Andy, I think you are incorrect. 50% of the 89 messages , so far, are
related to the legality in the USA issue. You are also preaching to the
choir, here. Most of the member agree that the regulations in the USA
should be as you suggest, and many representations have been made.
OK, now back
My station is listening for ROS signals on 14080 USB (dial). I am
interested in how ROS does across the Atlantic around 10-1300 UTC when
20M is usually marginal. Hopefully I will receive some European or
African signals.
Andy K3UK
Fredonia, NY
FN02
I missed their rumblings, but did not know anyone was using ROS near the
JT65A campsite, I will be tuned to 14080 until Man U and Everton match
starts.
Andy K3UK
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@tiscali.co.ukwrote:
Andy obrien wrote:
My station is listening for ROS
Andy obrien wrote:
My station is listening for ROS signals on 14080 USB (dial).
Oh, and I meant to ask if you were using 16 or 1 baud Andy?
Dave (G0DJA)
Andy obrien wrote:
My station is listening for ROS signals on 14080 USB (dial).
Seems to be too much RTTY about at the moment as well.
One of the WARC bands might be quieter?
Dave (G0DJA)
Andy obrien wrote:
I missed their rumblings, but did not know anyone was using ROS near the
JT65A campsite, I will be tuned to 14080 until Man U and Everton match
starts.
It's the usual doom and gloom and rumblings about the frequency chosen.
Some people see any new thing as a potential
I will move to 17M and listen on 18105
Andy K3UK
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 5:51 AM, Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@tiscali.co.ukwrote:
Andy obrien wrote:
I missed their rumblings, but did not know anyone was using ROS near the
JT65A campsite, I will be tuned to 14080 until Man U and Everton match
Congratulation Jose for take your time for develope a new mode.
If is Illegal I think is not, because is experimental and that is part of this
hobby, so for other part the most other new digital mode start in experimental
mode like ROS.
Jose not stop, go a head.
73' Wilfredo Junior Aviles
IARU Region 1 bandplan indicates 14.080 is for modes using less than 500 Hz
B/W.
Bandwidths up to 2700 Hz are permitted above 14.101 MHz.
http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/bandplans/rsgb_band_plan_2010.htm
73 Trevor M5AKA
Hi Dave,
I think the activity freqeuncies have changed (see
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/).
New Frequencies (Mhz) USB: 3.600 , 7.053, 14.101 , 28.300
Have fun with the new mode.
73
Uli
DF5SF
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@... wrote:
Andy obrien wrote:
I
Taking it a bit personally, Jose? No need to get snide about it. My comments
were not an attack against you or your mode; which by the way, I think shows
great merit. My only comment was the fact that the description of the mode as
Spread Spectrum makes it illegal here in the USA on HF. If
Hi DAVE group !
Nice to work you this morning with this mode.
I got your email too.
Unfortunately there is too much qrm on 20m due to many rtty stations.
Very interesting mode.
Many thanks.
Rick iw1awh.
-Messaggio originale-
Da: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
I have to agree with Vince's explanation of the rules but I am thinking that
we are over looking one rule here that I haven't seen brought up:
§97.309 RTTY and data emission codes:
http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/d-305.html#309
=
(a) Where authorized by §97.305(c)
iw1awh wrote:
Hi DAVE group !
Nice to work you this morning with this mode.
I got your email too.
Unfortunately there is too much qrm on 20m due to many rtty stations.
Thanks for the contact Rick,
Yes, I struggled with the RTTY as well but the move to 14.101 may help a
bit.
I just
VISTA version working OK on Windows 7 Home Premium.
Starting testing on 70cm today.
73 - Skip KH6TY
jose alberto nieto ros wrote:
Yo only have to download the sound archive: The Man Of the Vara at 1
bauds (-35 dBs) and tester.
The results speak for themselves
Hi Jose
Thanks ! I have only been receiving ROS on 14.101 but it is amazing how
well it is able to decode weak signals.
