Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-02 Thread Jose A. Amador
My father had a Hallicrafters HT-9 that did FMbut he never used it on FM as long as I remember. That line came to the market after WW II, if I remember well. He sold his Hallicrafters transmitter in 1961 or so...Johnson HF transmitters did not have any measure of FM emissions. Maybe some

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-01 Thread Jose A. Amador
There was some packet activity on 29 MHz in the 90's . While I could do a LOT of forwarding at 1200 baud on 28.18 MHz at 1200 baud using a SSB radio, I was NEVER lucky to get a connection at 1200 baud FM AFSK, even when I heard some of them. SNR was too bad. The numbers tell that such a link

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-01 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
I was just looking in part 97, (regarding the legality of ISB), and noticed something else... In the US, even though regular NBFM is legal above 29 MHz, it's only legal for voice. The entire 10-meter band is still split up between RTTY/Data and Voice/Image like the rest of the HF bands.. So

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-01 Thread Danny Douglas
] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF? I was just looking in part 97, (regarding the legality of ISB), and noticed something else... In the US, even though regular NBFM is legal above 29 MHz, it's only legal for voice

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-01 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
Danny Douglas wrote: Why is that? FM is the carrier, afsk is the mode. Just as SSB is the carrier for an AFSK signal. If you can run AFSK on SSB in the other bands, why not 10? Does it specifically say NBFM only for voice? That would be an F2D emission. Legal on frequencies where

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-01 Thread Ralph Mowery
--- Danny Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is that? FM is the carrier, afsk is the mode. Just as SSB is the carrier for an AFSK signal. If you can run AFSK on SSB in the other bands, why not 10? Does it specifically say NBFM only for voice? Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-02-01 Thread kd4e
Paul L Schmidt, K9PS wrote: Now, if someone hadn't confused the regulation-by-bandwidth rulemaking proposal by putting unrelated changes in automatic control in the same proposal, it might have been successful. Had it been, we'd be able to be talking to someone on SSB, and blast them a

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-01-31 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
kd4e wrote: Anyone familiar with NBFM Packet activity on 10M, 29,100 - 29,300MHz ? I came upon an old Sonar VFX 680 NBFM/CW exciter that covers 160-2M and it got me wondering why NBFM is not included across the Ham HF spectrum bandplan. I don't believe it is any wider than an AM signal.

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-01-31 Thread KV9U
Good points, Paul, One thing that I found with longer distance FM signals on HF, even though 10 meters can be close to the MUF when it is open, is that there is a lot of frequency inversion or other anomalies from the ionosphere that make it rather annoying and unsatisfactory. This is not true

Re: [digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-01-31 Thread Paul L Schmidt, K9PS
KV9U wrote: Good points, Paul, One thing that I found with longer distance FM signals on HF, even though 10 meters can be close to the MUF when it is open, is that there is a lot of frequency inversion or other anomalies from the ionosphere that make it rather annoying and

[digitalradio] NBFM Packet Voice on HF?

2007-01-30 Thread kd4e
Anyone familiar with NBFM Packet activity on 10M, 29,100 - 29,300MHz ? I came upon an old Sonar VFX 680 NBFM/CW exciter that covers 160-2M and it got me wondering why NBFM is not included across the Ham HF spectrum bandplan. I don't believe it is any wider than an AM signal. Collins Model 75A-1