[digitalradio] RMPSK

2007-02-01 Thread expeditionradio
Walt K5YFW wrote: Another consideration is what would the bandwidth be with DSB where two 350 Hz PSK modes were sent? The bandwidth would be 770+ Hz. ... problem is finding an ISB receiver which you would need. Perhaps a direct conversion receiver with a Q/I (?) detector and DSP

Re: [digitalradio] Re: FNpsk

2007-02-01 Thread KV9U
The bps with packet is the same as the baud rate. With other modes that have different levels, the signalling rate (the baud rate) can have more than one bit sent per baud. The fastest baud rate that Pactor uses is 200 baud, but the bps rate is many times faster with P2 and P3. The speed of

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread kd4e
7. While Microsoft made a passing attempt at retrofitting security into its early operating systems, they didn't get any money for this. So, we should be extremely grateful that they actually fixed security problems for 8 years for Windows 98. Other companies would not support any

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread Simon Brown
- Original Message - From: kd4e [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unix was *always* secure and Linux flowed out of Unix as did BSD. Unix is very old. No way matey - I have used UNIX distributions where the username / password was stored in plain text. I refer to Ultrix in the mid to late 1980's.

[digitalradio] Echolink Interface

2007-02-01 Thread Dinesh Gajjar
I have posted a project details for a small interface for echolink which uses two isolation transformers 2 opto-couplers. It may be powed from DTR pin under a script of from external supply/ kindly visit project page for details: http://www.foxdelta.com I hope this information may be useful

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread KV9U
Like most things, both posters reflect truth as they see it. Perhaps the same for me:) Microsoft happened to be in the right place at the right time to buy an OS from a third party to allow IBM 808x chips to at least work at a rudimentary level. Cassette tape loading, that sort of thing at

RE: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
Unix was *always* secure and Linux flowed out of Unix as did BSD. Unix is very old. I don't know what you're background in the computer field is, and I don't mean to turn this into a resume review, but I've been writing operating systems and OS-level components since, oh, 1978. Your statement

[digitalradio] re:DSB, ISB, SSB, AMSC, LSB, USB, I/Q

2007-02-01 Thread expeditionradio
Danny Douglas N7DC wrote: The best use of DSB in ham radio would be for SSTV or some such. You could have the picture on one side, and voice talking about it on the other. Hi Danny, That's commonly known as ISB (Independent Side Band). DSB, or AMSC, is commonly what you get when you

[digitalradio] Re: Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread Frank Brickle
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Simon Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No way matey - I have used UNIX distributions where the username / password was stored in plain text... This is a total red herring, of course. Triple-DES is no more secure than your newspaper cryptogram puzzle if you

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread kd4e
Peter G. Viscarola wrote: Unix was *always* secure and Linux flowed out of Unix as did BSD. Unix is very old. I don't know what you're background in the computer field is, and I don't mean to turn this into a resume review, but I've been writing operating systems and OS-level components

RE: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
MS has *always* lagged behind Unix, Linux, BSD, and Apple in this area. Always. MS propaganda aside. ... NT/2000 was a desperate attempt by MS to stem the bleeding because everyone else's OS's were less vulnerable and it was at-best embarassing, at worse was harming them at server

[digitalradio] Re: Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread cesco12342000
When I get my soundcard DLL written for VISTA I'll make the source available. This would be great ! btw, where did you get the new sound API from ?

[digitalradio] Using IQ for digital modes.

2007-02-01 Thread zl1bpu
Paul and others, Indeed you can generate Digital Modes as IQ components from a sound card stereo output. I've been involved in a few successful trials. I believe there's IQ PSK31 software about, I have an experimental IQ version of DominoEX for use on LF, and there's a very nice IQ output in

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread Simon Brown
It's part of VISTA - can't remember what it's called but there are example of use in the SDK. Properly written NT/2K/XP code will still work but when running on VISTA it's much better to use the VISTA API. Simon Brown, HB9DRV (GD4ELI March 2nd - 12th 2006) - Original Message - From:

[digitalradio] digital voice modem

2007-02-01 Thread Bill S
Has anyone had any experience with the AOR digital voice modem ARD9000MK2? I'm curious as to how well it works on hf ssb. Bill S