A question ; I am using the signalink USB with an internal VOX
function as an external sound card, therefor the COM port is not in
use. Is it possible to turn of the com
Okay guys in the group
. A new star is born :-D
Now let´s make some on air tests
and
what about a simulation on a rf
path simulator???
Any takers??
Dg9bfc
Sigi
Ps just installed the software and maybe we can try something on air??
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Good morning All...
Does anyone know how to select, or enter, a COM port other than the choices
available in the drop down menu? I use COM19 and can't figure out how to make
that choice...
Thanks...
Al/ W8AII
Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
Okay guys in the group …. A new star is born :-D
Now let´s make some on air tests … and … what about a simulation on a rf
path simulator???
The 1st part is starting to happen, I've not got the capability to do
the second, but I'm sure there are people who can.
And a bow, rope and stick to create fire ? HI HI
73 - Bill KA8VIT
I got into RTTY in 1976. Still use a machine for RTTY.
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On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 8:54 AM, bruce mallon wa4...@yahoo.com wrote:
SO what you are saying is lets ctush the other modes so we can play with our
new toy ?
We just went through this with wideband/spredsprectrum on 6 and 2 meters .
I dont care what mode anyone uses as long as it does
DAVID wrote:
WHEN I USE THE CQ MACRO THE OUTPUT HAS THE LETTER M IN FRONT OF MY CALL
SIGN I CAN REMOVE IT BEFORE I TRANSMIT AND IT RUNS
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE M
That doesn't happen here. This is my CQ call
TX 14:44 UTC CQ CQ CQ de G0DJA G0DJA G0DJA pse k
Are you sure that
Andy wrote:
I find it rather amazing that 99% of the posts on ROS, and any
other new data mode, are related to its legality in the US. How
did you end up with such restrictive amateur licensing practices
that experimentation with any new ideas is almost regulated away?
if you are gonna be trying new bands, at the minimum,
do use frequencies that are good for SSB or wideband digital.
remember ROS is always around 2.5kc wide regardless of the
baud rate.
david/wd4kpd
Good point, I am so used to narrow modes that I forget such things.
Andy K3UK
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM, David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD
wd4...@suddenlink.net wrote:
if you are gonna be trying new bands, at the minimum,
do use frequencies that are good for SSB or wideband digital.
I've thought of another feature to add to the list.
A button that stops transmission during a transmission period. The
reason is I just came back to the PC and my 16 Baud 'CQ' call was loaded
ready to go. However, whilst I was away, someone must have transmitted
in 1 baud mode and, because
I did mention this yesterday and sugested a frequency above 14.101 but I
only got 2 replies, one from you Andy saying that all digi modes should be
close, and one from Glenn who agreed with me. I almost think, what's the
point if after about 40 messages that the issue is raised again. Obviously
Seeing lots of interest on the new ROS mode.
Would someone be willing to post a HF capture in a wav file in the files
section or point to one online? I'm tuning around 14.101 and would be good to
know what I'm listening for. Haven't heard anything unique at this point,
just the few high-ender
I remember several spredsprectum people commenting that they didn't care if
they obliterated legacy modes.
--- On Sat, 2/20/10, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Digital modes band plans.
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date:
trying 18.110 usb for anyone willing to try.
david/wd4kpd
I managed to crash the program today.
During a contact the program swapped over from 16 baud to 1 baud and
clicking the baud button would not change the mode back to 16 baud.
Then I kept getting an error message saying Tocando Limite Superior.
When I clicked on 'OK' it just came back again.
W3NJ wrote:
Seeing lots of interest on the new ROS mode.
Would someone be willing to post a HF capture in a wav file in the files
section or point to one online? I'm tuning around 14.101 and would be good to
know what I'm listening for. Haven't heard anything unique at this point,
just
Dave Ackrill wrote:
W3NJ wrote:
Seeing lots of interest on the new ROS mode.
Would someone be willing to post a HF capture in a wav file in the files
section or point to one online? I'm tuning around 14.101 and would be good
to know what I'm listening for. Haven't heard anything unique at
Be right there.
philw de ka1gmn
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD
wd4...@suddenlink.net wrote:
trying 18.110 usb for anyone willing to try.
david/wd4kpd
--
Philw de KA1GMN
I will throw in a request to be able to select NO comport for those of us with
digital VOX interface. I use all the com ports offered, though obviously not
at the same time.
