Wow. The best description of jQuery. Ever.
:two thumbs up:
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
Javascript isn't bad it's jquery that is bad. I've seen whole cities
go under because of it. First it's just a few kids experimenting,
trying to have a good time. No harm right? Well, they get other kids
On 3/15/07, Benjamin Sterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've worked on a project for about two months now that uses jquery for
everything. Using such plugins as jqModal, blockUI, jqDebug, jqQuick,
dimensions plugin, form plugin, and jqHighlightFade as well as some code I
pulled out of other
Jonathan Chaffer wrote:
On Mar 14, 2007, at 20:49 , Benjamin Sterling wrote:
Because this will be on a government server, they don't want anything
other then basic javascript, I can explain the whole discussion with
the client but this message would be to long and either way the result
Did they also require backwards compatibility with Internet Explorer 3? At
least you could still use CSS1.
--Erik
On 3/15/07, Klaus Hartl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Benjamin Sterling schrieb:
I was actually going to do Mamut's idea or a version of it. Since they
don't know what jquery is,
Of course Benjamin knows that this list is public and indexed by search
engines (at least Google), so he wouldn't actually rename jQuery to bQuery
and honestly think he could get away with it. ;)
Good luck!
Brian.
On 3/16/07, Chris Ovenden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/15/07, Benjamin
That's easy :)
Spend 2-6 weeks doing nothing, pretending you're busy working on your
code. In the mean time get to know internals of jQuery really well.
Then on some sunny afternoon take the jQuery library and do the
following: Search and Replace jQuery with, say, JSUtilityLib or
something that
This is a government project. Late and over budget is their middle
name. What sort of garbage is the security reasons excuse. It sounds
like someone is making decisions who doesn't know what the h*** they're
talking about. Give me a freakin' break! That's like some clients who
don't want to
I was actually going to do Mamut's idea or a version of it. Since they
don't know what jquery is, I think I can get away with it. I would
probably take things out that I wont be using, but I will cross that bridge
when I get there.
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Benjamin Sterling
http://www.KenzoMedia.com
Benjamin Sterling schrieb:
I was actually going to do Mamut's idea or a version of it. Since they
don't know what jquery is, I think I can get away with it. I would
probably take things out that I wont be using, but I will cross that
bridge when I get there.
At least you're allowed to
Can you rename it to RegularJSHelperFunctions.js and tell them you wrote it
yourself?
I'm on a project now that I cant use jQuery. They use YUI. I feel like I
lost my right arm.
I can't do simple things.
Glen
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There was a web developer that my client hired to do some graphic
design stuff really, and she tried to convince them that javaScript was
evil. I think folks who do that sort of thing are just afraid of
something they don't understand. Or they think it's too hard, so they
try to convince all
Javascript isn't bad it's jquery that is bad. I've seen whole cities go
under because of it. First it's just a few kids experimenting, trying to
have a good time. No harm right? Well, they get other kids involved, and
those kids get other kids, before you know it, the parks are filled with
] the pitfalls of jquery
There was a web developer that my client hired to do some graphic
design stuff really, and she tried to convince them that javaScript was
evil. I think folks who do that sort of thing are just afraid of
something they don't understand. Or they think it's too hard, so
Discussion.
Subject: Re: [jQuery] the pitfalls of jquery
There was a web developer that my client hired to do some graphic
design stuff really, and she tried to convince them that javaScript was
evil. I think folks who do that sort of thing are just afraid of
something they don't understand
On 16/03/2007, at 3:00 AM, Benjamin Sterling wrote:
Javascript isn't bad it's jquery that is bad. I've seen whole
cities go under because of it. First it's just a few kids
experimenting, trying to have a good time. No harm right? Well,
they get other kids involved, and those kids get
Rick Faircloth schrieb:
What concerns about js are valid?
Just accessibility?
Poorly written code causes problems or
does js have certain inherent risks?
Rick
Security can be an issue as well.
-- Klaus
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Rob Desbois schrieb:
Or that their only experience of JavaScript has been riddled with problems
due to browser incompatibility problems.
There've been times I've cursed JS for these. Granted, the problem is the
browsers' implementations, but it's still enough to make you say 'Javascript
is
Well, to be 508 compliant you have to do some tricks so that screen readers
will pick up on the change. Not everyone knows how to do these tricks and
there are not a lot of resources to pull from for help. So I would think
people the use the 'inaccessable' excuse are too lazy to really dig for
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Behalf Of Benjamin Sterling
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:26 PM
To: jQuery Discussion.
Subject: Re: [jQuery] the pitfalls of jquery
Well, to be 508 compliant you have to do some tricks so that screen readers
will pick up on the change
overcome
ignorant common wisdom... especially when someone doesn't
understand the proof...
Rick
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:26 PM
To: jQuery Discussion.
Subject: Re: [jQuery] the pitfalls of jquery
I've worked on a project for about two months now that uses jquery for
everything. Using such plugins as jqModal, blockUI, jqDebug, jqQuick,
dimensions plugin, form plugin, and jqHighlightFade as well as some code I
pulled out of other plugins (nextUntil (Jorn), bgIframe(?), pngFixer(actual
code
sorry about that hit the submit button :)
back to my story
Because this will be on a government server, they don't want anything other
then basic javascript, I can explain the whole discussion with the client
but this message would be to long and either way the result would be that I
can
Sorry for all the misspells, my brain is fried...
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Benjamin Sterling
http://www.KenzoMedia.com
http://www.KenzoHosting.com
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Benjamin, Here' my 2 cents... write it in jquery first, then translate
to standard javascript (lifting some of the cool routines from jquery)
On 3/14/07, Benjamin Sterling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry for all the misspells, my brain is fried...
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Benjamin Sterling
hahahaha. John hooked me the same way. He met me in a dark alley and
told me, Version 1.0 is always free. I tried it and thats it. Rehab
has been no help. I've tried The YUI Clinic, Dojo Promise Center and The
Prototype Halfway House. None have been able to help me kick the habit. :P
Rey...
This start with what's easy idea is the same philosophy that I use
for building sites. First make it work in FF, then figure out how to
hack it up to work in IE (and pray that it works in Safari/Opera).
--Erik
On 3/14/07, Ⓙⓐⓚⓔ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Benjamin, Here' my 2 cents... write it in
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
So I take a look at the specs and my brain just goes limp.. I CAN'T
THINK OF HOW I WOULD DO THIS WITH OUT JQUERY..
it is a sad sad world all because of my dependency of the crack
that is jQuery...
I really don't know about licensing issues, but I have
it will cost them another X hours of work to
hand write all the JS code...then they'll probably let you use it...
-- Josh
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From: Benjamin Sterling
To: jQuery Discussion.
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [jQuery] the pitfalls of jquery
sorry
Seriously. jQuery is much lighter than something like dojo...
sed s,jQuery,helper,g jquery.js helper.js
--Erik
On 3/14/07, Scott Sauyet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Benjamin Sterling wrote:
So I take a look at the specs and my brain just goes limp.. I CAN'T
THINK OF HOW I WOULD DO THIS
On Mar 14, 2007, at 20:49 , Benjamin Sterling wrote:
Because this will be on a government server, they don't want
anything other then basic javascript, I can explain the whole
discussion with the client but this message would be to long and
either way the result would be that I can use any
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