SDK Maintenance tool (and also removed $HOME/.scratchbox2 as the installer of the new SDK version suggested, I also removed the Mer SDK VM and Emulator VM of the old SDK version in the Virtualbox

Re: [SailfishDevel] Quickfix for SailfishOS SDK available today.

2013-12-17 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Hi, this Qt Creator fix will be available only as an update to the 1312 installer. We won't make another complete installer because of this. Best regards, Juha On 17.12.2013 10:22, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi Jarko Super, I am very glad this was given priority. Can you confirm,

Re: [SailfishDevel] Quickfix for SailfishOS SDK available today.

2013-12-17 Thread Juha Kallioinen
the error The hash of one component does not match the expected one and Could not download meta information for component: org.merproject.tools. Error: Bad hash. I am running 1312 on OSX Chris Zitat von Juha Kallioinen juha.kallioi...@jolla.com: Hi, this Qt Creator fix will be available only

Re: [SailfishDevel] Harbour: Rejections clarify

2014-01-03 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 03.01.2014 00:02, Mikael Hermansson wrote: But It seems to me Required field in yaml file should not be used is that the case? Please clarify this? No it can and should be used, but only with requirements that are allowed. I can't comment on whether the list of allowed dependencies is

Re: [SailfishDevel] MerSDK VM - src folder change (under Windows) not possible

2014-01-15 Thread Juha Kallioinen
. Apparently only complete removal and new installation helps. thanks+br simon :-) On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Juha Kallioinen juha.kallioi...@jolla.com mailto:juha.kallioi...@jolla.com wrote: Hi Simon, if you want to get rid of your old settings, clean the Qt creator config

Re: [SailfishDevel] Project Kits lost on Target Refresh

2014-01-21 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 21.01.2014 09:17, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi All If I do a QtCreator / SailfishOS/ Targets / Manage Targets / Target / Manage / Sync, with project(s) open in QtCreator, then I lose the kits of the open project(s), and have to re-add these. Hi Chris, yes it's an unfortunate

Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK January update 2 available today

2014-01-28 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Hello, another minor update to the SDK Build Engine was released today. The update concerns again only the SDK Control Center, which gets some performance improvements, layout changes and provides a Check for updates now button in the Updates page. You should see updates available for the

Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK January update 2 available today

2014-01-28 Thread Juha Kallioinen
try a few seconds later, the update worked properly. Chris Zitat von Juha Kallioinen juha.kallioi...@jolla.com: Hello, another minor update to the SDK Build Engine was released today. The update concerns again only the SDK Control Center, which gets some performance improvements, layout

Re: [SailfishDevel] Different behavior when starting application from QtCreator or Launcher

2014-01-30 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 30.01.2014 11:21, Luciano Montanaro wrote: Hello everybody, maybe someone may shed some light on this odd behavior: I have implemented an active cover in my train timetable application, where the action is enabled when a certain property in a C++ object (a string) has a length different from

Re: [SailfishDevel] SDK update

2014-02-03 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 02.02.2014 21:44, Dmitry wrote: Hi. I have Mer VM and emulator version 2013.10.18-0 installed on Windows, will VM disk image will be overwriten during update to 2013.12.10-1 and i loose everything installed in VM? Hi Dmitry, yes that is how the update is done at the moment. Same goes

Re: [SailfishDevel] Update SDK Virtual Machines to 1.0.3.8 Naamankajärvi

2014-02-07 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Hi Harald, the SDK virtual machines/targets have not yet been updated to the latest device release level. What you have now is the latest SDK stuff that's out there. Best regards, Juha On 07.02.2014 12:42, Harald Schmitt wrote: Hi, probably it is a dump question, but I updated the sdk

Re: [SailfishDevel] HowTo debug from inside the IDE an application?