Alan
WA4SCA
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the digitalradio
group.
File: /ROS Audio/ROS 1baud.WAV
Uploaded by : g0dja dave.g0...@tiscali.co.uk
Description : ROS 1 Baud
You can access this file at the URL:
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This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the digitalradio
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Description : ROS 1
has anyone found a bandplan that includes the bw restrictions for the segments ?
david/wd4kpd
Dave Ackrill wrote:
Beware! These is was recorded straight from ROS to Spectrum Labs using
VAC, so they are very loud.
Sorry, I changed what I was going to write as I realised I had not
ticked the 'notify people' button for the 16 bit file.
What that should say is Beware! These were
I have ROS v1.6.3 but its not showing ant rec audio, I am using the Signalink
USB interface, it Tx ok but cant Rec any signals, need some help, There are
some tones on 14.101 at times any other place I can look for tones.
Russell NC5O
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming
Tnx I got it fix tnx any way.
Russell NC5O
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to
take everything you have.
- Thomas Jefferson
IN GOD WE TRUST
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Andy et al.
Looks like things have moved along and everyone is currently
transmitting (simultaneously) on 14101 at present. However, I can't see
this being very successful venture given the limited space available and
the required spectrum width for the transmissions. There are/were at
least
I'm leaving ROS monitoring 3600kHz for a while.
I did receive this when I sent a CQ, but no callsigns
RX: 17:17 UTC -7.8 Hz. My name is: BOB
My QTH is: Durham,England, Locator: nz33 STOP
Later I received a reception report email that said
Hi,
i dont know if ROS v1.6.3 run in Windows Vista ??
Eaxctly the same thing happened to me yesterday David.
I couldn't see a way other than closing the program.
I'm sure Jose will update it soon.
Toby.
---Original Message---
From: Dave Ackrill
Date: 20/02/2010 15:24:48
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio]
Just some thoughts, critique welcome.
If we think about HF digital QSOs there are 5 general types.
1. Weak signal propagation probes that are frequent in nature and
regularly used by hams around the world (JT65A, ROS, WSPR, SLOW CW),
Usually the exchange is a signal report, callsign, and
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, bruce mallon wa4...@... wrote:
I remember several spredsprectum people commenting that they didn't care if
they obliterated legacy modes.
Â
They didn't happen to be in the BPL networking business, did they?
It would be interesting to try to find out how much ROS
interferes with other modes when it operates on top of them.
That is, if you had a RTTY or PSK or Olivia or some other kind
of QSO going, and a ROS signal started up in overlapping
bandwidth, does the ROS signal tear up the other-mode QSO,
or
and vice-versa, can it withstand QRM?
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM, jhaynesatalumni jhhay...@earthlink.netwrote:
It would be interesting to try to find out how much ROS
interferes with other modes when it operates on top of them.
That is, if you had a RTTY or PSK or Olivia or some other
Hi,
I know what is the the problem but i prefer it will be so.
I explain me: If i put other button called STOP JUST NOW many impatient
people at 1 baud could click to this button before the end completly the
transmission, thinking the software has crashed or like similar, so the
receiver
I don't know but they wanted 50,3-54 and 144.3-148 for 150 kHz wide digital and
even stated BUT THE LEGACY MODE HAVE 300 KHZ for themselves .
Very nice of them .
BTW I run psk-31 and it fits right in with all other users.
--- On Sat, 2/20/10, jhaynesatalumni jhhay...@earthlink.net
Sticking with the USA/FCC-centric discussion, I agree with Alan KM4BA, when he
wrote:
If the radio stays on a single frequency in SSB mode the new mode does not
meet the definition of spread spectrum that is restricted in HF. Many advanced
digital protocols manage the spectrum in the SSB
You make sense to me, Jim. Good points.
