On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 14:44 -0400, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote:
On 03/20/2013 07:23 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 09:27 +0100, Christof Damian wrote:
Fixing them now will benefit all future releases and all the people
living in non pure ASCII countries.
∄ pure ASCII
On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 09:17:46 +0100,
David Woodhouse dw...@infradead.org wrote:
I see you're a Thunderbird user. Does it have the same option that
Evolution does, to ignore abusive Reply-To: settings on mailing lists?
If you use maildrop filtering, you can have it strip reply-to headers
On Qui, 2013-03-28 at 21:22 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Adam Williamson wrote:
Of course not, but that's kinda different. In the one case, the long
slip bought us an entirely rewritten installer. In this case, any
potential slip buys us...a prettified release name. Gee, willikers,
watch
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:28:49 +0100
eduard.vopicka eduard.vopi...@seznam.cz wrote:
Hello.
I think it is really time for some authority to decide ASAP, taking
into account that this is now (proposed) alpha blocker bug and the
scope of the overall fix is still unknown.
I could not resist,
On 18/03/13 10:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:56:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 +
Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
Hi,
For the first time, Fedora release name have
Le Mar 19 mars 2013 02:24, Chris Murphy a écrit :
And is fixing this apostrophe issue going to have some clear benefit
anywhere else?
Fixing an apostrophe – no
Fixing our UTF-8 handling – definitely yes
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On 03/19/2013 02:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Well, look, my point is that sometimes our commitment to 'fixing things
the right way' appears to verge on bloody masochism.
snip
If we have to compromise on just papering it over for Alpha, I mean,
_fine_. But seriously: sometimes papering it
On 19 March 2013 08:30, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
Le Mar 19 mars 2013 02:24, Chris Murphy a écrit :
And is fixing this apostrophe issue going to have some clear benefit
anywhere else?
Fixing an apostrophe – no
Fixing our UTF-8 handling – definitely yes
I expected
On 19/03/13 01:04 AM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
On 03/19/2013 02:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Well, look, my point is that sometimes our commitment to 'fixing things
the right way' appears to verge on bloody masochism.
snip
If we have to compromise on just papering it over for Alpha, I mean,
On 19/03/13 01:27 AM, Christof Damian wrote:
I see it as a good thing, the problems we find are usually real bugs
that just haven't been discovered yet.
Sure. But it's a question of priorities. A shortage of bugs to work on
is one the very few problems with which Fedora developers do _not_
- Original Message -
On 18/03/13 10:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:56:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 +
Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
Hi,
For the first
Dne 19.3.2013 04:05, Chris Murphy napsal(a):
On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
If we do, shouldn't there be another vote asking if it's okay to make this
change, in light of the possible release delay?
Definitely not. There is equivalent that
On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 10:01 +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 19.3.2013 04:05, Chris Murphy napsal(a):
On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
If we do, shouldn't there be another vote asking if it's okay to make this
change, in light of the possible
On 03/19/13 01:56, Adam Williamson wrote:
This bug just *smells* like one of those which will pop up again and
again and again causing carnage wherever it shows up.
Shouldn't be worse than F18 where we slipped how many weeks? Or was it
even months in the end?
cheers,
Gerd
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- Original Message -
On 03/19/13 01:56, Adam Williamson wrote:
This bug just *smells* like one of those which will pop up again
and
again and again causing carnage wherever it shows up.
Shouldn't be worse than F18 where we slipped how many weeks? Or was
it
even months in the
On 19 March 2013 08:04, G.Wolfe Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/19/2013 02:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Well, look, my point is that sometimes our commitment to 'fixing things
the right way' appears to verge on bloody masochism.
snip
If we have to compromise on just papering it
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 01:31:30AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On 19/03/13 01:04 AM, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote:
On 03/19/2013 02:11 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Well, look, my point is that sometimes our commitment to 'fixing things
the right way' appears to verge on bloody masochism.
snip
If
On Tuesday 19 March 2013 09:27:16 Christof Damian wrote:
Fixing an apostrophe – no
Fixing our UTF-8 handling – definitely yes
The issue here is not only about the Fedora's release name rather than fixing
our UTF-8 handling. Sounds like an important bug to fix, at least to me
Fixing them
Le Mar 19 mars 2013 09:31, Adam Williamson a écrit :
I don't object at all to fixing UTF-8 issues, but it seems needlessly
stressful to force ourselves to do so as a part of release validation,
with booby traps exploding all around us. It's the kind of thing that
can easily be worked on in a
On 19 March 2013 11:03, Marc Deop i Argemí m...@marcdeop.com wrote:
On Tuesday 19 March 2013 09:27:16 Christof Damian wrote:
Fixing an apostrophe – no
Umlaut, not apostrophe.
Fixing our UTF-8 handling – definitely yes
The issue here is not only about the Fedora's release name rather
Le Mar 19 mars 2013 11:38, Ian Malone a écrit :
and holding up the release for what is basically a triviality seems a
bit silly.
The perception correct UTF-8 handling is a triviality that should be
worked on at some later date is the reason we have this breakage now.
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Le Mar 19 mars 2013 09:27, Christof Damian a écrit :
On 19 March 2013 08:30, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net
wrote:
Le Mar 19 mars 2013 02:24, Chris Murphy a écrit :
And is fixing this apostrophe issue going to have some clear benefit
anywhere else?
Fixing an apostrophe – no
On 19 March 2013 11:24, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
Le Mar 19 mars 2013 11:38, Ian Malone a écrit :
and holding up the release for what is basically a triviality seems a
bit silly.
