RE: [digitalradio] USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms for HamsRe: RFSM2400

2006-11-29 Thread Mark Miller
Walt, I think there is no doubt that this is true. The question I have been struggling with is how much is enough/too much. I guess what I am looking for is a curve showing bandwidth vs. throughput for parallel tone modems, or maybe more precisely where is the point of diminishing returns?

[digitalradio] Spectrum Impact

2006-11-29 Thread expeditionradio
Mark Miller wrote: What my question boils down to is generally, what is the accepted maximum bandwidth of any signal in the Amateur HF bands, given the finite spectrum and many interests? Hi Mark, I believe there is a need for both time efficient and bandwidth efficient methods on the

Re: [digitalradio] USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms for HamsRe: RFSM2400

2006-11-29 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
Mark Miller wrote: What my question boils down to is generally, what is the accepted maximum bandwidth of any signal in the Amateur HF bands, given the finite spectrum and many interests? There's the billion [insert local currency here] question. Or actually two questions: what's the

Re: [digitalradio] ERRATUM

2006-11-29 Thread Roger J. Buffington
Mark Miller wrote: ERRATUM Released: November 27, 2006 By the Chief, Mobility Division, Wireless Telecommunications Bureau: 1 I assume that this means 1Khz MT63 and Olivia are now permitted after 12/15/06. I suppose it also means Pactor 3 is still permitted? de Roger W6VZV

[digitalradio] Re: ERRATUM

2006-11-29 Thread wl_pa3gwa
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Roger J. Buffington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Miller wrote: ERRATUM Released: November 27, 2006 By the Chief, Mobility Division, Wireless Telecommunications Bureau: 1 I assume that this means 1Khz MT63 and Olivia are now permitted after

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

2006-11-29 Thread KV9U
Roger, From my perspective (which is probably a bit more liberal than many) all these things are important and they all certainly directly impact digital topics. 73, Rick, KV9U Roger J. Buffington wrote: No matter what group I join, this Windows v. Linux topic comes up. If we are not

Re: [digitalradio] USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms for HamsRe: RFSM2400

2006-11-29 Thread KV9U
The maximum accepted bandwidth for most modes is the width of an SSB transmitter since you can not go wider than that and communicate with the typical rigs of the day. We already have the basic modes to work high speeds with good conditions and slower speeds under difficult conditions. What we

Re: [digitalradio] What constitutes a fax?

2006-11-29 Thread KV9U
Mark, I did not see any response to your bandplan proposal. Some thoughts that I have: - I would have a digital area on each band (including WARC bands) for suggested mixed mode activity based upon FCC mode allowance. - Because we have gravitated toward the bottom of the bands with CW and

Re: [digitalradio] What constitutes a fax?

2006-11-29 Thread KV9U
Mark, I did not see any response to your bandplan proposal. Some thoughts that I have: - I would have a digital area on each band (including WARC bands) for suggested mixed mode activity based upon FCC mode allowance. - Because we have gravitated toward the bottom of the bands with CW and

RE: [digitalradio] A bit off-topic, but could use a bit of advice

2006-11-29 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Put an 8 ohm resistor in place of the speaker. Then across the 8 ohm speaker place a 600 ohm resistor in searies with a small 2 speaker. You can vary the series resistor from about 300-1200 ohms to adjust the volumn. The series resistor won't bother the 8 ohm speaker output too much.

RE: [digitalradio] Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

2006-11-29 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Way back when, Debian tried to solve this by being the Ham Friendly distro and most ham programmers used Debian. Today programmers like one distro or another and don't generally tell you what distro they used. If they do, then you might want to use that distro. The problem is, as you have

RE: [digitalradio] LINUX PROGRAMS INSTALLS

2006-11-29 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Actually one of the reasons I use Linux is that there are applications that I like but want to add or change certain little nuances and having the source code readily available and being able to change it and re-compile the applications has bee a great deal of fun. Editing the source code is

Re: [digitalradio] New multimode program for Linux

2006-11-29 Thread o.
Hi all; I have an 800 MHz AMD computer with 512 MB RAM and primary 40 GB HDD and secondary 80 GB HDD divided into three virtual discs of 40, 20, and 20 GB. I am running Windows XP. I would like to install LINUX on the third 20 GB virtual disk. Questions: 1.. Is it possible? 2.. If yes,

