RE: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption MAYBE!

2007-04-29 Thread John Champa
there. John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: jgorman01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption NOT! Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 01:15:48 - Thanks for your frank discussion

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption NOT!

2007-04-29 Thread John Champa
joined the ARRL, so there (HI). 73, John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: N6CRR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption NOT! Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 00:57:32 -

[digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-29 Thread wb0m
Encryption should not be with the sole intent to obscure the content from other hams, but it should be availble to hams when there is a need to shield sensitive data and information from evil-doers And just who decides who the evil-doers are and what constitutes sensitive data? -- Jeff/wb0m

[digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption NOT!

2007-04-29 Thread jgorman01
Danny, Very good points all. I had not thought about this in a situation like Katrina. Can you imagine the ARC, Salvation Army, each local EOC, and the state EOC all having different encryption keys? If hundreds of hams show up to a disaster like this, who is going to administer all the

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread Rodney Kraft
] Re: Hams should have encryption Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:17:20 -0700 expeditionradio writes: Bill N9DSJ wrote: Can see no valid reason for encryption on our frequencies. If one could provide an single example I would be interested.. Hi Bill, Hams should

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Pay attention Rod, you get it eventuallyit's called RADIO! (HI) Original Message Follows From: Rodney Kraft [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 07:54:48 -0400 NO encrhyption on ham bands please. I certainly understand encryption of messages for the emergency traffic, but then that traffic should not be sent on the regular ham bands. It would be quite

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread bruce mallon
-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 21:19:58 -0700 (PDT) You forgot one To hide the fact the message is illeagal encryption in my opinion is not needed on ham radio

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread wa8vbx
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption Cans of worms all over the place, Kurt. Get used to it. It will only be getting worse. Adapt or perish. Original Message Follows From

[digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread N6CRR
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, wa8vbx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I guess I will fight not to have encryption on ham radio but wait isn't that what SCS/Winlink folks already have. Adapt or give in, mmmhh, I guess I will not do neither but to continue to fight the commericalization of ham

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
Kurt, It is already here! We have been encrypting Amateur Radio Part 97 digital traffic 24/7 on 2.4 GHz for years! It is expanding in use in the Amateur Radio VHF UHF bands, but is not likely to be found on any HF bands as international encrypted traffic is not permitted by the ITUbut

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:47:56 -0700 (PDT) I dont have a problem with MICROWAVE . NOR realy on 75 meters however how do you control who gets on and uses the band . how many unlicensed persons on 75 / 80 meters would

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread Leigh L Klotz, Jr.
John, You might want to try PocketDigi for Windows or Windows Pocket PC. It does a great job on CW over 25WPM and is free. 73, Leigh/WA5ZNU On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 3:53 pm, John Champa wrote: So there should NOT be any problemof course, CW above 25 WPM might as well be encrypted as far as I

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread n2qz
John Champa wrote: So encryption is required to be used, and the League attorney asked the FCC if that was acceptable and they said yes. The FCC's reasoning was that it was NOT our INTENT (an important legal concept) to obscure the communications. Our intent is to PROTECT our HSMM Network

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption NOT!

2007-04-28 Thread Danny Douglas
or hard card. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk - Original Message - From: jgorman01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:15 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption... NOT

2007-04-28 Thread mrfarm
If one does a web search you find a lot of comments about encryption and amateur radio. But they mostly seem to come from one source. You and your group. Just because you are doing something that may be illegal or at least very borderline sub rosa type of activity does not mean that the rest

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption... NOT

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption... NOT Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:35:55 -0500 If one does a web search you find a lot of comments about encryption and amateur radio. But they mostly seem to come from one source. You and your group. Just because you are doing something that may

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption

2007-04-28 Thread John Champa
buy that argument (HI). John - K8OCL Original Message Follows From: n2qz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Hams should have encryption Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:25:47 -0400 John Champa wrote: So