Andy K3UK
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, J. Moen j...@... wrote:
Sticking with the USA/FCC-centric discussion, I agree with Alan KM4BA, when
he wrote:
If the radio stays on a single frequency in SSB mode the new mode does not
meet the
Andy,
I have re-edited this response three times now. I was trying to offer
something that would contribute to the greater good.
I have nothing to offer to the greater good.
I have come to the conclusion that I really don't care about band plans
at such a detailed level.
I respect what you
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, jhaynesatalumni jhhay...@... wrote:
It would be interesting to try to find out how much ROS
interferes with other modes when it operates on top of them.
That is, if you had a RTTY or PSK or Olivia or some other kind
of QSO going, and a ROS signal started
GI4LKG is calling CQ on 14.101.
Russell NC5O
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to
take everything you have.
- Thomas Jefferson
IN GOD WE TRUST
Russell Blair (NC5O)
GI4LKG is calling CQ 14.101
Russell NC5O
1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door!
2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to
take everything you have.
- Thomas Jefferson
IN GOD WE TRUST
Russell Blair (NC5O)
Sholto, my tests suggest it is people on 14101 USB splashing in to you BBS
frequency, rather than creeping up the band.
Andy K3UK
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:01 PM, sholtofish sho...@probikekit.com wrote:
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com,
jhaynesatalumni
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Andy obrien k3uka...@... wrote:
Sholto, my tests suggest it is people on 14101 USB splashing in to you BBS
frequency, rather than creeping up the band.
Andy K3UK
OK, I wasn't sure how wide the ROS signal was but it obviously is quite wide.
Similar
I totally agree Phil,
I get micro-mangaged enough at work.
73 Buddy WB4M
- Original Message -
From: phil williams ka1...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Rethinking digital mode band plans-developing
Toby Burnett wrote:
Eaxctly the same thing happened to me yesterday David.
I couldn't see a way other than closing the program.
I'm sure Jose will update it soon.
I'm glad it wasn't just me Toby. :-)
I see ROS as a great opportunity to have an input to develop another
great
I've listed one LD-1A on ebay, Item no. 170449003769, at an opening price of
$150.
73,
Pete, NI9N
www.lazydogengineering.com
www.garage-shoppe.com
gentlemen
to relieve the pressure on the digitalradio group, i have started the
rosdigitalmodemgroup.
come on over and join (it is free you know !)
post what you wish, but for sked requests and for cq notices. please put sked
or cq in the subject box.
david/wd4kpd
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP/
de kb9umt Don
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Siegfried Jackstien
siegfried.jackst...@... wrote:
Link?
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Auftrag von wd4kpd
Gesendet:
Tnx
Best 73´s
Dg9bfc
Sigi
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Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. Februar 2010 01:08
An: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [digitalradio] Re: ROS ACTIVITY
http://groups.
In the few ROS 16 and ROS 1 tests that I have dome so far...
ROS 16 seems similar to Olivia 8/1000 , good performance but perhaps a not
quite as good as Olivia under QRM or deep fades.
ROS 1 , not as good as JT65A in very poor conditions.
Anyone else have impressions, perhaps I am wrong...
ROS is MFSK16 with frequency hopping so it is SS per the FCC definition as the
bandwidth is expanded. However, the FCC never fined anyone during the period
when Hellscreiber was used illegally so I doubt that they would do so with ROS.
What ROS users should do is email their ARRL
Is it? Look at the published technical specs and explain how it is Spread
Spectrum or frequency hopping other than by label.
73,
Bill, N9DSJ
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, John B. Stephensen kd6...@... wrote:
ROS is MFSK16 with frequency hopping so it is SS per the FCC definition as
Yes, it does run in Vista Home Premium. Although there is no option for
selecting the sound card, I was able to put the computer mic by the radio
speaker and decode a few signals last night. It was surprising since there
were many CW signals in the same space.
Ed
WB6YTE
--- In
What is the FCC definition of spread spectrum, and where can it be located on
the internet?
Jim - K6JM
- Original Message -
From: John B. Stephensen
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:58 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ROS - make it legal in
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