Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-03-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:31:18PM +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Sven Luther wrote: I don't really agree here, modes are for the outgoing resolution, not the input viewport. it would be far simpler to keep this simple acceptation, and add a new keyword for

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-03-07 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 12:31:18PM +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Sven Luther wrote: I don't really agree here, modes are for the outgoing resolution, not the input viewport. it would be far simpler to keep this simple

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-03-07 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2003-03-07 at 14:48, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Sven Luther wrote: I wonder how the driver knows what the laptop display size is ? do you specify or does the monitor tell the driver about it with ddc ? The driver gets it from the graphics chip. DDC info on

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-03-06 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 12:27:41PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:41:50AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: I strongly advocate that you take in account such separation of the outgoing resolution and the framebuffer size in any future configuration scheme. We already

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-03-06 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 07:01:35PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 12:27:41PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:41:50AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: I strongly advocate that you take in account such separation of the outgoing resolution and the framebuffer

Re: Multiple Video Consoles

2003-03-05 Thread Alex Deucher
Jonathan, could you also post your XF86Config file? I have some ideas on how to extend this. It's still kind of a hack, but here goes: add an option to the radeon driver, say MergedFB or something like that. when that option is set to TRUE, it would skip the sections of code that you have

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-03-04 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:46:40PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: 2) a way to tell the framebuffer/viewport sizes for each supported resolution, something like : SubSection Display Mode 1024x768 Viewport 0 0 1024 768 Viewport 0 0 800 600 Viewport 0 0 640 480

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-03-03 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 11:28:24PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 10:34:20AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:19:37PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: Are you speaking about the current 4.3.0 or the stuff you are working on ? What I was working on. Ok,

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-03-03 Thread David Dawes
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 10:31:56AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 11:28:24PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 10:34:20AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:19:37PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: Are you speaking about the current 4.3.0 or the

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-03-02 Thread David Dawes
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 10:34:20AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:19:37PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: Are you speaking about the current 4.3.0 or the stuff you are working on ? What I was working on. Ok, ... I take it, there will be a 4.4.0 before 5.0 ? Most likely.

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-03-02 Thread David Dawes
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 10:52:08AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:19:37PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 09:04:06PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Are you speaking about the current 4.3.0 or the stuff you are working on ? What I was working on. BTW, is the

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-03-01 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:19:37PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: Are you speaking about the current 4.3.0 or the stuff you are working on ? What I was working on. Ok, ... I take it, there will be a 4.4.0 before 5.0 ? Well, i am not sure i follow you completely here, but my interrest in

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-03-01 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 04:19:37PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 09:04:06PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: Are you speaking about the current 4.3.0 or the stuff you are working on ? What I was working on. BTW, is the stuff you were working on accessible on a CVS branch or

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-03-01 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Sven Luther wrote: That said, another thing that would be nice, would be the possibility to specify one display section for every depth, instead of just copying it for each supported depth. Do many people in these times of 64+Mo of onboard memory specify different

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-28 Thread David Dawes
On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 10:11:34AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: BTW, Dawes, what are the plans for post 4.3.0 XFree86 ? This kind of thing would most assuredly go into the thinking about 5.x, but some of the stuff here, and about the dual-head/one FB (which would allow DRI on dual head cards) could

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:59:48AM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 10:11:34AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: BTW, Dawes, what are the plans for post 4.3.0 XFree86 ? This kind of thing would most assuredly go into the thinking about 5.x, but some of the stuff here, and about the

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-28 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 02:06:35PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:27:20PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:59:48AM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 10:11:34AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: BTW, Dawes, what are the plans for post 4.3.0

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-28 Thread David Dawes
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 09:04:06PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 02:06:35PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:27:20PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 11:59:48AM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Thu, Feb 27, 2003 at 10:11:34AM +0100, Sven

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-28 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Fre, 2003-02-28 at 21:04, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 02:06:35PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:27:20PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: BTW, is it normal that SDL games requesting 640x480 try to set it even if i did only specify 1024x768 in the monitor

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:40:18PM -0500, David Dawes wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:25:21PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:27:50PM +0200, Yitzhak Bar Geva wrote: Greatly encouraged by your response, thanks! Someone reported that X works with the multi-head

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 05:12:32PM -0600, jkjellman wrote: Absolutely right, but ... This can be done if two servers are used. The point I was making earlier in this thread was that used hacked kernels and servers are a bad thing. If two consoles (including keyboards) could be operated on

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-27 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 10:47:39PM +, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: How do you imagine this would work when both head are using a shared accel (XAA or DRI) engine ? I thought that the whole point of the kernel DRI was to stop multiple apps from fighting over the hardware. If the X server

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-27 Thread Aivils . Stoss
Hi, all Long time I maintain Linux 2.4.XX kernel tree , wich support multiple consoles. Ground priciple: linus tree kernel has 64 virtual consoles == virtual terminal. All 64 accessible by one user. Tuned 2.4.XX-backstreet-ruby kernel has same 64 virtual consoles but one user can use only

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-26 Thread jkjellman
Yitzhak, I too am interested in this. I have only seen ":hacks" that require two X servers (one normal and one modified) plus a modified kernel. This is not a very pretty sight to say the least. Please copy myself if you receive any "private" replies as it sounds like we are looking for

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-26 Thread Dr Andrew C Aitchison
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Yitzhak Bar Geva wrote: What is the status of simultaneous multiple video console operation for full multiuser X on one machine? Someone reported that X works with the multi-head console support in Linux 2.5 kernels. As far as I am concerned, that is the right way to go:

RE: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-26 Thread Yitzhak Bar Geva
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Multiple video consoles On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Yitzhak Bar Geva wrote: What is the status of simultaneous multiple video console operation for full multiuser X on one machine? Someone reported that X works with the multi-head console support in Linux 2.5 kernels. As far as I

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 06:40:07PM +, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Yitzhak Bar Geva wrote: What is the status of simultaneous multiple video console operation for full multiuser X on one machine? Someone reported that X works with the multi-head console support

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:27:50PM +0200, Yitzhak Bar Geva wrote: Greatly encouraged by your response, thanks! Someone reported that X works with the multi-head console support in Linux 2.5 kernels. I did some searching for multi-head consoles under 2.5 kernel, but didn't see anything. I

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-26 Thread jkjellman
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 2:25 PM Subject: Re: Multiple video consoles On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:27:50PM +0200, Yitzhak Bar Geva wrote: Greatly encouraged by your response, thanks! Someone reported that X works with the multi-head console support in Linux 2.5 kernels. I

Re: Multiple video consoles

2003-02-26 Thread David Dawes
On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:25:21PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2003 at 09:27:50PM +0200, Yitzhak Bar Geva wrote: Greatly encouraged by your response, thanks! Someone reported that X works with the multi-head console support in Linux 2.5 kernels. I did some searching for