Re: [digitalradio] digital voice modem

2007-02-01 Thread Paul Metzger
Sorry Bill, I own the ARD9800 modems, I've never used an ARD9000MK2. Although I have read e-mails, owners seem to like the MK2 more than the older version (the ARD9000). They also believe they are more stable / RFI proof. Now that's just second hand hear say, so take that with a

Re: [digitalradio] digital voice modem

2007-02-01 Thread John Becker
I have been using the ARD9800 for about 4 years in the mobile. Really can't say about the MK2. You can see a photo of the FT-840 and DV modem mounted in my ford F-150 pick up at http://www.hamradio-dv.org/aor/digital-ssb/fellow-users/fellow-users-pics/w0jab/w0jab-stn.htm John, W0JAB At 12:26

Re: [digitalradio] digital voice modem

2007-02-01 Thread Jack McSpadden
Yes, My first AOR digital voice modem was the ARD9000 MK II. Being blind, it was problematic for me to make sure I wasn't in the digital mode when checking into a net and as a result was cursed out in a bar room brawler fashion by the ncs and told not to come back on the frequency as I wasn't

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread kd4e
But the security debate isn't simple enough to be about propaganda -- It's about history, and the evolution of the PC. And, again... I can TELL you how it is, cuz I was there and I've *read* the code of the operating systems we're discussing. I'm out of this conversation, de Peter K1PGV

[digitalradio] Re: Using IQ for digital modes.

2007-02-01 Thread cesco12342000
So far there's no IQ software for digital mode reception (please prove me wrong!) I hope so: DREAM is IQ capable. Start it with dream.exe -c 3 (see dream's help) and feed it with your IQ signal. More, since dream is open-source, and dreams iq-capability is a modular phase-shift hilbert

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-01 Thread Jose A. Amador
There was some packet activity on 29 MHz in the 90's . While I could do a LOT of forwarding at 1200 baud on 28.18 MHz at 1200 baud using a SSB radio, I was NEVER lucky to get a connection at 1200 baud FM AFSK, even when I heard some of them. SNR was too bad. The numbers tell that such a link

Re: [digitalradio] PSK on AM and you get two sidebands for diversity

2007-02-01 Thread Jose A. Amador
Isn't that a Softrock using SDR-1000 or M0KGK software? Jose, CO2JA Paul L Schmidt, K9PS wrote: For a simple transmitter, how about a sound card mode that uses the sound card in STEREO mode with I and Q components on L and R channels, feeding two balanced modulators, and build a

PSK 1200 baud anyone? (was Re: [digitalradio] Re: FNpsk)

2007-02-01 Thread Jose A. Amador
Something I never have quite understood is that in the late 90's in Indonesia, hams have used 1200 baud satellite PSK modems on 40 meters with seemingly good results. It has been a bit hard for me to follow that. Does anyone have a sensible explanation for this to be useful. I do not own such

Re: [digitalradio] Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread Jose A. Amador
I have not followed the whole thread but I wouldn't be too sure to believe that Windows flaws exist per se and are not a result of agreements with somebody else, as some conspiracy theories state. Just in case, it is safer to use a third party firewall, or run a bastillized *n?x. Jose, CO2JA

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-01 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
I was just looking in part 97, (regarding the legality of ISB), and noticed something else... In the US, even though regular NBFM is legal above 29 MHz, it's only legal for voice. The entire 10-meter band is still split up between RTTY/Data and Voice/Image like the rest of the HF bands.. So

Re: [digitalradio] PSK on AM and you get two sidebands for diversity

2007-02-01 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
I wasn't so concerned about whether it's ISB, DSB, or whatever; I was more interested in the comment that it would make the rig easy to build. If a simple rig were built with two balanced modulators from a quadrature RF source (easy to do), using stereo audio with a sound card program designed

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-01 Thread Danny Douglas
Why is that? FM is the carrier, afsk is the mode. Just as SSB is the carrier for an AFSK signal. If you can run AFSK on SSB in the other bands, why not 10? Does it specifically say NBFM only for voice? Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-01 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
Danny Douglas wrote: Why is that? FM is the carrier, afsk is the mode. Just as SSB is the carrier for an AFSK signal. If you can run AFSK on SSB in the other bands, why not 10? Does it specifically say NBFM only for voice? That would be an F2D emission. Legal on frequencies where