2014-02-27 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Hi, sorry but with the current SDK it is not possible to use gdb from IDE. That scratchbox2 message is not relevant, since gdb would be run from the host and not from inside the build machine. We're working hard to get a new SDK release out, but can't give a date yet. Best regards, Juha

Re: [SailfishDevel] [Update] Changelog for SailfishOS update 4 (1.0.4.20)

2014-03-17 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 18.03.2014 00:14, Dmitry wrote: Hi, will SDK be updated? Hi Dmitry, we're not ready with the SDK update yet, but we're working on it. The current SDK can still be used to create software for this SailfishOS release. Best regards, Juha ___

Re: [SailfishDevel] Changelog in rpm

2014-04-10 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 10.04.2014 10:50, k...@foder.dk wrote: Hi Do you know how I can add a changelog file to the RPM package from the creator (like we did in the Harmattan SDK), and how it should be formatted ? Hi Kim, short answer: no. Longer answer: There's no direct support for changelogs in Qt Creator

Re: [SailfishDevel] Warning: File `Makefile' has modification time 0.51 s in the future

2014-04-14 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 14.04.2014 16:49, Chris Walker wrote: Physician heal thyself! I installed the ntp client and it now picks up network time. I'm assuming therefore that there is some time 'slip' between the host machine and VBox. I now get loads of warnings which again, I haven't seen before such as these :-

Re: [SailfishDevel] After April SDK Update Existing App fails on RPM deploy to Jolla Device: Possible rights problem

2014-04-16 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 16.04.2014 15:39, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi All ... I also get the white screen when trying to open the app. Via SSH on the jolla device I can find the file is present: [nemo@Jolla javascript]$ pwd /usr/share/landed26_QT5/qml/javascript [nemo@Jolla javascript]$ ls -ahl total

Re: [SailfishDevel] After April SDK Update Existing App fails on RPM deploy to Jolla Device: Possible rights problem

2014-04-16 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 16.04.2014 16:19, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Zitat von Juha Kallioinen juha.kallioi...@jolla.com: Hi Juha On my host the access permissions were apple-pip:javascript christopherlamb$ cd /Users/christopherlamb/QTProjects/landed/landed26_QT5/landed26_QT5/qml/javascript apple

Re: [SailfishDevel] maces sdk issue

2014-04-17 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 16.04.2014 19:52, Nicola De Filippo wrote: Hi, updating the sdk on MacOS i have 2 issue: 1) when the maintenance tool execute/usr/bin/VBoxManage createvm --name MerSDK --register --basefolder /Users/nicola/SailfishOS/mersdk and i resolved removing MerSDK.vbox and pressing retry in the

Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK April update available tomorrow. [update:all installers and repositories are online]

2014-04-17 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 16.04.2014 23:01, Mikael Hermansson wrote: I don't know if this is related to just kubuntu or just a VMissue since the sailfishemulator does not work. I just get the kernel message but sailfishUI does not start. More exactly lipstick does not start. I can login via ssh and try start lipstick

Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK April update available tomorrow. [update:all installers and repositories are online]

2014-04-17 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 17.04.2014 11:02, Iosif Hamlatzis wrote: Has anyone noticed that the link (at least for Windows) on the main page of https://sailfishos.org/ is the old one http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/installers/1312/SailfishOSSDK-Alpha-1312-Qt5-windows-offline.exe (SDK Release Alpha 1312 is out

Re: [SailfishDevel] OSX sdk issue (was maces sdk issue)

2014-04-17 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 17.04.2014 12:08, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Note on OSX, even if you do a clean uninstall reinstall as recommended in the release notes, the old SDK and Emulator VMS are not deleted. However this is not a real problem, the installer installs the new VMs next to the old, and the

Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK April update available tomorrow. [update:all installers and repositories are online]

2014-04-17 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 17.04.2014 23:55, Mikael Hermansson wrote: Reinstall from scratch did not solve the issue. I guess kubuntu 14.04 have to be blacklisted for now since emulator don't work :/ Let me know if someone else got similar issues. Btw. the touchpointer is shown. Hi, I installed ubuntu 14.04 (not

Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK April update available tomorrow. [update:all installers and repositories are online]

