[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

Go Team! The new site is a very exciting step forward. Matthew, I agree with you that any pages, like the http:// freenetproject.org/translation.html that have no content should either 1: be removed and have referring links and copy removed or 2: Have place holder copy on the page stating

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

Go Team! The new site is a very exciting step forward. Matthew, I agree with you that any pages, like the http:// freenetproject.org/translation.html that have no content should either 1: be removed and have referring links and copy removed or 2: Have place holder copy on the page stating

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

Le vendredi 31 juillet 2009 21:00:45, Matthew Toseland a ?crit : > On Monday 20 July 2009 17:08:50 brendan at artvote.com wrote: > > Hi All, > > Over the past couple months I've been speaking with Ian about your > > fascinating project and recently, he's asked me to give feedback on the > > new

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

Matthew Toseland skrev: > I have deployed the current website redesign, which is essentially Dieppe's > work with much feedback from here. It is working, the only problem is the > translation page is empty: > http://freenetproject.org/translation.html > > Should we remove it for now? > > IMHO

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

On Monday 20 July 2009 17:08:50 brendan at artvote.com wrote: > Hi All, > Over the past couple months I've been speaking with Ian about your > fascinating project and recently, he's asked me to give feedback on the new > site design so I've included a previous email addressing that below. >

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

On Monday 20 July 2009 17:08:50 bren...@artvote.com wrote: Hi All, Over the past couple months I've been speaking with Ian about your fascinating project and recently, he's asked me to give feedback on the new site design so I've included a previous email addressing that below. Looking

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

Matthew Toseland skrev: I have deployed the current website redesign, which is essentially Dieppe's work with much feedback from here. It is working, the only problem is the translation page is empty: http://freenetproject.org/translation.html Should we remove it for now? IMHO the new

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

Le vendredi 31 juillet 2009 21:00:45, Matthew Toseland a écrit : On Monday 20 July 2009 17:08:50 bren...@artvote.com wrote: Hi All, Over the past couple months I've been speaking with Ian about your fascinating project and recently, he's asked me to give feedback on the new site design so

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

On Wednesday 29 July 2009 03:52:26 you wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Matthew > Toseland wrote: > > AFAICS no. I'm not saying we should go with a static only host, I'm saying > > we shouldn't > > make dynamic that which doesn't need to be, on grounds of CPU cost (which > > determines

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

On Wednesday 29 July 2009 03:52:26 you wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: AFAICS no. I'm not saying we should go with a static only host, I'm saying we shouldn't make dynamic that which doesn't need to be, on grounds of CPU cost (which

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

On Tuesday 28 July 2009 20:32:45 you wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Matthew > Toseland wrote: > >> To do what is proposed (change the download button/text depending on the > >> user-agent/OS), you need redirects: not dynamic page generation. > >> > > Okay so there is a cheap solution as

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: > AFAICS no. I'm not saying we should go with a static only host, I'm saying we > shouldn't > make dynamic that which doesn't need to be, on grounds of CPU cost (which > determines > responsiveness in practice). Modern systems (even apache

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

On Monday 27 July 2009 18:42:11 Ian Clarke wrote: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Matthew > Toseland wrote: > >> > I disagree, php or java reduces performance and increases costs, for all > >> > hosting options. > >> > >> Are you serious? ?I can imagine someone making that kind of argument >

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

* Ian Clarke [2009-07-27 12:42:11]: > On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Matthew > Toseland wrote: > >> > I disagree, php or java reduces performance and increases costs, for all > >> > hosting options. > >> > >> Are you serious? ?I can imagine someone making that kind of argument > >> against

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> To do what is proposed (change the download button/text depending on the >> user-agent/OS), you need redirects: not dynamic page generation. >> > Okay so there is a cheap solution as long as we have access to the server > config. Great.

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

* Ian Clarke i...@locut.us [2009-07-27 12:42:11]: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: I disagree, php or java reduces performance and increases costs, for all hosting options. Are you serious?  I can imagine someone making that kind of

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

On Monday 27 July 2009 18:42:11 Ian Clarke wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: I disagree, php or java reduces performance and increases costs, for all hosting options. Are you serious?  I can imagine someone making that kind of

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

On Tuesday 28 July 2009 20:32:45 you wrote: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: To do what is proposed (change the download button/text depending on the user-agent/OS), you need redirects: not dynamic page generation. Okay so there is a cheap

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: AFAICS no. I'm not saying we should go with a static only host, I'm saying we shouldn't make dynamic that which doesn't need to be, on grounds of CPU cost (which determines responsiveness in practice). Modern

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

On Monday 27 July 2009 16:13:15 brendan at artvote.com wrote: > > Well, we did have a whole page concerning downloading Freenet, but Clement > decided it's better to have a download link on the homepage, much as > getfirefox.com does... > > <-- > It's a good idea to have both a download page,