Re: [digitalradio] re:DSB, ISB, SSB, AMSC, LSB, USB, I/Q

2007-02-01 Thread Danny Douglas
Yeah, I know the difference just didnt put it together. I was thinking one and talking about another. But DSB was also used, I think, with some kind of rtty signals with one upper and one lower supperessing the carrier in the middle. Not sure how it was done. Didnt use much of that around the

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-01 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Danny Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is that? FM is the carrier, afsk is the mode. Just as SSB is the carrier for an AFSK signal. If you can run AFSK on SSB in the other bands, why not 10? Does it specifically say NBFM only for voice? Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US

Re: [digitalradio] PSK on AM and you get two sidebands for diversity

2007-02-01 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
Don't know... I'll have to do a google search on softrock and see what it is. If that *is* what a softrock is, I may just have to get one to play with :) Jose A. Amador wrote: Isn't that a Softrock using SDR-1000 or M0KGK software? Jose, CO2JA

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-01 Thread kd4e
Paul L Schmidt, K9PS wrote: Now, if someone hadn't confused the regulation-by-bandwidth rulemaking proposal by putting unrelated changes in automatic control in the same proposal, it might have been successful. Had it been, we'd be able to be talking to someone on SSB, and blast them a

Re: [digitalradio] PSK on AM and you get two sidebands for diversity

2007-02-01 Thread kd4e
The SoftRock is a kit, very inexpensive, with some neat features and an incredibly talented network of contributors joined together with the primary developer Tony Parks, KB9YIG Here is the SoftRock group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/softrock40/ doc Paul L Schmidt, K9PS wrote: Don't

Re: [digitalradio] PSK on AM and you get two sidebands for diversity

2007-02-01 Thread kd4e
Paul L Schmidt, K9PS wrote: If you wanted to produce a pair of PSK31 signals separated by, say, 150 Hz, with a pilot carrier between them, it'd simply be a matter of building the appropriate waveforms to make it happen that way. Basically, a cheap software-defined radio, covering a small

[digitalradio] Re: Vista emphasizes security over compatibility

2007-02-01 Thread Dave Bernstein
Actually, there was quite a bit of focus on security back in the 70s and 80s, but the topology employed for scalable computing was vulnerable to different threats. The prevailing notion was that ever larger CPUs would be timeshared as computing utilities by multiple organizations. The concern

Re: [digitalradio] PSK on AM and you get two sidebands for diversity

2007-02-01 Thread kd5nwa
The SoftRock V6.1 two band transceiver is very expensive, it's $32 if you can afford that much I recommend you buy one. ;} What a deal! At 06:19 PM 2/1/2007, you wrote: Don't know... I'll have to do a google search on softrock and see what it is. If that *is* what a softrock is, I may just

Re: [digitalradio] re:DSB, ISB, SSB, AMSC, LSB, USB, I/Q

2007-02-01 Thread r_lwesterfield
Rockwells's military ARC-230 radio uses ISB to enable at least a theoretically possible 19.2kb per second with ALE through SCOPE Command -9600 kbps per sideband. O f course, they do not ever achieve that rate given today's sunspot situation but it is at least a laboratory possibility. The

[digitalradio] An observation on Olivia

2007-02-01 Thread jhaynesatalumni
Right now I'm copying a QSO where the stations are using Olivia 16/500 on 80M. I'm in NW Arkansas, and the two stations in the QSO are in Florida and Georgia. I'm getting solid copy on the Florida station and extremely lousy copy on the Georgia station. (Presumably they are getting good copy on

[digitalradio] Re: An observation on Olivia

2007-02-01 Thread expeditionradio
jhaynesatalumni wrote Right now I'm copying a QSO where the stations are using Olivia 16/500 on 80M. I'm in NW Arkansas, and the two stations in the QSO are in Florida and Georgia. I'm getting solid copy on the Florida station and extremely lousy copy on the Georgia station. (Presumably