2014-04-18 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 18.04.2014 03:09, Juha Kallioinen wrote: Hi, I installed ubuntu 14.04 (not KDE) to my Mac vmware Fusion and the SDK into that - I'm seeing the same problem here now. What's your host machine and how do you run the SDK in it? I'm just trying to collect more info to figure out what's common

Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK April update available tomorrow. [update:all installers and repositories are online]

2014-04-18 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 18.04.2014 14:35, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi Juha and Mikael For what it is worth, to kill some time while a batch of beer is brewing, I installed Kubuntu 14.04 in a VM, and then the April SDK. In my case the Emulator does work in Kubuntu 14.04 - though it does take

Re: [SailfishDevel] Qt Kits broken on Windows?

2014-04-22 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Hi Gabriel, sorry to hear about the problems. Although we are aware of problems with whitespace and special chars, there's no easy solution in sight. We'll have to put more effort into finding a solution for this problem. Unfortunately there's no file that points to the deploy command. It's

Re: [SailfishDevel] SDK 1404 and translations

2014-04-22 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 22.04.2014 16:47, Luca Donaggio wrote: Did I hit a bug with the newly added translations support? This two lines in .pro (I just changed the lang code in standard .pro file created by sialfishapp/qtquick app wizard) file: CONFIG += sailfishapp_i18n TRANSLATIONS +=

Re: [SailfishDevel] Qt Kits broken on Windows?

2014-04-22 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 22.04.2014 16:55, Gabriel Böhme wrote: Hi Juha, first of all - thanks for your fast answer! Secondary: it's not a big problem in my case, cause my main system is Linux and there is everything working fine. Also creating another user in Windows, may not be perfect, but also not too much

Re: [SailfishDevel] Qt Kits broken on Windows?

2014-04-23 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 22.04.2014 16:55, Gabriel Böhme wrote: Hi Juha, first of all - thanks for your fast answer! Secondary: it's not a big problem in my case, cause my main system is Linux and there is everything working fine. Also creating another user in Windows, may not be perfect, but also not too much

Re: [SailfishDevel] Warnings shown as errors

2014-05-07 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 06.05.2014 20:38, Iosif Hamlatzis wrote: Just updated to the latest SDK (1404 16 April 2014) and what I've noticed is that all warnings are shown as errors, at least the icons. Under the previous version of QtCreator I could select to display only errors or include warnings as well by

Re: [SailfishDevel] QML creates a Segfault

2014-05-13 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 13.05.2014 14:00, Matthias Barmeier wrote: Hi, when trying to download data in a WorkerScript thread I got this: bash: line 1: 1459 Segmentation fault QT_NO_JOURNALD_LOG=1 DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/CalDav Can somebody explain if I can avoid this or what the reason is ? That script part

Re: [SailfishDevel] Follow up on Warnings shown as errors

2014-05-21 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 21.05.2014 09:04, Iosif Hamlatzis wrote: As I haven't gotten a response I am coming back to the issue: After updating to the latest SDK on a Windows XP Pro with SP3 all warnings and errors have the same icon a red triangle. Pressing the button on the QtCreator IDE to display all or only

Re: [SailfishDevel] Screenshots in silica reference

2014-05-23 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 23.05.2014 08:21, Kimmo Lindholm wrote: Hi, I so would like to see screenshots in silica reference. Like there is on common pitfails -page. -kimmo I'll use this as an opportunity to mention that the Components Gallery application which comes pre-installed in the SDK emulator has

Re: [SailfishDevel] Follow up on Warnings shown as errors

2014-05-26 Thread Juha Kallioinen
that no icon is displayed on the line with the error. I know the usage of #error is not exactly the same as having an actual compile error, but it was the fastest way to reproduce the problem. On 21 May 2014 12:25, Juha Kallioinen juha.kallioi...@jolla.com mailto:juha.kallioi...@jolla.com wrote

Re: [SailfishDevel] sporadic bouts of Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.