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> > I disagree, php or java reduces performance and increases costs, for all >> > hosting options. >> >> Are you serious? ?I can imagine someone making that kind of argument >> against dynamic page generation in 1994, but not now. > > It

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

On Monday 20 July 2009 17:08:50 brendan at artvote.com wrote: > Hi All, > Over the past couple months I've been speaking with Ian about your > fascinating project and recently, he's asked me to give feedback on the new > site design so I've included a previous email addressing that below. >

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

On Monday 27 July 2009 04:18:50 Ian Clarke wrote: > On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Matthew > Toseland wrote: > >> In fact, we do detect their platform, but we use javascript. So there are > >> two > >> issues here : > >> the user disabled the javascript (we should use server-side

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

On Monday 27 July 2009 04:18:50 Ian Clarke wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: In fact, we do detect their platform, but we use javascript. So there are two issues here : the user disabled the javascript (we should use server-side

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

On Monday 20 July 2009 17:08:50 bren...@artvote.com wrote: Hi All, Over the past couple months I've been speaking with Ian about your fascinating project and recently, he's asked me to give feedback on the new site design so I've included a previous email addressing that below. Looking

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

Well, we did have a whole page concerning downloading Freenet, but Clement decided it's better to have a download link on the homepage, much as getfirefox.com does...--It's a good idea to have both a download page, as well as a link off the homepage, which I believe you will have, right? --B

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: I disagree, php or java reduces performance and increases costs, for all hosting options. Are you serious?  I can imagine someone making that kind of argument against dynamic page generation in 1994, but not

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

On Monday 27 July 2009 16:13:15 bren...@artvote.com wrote: Well, we did have a whole page concerning downloading Freenet, but Clement decided it's better to have a download link on the homepage, much as getfirefox.com does... -- It's a good idea to have both a download page, as well as

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Matthew Toseland wrote: >> In fact, we do detect their platform, but we use javascript. So there are two >> issues here : >> the user disabled the javascript (we should use server-side identification, >> ian's right), > > I disagree, php or java reduces performance

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Matthew Toselandt...@amphibian.dyndns.org wrote: In fact, we do detect their platform, but we use javascript. So there are two issues here : the user disabled the javascript (we should use server-side identification, ian's right), I disagree, php or java

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

On Wednesday 22 July 2009 16:03:38 Cl?ment wrote: > Le mercredi 22 juillet 2009 16:45:43, brendan at artvote.com a ?crit : > [...] > > > (As far as information design and the presentation of the content on the > > > pages, see the comments below on structure and content. It makes sense > > > to

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

On Wednesday 22 July 2009 16:03:38 Clément wrote: Le mercredi 22 juillet 2009 16:45:43, bren...@artvote.com a écrit : [...] (As far as information design and the presentation of the content on the pages, see the comments below on structure and content. It makes sense to address the

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

Le mercredi 22 juillet 2009 16:45:43, brendan at artvote.com a ?crit : [...] > > (As far as information design and the presentation of the content on the > > pages, see the comments below on structure and content. It makes sense > > to address the larger questions prior to focusing the

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Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

Le mercredi 22 juillet 2009 16:45:43, bren...@artvote.com a écrit : [...] (As far as information design and the presentation of the content on the pages, see the comments below on structure and content. It makes sense to address the larger questions prior to focusing the presentation of

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

Le lundi 20 juillet 2009 18:08:50, brendan at artvote.com a ?crit : > Hi All, > Over the past couple months I've been speaking with Ian about your > fascinating project and recently, he's asked me to give feedback on the new > site design so I've included a previous email addressing that below. >

[freenet-dev] Hello Freenet (& design feedback)

Hey Brendan, Thanks for sending this, I can't tell you how valuable it is to get a fresh perspective on this stuff from an expert. As far as color, do you have sense of what you want the brand colors to be? > It looks like the new release of the app, and the logo mark, are blue. > Perhaps

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

Hey Brendan, Thanks for sending this, I can't tell you how valuable it is to get a fresh perspective on this stuff from an expert. As far as color, do you have sense of what you want the brand colors to be? It looks like the new release of the app, and the logo mark, are blue. Perhaps consider

Re: [freenet-dev] Hello Freenet ( design feedback)

Le lundi 20 juillet 2009 18:08:50, bren...@artvote.com a écrit : Hi All, Over the past couple months I've been speaking with Ian about your fascinating project and recently, he's asked me to give feedback on the new site design so I've included a previous email addressing that below. Looking

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Hi All,Over the past couple months I've been speaking with Ian about your fascinating project and recently, he's asked me to give feedback on the new site design so I've included a previous email addressing that below. Looking forward to more conversations with each of you!-Brendanp.s. Here's my