[digitalradio] Re: New multimode program for Linux

2006-11-29 Thread rwmcgwier
Omar: As-Sal#257;mu `Alaykum When you install Linux on the third drive all things will be handled properly if the Linux installs grub. grub is the tool that allows multiple operating systems to be selected. So when you insert the installation disk into the CD ROM drive, the following things

RE: [digitalradio] A bit off-topic, but could use a bit of advice

2006-11-29 Thread Dave Doc
Thanks, Walt! I'm sure that would work, but it would leave me with a non-adjustable volume, and I do want to be able to adjust it up when it's not annoying to the XYL. I'm going to try a pair of computer speakers tonight when I get home. I'm hoping the volume control on them will make up for the

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New multimode program for Linux

2006-11-29 Thread Jose A. Amador
jhaynesatalumni wrote: I just tried running multipsk under wine. After not finding the volume control it put up a box that says something like it is trying to access through 00 and then puts a mess on the screen. What incantation are you using to get it to work? No, did not

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Linux versis Windows: Let the debate begin!!

2006-11-29 Thread Jose A. Amador
Roger J. Buffington wrote: No matter what group I join, this Windows v. Linux topic comes up. If we are not supposed to keep talking about the new FCC digital regs (something of vital interest to most of us digital ops) then we should be able to dispense with this Linux topic, which has

Re: [digitalradio] Re: New multimode program for Linux

2006-11-29 Thread Patrick Lindecker
Hello Jose, I think the Multipsk version 4.1.1 can't work under Linux with ou without flute music as i used in this version a DLL to measure the CPU load. But as this DLL does not work in all XP versions and never in XP pro (why?), I've put this feature only as an option in the 4.1.2 version.

Re: [digitalradio] A bit off-topic, but could use a bit of advice

2006-11-29 Thread Jose A. Amador
Dave wrote: I'm feeding audio from my IC-746 (non-Pro) to the PC from the ACC-1 jack so I can have constant audio level. I feed audio from the external speaker jack to an external speaker (novel concept!). The problem I'm encountering is that I share the shack with the XYL, who is only

[digitalradio] Rfsm2400 v.042 and a new web-site

2006-11-29 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi all, Go to http://rfsm2400.narod.ru/ and download the latest MIL-STD 188-110 Modem. (Or use my link, it's faster) http://home.broadpark.no/~saanes/rfsm2400_v42.zip 73 de LA5VNA Steinar

Re: [digitalradio] A bit off-topic, but could use a bit of advice

2006-11-29 Thread Dave Corio
That was my original thought, although I couldn't remember the term L-pad. Using computer speakers was suggested, and since I had a pair sitting around, I gave them a try this afternoon. Solved the problem completely! Now I have _much_ better control of the volume, and the audio even

Re: [digitalradio] ERRATUM

2006-11-29 Thread John B. Stephensen
Pactor-3 is as legal as it was before the Omnibus RO, but unless you are sending a fax it is restricted to the new RTTY/Data segments. 73, John KD6OZH - Original Message - From: Roger J. Buffington To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 02:03 UTC

[digitalradio] Re: ERRATUM

2006-11-29 Thread jgorman01
Except on 80m, when used to contact an automatic station in a mode wider than 500 Hz. Jim WA0LYK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John B. Stephensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pactor-3 is as legal as it was before the Omnibus RO, but unless you are sending a fax it is restricted to the new

Re: [digitalradio] USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms

2006-11-29 Thread John B. Stephensen
If radiated power is not limited, data rate is directly proportional to bandwidth, but the maximum data rate per kHz depends on the amount of time (multipath) spreading and amount of frequency (Doppler) spreading. NVIS has a multipath spread of 6-12 ms and there needs to be a gap between symbols

[digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms

2006-11-29 Thread cesco12342000
Near the equator, there is little frequency spread ( 4 Hz), but it is larger in near-polar paths and can be very large (up to 40 Hz) under disturbed conditions. A question: where does the frequency spread come from ? Is this a doppler effect of a moving ionosphere, or are there other

Re: [digitalradio] Re: USA: No Advanced Digital HF Data Comms

2006-11-29 Thread John B. Stephensen
Dopper shift increases with ionospheric disturbance and the solar geophysical reports always show that the effect is more pronounced in northern latitudes. I don't know a lot about the physics of the ionosphere but I assume that it's for the same reason the aurora always occurs near the poles.