Re: [digitalradio] What constitutes a fax?

2006-11-29 Thread KV9U
Mark, I did not see any response to your bandplan proposal. Some thoughts that I have: - I would have a digital area on each band (including WARC bands) for suggested mixed mode activity based upon FCC mode allowance. - Because we have gravitated toward the bottom of the bands with CW and

Re: [digitalradio] What constitutes a fax?

2006-11-29 Thread KV9U
Mark, I did not see any response to your bandplan proposal. Some thoughts that I have: - I would have a digital area on each band (including WARC bands) for suggested mixed mode activity based upon FCC mode allowance. - Because we have gravitated toward the bottom of the bands with CW and

Re: [digitalradio] What constitutes a fax?

2006-11-28 Thread Mark Miller
Rick, I have been working on such a plan. This plan keeps things organized the way they are now, but adds the multimedia playground 25kHz below the top of each band. Let me go through a summary, then you can look at the chart, and comment. 160 meters, no change from what it is now. 80

Re: [digitalradio] What constitutes a fax?

2006-11-28 Thread Danny Douglas
It appears to me that the first mistake is leaving 160 how it is today. I have been saying for 20 years that it is just plain nuts to mix SSB and CW across the band. There is no reason that the SSB signals (and other wideband stuff) cant be put up at the top half of the band, much like most of

Re: [digitalradio] What constitutes a fax?

2006-11-28 Thread Jose A. Amador
I would rather use zip, rar or gzip. Maybe, bz2 for an extra squeeze. .doc format is VERY redundant and has a minimum size around 20 K, even if you type a pair of characters. Possibly .odt is a good move. Even then, I would compress it. Even using plain text, compression and uuencoding did

Re: [digitalradio] What constitutes a fax?

2006-11-28 Thread KV9U
Currently, the default compressed image format for amateur radio digital SSTV images has been jpeg2000 (file extension of jp2). Both jpeg2000 and a similar ATT developed djvu system are wavelet type compression programs. Both are MRC (Mixed Raster Content) based which means that the document

Re: [digitalradio] What constitutes a fax?

2006-11-27 Thread John B. Stephensen
The FCC rules provide the following definitions for fax: Image. Facsimile and television emissions having designators with A, C, D, F, G, H, J or R as the first symbol; 1, 2 or 3 as the second symbol; C or F as the third symbol; and emissions having B as the first symbol; 7, 8

Re: [digitalradio] What constitutes a fax?

2006-11-27 Thread John B. Stephensen
The FCC rules provide the following definitions for fax: Image. Facsimile and television emissions having designators with A, C, D, F, G, H, J or R as the first symbol; 1, 2 or 3 as the second symbol; C or F as the third symbol; and emissions having B as the first symbol; 7, 8

Re: [digitalradio] What constitutes a fax?

2006-11-27 Thread Mark Miller
I think you are correct. Text emissions have some sort of code which indicates the character to be transmitted. Such codes are Morse, Baudot, ASCII, and Varicode to name a few. Digital facsimile is pixilated and the pixel's intensity is represented numerically as in bitmap images. Pixels

Re: [digitalradio] What constitutes a fax?

2006-11-27 Thread KV9U
I ran a few tests to see just how long it really takes for sending a document via a digital data program such as WinDRM. If you had a good path and probably at least a 10 db S/N ratio, the transmission time for my test document of 29 K was only about two minutes. The test file is a two page

Re: [digitalradio] What constitutes a fax?

2006-11-27 Thread kd4e
Now if you convert this .doc file into a moderately compressed (90%) pdf file, it grows to 67 K, so that is probably not a good direction. A possible answer might be to move toward the coming standardized file structure already available in FOSS software such as Open Office that uses the