Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-25 Thread James French
On Tuesday 24 November 2009 21:45:18 DANNY DOUGLAS wrote: I have seen the same thing. One of the problems is that 20 and 15 are the two dx freqs in the daytime, where we might reasonably contact other scouts, in the rest of the world. I.E. That is the typical Scout hangout for contacts.

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-25 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
- Original Message - From: James French w8...@wideopenwest.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor On Tuesday 24 November 2009 21:45:18 DANNY DOUGLAS

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-24 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Dave I'm no fan of the way in which many contest stations seem to use, and abuse, the band plans (..) I could not agree with you more. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar Dave Ackrill wrote: DANNY DOUGLAS wrote: Bonnie, sitting on the side, I see both sides of this. You, on one hand, always

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-24 Thread Alan Barrow
Rick Karlquist wrote: That reminds me. During the CW Sweepstakes 2 weeks ago, I was trying to operate on ~7030 and bursts of RTTY-sounding stuff kept coming on the frequency for 5 or 10 seconds every once in a while. Is that ALE? That was not ALE, as the common frequencies used for ALE are

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-24 Thread Rick Karlquist
Alan Barrow wrote: Rick Karlquist wrote: That reminds me. During the CW Sweepstakes 2 weeks ago, I was trying to operate on ~7030 and bursts of RTTY-sounding stuff kept coming on the frequency for 5 or 10 seconds every once in a while. Is that ALE? That was not ALE, as the common

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-24 Thread Alan Barrow
KH6TY wrote: Your prejudice is obviously showing! (Uh - long live HFlink and others that run unattended transmitters outside the beacon bands and transmit without checking for a clear frequency???) With tongue in cheek: your ignorance is showing (in the misinformed sense, no insult implied)

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-24 Thread Alan Barrow
DANNY DOUGLAS thoughtfully asks: We already require this of CW/SSB/RTTY/PSK etc. users. Why should a user of these higher-newer modes not be held to the same requirements? How is busy channel detection done in PSK or RTTY? people listen for a bit then, transmit. It's not common practice, nor

RE: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-24 Thread Dave AA6YQ
:14 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor KH6TY wrote: Your prejudice is obviously showing! (Uh - long live HFlink and others that run unattended transmitters outside the beacon bands

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-24 Thread Charles Brabham
Sure, there's an alternative! - How about operating in compliance with PART97, which prohibits harmful interference? 73 DE Charles Brabham, N5PVL Prefer to use radio for your amateur radio communications? - Stop by at HamRadioNet.Org ! http://www.hamradionet.org Personally, I don't think

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-24 Thread Alan Barrow
KH6TY wrote: There are VHF contests that are limited to only certain bands out of all available. There are HF contests for just phone, or CW or RTTY, so it should be no problem for HF contest sponsors to only allow credit for Q's made between certain frequencies on each band. I do radio

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-24 Thread Rick Karlquist
Alan Barrow wrote: I do radio with boy scout troops when camping. And find increasingly, that contests are making weekend operation very difficult. It's hard to find a weekend without a major contest, sometimes more than one. Have you tried 60, 30, 17 or 12 meters? No contests there. Rick

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-24 Thread Alan Barrow
Rick Karlquist wrote: Have you tried 60, 30, 17 or 12 meters? No contests there. Yep, I'm a regular 60m user for that reason. And 30m for digital. 17m is of course one of the best options, but lately prop has not made it a good spot to demo for scouts. For that matter, 60m can be hard to

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-24 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_modes/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: Rick Karlquist To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-24 Thread Rick Karlquist
DANNY DOUGLAS wrote: I have seen the same thing. One of the problems is that 20 and 15 are the two dx freqs in the daytime, where we might reasonably contact other scouts, in the rest of the world. I.E. That is the typical Scout If those bands are open, 17 meters will be open. I have had

[digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-23 Thread expeditionradio
Charles, Your constant efforts to spread disinformation about ALE use in ham radio shows how little you know about how hams are using ALE. If you are really concerned about lids on HF, start with the #1 primary source of QRM: contesters. Bonnie VR2/KQ6XA --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com,

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-23 Thread Charles Brabham
- From: expeditionradio To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 9:23 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor Charles, Your constant efforts to spread disinformation about ALE use

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-23 Thread Rick Karlquist
Charles, Your constant efforts to spread disinformation about ALE use in ham radio shows how little you know about how hams are using ALE. If you are really concerned about lids on HF, start with the #1 primary source of QRM: contesters. Bonnie VR2/KQ6XA That reminds me. During

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-23 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
OK all put a stop to this. John, W0JAB moderator

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-23 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
/?yguid=341090159 - Original Message - From: expeditionradio To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:23 AM Subject: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor Charles, Your constant efforts

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-23 Thread Dave Ackrill
DANNY DOUGLAS wrote: Bonnie, sitting on the side, I see both sides of this. You, on one hand, always appear to be pushing expansion of new modes - Original Message - From: expeditionradio If you are really concerned about lids on HF, start with the #1 primary source of

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-23 Thread Andy obrien
Good point Skip, in this modern era with cabrillo files, it should be easy to do. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:37 PM, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net wrote: There are VHF contests that are limited to only certain bands out of all available. There are HF contests for just phone, or CW or RTTY, so it

Re: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor

2009-11-23 Thread Kurt Tuttle
expeditionra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: expeditionradio expeditionra...@yahoo.com Subject: [digitalradio] Disinformation about ALE by N5PVL Re: Getting serious about ALE / LID factor To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 10:23 AM   Charles, Your constant efforts