The perception correct UTF-8 handling is a triviality that should be
worked on at some
Le Mar 19 mars 2013 12:27, Ian Malone a écrit :
On 19 March 2013 11:24, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net
wrote:
Le Mar 19 mars 2013 11:38, Ian Malone a écrit :
and holding up the release for what is basically a triviality seems a
bit silly.
The perception correct UTF-8
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 23:56 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
Could we consider change release name from Schrödinger's Cat to
Schrodingers Cat or other name that not have this additional
problem ?
In my opinion, it makes sense to distinguish between code and content.
When compared with 10-15 years
Dne 19.3.2013 12:23, Ian Malone napsal(a):
On 19 March 2013 11:03, Marc Deop i Argemí m...@marcdeop.com wrote:
On Tuesday 19 March 2013 09:27:16 Christof Damian wrote:
Fixing an apostrophe – no
Umlaut, not apostrophe.
Schrödinger*'*s Cat
I tried to visualize the apostrophe, but it's not
On 19 March 2013 11:41, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
Le Mar 19 mars 2013 12:27, Ian Malone a écrit :
On 19 March 2013 11:24, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net
wrote:
Le Mar 19 mars 2013 11:38, Ian Malone a écrit :
and holding up the release for what is
On 19 March 2013 12:20, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote:
Dne 19.3.2013 12:23, Ian Malone napsal(a):
On 19 March 2013 11:03, Marc Deop i Argemí m...@marcdeop.com wrote:
On Tuesday 19 March 2013 09:27:16 Christof Damian wrote:
Fixing an apostrophe – no
Umlaut, not apostrophe.
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Kai Engert k...@kuix.de wrote:
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 23:56 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
Could we consider change release name from Schrödinger's Cat to
Schrodingers Cat or other name that not have this additional
problem ?
In my opinion, it makes sense to
Once upon a time, G.Wolfe Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com said:
I disagree. This particular problem points out a problem that is only
going to become more of a problem as the internationalization of
software increases. Not everything is ASCII or English, and not
defensively programming for such
- Original Message -
Once upon a time, G.Wolfe Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com said:
I disagree. This particular problem points out a problem that is
only
going to become more of a problem as the internationalization of
software increases. Not everything is ASCII or English, and not
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
- Original Message -
Once upon a time, G.Wolfe Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com said:
submit a Feature and do proper testing/bug fixing/etc. for a future
release (if and when another name with non ASCII alphanumeric
characters
is chosen).
+1!
Jaroslav
What do
On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 12:23 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le Mar 19 mars 2013 09:31, Adam Williamson a écrit :
I don't object at all to fixing UTF-8 issues, but it seems needlessly
stressful to force ourselves to do so as a part of release validation,
with booby traps exploding all
From: Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com
An interesting question is: Why don't we try out the new release name
early on in Rawhide. ie. we would change the release name now to
whatever F20 is going to be + (Rawhide). Wouldn't that give us a
lot more time to test and fix?
That seems
Kai Engert wrote:
The Fedora release name is part of the code
Is it? What is its technical function then? What would break if two
releases were to have the same name but different numbers? Are programs
supposed to compare release names to determine which release they're
looking at? All
On 19 Mar 2013 14:33, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
From: Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com
An interesting question is: Why don't we try out the new release name
early on in Rawhide. ie. we would change the release name now to
whatever F20 is going to be + (Rawhide). Wouldn't that
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 23:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On 18/03/13 10:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:56:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 +
Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 10:47 AM, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 23:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On 18/03/13 10:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:56:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin
On 19/03/13 02:22 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
On 03/19/13 01:56, Adam Williamson wrote:
This bug just *smells* like one of those which will pop up again and
again and again causing carnage wherever it shows up.
Shouldn't be worse than F18 where we slipped how many weeks? Or was it
even months
- Original Message -
On 19 Mar 2013 14:33, john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
From: Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com
An interesting question is: Why don't we try out the new release
name
early on in Rawhide. ie. we would change the release name now to
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 01:08:35PM -, Paul Flo Williams wrote:
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
- Original Message -
Once upon a time, G.Wolfe Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com said:
submit a Feature and do proper testing/bug fixing/etc. for a future
release (if and when another name with non
2013/3/19 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com
I'm voting for ☃.
What about ?
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On 19/03/13 08:30 AM, Peter Robinson wrote:
On 19 Mar 2013 14:33, john.flor...@dart.biz
mailto:john.flor...@dart.biz wrote:
From: Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com
mailto:rjo...@redhat.com
An interesting question is: Why don't we try out the new release name
early on in
How about spending time and energy on fixing the bugs rather then bike
shed over whether we should apply a duct tape or not?
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Once upon a time, drago01 drag...@gmail.com said:
How about spending time and energy on fixing the bugs rather then bike
shed over whether we should apply a duct tape or not?
The problem is that there are possibly many unknown bugs that could hold
up building composes, and it is just about time
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 +
Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
Hi,
For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican
characters which
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922433
Could we consider change release name from Schrödinger's Cat to
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 +
Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
Hi,
For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican
characters which
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922433
Could we
On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
This bug just *smells* like one of those which will pop up again and
again and again causing carnage wherever it shows up.
I think so. I expect we'll find issues with isolinux, grub, livecd-tools,
liveusb-creator. It
Sérgio Basto sergio at serjux.com writes:
For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican
characters which
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922433
Could we consider change release name from Schrödinger's Cat to
Schrodingers Cat or other name that not have
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Andre Robatino
robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Sérgio Basto sergio at serjux.com writes:
For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican
characters which
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922433
Could we consider change
On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
If we do, shouldn't there be another vote asking if it's okay to make this
change, in light of the possible release delay?
Definitely not. There is equivalent that doesn't require apostrophe or umlaut
(diaeresis)
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:56:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 +
Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
Hi,
For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican
characters which
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