2014-06-02 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 28.04.2014 09:01, christopher.l...@thurweb.ch wrote: Hi Thanks. I found a well hidden {1} timeout setting in the preferences / devices and increased this from the default 2 secs to 10 secs. This does seem to help, but as always with sporadic problems only time will tell if this is a fix,

Re: [SailfishDevel] sporadic bouts of Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. Timeout waiting for reply from server.

2014-06-03 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Hi Christopher, the changing networks may play a part in this problem. Did I already sometime earlier ask you to modify your Mac's /etc/hosts file? It has helped in some cases to add the name for the MerSDK virtual machine to /etc/hosts like this: 127.0.0.1 SailfishSDK Or if you already

[SailfishDevel] Sailfish OS SDK June update available today 13:00 UTC

2014-06-12 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Hello again, Today (June 12th) at 13:00 UTC we will publish new installers and package repositories for our Sailfish OS SDK version Alpha-1406-Qt5. If you already have an existing Alpha-Qt5 SDK installed you should see the Updates Available icon in Qt Creator. If you don't have a previous

Re: [SailfishDevel] problem with SDK version 5 June 2014

2014-06-13 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 12.06.2014 20:35, Iosif Hamlatzis wrote: I uninstalled previous SDK and did a clean installation of the latest SDK (SailfishOSSDK-Alpha-1406-Qt5-windows-offline.exe) under Windows XP SP3 Compilation now fails with error: error: Failed build dependencies: pkgconfig(sdl2) is needed by

Re: [SailfishDevel] Prototype 'TextBaseItem' from 'TextBase' could not be resolved (M301)

2014-06-16 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 13.06.2014 11:01, i...@flyingfischer.ch wrote: Hello The IDE gives me en error on the TextField element. I couldn't find anything to resolve it. Thank you for your inputs! Markus [Translated to english from the german error message:] Prototype 'TextBaseItem' from 'TextBase' could not be

Re: [SailfishDevel] Cover Page Image

2014-06-16 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 13.06.2014 21:16, Chris Walker wrote: Is this relevant to my problem above? I don't see how, but you never know! error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/share/scratchbox2/modes/sdk-build: cpio: rename failed - Is a directory This was from an attempted update after the above

Re: [SailfishDevel] Prototype 'TextBaseItem' from 'TextBase' could not be resolved (M301)

2014-06-17 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 16.06.2014 19:18, i...@flyingfischer.ch wrote: Thanks for the information! The import statement makes the TextField error disappear. But the other errors remain (process:957): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to open file '/etc/dconf/db/vendor': /etc/dconf/db/vendor: invalid gvdb header;

Re: [SailfishDevel] Cover Page Image

2014-06-19 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 19.06.2014 15:49, Chris Walker wrote: I bit the bullet and did an uninstall and a full reinstall having deleted the SailfishAlpha folder in my home folder directory structure. I'm now seeing lots of these errors in a Konsole window however :- kfilemodule(15749)

Re: [SailfishDevel] Recent update improvements?

2014-06-23 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 23.06.2014 16:38, Chris Walker wrote: What was the reason for 'improving' the Emulator? By improvement, I mean that there is now only one option and that is to shut it down rather than saving the state? I consider that to be a right PITA. The reason was to prevent accidental state savings.

Re: [SailfishDevel] Recent update improvements?

2014-06-23 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 23.06.2014 18:52, Chris Walker wrote: On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:51:17 +0300 Juha Kallioinen juha.kallioi...@jolla.com wrote: On 23.06.2014 16:38, Chris Walker wrote: What was the reason for 'improving' the Emulator? By improvement, I mean that there is now only one option and that is to shut

Re: [SailfishDevel] Cannot open projects after updating SDK

2014-06-25 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 25.06.2014 00:21, Matthias Barmeier wrote: Hi, after updating my SDK I cannot open my projects any more. QtCreator shows a message saying that no kits are available. Does anyone know how to fix this ? Hi, you could try removing the old configuration files and see if that helps. I

Re: [SailfishDevel] Debug issue from inside the QtCreator IDE

2014-07-09 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 09.07.2014 16:15, Iosif Hamlatzis wrote: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t6wsbj6sohyq8wd/debug.png My system is WindowsXP SP3 and I am using the QtCreator IDE to deploy my game and hopefully debug it. As you can see from the screenshot (above link) the build and deploy process succeeds (both

Re: [SailfishDevel] Failed to load platform plugin xcb.

2014-07-14 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 12.07.2014 21:10, Jukka Heikkilä wrote: Hi folks! During developing my program I have mostly used Emulator to run the app and sometimes also real device and testing has been worked fine on both. Now I faced the next problem with real device. When I press run from Qt Creator, it will

Re: [SailfishDevel] Failed to load platform plugin xcb.

2014-07-14 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 14.07.2014 10:33, Jukka Heikkilä wrote: Hi, no. I don't think that I have installed any other bash versions, but bash ---versions gives: GNU bash, versio 4.3.0(1)-release (armv7l-unknown-linux-gnueabi) Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Lisenssi GPLv3+: GNU GPL versio 3 tai

Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK install to /opt

2014-07-14 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 12.07.2014 11:02, Marcin M. wrote: Why do the mersdk/MerSDK and emulator/SailfishOS Emulator directories have 700 permissions? It makes the VMs unaccesible. Those folder rights are correct. 700 means that the user has full read-write-exec rights to the directories. The SDK works only for a

Re: [SailfishDevel] Could not resolve the prototype ‘TextBaseItem’ of ‘TextBase’. (M301)

2014-07-14 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 11.07.2014 23:26, Andrey Kozhevnikov wrote: This is not error and just warning, and you can ignore it and continue developing. That's correct. It's a warning from Qt Creator that it cannot provide the code completion suggestions for that class. It is a problem with the metadata that is

Re: [SailfishDevel] SailfishOS SDK install to /opt

2014-07-14 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 14.07.2014 11:13, Marcin M. wrote: Forgot to tell: the user owning it is root (who owns the whole /opt/SailfishOS)... If installed to /home, works correctly. Ok that was the problem. You can still install it under /opt as long as you first create the install dir manually and then set

[SailfishDevel] Sailfish OS SDK July update available tomorrow 12:00 UTC

2014-07-14 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Hello again, Tomorrow (July 15th) at 12:00 UTC we will publish new installers and package repositories for our Sailfish OS SDK version Alpha-1407-Qt5. If you already have an existing Alpha-Qt5 SDK installed you should see the Updates Available icon in Qt Creator. If you don't have a previous

Re: [SailfishDevel] QTcreator.exe

2014-07-16 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 18.06.2014 12:47, Vesa Arttijeff wrote: Hi, I installed Sallfish SDK (SailfishOSSDK-Alpha-1406-Qt5-windows-offline) to my Windows 8. I have Norton Antivirus on my machine. Please check the attached document (as Word /ODT). Norton detected something weird in qtcreator.exe file. Is it

Re: [SailfishDevel] Fwd: QtCreator issues

2014-07-16 Thread Juha Kallioinen
Hi, sorry to hear that. Did the previous version 1406 or some earlier version work for you in the same host? Please send core dump to me and if you could also provide an strace log of starting Qt Creator: $ strace -o output.log -s 512 installdir/bin/qtcreator Also please mention which

Re: [SailfishDevel] Fwd: QtCreator issues

2014-07-17 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 17.07.2014 00:41, Stijn Devriendt wrote: Hi Juha, Been debugging a bit more until I got this: Breakpoint 1, 0x7fffeb54bd40 in QTime::QTime(int, int, int, int)@plt () from /usr/lib64/libkdecore.so.5 (gdb) bt #0 0x7fffeb54bd40 in QTime::QTime(int, int, int, int)@plt () from

Re: [SailfishDevel] Error in linker

2014-08-18 Thread Juha Kallioinen
On 17.08.2014 01:33, Tone Kastlunger wrote: To whom it might concern: just encountered the following error : /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: Errors encountered processing file moc_debotadbusservicehandler.o /opt/cross/bin/armv7hl-meego-linux-gnueabi-ld: cannot size stub